It's easy to pick up a Ukrainian refugee for dating? Think again!

[andrewfi]

Alex1010, the whole mail order bride industry is based upon the exploitation of the economic differences between men and women in different countries. If that bothers you then find a woman of similar economic situation to yourself in your country and community.

Of course, these days most of the profiles are fake and do not represent real women, so in truth it is you who is most likely to be the victim of exploitation.

[Steveboy]

Only fakes have such Bios..

What about that bio makes you sure it's fake?

Real women do not write that shit never ever ever! Most it will be is a few words and that is it.. Do you write such a long and interesting BIO in your profile?? No no no.. There you all explained..

[Contrarian]

Only fakes have such Bios..

What about that bio makes you sure it's fake?

Real women do not write that shit never ever ever! Most it will be is a few words and that is it.. Do you write such a long and interesting BIO in your profile?? No no no.. There you all explained..

My bio: studmuffin 71 seeks pussymuffin 69. 

[Steveboy]

Only fakes have such Bios..

What about that bio makes you sure it's fake?

Real women do not write that shit never ever ever! Most it will be is a few words and that is it.. Do you write such a long and interesting BIO in your profile?? No no no.. There you all explained..

My bio: studmuffin 71 seeks pussymuffin 69. 

Yea exactly!! And exactly the reason you need a big turn over of women.. they read that and they are gone..

Dirty bugger

[Texan77]

My bio: studmuffin 71 seeks pussymuffin 69. 

Yea exactly!! And exactly the reason you need a big turn over of women.. they read that and they are gone..

Dirty bugger

You are just complaining about the competition running off your women.

[andrewfi]

IMHO, profiles of the type Steve shared are likley to be fake. Templated and designed for the lowest common denominator of male clientele, the easiest sheep to shear.

Women do write decent profiles, profiles that describe themselves well and that tell prospects what they are really looking for. However, such profiles are missed by the majority of guys. Which is a good thing. Proper blokes respond to the real profiles and do just fine.

[alex1010]

Alex1010, the whole mail order bride industry is based upon the exploitation of the economic differences between men and women in different countries. If that bothers you then find a woman of similar economic situation to yourself in your country and community.

I don't think this is true at all. Sure there are some guys who are trying to exploit the economic differences (eg the old geezers hoping to find a young hottie young enough to be his granddaughter), but I don't think that's the case for all or even most men who consider international dating. In my case I simply think I would mesh better culturally with someone from eastern europe than the typical canadian. It has nothing at all to do with exploitation.

Any relationship based on exploiting economic differences is doomed to fail anyways. I mean, what do these guys think is gonna happen once they bring their hot young bride over? She'll immediately realize she can do better, and then she's just gonna leave him and take half his money. Here in Canada, the law is that if two people are married for at least 3 years, when they divorce each partner gets half the primary residence, even if one partner paid for 100% of it and the other partner never contributed a nickel. The rest of their net worth (excluding the primary residence) is split up according to a more complicated formula, and is likely to involve child support and alimony. I am unfamiliar with divorce laws in other western countries but I doubt they're much different than Canada's.

[alex1010]

So you guys are saying that a long, wordy profile is likely fake?

[andrewfi]

Think about it. Why would some random woman from some poor country be looking to marry some random bloke from a rich one?

As Russians would say 'I can find a poor man in my own village'.

Economics is the basic driver of the entire industry.

Yu might have reached the personal fulfillment level of Maslow's hierarchy but almost all the real women you contact through a western facing 'international dating site' will not. They are looking for a way to reach the same level as you.

That's not necessarily bad, but ignoring it will get your ass bitten - hard!

[Markje]

So you guys are saying that a long, wordy profile is likely fake?

Not all of them, but if she mentions she loves to dance, but then shares nothing of dancing in that long text, it is a red flag

[Steveboy]

So you guys are saying that a long, wordy profile is likely fake?

Does she look like the sort of women looking for some poor foreigner ?

I always suggest this to anyone to put the thing into perspective..

Take a screen shot of yourself then take a screen shot of the women you wish to chat to.. then join them together..

Then sit down take a GOOD LOOK at the photo and have a GOOD think about this.. Do you look good together? Do you see yourself walking into the local restaurant with this girl?

Probably not ?? Then wake up and get a bloody life!!

[andrewfi]

The only people who can be conned or scammed are those who expect to get something for nothing or who expect to get a very high reward for low investment.

Steve's pic makes that point very well.

But Steve, why did you use a picture of me.

[Steveboy]

The only people who can be conned or scammed are those who expect to get something for nothing or who expect to get a very high reward for low investment.

Steve's pic makes that point very well.

But Steve, why did you use a picture of me.

[andrewfi]

I have to say that I would have no interest in pursuing the un-retouched version of that woman. I am sure that I would be guilty of overreaching if I did so.

Even my new slimline look and Hemingway beard would not be up to the task of anything other than a short term rental of that model.

[Steveboy]

I have to say that I would have no interest in pursuing the un-retouched version of that woman. I am sure that I would be guilty of overreaching if I did so.

Even my new slimline look and Hemingway beard would not be up to the task of anything other than a short term rental of that model.

That girl probably does not look anything like that in the morning.. 

Problem is everyone is into photo shopping their photos today.. that's also part of the daily duties to make themselves out to be something they are not..

I call it the "Something they are not" Syndrome ..

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/greedy-pair-topped-salaries-selling-cocaine-163439641.html

[andrewfi]

Steve, I remember a few years ago in Florida, with the CEO of Hot Russian Brides. We were looking at profiles - not of women on his site!

He had above his desk a huge monitor (actually a TV screen) that would have cost a fortune back then.

Anyway, one profile we looked at on his desktop. The woman was in her late 30s, as I recall. Looked very good - and real. We were looking for a potential mate for the Andrewfi.

Anyhoo, we popped her onto the big screen and...
Blech! Immediately we saw that her eyes did not match the pic. She was so softened up, and yet the eyes were sharp. It could not be seen on the relatively small but still large screen. Lucky escape for the Andrewfi!

God alone knows what the real person looked like, but I might not have recognised her at the airport had I gotten on a plane to meet her!

[dorbradavid]

How did you get a picture of me? 

[Steveboy]

Steve, I remember a few years ago in Florida, with the CEO of Hot Russian Brides. We were looking at profiles - not of women on his site!

He had above his desk a huge monitor (actually a TV screen) that would have cost a fortune back then.

Anyway, one profile we looked at on his desktop. The woman was in her late 30s, as I recall. Looked very good - and real. We were looking for a potential mate for the Andrewfi.

Anyhoo, we popped her onto the big screen and...
Blech! Immediately we saw that her eyes did not match the pic. She was so softened up, and yet the eyes were sharp. It could not be seen on the relatively small but still large screen. Lucky escape for the Andrewfi!

God alone knows what the real person looked like, but I might not have recognised her at the airport had I gotten on a plane to meet her!

I see that site has closed down now.. along with many others recently..

[Steveboy]

How did you get a picture of me? 

Yeah sorry I did say I would respect your privacy.. 

[Texan77]

All this dating real women maybe too much of a problem in the future. Japanese have found a solution.

[andrewfi]

Steve, yeah it kinda looks like it. They were among the good guys, notwithstanding criticisms from others in the industry and some people who usually were not clients.

A bit ahead of their time.

They used to make millions.

[dorbradavid]

Perhaps of interest 

[Steveboy]

Perhaps of interest 

Some people can get away with a big age difference but not many and certainly not something stupid like 30/40 years..

Of course today most if not nearly all women simply are not interested in marring a man much older than themselves.. what can a man possibly offer ?? Money? There are plenty of young guys with money .. or maybe your thinking.."She's young from a village with two kids" That will not help either.. at some point she will leave you usually..

And what about sex? Are you going to be able to be stud all the way till you're 80 ? I mean every women needs sex and good sex? Not just roll over and fall to sleep after 10 mins..

[andrewfi]

Steve, what is this sex stuff?
Why would a man want to have lots of it?

Of course, one's juvenile love-muffin might be happy not to be shagging a guy with balls at knee level and our hero needing to be filled with sildenafil to get any action from his micro-sausage.

Of course, she might be getting satisfaction elsewhere - all the guy needs to do is provide for her home and financial needs.

[dorbradavid]

And what about sex? Are you going to be able to be stud all the way till you're 80 ? I mean every women needs sex and good sex? Not just roll over and fall to sleep after 10 mins..

There's another way?