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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2020, 07:13:45 PM »

The Democrats and media say no evidence exists. All those IP addresses and other data in Sydney Powell's evidence that lead to foreign interference means nothing to them.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2020, 08:16:08 PM »

The Democrats and media say no evidence exists. All those IP addresses and other data in Sydney Powell's evidence that lead to foreign interference means nothing to them.

IP addresses mean nothing if you can't prove they played any role in the outcome of our elections. There's absolutely nothing in those 270 pages that even makes a case for the US elections being fraudulent.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2020, 11:04:08 PM »

IP addresses mean nothing if you can't prove they played any role in the outcome of our elections. There's absolutely nothing in those 270 pages that even makes a case for the US elections being fraudulent.

The elections were fraudulent and totally corrupt. How you can continue to deny that does nothing but reveal your true colors as a sheeple and useful idiot. Grow a pair sissy. Take those blinders off and be an American Patriot. Use your brain for something other than "free shit"

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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2020, 11:42:14 PM »

IP addresses mean nothing if you can't prove they played any role in the outcome of our elections. There's absolutely nothing in those 270 pages that even makes a case for the US elections being fraudulent.

The elections were fraudulent and totally corrupt. How you can continue to deny that does nothing but reveal your true colors as a sheeple and useful idiot. Grow a pair sissy. Take those blinders off and be an American Patriot. Use your brain for something other than "free shit"

Prove it. Oh wait, you can't. Go back to gossiping with your Qanon sisters and being a good little patriot.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2020, 07:17:56 AM »

Prove it. Oh wait, you can't. Go back to gossiping with your Qanon sisters and being a good little patriot.

The proof is out there, it's irrefutable, it's massive and widespread. You refuse to acknowledge it until Rachael Maddow tells you it's okay to look at it. Keep your head squarely up your anus. Makes me no difference. Your romancing of communism is noted.

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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2020, 08:43:58 AM »

Prove it. Oh wait, you can't. Go back to gossiping with your Qanon sisters and being a good little patriot.

The proof is out there, it's irrefutable, it's massive and widespread. You refuse to acknowledge it until Rachael Maddow tells you it's okay to look at it. Keep your head squarely up your anus. Makes me no difference. Your romancing of communism is noted.

Dypocrite covers his own eyes and says "Prove to me that 2020 USA Election is a Fraud! I see no evidence at all."

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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2020, 10:39:08 AM »
IP addresses mean nothing if you can't prove they played any role in the outcome of our elections. There's absolutely nothing in those 270 pages that even makes a case for the US elections being fraudulent.

Weren't you recently upset foreign actors got into government organizations through SolarWinds? Do you think harmless activity occurred? Same goes with elections when foreign actors get our voter info, get into or receive info from voting machines. They didn't spend all that effort to do so for no harmless reason.

https://in.news.yahoo.com/us-alert-between-nevada-govt-034043104.html

Democrats love voters who refuse to believe they can do no wrong. There's massive fraud at low and high levels involving enemies foreign and domestic. Trump doesn't have to turn the government over to enemies even if you voted for them.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2020, 01:52:58 PM »
IP addresses mean nothing if you can't prove they played any role in the outcome of our elections. There's absolutely nothing in those 270 pages that even makes a case for the US elections being fraudulent.

Weren't you recently upset foreign actors got into government organizations through SolarWinds? Do you think harmless activity occurred? Same goes with elections when foreign actors get our voter info, get into or receive info from voting machines. They didn't spend all that effort to do so

The difference is that one's been proven, the other has not.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2020, 02:11:58 PM »
IP addresses mean nothing if you can't prove they played any role in the outcome of our elections. There's absolutely nothing in those 270 pages that even makes a case for the US elections being fraudulent.

Weren't you recently upset foreign actors got into government organizations through SolarWinds? Do you think harmless activity occurred? Same goes with elections when foreign actors get our voter info, get into or receive info from voting machines. They didn't spend all that effort to do so

The difference is that one's been proven, the other has not.

There's much more election fraud proof thrown in your face than Solarwind proof. The only difference is your media reported the Solarwind hack so you think it's true. If they didn't report it and Trump said it happened, you'd probably think it wasn't true.

This year Foreign actors hacked into unemployment in multiple states. They hit my state for 600 million. Solarwinds was hacked by foreign actors and thousands of companies and organizations were affected. But YOU want us to believe our last election was the safest and most secure election in our history. lol

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/process-fast-tracking-jobless-aid-made-wa-vulnerable-fraud-attack-auditor-finds/5QO3FCK7FVAOPH5UCCCVIEARRQ/

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1343602647270486016


Dominion VP Eric Coomer owns patents so voting machines can go online and patents are owned by China.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/wake-america-bold-billionaire-offers-1-million-bounty-dominions-eric-coomers-comeuppance/

https://twitter.com/hppyjesusfreak/status/1342991363105669120


Here's a document with Georgia reporting they have Scytl working for them

https://cviog.uga.edu/_resources/documents/training-and-education/gavreo-conference-documents/election-night-reporting2019-final.pdf


Scytl lied when they said they didn't have servers in Frankfurt when this 2019 document says they have servers in Frankfurt to help with the European elections. Our European friends may be experiencing some of the BS we experience in our elections and don't know it yet.

https://i.ibb.co/rKhDDtL/Franfurt-Germany-Skytl-server-proof.jpg


Here's a 2014 article saying Scytl is designed for election fraud.

https://columbusfreepress.com/article/scytl-has-all-tools-it-needs-election-fraud
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2020, 03:13:52 PM »
IP addresses mean nothing if you can't prove they played any role in the outcome of our elections. There's absolutely nothing in those 270 pages that even makes a case for the US elections being fraudulent.

Weren't you recently upset foreign actors got into government organizations through SolarWinds? Do you think harmless activity occurred? Same goes with elections when foreign actors get our voter info, get into or receive info from voting machines. They didn't spend all that effort to do so

The difference is that one's been proven, the other has not.

There's much more election fraud proof thrown in your face than Solarwind proof. The only difference is your media reported the Solarwind hack so you think it's true. If they didn't report it and Trump said it happened, you'd probably think it wasn't true.

This year Foreign actors hacked into unemployment in multiple states. They hit my state for 600 million. Solarwinds was hacked by foreign actors and thousands of companies and organizations were affected. But YOU want us to believe our last election was the safest and most secure election in our history. lol

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/process-fast-tracking-jobless-aid-made-wa-vulnerable-fraud-attack-auditor-finds/5QO3FCK7FVAOPH5UCCCVIEARRQ/

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1343602647270486016


Dominion VP Eric Coomer owns patents so voting machines can go online and patents are owned by China.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/wake-america-bold-billionaire-offers-1-million-bounty-dominions-eric-coomers-comeuppance/

https://twitter.com/hppyjesusfreak/status/1342991363105669120


Here's a document with Georgia reporting they have Scytl working for them

https://cviog.uga.edu/_resources/documents/training-and-education/gavreo-conference-documents/election-night-reporting2019-final.pdf


Scytl lied when they said they didn't have servers in Frankfurt when this 2019 document says they have servers in Frankfurt to help with the European elections. Our European friends may be experiencing some of the BS we experience in our elections and don't know it yet.

https://i.ibb.co/rKhDDtL/Franfurt-Germany-Skytl-server-proof.jpg


Here's a 2014 article saying Scytl is designed for election fraud.

https://columbusfreepress.com/article/scytl-has-all-tools-it-needs-election-fraud

No, I believe Solarwinds because numerous government agencies confirmed it, Scytl admitted a long time ago it had a temporary office in Frankfurt but it was closed. thegatewaypundit is a bullshit website with bullshit information.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2020, 03:24:48 PM »

Prove it. Oh wait, you can't. Go back to gossiping with your Qanon sisters and being a good little patriot.

The proof is out there, it's irrefutable, it's massive and widespread. You refuse to acknowledge it until Rachael Maddow tells you it's okay to look at it. Keep your head squarely up your anus. Makes me no difference. Your romancing of communism is noted.

As is your romancing of autocracy.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2020, 03:27:05 PM »

Prove it. Oh wait, you can't. Go back to gossiping with your Qanon sisters and being a good little patriot.

The proof is out there, it's irrefutable, it's massive and widespread. You refuse to acknowledge it until Rachael Maddow tells you it's okay to look at it. Keep your head squarely up your anus. Makes me no difference. Your romancing of communism is noted.

Dypocrite covers his own eyes and says "Prove to me that 2020 USA Election is a Fraud! I see no evidence at all."

STFU Loyalman.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2020, 03:54:35 PM »
No, I believe Solarwinds because numerous government agencies confirmed it, Scytl admitted a long time ago it had a temporary office in Frankfurt but it was closed. thegatewaypundit is a bullshit website with bullshit information.


Find me some articles from MSM. Scytl originally said it didn't have servers in Frankfurt. They lied but people dug up old articles so they changed their stories to say servers are there but they weren't turned on but they were turned on. White hat hackers have the packet and traffic info to Frankfurt the voting machines sent.

 Name me two government agencies that confirmed Solarwinds hacked them. Most government agencies don't have a clue they've been hacked and no clue who done it. Your media reports they been hacked and you believe it without proof. There are many court filings with evidence which includes witnesses that say they've seen or found fraud in the elections. NO court dismissed a case based on merit which means NO judge looked at evidence before dismissing it. People go to prison for life on less evidence than we have for election fraud.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2020, 04:36:53 PM »
No, I believe Solarwinds because numerous government agencies confirmed it, Scytl admitted a long time ago it had a temporary office in Frankfurt but it was closed. thegatewaypundit is a bullshit website with bullshit information.


Find me some articles from MSM. Scytl originally said it didn't have servers in Frankfurt. They lied but people dug up old articles so they changed their stories to say servers are there but they weren't turned on but they were turned on. White hat hackers have the packet and traffic info to Frankfurt the voting machines sent.

 Name me two government agencies that confirmed Solarwinds hacked them. Most government agencies don't have a clue they've been hacked and no clue who done it. Your media reports they been hacked and you believe it without proof. There are many court filings with evidence which includes witnesses that say they've seen or found fraud in the elections. NO court dismissed a case based on merit which means NO judge looked at evidence before dismissing it. People go to prison for life on less evidence than we have for election fraud.

It's right on their own website -

1) Scytl has NO presence in Frankfurt, Germany

The U.S. military has not seized anything related to Scytl in Frankfurt, Barcelona or anywhere else. The company does not even have offices in Frankfurt and does not have servers or computers in the German city.
Servers in Frankfurt were used for a specific project for the European Parliament in 2019. These back-up servers were closed in September 2019.
The technologies implemented by Scytl in the United States are hosted and managed within the United States by our local subsidiary, SOE Software, based in Tampa, Florida.
The company currently has offices in: Spain, France, Greece, the US, Canada, and Australia.
Associated Press published on November 14 an article debunking the fake news.


https://www.scytl.com/en/fact-checking-regarding-us-elections-debunking-fake-news/

And your local news -

The only reference to a Scytl server in Frankfurt is in a highlight of its election night reporting for the 2019 European Parliament elections. To accomplish that Scytl could do so without a hitch, the company said it “set up the data collection center in Barcelona, as well as an emergency back-up center in Frankfurt.”

https://www.king5.com/article/news/verify/claims-scytl-german-servers-raided-false/507-e120d34c-3da0-4367-9d9c-9e97a30e2ecf

U.S. government agencies were ordered to scour their networks for malware and disconnect potentially compromised servers after authorities learned that the Treasury and Commerce departments had been hacked in a months-long global cyberespionage campaign. The campaign was discovered when a prominent cybersecurity firm learned it had been breached.

The apparent conduit for the Treasury and Commerce Department hacks - and the FireEye compromise - is a hugely popular piece of server software called SolarWinds.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/solarwinds-orion-hack-government-agencies-treasury-fireeye/

You could have done all this yourself.

No court dismissed a Trump related case on merit? Better check that.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2020, 05:37:03 PM »
There you go again getting your education from MSM and from the organizations in question. Remember, 7 States sent dueling electors to be counted Jan 6. Eventually you will wake up to reality and you will have to decide if it's worth picking up a gun to help insert Biden as President.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2020, 06:06:39 PM »
There you go again getting your education from MSM and from the organizations in question. Remember, 7 States sent dueling electors to be counted Jan 6. Eventually you will wake up to reality and you will have to decide if it's worth picking up a gun to help insert Biden as President.

You asked for msm articles. Once again, there are no dueling sets of electors, each state has ONE set of certified electors. Jan. 6th will pass without any fanfare.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2020, 06:39:34 PM »
There you go again getting your education from MSM and from the organizations in question. Remember, 7 States sent dueling electors to be counted Jan 6. Eventually you will wake up to reality and you will have to decide if it's worth picking up a gun to help insert Biden as President.

You asked for msm articles. Once again, there are no dueling sets of electors, each state has ONE set of certified electors. Jan. 6th will pass without any fanfare.

 It's happened twice before, and Kennedy ended up winning Hawaii by sending alternate electors.

https://www.ntd.com/john-eastman-explains-the-historical-precedents-on-dueling-electors_540953.html

So John Kennedy’s electors also met on their own and cast their votes for John Kennedy. When the results of that litigation were concluded, and it was determined that Kennedy had actually won Hawaii. The governor retroactively certified the Kennedy electors, and those votes are the ones that were opened in Congress at the joint session of Congress in the beginning of January.”

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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2020, 07:30:05 PM »
 Here's another twist that i heard about today. I was watching Steve Bannon's war room and he was asking Trump's lawyer Boris Epshteyn what they were planning next, it looked like they were running out of options and time was running out. Epshteyn said that people have to remember that at the end of the day it is congress who determines who won the election and there was nothing to worry about.

He never went into details but I also found this video where a guy explains that Pence can refuse to even open the envelope containing a State's electors if that State broke federal election laws and as a result could sway the outcome of that election. And according to the constitution Pence has the final say in this. No debate, no court cases, nothing. The States he rejects would not be counted and if he does this with all the States in dispute then Trump will win 232 votes to Biden's 222. The guy also mentions that this was also said on the Rasmussen site. If this is true then Trump should have this in the bag.

 The guy starts explaining how this works at about the 9 minute mark of the video


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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2020, 08:37:38 PM »

7 States sent dueling electors because they did not investigate any fraud in their elections. By sending dueling electors, they can say they didn't certify a fraudulent election, send only fraudulent electors and nobody goes to jail. By sending dueling electors, they give the President of the Senate, VP Pence to power to choose and reject so now it's up to Pence to decide which electors are fraudulent. Will he participate in the fraud by counting fraudulent electors?

No State asked police or the FBI to investigate any fraud in their elections. They have not initiated independent forensic audits of their voting machines. They have not asked judges to look at the evidence. States did not follow their own election rules since they refused to have observers observe the vote count at all times, having more votes than voters, not checking signatures etc.... Too much BS to list so Pence can call States on their election errors and can make a decision which set of electors to count or accept none.

Team Trump played this brilliantly and if there is violence, it will be initiated by the left, not by him or the right. Trump even got MSM fooled by getting them to believe he cut ties with Sydney Powell. Powell released her evidence showing foreign interference putting pressure on Congress to help Trump. With this new evidence Trump never had but always knew about, he now has powers he can use due to this newly reveal evidence to use the military to stomp out riots that support an election that foreign powers got involved in.

After Jan 6th, will the left and Biden leave quietly or do they have a playbook they're going to use to scream and shout, and call for riots to destroy America? Lots of Patriots are going to be in D.C. on the 6th, not to put pressure on Congress but to celebrate. Party time! Of course MSM and Democrats will claim Trump stole an election and call for an investigation and take it to court but Pence has the final say and Courts can't override a man with that has been given plenary power by the Constitution.

Here is Biden complaining he isn't getting Pentagon briefings or cooperation from other departments and Trump for a smooth transition of power. There will be 'smooth' but there won't be a transition of power.

https://twitter.com/MajorPatriot/status/1343728435571683330
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2020, 08:48:47 PM »
Here's another twist that i heard about today. I was watching Steve Bannon's war room and he was asking Trump's lawyer Boris Epshteyn what they were planning next, it looked like they were running out of options and time was running out. Epshteyn said that people have to remember that at the end of the day it is congress who determines who won the election and there was nothing to worry about.

He never went into details but I also found this video where a guy explains that Pence can refuse to even open the envelope containing a State's electors if that State broke federal election laws and as a result could sway the outcome of that election. And according to the constitution Pence has the final say in this. No debate, no court cases, nothing. The States he rejects would not be counted and if he does this with all the States in dispute then Trump will win 232 votes to Biden's 222. The guy also mentions that this was also said on the Rasmussen site. If this is true then Trump should have this in the bag.

Congress won't change the electoral vote, the Democrats in the House won't approve any objections and there are about a half dozen Republicans in the Senate who have said they won't approve any either. Plus Mitch McConnell has discouraged any senators from objecting. Pence's job is purely ceremonial, he has no constitutional authority whatsoever to deny a state its certified electoral votes. If Pence refuses to open envelopes, the president pro tempore of the Senate, Chuck Grassly, will.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2020, 08:55:55 PM »
7 States sent dueling electors because they did not investigate any fraud in their elections. By sending dueling electors, they can say they didn't certify a fraudulent election, send only fraudulent electors and nobody goes to jail. By sending dueling electors, they give the President of the Senate, VP Pence to power to choose and reject so now it's up to Pence to decide which electors are fraudulent. Will he participate in the fraud by counting fraudulent electors?

You couldn't possibly be any more clueless if you tried. 
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2020, 09:11:32 PM »
Here's another twist that i heard about today. I was watching Steve Bannon's war room and he was asking Trump's lawyer Boris Epshteyn what they were planning next, it looked like they were running out of options and time was running out. Epshteyn said that people have to remember that at the end of the day it is congress who determines who won the election and there was nothing to worry about.

He never went into details but I also found this video where a guy explains that Pence can refuse to even open the envelope containing a State's electors if that State broke federal election laws and as a result could sway the outcome of that election. And according to the constitution Pence has the final say in this. No debate, no court cases, nothing. The States he rejects would not be counted and if he does this with all the States in dispute then Trump will win 232 votes to Biden's 222. The guy also mentions that this was also said on the Rasmussen site. If this is true then Trump should have this in the bag.

Congress won't change the electoral vote, the Democrats in the House won't approve any objections and there are about a half dozen Republicans in the Senate who have said they won't approve any either. Plus Mitch McConnell has discouraged any senators from objecting. Pence's job is purely ceremonial, he has no constitutional authority whatsoever to deny a state its certified electoral votes. If Pence refuses to open envelopes, the president pro tempore of the Senate, Chuck Grassly, will.

 Got anything to back that up or are you just making stuff up again? Show us some legislation where it says that.

 According to what was said Pence has all the say, congress has nothing to do with that. I honestly don't know, I never read up to see if that is true. So show me

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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2020, 10:09:46 PM »
Here's another twist that i heard about today. I was watching Steve Bannon's war room and he was asking Trump's lawyer Boris Epshteyn what they were planning next, it looked like they were running out of options and time was running out. Epshteyn said that people have to remember that at the end of the day it is congress who determines who won the election and there was nothing to worry about.

He never went into details but I also found this video where a guy explains that Pence can refuse to even open the envelope containing a State's electors if that State broke federal election laws and as a result could sway the outcome of that election. And according to the constitution Pence has the final say in this. No debate, no court cases, nothing. The States he rejects would not be counted and if he does this with all the States in dispute then Trump will win 232 votes to Biden's 222. The guy also mentions that this was also said on the Rasmussen site. If this is true then Trump should have this in the bag.

Congress won't change the electoral vote, the Democrats in the House won't approve any objections and there are about a half dozen Republicans in the Senate who have said they won't approve any either. Plus Mitch McConnell has discouraged any senators from objecting. Pence's job is purely ceremonial, he has no constitutional authority whatsoever to deny a state its certified electoral votes. If Pence refuses to open envelopes, the president pro tempore of the Senate, Chuck Grassly, will.

 Got anything to back that up or are you just making stuff up again? Show us some legislation where it says that.

 According to what was said Pence has all the say, congress has nothing to do with that. I honestly don't know, I never read up to see if that is true. So show me

When have I previously made stuff up? Doing research is easy. I don't know why you and Billy think I'm here to do it for you.
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Re: Sidney Powell Releases 270 Pages Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2020, 10:32:05 PM »
Here's another twist that i heard about today. I was watching Steve Bannon's war room and he was asking Trump's lawyer Boris Epshteyn what they were planning next, it looked like they were running out of options and time was running out. Epshteyn said that people have to remember that at the end of the day it is congress who determines who won the election and there was nothing to worry about.

He never went into details but I also found this video where a guy explains that Pence can refuse to even open the envelope containing a State's electors if that State broke federal election laws and as a result could sway the outcome of that election. And according to the constitution Pence has the final say in this. No debate, no court cases, nothing. The States he rejects would not be counted and if he does this with all the States in dispute then Trump will win 232 votes to Biden's 222. The guy also mentions that this was also said on the Rasmussen site. If this is true then Trump should have this in the bag.

Congress won't change the electoral vote, the Democrats in the House won't approve any objections and there are about a half dozen Republicans in the Senate who have said they won't approve any either. Plus Mitch McConnell has discouraged any senators from objecting. Pence's job is purely ceremonial, he has no constitutional authority whatsoever to deny a state its certified electoral votes. If Pence refuses to open envelopes, the president pro tempore of the Senate, Chuck Grassly, will.

 Got anything to back that up or are you just making stuff up again? Show us some legislation where it says that.

 According to what was said Pence has all the say, congress has nothing to do with that. I honestly don't know, I never read up to see if that is true. So show me

When have I previously made stuff up? Doing research is easy. I don't know why you and Billy think I'm here to do it for you.

 When you tried to say Trump hasn't done anything since the election and I showed you links where he did... thats just one of the times.

 We both gave links to back up what we say. You come along saying it is wrong yet don't show any proof why. Now that you are challenged about it you are trying to weasel your way out of it. The onus is on you to back your claims, not us. It's not the first time you've done that and I am sure it won't be the last. What you don't realize is how foolish you look when you give such stupid excuses to not back your BS. And how foolish you look when you insult what someone says instead of responding with a rebuttal, like you just did with Billy. Tell me, do you really think anyone who reads that thinks it's a good argument? Sorry, but around these here parts we call that a cop out!