UK Lockdown 2

[Manny]

Not sure about the rest of the country, but the so-called lockdown doesn't seem noticeable in the north.

Wifey was at the dentist in the city centre this morning and she said it was quiet there, but outside the city centre apart from some shops being shut, traffic is a tad lighter than usual, but things seem pretty normal.

When you think about it, its only non essential shops, salons, pubs and restaurants that don't offer takeaway that are closed. Looks to me like a great many retail outlets consider themselves 'essential businesses' and are carrying on as normal. Washing machine shops, pet shops and all kinds are still open usual.

Back in March when Lockdown 1 was a thing, the streets were deserted apart from the odd hapless soul running out of the supermarket with a multi pack of bog roll under each arm.

Now it looks to me like many people are simply ignoring it and carrying on as usual. Which I don't disagree with as the numbers Boris and Co are using to justify this are disingenuous at best.

[Bruce Lee]

Same down in Birmingham, roads busy as always, no difference whatsoever in fact, if shops can’t loosely tie-in the word “essential” they’ll go click and collect instead, neighbours had firework night as normal, all 5 kids in attendance each with their own sprogs!!!

The public aren’t buying into it this time and most business are just doing everything they can to survive.

I suspect the entire country will get punished for this - Christmas is going bye bye!!!

[andrewfi]

Bruce, I really hope that you're wrong, but I think you're right.

This thing exists, it kills people and renders healthy people unhealthy for, perhaps, the rest of their lives.

Just because it hasn't happened to me doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I am planning to be over immediately after December 2nd but I'm not signing up for anything I can't cancel. Same for Christmas. My family is going to be spread across 4 countries in 2 continents for the first time ever.

[LoyalMan]

Bruce, I really hope that you're wrong, but I think you're right.

This thing exists, it kills people and renders healthy people unhealthy for, perhaps, the rest of their lives.

Just because it hasn't happened to me doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I am planning to be over immediately after December 2nd but I'm not signing up for anything I can't cancel. Same for Christmas. My family is going to be spread across 4 countries in 2 continents for the first time ever.

How do you know this things really exist?!?  You haven't seen this things in your own eyes.  A digital picture can be edited, right?

[Steveboy]

Bruce, I really hope that you're wrong, but I think you're right.

This thing exists, it kills people and renders healthy people unhealthy for, perhaps, the rest of their lives.

Just because it hasn't happened to me doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I am planning to be over immediately after December 2nd but I'm not signing up for anything I can't cancel. Same for Christmas. My family is going to be spread across 4 countries in 2 continents for the first time ever.

How do you know this things really exist?!?  You haven't seen this things in your own eyes.  A digital picture can be edited, right?

?? You mean like yesterday when I was driving around on Mars looking for a sweet shop? 

[andrewfi]

How do you know this things really exist?!?  You haven't seen this things in your own eyes.  A digital picture can be edited, right?

Are you OK?

To which picture do you refer? Are you fantasising again?

[Manny]

This thing exists, it kills people

It kills less than 1% of those who have underlying conditions. Like flu.

and renders healthy people unhealthy for, perhaps, the rest of their lives.

Misleading. Again the numbers must be microscopic. Half of people have no symptoms and everyone else mostly has some lurgy, a temperature and a cough for a few days.

Hardly worth closing society down and making everyone wear a face nappy for.

There are ulterior motives afoot here.

[Contrarian]

This thing exists, it kills people

It kills less than 1% of those who have underlying conditions. Like flu.

and renders healthy people unhealthy for, perhaps, the rest of their lives.

Misleading. Again the numbers must be microscopic. Half of people have no symptoms and everyone else mostly has some lurgy, a temperature and a cough for a few days.

Hardly worth closing society down and making everyone wear a face nappy for.

There are ulterior motives afoot here.

I felt that way from day one and I believe this doubly now.

[Steveboy]

This thing exists, it kills people

It kills less than 1% of those who have underlying conditions. Like flu.

and renders healthy people unhealthy for, perhaps, the rest of their lives.

Misleading. Again the numbers must be microscopic. Half of people have no symptoms and everyone else mostly has some lurgy, a temperature and a cough for a few days.

Hardly worth closing society down and making everyone wear a face nappy for.

There are ulterior motives afoot here.

There are ulterior motives afoot here. . Yes first part of the plan is to enslave everyone in debt so you have to keep your gob shut.. Second is to make you pathetic, that means carry a cup of Costa coffee in your hand all day and a mobile in the other hand, so you cannot manage without coffee and mobile, then its to brainwash you into thinking you cannot live without facebook and some twat liking you.. So now the final test is to see if they can control you en mass .. that is the major plan .. like in the movie The time machine when the horn sounds the humans go dumb and walk into the caves to be eaten..

[Texan77]

It kills less than 1% of those who have underlying conditions. Like flu.

Misleading. Again the numbers must be microscopic. Half of people have no symptoms and everyone else mostly has some lurgy, a temperature and a cough for a few days.

Hardly worth closing society down and making everyone wear a face nappy for.

There are ulterior motives afoot here.

Manny you refuse to look at all the data. A USA air craft carrier got the virus and has to pull into port because enough people on the ship got sick enough that the ship could no longer function.  This does not happen with the flu. The same thing happen to a French air craft carrier.  In the USA we ran very close to food shortage because enough people got sick or refused to work in food packing plants where we were running out of food. I suppose you people in the UK do not need food. Death in food packaging plants here was very high. It seem people in closed areas that get repeated exposure get much sicker than others.  It may seem harmless but sociality can not function if you can not control this disease.

I feel it is time to start using the vaccines. I feel the risk of not using the vaccines at this point is greater than possible effects from using it.

[Contrarian]

It kills less than 1% of those who have underlying conditions. Like flu.

Misleading. Again the numbers must be microscopic. Half of people have no symptoms and everyone else mostly has some lurgy, a temperature and a cough for a few days.

Hardly worth closing society down and making everyone wear a face nappy for.

There are ulterior motives afoot here.

Manny you refuse to look at all the data. A USA air craft carrier got the virus and has to pull into port because enough people on the ship got sick enough that the ship could no longer function.  This does not happen with the flu. The same thing happen to a French air craft carrier.  In the USA we ran very close to food shortage because enough people got sick or refused to work in food packing plants where we were running out of food. I suppose you people in the UK do not need food. Death in food packaging plants here was very high. It seem people in closed areas that get repeated exposure get much sicker than others.  It may seem harmless but sociality can not function if you can not control this disease.

I feel it is time to start using the vaccines. I feel the risk of not using the vaccines at this point is greater than possible effects from using it.

Texan you are really gullible.

NHS worker cannot stand the lies and divulges the truth

https://www.globalresearch.ca/hero-healthcare-assistant-tells-truth/5728760

[cufflinks]

Just wow what happened to a free GB?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/07/brits-could-be-fined-200-for-leaving-house-without-reasonable-excuse/

[Contrarian]

30,000 Doctors write to NHS

https://climate-science.press/2020/10/30/doctors-of-the-world-unite-against-covid-tyranny/?amp=1

[Manny]

Just wow what happened to a free GB?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/07/brits-could-be-fined-200-for-leaving-house-without-reasonable-excuse/

This nonsense isn’t happening where we live, but I’m sure it’s coming.

If you’re self-employed you’re always “going to work” so you’re covered there. Failing which, saying you’re going to a Black Lives Matter meeting should have the copper falling on one knee and sending you on your way I’m sure. 

[Manny]

Big protest in Manchester today.

Covered by the Evening News here: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/live-lockdown-protest-manchester-piccadilly-19244099

They describe a "few hundred" people. Looking at the Instagram story of the organisers @riseup_manchester, I'd say it looks more like several thousand.

Looks like Rod Liddle was right:

The government is already aware that for a couple of weeks the polls have been changing: working-class voters have had it with lockdown. And when the kickback comes, it will come from the north.

The science has changed since March. So, too, the appetite of the public for restrictions that are often absurd and seem to have had no effect on the spread of the virus. Where the north leads, the rest of the country may soon follow.

[Contrarian]

Big protest in Manchester today.

Covered by the Evening News here: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/live-lockdown-protest-manchester-piccadilly-19244099

They describe a "few hundred" people. Looking at the Instagram story of the organisers @riseup_manchester, I'd say it looks more like several thousand.

Looks like Rod Liddle was right:

The government is already aware that for a couple of weeks the polls have been changing: working-class voters have had it with lockdown. And when the kickback comes, it will come from the north.

The science has changed since March. So, too, the appetite of the public for restrictions that are often absurd and seem to have had no effect on the spread of the virus. Where the north leads, the rest of the country may soon follow.

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"Condemning the protest on Sunday evening, GMP said they estimated 600 were in attendance and said police officers responding to the incident were left injured.

They also said a large number of people had travelled to Manchester for the protest - including one group who came via coach from Cumbria."

[Texan77]

May parts of the USA are also experiencing trouble with a virus come back. A lot of this is hidden behind the election news not getting the coverage it normally would. Lock downs in some parts of the country are being considered again. 

[Manny]

Near where we live (and I assume other places too) they're dong drive through flu vaccinations. They're even touting for them by SMS.

I got one today, as I was leaving there was a bus full of oldies on the way in. 

Looks like the practice for the Covid vaccines we will see in the near future.

[NS1]

This virus is training us on how they wish us to behave in the future.
Media has managed to control the masses.
Say it enough and folks beleive and follow.

[rosco]

This virus is training us on how they wish us to behave in the future.
Media has managed to control the masses.
Say it enough and folks beleive and follow.

I agree with this.

I'm not dismissing the whole covid thing as BS but it feels like the available data is purposely unclear and open to being manipulated. I believe that covid is a real threat to those who are in the vulnerable category but I believe that most of us aren't in that category.

[Danchik]

I was invited to a Latin dance club on Halloween and it was packed with people dancing and drinking in close quarters till the wee hours as is customary in Moscow. You know, what you might expect at a night club. I was seen twirling my date around on the dance floor amongst scores of people and seen drinking coronas on the sideline in the virus' honour.

I had to register to a site and I received a QR code for tracking I presume.

Well, 2 weeks later and it looks like everything is ok and no one had/caught the virus.

However, as of the12th November all bars/night clubs have to close at 11pm, speaking of manipulation. Because we all know that the corona virus starts parrying after 11pm and goes home at 12pm when places open back up. 

[Manny]

The black market of things seems to have got organised much faster this time.

Many hairdressers and nail technicians are working mobile on the quiet. Wifey got me a coat repaired someplace the other day as the place I usually use for alterations was closed.

Lots of shops can get around it by claiming to be click and collect. I know antique stores and all kinds of places that have reopened this week. I think the protest has emboldened many.

[Guile]

I heard London is going back into lockdown as well.  I wanted to get over there but that won't be happening for awhile.

[BillyB]

I got an Iraqi guy working for me and his parents live in the UK. He tells me there is a huge fine if there is more than 6 people in a house during the pandemic. Any truth to what his parents are saying?

[AvHdB]

I got an Iraqi guy working for me and his parents live in the UK. He tells me there is a huge fine if there is more than 6 people in a house during the pandemic. Any truth to what his parents are saying?

My daughter is in Uni in the UK. She shares the house with 8 other. Total of 9, along with the occasional bed mate/lost and found /boy-girl toy.