Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud

[mhr7]

Here's another twist that i heard about today. I was watching Steve Bannon's war room and he was asking Trump's lawyer Boris Epshteyn what they were planning next, it looked like they were running out of options and time was running out. Epshteyn said that people have to remember that at the end of the day it is congress who determines who won the election and there was nothing to worry about.

He never went into details but I also found this video where a guy explains that Pence can refuse to even open the envelope containing a State's electors if that State broke federal election laws and as a result could sway the outcome of that election. And according to the constitution Pence has the final say in this. No debate, no court cases, nothing. The States he rejects would not be counted and if he does this with all the States in dispute then Trump will win 232 votes to Biden's 222. The guy also mentions that this was also said on the Rasmussen site. If this is true then Trump should have this in the bag.

Congress won't change the electoral vote, the Democrats in the House won't approve any objections and there are about a half dozen Republicans in the Senate who have said they won't approve any either. Plus Mitch McConnell has discouraged any senators from objecting. Pence's job is purely ceremonial, he has no constitutional authority whatsoever to deny a state its certified electoral votes. If Pence refuses to open envelopes, the president pro tempore of the Senate, Chuck Grassly, will.

 Got anything to back that up or are you just making stuff up again? Show us some legislation where it says that.

 According to what was said Pence has all the say, congress has nothing to do with that. I honestly don't know, I never read up to see if that is true. So show me

When have I previously made stuff up? Doing research is easy. I don't know why you and Billy think I'm here to do it for you.

 When you tried to say Trump hasn't done anything since the election and I showed you links where he did... thats just one of the times.

 We both gave links to back up what we say. You come along saying it is wrong yet don't show any proof why. Now that you are challenged about it you are trying to weasel your way out of it. The onus is on you to back your claims, not us. It's not the first time you've done that and I am sure it won't be the last. What you don't realize is how foolish you look when you give such stupid excuses to not back your BS. And how foolish you look when you insult what someone says instead of responding with a rebuttal, like you just did with Billy. Tell me, do you really think anyone who reads that thinks it's a good argument? Sorry, but around these here parts we call that a cop out!

Billy and I have discussed dueling electors MANY times and he still goes on and on about it. I've shown him evidence but he prefers his version of unreality.

Here's my evidence -

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/15

Congress shall be in session on the sixth day of January succeeding every meeting of the electors. The Senate and House of Representatives shall meet in the Hall of the House of Representatives at the hour of 1 o’clock in the afternoon on that day, and the President of the Senate shall be their presiding officer. Two tellers shall be previously appointed on the part of the Senate and two on the part of the House of Representatives, to whom shall be handed, as they are opened by the President of the Senate, all the certificates and papers purporting to be certificates of the electoral votes, which certificates and papers shall be opened, presented, and acted upon in the alphabetical order of the States, beginning with the letter A; and said tellers, having then read the same in the presence and hearing of the two Houses, shall make a list of the votes as they shall appear from the said certificates; and the votes having been ascertained and counted according to the rules in this subchapter provided, the result of the same shall be delivered to the President of the Senate, who shall thereupon announce the state of the vote, which announcement shall be deemed a sufficient declaration of the persons, if any, elected President and Vice President of the United States,

There ya go, that's what Pence will do. Open envelopes and declare the winner.

 Thanks for posting the link. But it is very vague, and doesn't say anything about what Pence can or cannot do. There is actual precedence showing that the President of the senate can do more that just open and read the electors.  Thomas Jefferson actually became President by claiming 4 electors from Georgia for himself when the ballots were deemed constitutionally defective.
  https://macris.substack.com/p/who-counts-the-votes-of-the-presidential

Thomas Jefferson was remarkably aggressive as President of the Senate. Georgia’s certificate - granting four electoral votes to Jefferson - was constitutionally defective on its face, a deficiency that was announced on the floor of Congress and reported by leading newspapers of the day. To resolve all doubts, we have located Georgia’s certificate in the National Archives, and it does indeed reveal striking constitutional irregularities…

Nevertheless, Jefferson failed to pause before counting George’s four electoral votes into the Republican column, declaring the final vote as if nothing were amiss. Had Georgia’s ballot been excluded, the vote count…would have admitted all five candidates into a runoff in the House… Without the decisive use of his power as President of the Senate, Jefferson might never have become President of the United States. (emphasis added)

Read that again: Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence, the man whose face adorns Mt Rushmore, among the most revered founding fathers of our country, only became President because he used his unilateral power as President of the Senate to open and count the presidential ballots in his own favor.


 There is another case written there about when electors from Wisconsin weren't submitted because of a snowstorm, but the President of the senate counted them to his discretion anyways. Take a look if you are interested in reading about it. The bottom line is that Pence's position is not just ceremonial, and all he can do is open ballots as you claim. He has a lot more power than that, power that cannot be overridden by congress as seen by these two cases.

It is just ceremonial, the whole event on Jan. 6th is ceremonial. December 14th was the day the electoral votes were set in stone. If the VP could change the outcome of the election then the US would not be a representative democracy. If the VP could do anything to change the outcome then George H. W. Bush would have served two terms instead of one because VP Dan Quail could have made that happen by not counting the votes of states Bill Clinton won. In 2001, VP Al Gore could have given himself the victory by not counting the vote of Florida. And in 2017, VP Joe Biden could have set aside the votes of the states Trump won thereby giving Hilary Clinton the victory But these things didn't happen because the VP has no power whatsoever to change any votes. If he did, the US would be an Autocracy and there would be no point in voting.

The real story of Thomas Jefferson -

1800 Presidential Election Results

"Democratic-Republican Thomas Jefferson defeated Federalist John Adams by a margin of seventy-three to sixty-five electoral votes in the presidential election of 1800. When presidential electors cast their votes, however, they failed to distinguish between the office of president and vice president on their ballots. Jefferson and his running mate Aaron Burr each received seventy-three votes. With the votes tied, the election was thrown to the House of Representatives as required by Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution. There, each state voted as a unit to decide the election.

Still dominated by Federalists, the sitting Congress loathed to vote for Jefferson—their partisan nemesis. For six days starting on February 11, 1801, Jefferson and Burr essentially ran against each other in the House. Votes were tallied over thirty times, yet neither man captured the necessary majority of nine states. Eventually, Federalist James A. Bayard of Delaware, under intense pressure and fearing for the future of the Union, made known his intention to break the impasse. As Delaware’s lone representative, Bayard controlled the state’s entire vote. On the thirty-sixth ballot, Bayard and other Federalists from South Carolina, Maryland, and Vermont cast blank ballots, breaking the deadlock and giving Jefferson the support of ten states, enough to win the presidency.

https://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/elections/election1800.html

And you can watch the process here -

 You are skipping ahead, Jefferson wouldn't have even been in that te if he hadn't taken the Georgia electors. My whole point is that he was able to take them as the President of the senate, even though they were not for him. so it is not just a ceremonial position

Georgia only had 4 electoral votes, Jefferson won by 8. The Georgian votes were for Jefferson so he didn't change their vote. Laws have changed since 1800. Today it is the tellers who examine the votes to make sure they are valid.

 No Georgia had 8, 4 for Jefferson, 4 for Burr. But they were not constitutionally valid because they were not signed by the electors. If what you are saying is true, that his position was only ceremonial then Jefferson should not have been able to count them, but he did, he had the authority to do it. And they had tellers back then too actually.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/03/how-jefferson-counted-himself-in/302888/

He says that Mr. Wells (a teller on the part of the Senate) informed him that the envelope was blank; that the return of the votes was not authenticated by the signatures of the electors, or any of them, either on the outside or the inside of the envelope, or in any other manner; that it merely stated in the inside that the votes of Georgia were, for Thomas Jefferson four; and for Aaron Burr four; without the signature of any person whatsoever. Mr. Wells added, that he was very undecided as to the proper course to be pursued by the tellers. It was, however, suggested by one of them that the paper should be handed to the presiding officer, without any statement from the tellers except that the return was informal; that he consented to this arrangement under the firm conviction that Mr. Jefferson would announce the nature of the informality from the chair; but, to his utmost surprise, he (Mr. Jefferson) rapidly declared that the votes of Georgia were four for Thomas Jefferson and four for Aaron Burr, without noticing their informality, and in a hurried manner put them aside, and then broke the seals and handed to the tellers the package from the next state

Yes, Jefferson should not have counted the vote, but the 4 electoral votes Georgia had for president, the other 4 votes being for vice president, didn't change the outcome. Ultimately, this was an anomaly in the history of vote announcement.

 Nothing in the constitution says he could not do it. and its just one of the two times I showed you that a President of the senate has authority to do more than just count the votes, so it isn't just ceremonial like you claim. that's all there is to it. You can try to argue black is white all you want but the facts say different

You haven't proven anything. The VP can't change votes or do things the way he wants. I showed you the law pertaining to the role of the VP on Jan. 6th and there's nothing in there that gives him authority to do anything significant, period.

[Faux Pas]

You haven't proven anything. The VP can't change votes or do things the way he wants. I showed you the law pertaining to the role of the VP on Jan. 6th and there's nothing in there that gives him authority to do anything significant, period.

If I've told you once, I've told you 25 times. Google, Rachael Maddow and Joy Behar aren't your friends. You believe and quote them as if their statements/beliefs are actually legal and the final word. Doing this only serves your position as a useful idiot. It also projects to the world your status of an ignorant rube. They are lying to you and you spread those lies as quick as you can google something, anything you believe will back their position that you merely parrot. The MSM including Big Tech and the Associated Press are all involved in news suppression and have been for the last 20 years or so. They are lying to you and until you accept this one irrefutable fact you will never be able to remove those blinders that cover your eyes and ears.

The power of the VP as president of congress during these very important sessions of congress was never meant to be "ceremonial". Although, in years where the election isn't fraudulent, questionable or contested ceremonial is exactly what that role is. It is another check and balance designed by the founding fathers and Alexander Hamilton no less, to insure another measure against a questionable election, should it get that far.

You wish to believe without question what is on the surface is democracy in action when, with all of the evidence presented thus far likely proves this is an attack on our constitution and our country. You dismiss that evidence because you can google contrary evidence while never stopping to consider you are being lied to by your trusted sources.

The power of the VP in these particular sessions is backed by the authority of the constitution. One power of the VP is to recognize or contest any set of electors he chooses. He will weld a lot of muscle in this session. How much muscle has yet to actually be legally defined and this session might very well define that power. One thing you should question in your own mind is, if this was a secure and fair election why do the states in question deny examination of the machines, ballots and records? Surely that would clear it up but, none are willing to do so.Do you not question why?

The power of the VP in this session is explained here https://www.theepochtimes.com/disputes-over-power-to-count-or-reject-electoral-votes-loom-over-jan-6-session_3636866.html

"While it’s usually a formality, nothing has been usual so far about this year’s election amid numerous allegations of voter fraud in key swing states.

The situation is complicated by a lack of clarity on the legal and constitutional guardrails for the process. The joint session of Congress may well result in gridlock, in which a clear winner of the race isn’t announced at all.

The problem is, there’s a voluminous body of legal analysis arguing that the Electoral Count Act is unconstitutional. Congress has no business granting itself the authority to decide which slate of electors is the correct one and which votes should be rejected. Nor does Congress have the power to designate state governors as the final arbiters, a lineup of legislators and legal scholars have argued.

There are two arguments for who has the constitutional power to decide which electors to choose."

[LoyalMan]

In the eyes of China Communists, China people are Fart People and Low-End Population.  China Communists call their people in such way in public and in private.


In the eyes of US Deep State and Chi-merica top persons, andrewfi and mhr7 are also Fart People and Low-End Population.

Believe it or not? 

[Contrarian]

You haven't proven anything. The VP can't change votes or do things the way he wants. I showed you the law pertaining to the role of the VP on Jan. 6th and there's nothing in there that gives him authority to do anything significant, period.

If I've told you once, I've told you 25 times. Google, Rachael Maddow and Joy Behar aren't your friends. You believe and quote them as if their statements/beliefs are actually legal and the final word. Doing this only serves your position as a useful idiot. It also projects to the world your status of an ignorant rube. They are lying to you and you spread those lies as quick as you can google something, anything you believe will back their position that you merely parrot. The MSM including Big Tech and the Associated Press are all involved in news suppression and have been for the last 20 years or so. They are lying to you and until you accept this one irrefutable fact you will never be able to remove those blinders that cover your eyes and ears.

The power of the VP as president of congress during these very important sessions of congress was never meant to be "ceremonial". Although, in years where the election isn't fraudulent, questionable or contested ceremonial is exactly what that role is. It is another check and balance designed by the founding fathers and Alexander Hamilton no less, to insure another measure against a questionable election, should it get that far.

You wish to believe without question what is on the surface is democracy in action when, with all of the evidence presented thus far likely proves this is an attack on our constitution and our country. You dismiss that evidence because you can google contrary evidence while never stopping to consider you are being lied to by your trusted sources.

The power of the VP in these particular sessions is backed by the authority of the constitution. One power of the VP is to recognize or contest any set of electors he chooses. He will weld a lot of muscle in this session. How much muscle has yet to actually be legally defined and this session might very well define that power. One thing you should question in your own mind is, if this was a secure and fair election why do the states in question deny examination of the machines, ballots and records? Surely that would clear it up but, none are willing to do so.Do you not question why?

The power of the VP in this session is explained here https://www.theepochtimes.com/disputes-over-power-to-count-or-reject-electoral-votes-loom-over-jan-6-session_3636866.html

"While it’s usually a formality, nothing has been usual so far about this year’s election amid numerous allegations of voter fraud in key swing states.

The situation is complicated by a lack of clarity on the legal and constitutional guardrails for the process. The joint session of Congress may well result in gridlock, in which a clear winner of the race isn’t announced at all.

The problem is, there’s a voluminous body of legal analysis arguing that the Electoral Count Act is unconstitutional. Congress has no business granting itself the authority to decide which slate of electors is the correct one and which votes should be rejected. Nor does Congress have the power to designate state governors as the final arbiters, a lineup of legislators and legal scholars have argued.

There are two arguments for who has the constitutional power to decide which electors to choose."

The MSM including the AP have been deceiving the American public for far more than 20 years Faux Pas.

The assassination of JFK was 57 years ago. When President Trump released un redacted files it was revealed that there was a shooter who fired shots in FRONT of JFK.

Did the legacy media cover this? Of course not, because they were complicit in the cover up, for reasons of "national security".

Shortly after that is when the CIA coined the phrase conspiracy theorist and the media is unrelenting in mocking anyone who doesn't go along with their lies.

I always laugh when the sheep say that Russian media is controlled by the Russian government, as if ours is not.

BTW all 5 attending Doctors in Texas initially confirmed that JFK was shot from the FRONT and a large portion of brain and skull fragments blew out the back.

You can watch the video of Jacqueline Kennedy crawling onto the rear trunk of the car and grabbing a portion of his brain with her hand, thinking she could put it back in place and save him. That would be the emotional response of almost any loving wife in severe shock.

There is absolutely no way to discount that his brain was blown out the BACK of his head, yet the lemmings, including Billy, prefer to believe the governments theories over obvious physical reality.

[LoyalMan]

The MSM including the AP have been deceiving the American public for far more than 20 years Faux Pas.

The assassination of JFK was 57 years ago. When President Trump released unredacted files it was revealed that there was a shooter who fired shots in FRONT of JFK.

Did the legacy media cover this? Of course not, because they were complicit in the cover up, for reasons of "national security".

Shortly after that is when the CIA coined the phrase conspiracy theorist and the media is unrelenting in mocking anyone who doesn't go along with their lies.

I always laugh when the sheep say that Russian media is controlled by the Russian government, as if ours is not.

BTW all 5 attending Doctors in Texas initially confirmed that JFK was shot from the FRONT and a large portion of brain and skull fragments blew out the back.

You can watch the video of Jacqueline Kennedy crawling onto the rear trunk of the car and grabbing a portion of his brain with her hand, thinking she could put it back in place and save him. That would be the emotional response of almost any loving wife in severe shock.

There is absolutely no way to discount that his brain was blown out the BACK of his head, yet the lemmings, including Billy, prefer to believe the governments theories over obvious physical reality.

I saw that historical video several times.  I saw Jacqueline Kennedy crawling onto the rear trunk.  I just thought she was trying to escape from behind!

That means there were 2 snipers who assured Kennedy`s death in one operation.

Who is the boss behind who placed this order?  Wall Street?  Rothschild family, etc?

[Faux Pas]

The MSM including the AP have been deceiving the American public for far more than 20 years Faux Pas.

The assassination of JFK was 57 years ago. When President Trump released un redacted files it was revealed that there was a shooter who fired shots in FRONT of JFK.

Did the legacy media cover this? Of course not, because they were complicit in the cover up, for reasons of "national security".

Shortly after that is when the CIA coined the phrase conspiracy theorist and the media is unrelenting in mocking anyone who doesn't go along with their lies.

I always laugh when the sheep say that Russian media is controlled by the Russian government, as if ours is not.

BTW all 5 attending Doctors in Texas initially confirmed that JFK was shot from the FRONT and a large portion of brain and skull fragments blew out the back.

You can watch the video of Jacqueline Kennedy crawling onto the rear trunk of the car and grabbing a portion of his brain with her hand, thinking she could put it back in place and save him. That would be the emotional response of almost any loving wife in severe shock.

There is absolutely no way to discount that his brain was blown out the BACK of his head, yet the lemmings, including Billy, prefer to believe the governments theories over obvious physical reality.

Meh. That's discussion probably for a different thread. I don't necessarily disagree with you on the JFK assassination but, the MSM of the day wasn't involved with that situation as the modern day MSM have been involved with this election. There was journalistic integrity then that doesn't exist now. Facts and evidence was withheld from the media then, lies were told and then reinforced by the Warren commission. Several of the Warren commission were likely involved in the assassination

[Contrarian]

The MSM including the AP have been deceiving the American public for far more than 20 years Faux Pas.

The assassination of JFK was 57 years ago. When President Trump released un redacted files it was revealed that there was a shooter who fired shots in FRONT of JFK.

Did the legacy media cover this? Of course not, because they were complicit in the cover up, for reasons of "national security".

Shortly after that is when the CIA coined the phrase conspiracy theorist and the media is unrelenting in mocking anyone who doesn't go along with their lies.

I always laugh when the sheep say that Russian media is controlled by the Russian government, as if ours is not.

BTW all 5 attending Doctors in Texas initially confirmed that JFK was shot from the FRONT and a large portion of brain and skull fragments blew out the back.

You can watch the video of Jacqueline Kennedy crawling onto the rear trunk of the car and grabbing a portion of his brain with her hand, thinking she could put it back in place and save him. That would be the emotional response of almost any loving wife in severe shock.

There is absolutely no way to discount that his brain was blown out the BACK of his head, yet the lemmings, including Billy, prefer to believe the governments theories over obvious physical reality.

Meh. That's discussion probably for a different thread. I don't necessarily disagree with you on the JFK assassination but, the MSM of the day wasn't involved with that situation as the modern day MSM have been involved with this election. There was journalistic integrity then that doesn't exist now. Facts and evidence was withheld from the media then, lies were told and then reinforced by the Warren commission. Several of the Warren commission were likely involved in the assassination

Certainly the media back then was better overall, however they quickly realized if they didn't tow the official line that they could end up like Oswald and Jack Ruby: pushing daisies.

For me it is relevant because our modern media won't touch certain stories about that era.

However I certainly agree with you that people like Rachel Madow and Don Lemon are awful at real journalism.

And the effect of Big Tech censorship cannot be overstated either. It's the nail in the coffin of the formerly somewhat free USA.

[LoyalMan]

Upright American Friends,
I have just heard from my Chinese source that Vice President Mike Pence will not choose between 2 electoral sets.  The reason given is somewhat like this - Vice President does not have this Power to choose electoral sets.

So the final decision comes back to those Americans who have voted Trump as their President for 4 more years.

Also, Trump will announce/publish new evidences of this Election Coup on 6th January 2021.

[mhr7]

Upright American Friends,
I have just heard from my Chinese source that Vice President Mike Pence will not choose between 2 electoral sets.  The reason given is somewhat like this - Vice President does not have this Power to choose electoral sets.

That's the first sensible and correct thing you've said in this thread. Congratulations!

[mhr7]

You haven't proven anything. The VP can't change votes or do things the way he wants. I showed you the law pertaining to the role of the VP on Jan. 6th and there's nothing in there that gives him authority to do anything significant, period.

If I've told you once, I've told you 25 times. Google, Rachael Maddow and Joy Behar aren't your friends. You believe and quote them as if their statements/beliefs are actually legal and the final word.

I do? You must watch both quite a bit if you know exactly what they're saying. I have no idea about their opinions. In this thread I've provided primary and authoritative sources, if you want to argue against those be my guest. I'm done trying to convince you Billys of reality, you want no part of it. Please, stay in your echo chamber and leave reality to those of us who know what it is.

[Contrarian]

Prove it. Oh wait, you can't. Go back to gossiping with your Qanon sisters and being a good little patriot.

The proof is out there, it's irrefutable, it's massive and widespread. You refuse to acknowledge it until Rachael Maddow tells you it's okay to look at it. Keep your head squarely up your anus. Makes me no difference. Your romancing of communism is noted.

                                        

[Faux Pas]

I do? You must watch both quite a bit if you know exactly what they're saying. I have no idea about their opinions. In this thread I've provided primary and authoritative sources, if you want to argue against those be my guest. I'm done trying to convince you Billys of reality, you want no part of it. Please, stay in your echo chamber and leave reality to those of us who know what it is.

I don't need to watch them, I can just read your posts here. You're all three just a bunch of cackling hens at a hen party repeating the same thing. The narrative of the socialist left parading as democrats. Hopefully when you discover what a useful idiot you've been, it won't be too late.

[BillyB]

The explosion in Nashville was a suicide.

Instead of killing himself in the middle of nowhere, he decided to do it parking near a building containing machines that may be involved in election fraud.

There is absolutely no way to discount that his brain was blown out the BACK of his head, yet the lemmings, including Billy, prefer to believe the governments theories over obvious physical reality.

Not everything in life is a conspiracy theory. If you believe everything is a conspiracy theory, your social and love life will suffer.

Upright American Friends,
I have just heard from my Chinese source that Vice President Mike Pence will not choose between 2 electoral sets.  The reason given is somewhat like this - Vice President does not have this Power to choose electoral sets.

So Pence will choose just one of those electoral sets, right? Give your Chinese source the history lessons we provided here where past Presidents had to choose between two electoral sets and many times, there were unhappy people in the end.


Anyway, Pence's two week trip to Israel and other foreign nations after Jan 6th has been cancelled. Of course he'll be needed in America after Jan 6th because there's going to be a lot people crying "He can't do that!"

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pence-cancels-final-visit-to-israel-before-leaving-office/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Trump declassifies intel saying China may be paying bounties to kill American troops. Our intel agencies say one thing but MSM and the Democrats say it was Russia. Who to believe?

https://www.axios.com/scoop-trump-admin-declassifies-unconfirmed-intel-on-chinese-bounties-84131ec6-c54f-4556-8d0f-547131a343ef.html


This is plain stupid. City of Boston finally agrees to remove Freeman's statue showing Lincoln freeing slaves. It was offensive to some people.

https://therightscoop.com/city-of-boston-removes-statue-of-abraham-lincoln-freeing-a-slave/


Trump is AfricaWorld Man of the Year!!! Biden worked hard to get that award but after losing, he now says "They ain't Black".

https://africaworldnewspaper.com/president-donald-j-trump-is-africaworld-man-of-the-year-2020/


Did you guys watch the Georgia hearings today? One witness told the politicians to go buy a voting machine and as soon as you plug it it, it asks if you want to connect to the internet. These are the machines that election officials say can't connect to internet. One expert witness told the politicians as he speaks, white hat hackers are in voting machines and sending and receiving data to prove a point they do communicate with outside sources and can be manipulated. He also mention the secret thermostat on the wall was communicating with voting machines.

[Contrarian]

The explosion in Nashville was a suicide.

Instead of killing himself in the middle of nowhere, he decided to do it parking near a building containing machines that may be involved in election fraud.

There is absolutely no way to discount that his brain was blown out the BACK of his head, yet the lemmings, including Billy, prefer to believe the governments theories over obvious physical reality.

Not everything in life is a conspiracy theory.

As usual you haven't done any research, nor do you have the capacity to comprehend simple physics.

Stop behaving like a brain-dead sheep and read the un redacted portions which have been released. There are obvious and specific reasons why the government has not fully released the entire JFK files, 57 years later.

Here you are, believing the conspiracy theory that Trump was robbed by massive fraud, yet you're incapable of comprehending how and why JFK was assassinated by rogue actors within the US government.

I will make it as simple as possible: the powers that be hated JFK for similar reasons to hating Trump.

Your fantasy that Trump will still prevail is highly unlikely.

[BillyB]

Here you are, believing the conspiracy theory that Trump was robbed by massive fraud,

That's not a conspiracy theory. If you want to be successful in life, you need to recognize facts from fiction.

Your fantasy that Trump will still prevail is highly unlikely.

It's a conspiracy theory that Trump won't prevail. I know you don't believe MSM so what news sources are you using to believe Trump will hand over the government to corrupt people? Biden isn't getting Pentagon briefings and Trump is creating Executive orders every other day. Trump is not acting like he'll be out of a job in less than a month. He's as busy as ever. Let me know when Kamala quits her Senate job and Gina Haspel is found.


Las Vegas shooting done by an FBI sniper? Wikileaks just did another dump.

https://twitter.com/zoemiran/status/1344474357263859714/photo/1


Trump's daughter in law says how the vote will go on Jan 6th. She's implying Trump will win by a vote, not by Pence which could be their strategy. There would be less protest if Congress votes Trump in instead of one man.

https://twitter.com/BrandonStraka/status/1344292646395777024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1344292646395777024%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2020%2F12%2Fmust-see-lara-trump-lays-process-next-week-cast-aside-fraudulent-electoral-votes-resulting-president-trumps-victory-video%2F

[mhr7]

If you want to be successful in life, you need to recognize facts from fiction.

You must be living out of a cardboard box.

[LoyalMan]

Upright American Friends,
I have just heard from my Chinese source that Vice President Mike Pence will not choose between 2 electoral sets.  The reason given is somewhat like this - Vice President does not have this Power to choose electoral sets.

So Pence will choose just one of those electoral sets, right? Give your Chinese source the history lessons we provided here where past Presidents had to choose between two electoral sets and many times, there were unhappy people in the end.


Anyway, Pence's two week trip to Israel and other foreign nations after Jan 6th has been cancelled. Of course he'll be needed in America after Jan 6th because there's going to be a lot people crying "He can't do that!"

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pence-cancels-final-visit-to-israel-before-leaving-office/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The Chinese source predicts that Pence will not choose any electoral set from States with election dispute.  So, only elector tickets of States without dispute are counted.  So the final count is:
Trump gets 233 tickets, while Biden gets 227.

Trump wins.  Will it be the case?

My Chinese source says Trump has even won California State!!!  So Americans must support Trump!  Do not allow Chi-merica to rob USA and our Freedom!!!

[LoyalMan]

Stop behaving like a brain-dead sheep and read the un redacted portions which have been released. There are obvious and specific reasons why the government has not fully released the entire JFK files, 57 years later.

Here you are, believing the conspiracy theory that Trump was robbed by massive fraud, yet you're incapable of comprehending how and why JFK was assassinated by rogue actors within the US government.

I will make it as simple as possible: the powers that be hated JFK for similar reasons to hating Trump.

Your fantasy that Trump will still prevail is highly unlikely.

I also agree that those Wall Street financial bosses are very powerful.  You see from the history of USA.  Whenever a president plans to switch to a new currency system, he would be shot.

Trump Team's situation is no better than Lincoln, Kennedy, etc.  Trump is welcomed by Americans, but hated by Deep State and Chi-merica top persons.

[BillyB]

If you want to be successful in life, you need to recognize facts from fiction.

You must be living out of a cardboard box.

You're an election fraud denier. If you're playing a poker game and got caught cheating but deny it, do you think the other players will ignore it and hand over the pot of money to you? Biden is getting worried that the Secret Service is loyal to Trump so he got rid of some and surrounded himself with his former guards. The Secret Service is around Trump 24/7 and respect him? Don't they read and watch MSM to understand Trump is an incompetent asshole? After Jan 6th, the Secret Service may have to make a decision on who doesn't deserve Presidential protection.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/secret-service-making-changes-to-presidential-detail-amid-concerns-current-members-are-aligned-with-trump-report/ar-BB1cmujW?ocid=msedgntp

The Chinese source predicts that Pence will not choose any electoral set from States with election dispute.  So, only elector tickets of States without dispute are counted.  So the final count is:
Trump gets 233 tickets, while Biden gets 227.

Trump wins.  Will it be the case?

I don't know what option Trump/Pence will choose Jan 6th because they want to keep the Democrats confused. Pence can do what you mention is count no electors from states that sent dueling electors or he can count only Trump electors or he can count Democrat electors knowing enough Republicans will contest it and then it goes to a vote in both Houses who gets to be President and VP. The last option is the one that will not upset the Democrats as much as the first two but it also decrease the chance Trump wins since Pence is allowing a group of people to decide which adds more unknowns into the equation.


The other day Anonymous wrote his anonymous sources said Trump is a showman and will put on a show Jan 6th and it will be wild. They are rehearsing for the show right now. Pence will put the electoral votes in a Dominion voting machine and the machine will conclude Trump won with majority vote. Democrats will be angry so Pence will do a recount by running the votes in the machine again and the machine will conclude Trump won by even a larger margin than the first count. Pence will say the count is done, finished and proceed to wipe the machine's software so nobody can investigate the manner the machine counted the votes. Requests for investigations will be denied, there will be no transparency, and Democrats will just have to accept the results of the person in control of the counting. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

https://twitter.com/PatrickByrne/status/1344500117525688322/photo/1


In other news, Trump has done more than any other President to discourage slave labor by seizing products made by slaves.

https://thebl.com/us-news/another-president-trump-record-50-million-in-slave-labor-goods-seized.html

[BillyB]

More stuff from the investigation is coming out. Retired CIA Chief of Station said the servers in Germany send the data to Rome. Italian media says it happened at the US Embassy which was the home base of the election cheating. Some State Department personnel, CIA, UK's MI-6, and big Italian company Leonardo running the encrypted Italian military satellite were involved to rig the US election. They were the ones that ordered 5 States to shut down their counting on election night so they can manipulate the numbers since Trump's huge vote count broke their original algorithm. BC, if you're not arrested yet, what's the news say over there?

This is the biggest election scandal in our history and some of you guys want us to believe Trump will hand the government over to power hungry cheaters?

[mhr7]

I got $500 that says Biden becomes pesident. How much confidence do you have in your fantasies, Billy?

[BillyB]

I got $500 that says Biden becomes pesident. How much confidence do you have in your fantasies, Billy?

If you can PROVE you have $500 by Paypal'ing Manny that money, I'll Paypal him the same amount. Of course he'd have to agree to hold the money. You say Biden will win the Presidency and I'll say Trump. There is no time limit because there is a chance this contested election can run past Jan 20.

[mhr7]

I got $500 that says Biden becomes pesident. How much confidence do you have in your fantasies, Billy?

If you can PROVE you have $500 by Paypal'ing Manny that money, I'll Paypal him the same amount. Of course he'd have to agree to hold the money. You say Biden will win the Presidency and I'll say Trump. There is no time limit because there is a chance this contested election can run past Jan 20.

Fair enough.

[BillyB]

I got $500 that says Biden becomes pesident. How much confidence do you have in your fantasies, Billy?

If you can PROVE you have $500 by Paypal'ing Manny that money, I'll Paypal him the same amount. Of course he'd have to agree to hold the money. You say Biden will win the Presidency and I'll say Trump. There is no time limit because there is a chance this contested election can run past Jan 20.

Fair enough.

Send Manny a PM to see if he'll agree to participate. He could keep $50 out of the pot for his time if you'd agree to it too. Send the money friends and family so Paypal allows to the money to be transferred for free.

[Contrarian]

Just make the bet guys, no need to send $ overseas to the UK. That might not end well. 

Whoever doesn't pay gets banned for life! Billy the probability you are going to lose is 99.99%