More Americans and Guns.

[Orchid]

I would choose my 1943 'American Fork and Hoe' bayonet and not my M1 Garand?

1980 girl would be a better choice. 

[Manny]

Putin stated he could overrun any EU capital in a week and has threatened to nuke you lot repeatedly if you do not back off ill advised sanctions protecting a thug UA regime of Mafiya criminals -

All Putins speeches are documented on the Kremlin website. Please link us to the ones that say what you claim.

fact is the USA is strong and getting stronger as the economy rebounds robustly here.

 

while your 1,200+ mosques full of radical islamists piss all over the basket of rights you hand over to them with no concept that these rights should be earned.  Not only has the rabid liberalism and multiculturalism of the past 50 years severely weakened the UK you are now being actively undermined by an army of native born ISIS sympaticos.

So your Muslims are different? Yours all drive pick up trucks with gun racks on, right? 

You lot should pray on bended knee to God Almighty every night for a powerful and prosperous USA maintaining a special relationship with your Crown, Parliament, Queen and Country.

The 'special relationship' is a myth. We'd be better off developing a relationship with Russia than the US. Imagine how many wars we wouldn't have had to participate in then?

[andrewfi]

I now have an image of a bloke,  actually millions of blokes,  waking up in the morning and thinking 'what shall I do with this fine day' and then each of those guys says to himself and his gathered family 'today is the day I must protect our right to carry guns by going and buying another one'. What a marvellous but silly idea Slumba!

The reality is that with  a very few exceptions for hunting and competition each weapon is purchased from fear. You scaredy cats might call it personal security or some other euphemism for fear,  but that's it. If you were not afraid of something happening to you then you'd not perceive a need to defend yourselves.

Problem is that the generalised fear that you lot have is then reflected in the choices you make on a larger scale. Think of the indignities that you put up with and foist upon the world as a result of the largest con job ever carried out. Think of the millions now dead as a result of your fears arising from that con job.

Your use of weapons and pitiful bleating about it is a micro scale reflection of the macro level society of fear.

No US government will ever take your fetish objects away because they know that each and every gun reminds it's owner and those who become the victims of their use  that it is the US citizen's role to be scared and that the government's job is to protect you from the nasty,  nasty world.

[Markje]

I have never felt the need to own or use a gun.

Strange country America is sometimes.

Although I do feel our police/military is understaffed and too much anti-violence, I never felt so unsafe i thought about owning/using a gun.

Whilst getting one in Netherlands is legal, providing you abide by certain rules and checks.

[Volshe]

How frightened of one's own country and countrymen does one have to be to even think about carrying a gun on one's lap?

Yes I know, but folks over the pond automatically believe all of us on this side of the pond who drive
trucks are gun toting hillbillies  So it is standard equipment. Not to disappoint them,
let them believe we all have them or are getting them shortly 

It's not fear, it's part of our culture. Everyone i know has them, me included, no one ever made anything stupid. One culture can't be judged by other culture's measures (same with Americans and "democracy", seems they have problems understanding we don't want their model and are ok with our own )

p.s. as per "hilbillies"... come over, bro, try calling my cousins mountain Marko or Petar... 

[Manny]

No US government will ever take your fetish objects away because they know that each and every gun reminds it's owner and those who become the victims of their use  that it is the US citizen's role to be scared and that the government's job is to protect you from the nasty,  nasty world.

After Sandy Hook they started a buy back in some places:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250233/Sandy-Hook-shooting-Buyback-program-Camden-New-Jersey-collects-record-number-guns.html



And in SF: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/12/12/3-largest-bay-area-cities-to-hold-gun-buyback-drives-during-sandy-hook-2-year-anniversary/

San Jose: http://kron4.com/2014/12/13/gun-buyback-happening-in-san-jose-to-mark-2-year-anniversary-of-sandy-hook/

And in LA, two rocket launchers turned up: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254050/LA-police-collect-ROCKET-LAUNCHERS-buyback-program-prompted-Sandy-Hook-shooting.html



I think those two pictures are classed as porn in some parts of the US.

[NS1]

How frightened of one's own country and countrymen does one have to be to even think about carrying a gun on one's lap?

Yes I know, but folks over the pond automatically believe all of us on this side of the pond who drive
trucks are gun toting hillbillies  So it is standard equipment. Not to disappoint them,
let them believe we all have them or are getting them shortly 

It's not fear, it's part of our culture. Everyone i know has them, me included, no one ever made anything stupid. One culture can't be judged by other culture's measures (same with Americans and "democracy", seems they have problems understanding we don't want their model and are ok with our own )

p.s. as per "hilbillies"... come over, bro, try calling my cousins mountain Marko or Petar... 

I was being sarcastic for our tree hugging, nanny state bunch

[NS1]

No US government will ever take your fetish objects away because they know that each and every gun reminds it's owner and those who become the victims of their use  that it is the US citizen's role to be scared and that the government's job is to protect you from the nasty,  nasty world.

After Sandy Hook they started a buy back in some places:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250233/Sandy-Hook-shooting-Buyback-program-Camden-New-Jersey-collects-record-number-guns.html



And in SF: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/12/12/3-largest-bay-area-cities-to-hold-gun-buyback-drives-during-sandy-hook-2-year-anniversary/

San Jose: http://kron4.com/2014/12/13/gun-buyback-happening-in-san-jose-to-mark-2-year-anniversary-of-sandy-hook/

And in LA, two rocket launchers turned up: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254050/LA-police-collect-ROCKET-LAUNCHERS-buyback-program-prompted-Sandy-Hook-shooting.html



I think those two pictures are classed as porn in some parts of the US.

Ya and after the Government auction, they will end up in used store, being re-sold

[Volshe]

How frightened of one's own country and countrymen does one have to be to even think about carrying a gun on one's lap?

Yes I know, but folks over the pond automatically believe all of us on this side of the pond who drive
trucks are gun toting hillbillies  So it is standard equipment. Not to disappoint them,
let them believe we all have them or are getting them shortly 

It's not fear, it's part of our culture. Everyone i know has them, me included, no one ever made anything stupid. One culture can't be judged by other culture's measures (same with Americans and "democracy", seems they have problems understanding we don't want their model and are ok with our own )

p.s. as per "hilbillies"... come over, bro, try calling my cousins mountain Marko or Petar... 

I was being sarcastic for our tree hugging, nanny state bunch

Lol 

Well, i take good care of my trees, water them and all, but when it comes to guns - i don't need anyone's permission (except by our legislation) to carry mine, nor do i care what somebody from another, unrelated to mine culture thinks about it They can stay at home, fight their wars online via keyboards, but we live in the real world over here 

[NS1]

How frightened of one's own country and countrymen does one have to be to even think about carrying a gun on one's lap?

Yes I know, but folks over the pond automatically believe all of us on this side of the pond who drive
trucks are gun toting hillbillies  So it is standard equipment. Not to disappoint them,
let them believe we all have them or are getting them shortly 

It's not fear, it's part of our culture. Everyone i know has them, me included, no one ever made anything stupid. One culture can't be judged by other culture's measures (same with Americans and "democracy", seems they have problems understanding we don't want their model and are ok with our own )

p.s. as per "hilbillies"... come over, bro, try calling my cousins mountain Marko or Petar... 

I was being sarcastic for our tree hugging, nanny state bunch

Lol 

Well, i take good care of my trees, water them and all, but when it comes to guns - i don't need anyone's permission (except by our legislation) to carry mine, nor do i care what somebody from another, unrelated to mine culture thinks about it They can stay at home, fight their wars online via keyboards, but we live in the real world over here 

I agree, these are the people who want and need people to protect the at all stages in their life.
Which is fine, but they also want the rest of the world to agree with them and are upset when it doesn't happen.

I say each to their own, don't like it, go somewhere it does not affect you.

[Volshe]

I agree, these are the people who want and need people to protect the at all stages in their life.
Which is fine, but they also want the rest of the world to agree with them and are upset when it doesn't happen.

I say each to their own, don't like it, go somewhere it does not affect you.

Exactly OR, alternatively, they can come over and try explaining in real life their opinions and takes... Like, what's the objection exactly against highlanders and why they should give up on centuries of their heritage and go hug trees instead (Of course, in Monte they would end up in psychiatric hospital if actually seen hugging trees  )

[sashathecat]

As far as your racist remarks about "Unless the oath was in Spanish. Or Chinese, Urdu or a myriad of other tongues."  Manny fact is Latin Americans take the oath and learn English and serve for 6 years in various branches of the US Military just for a shot at earning US Citizenship -

 

A large percentage of our military is of Latin descent and has been for a long time now. Many USAians of Latin descent are the strongest US supporters, strongly believe in owning firearms, and will be the first to stand up. They are also some of the best soldiers we have serving our country.

In regards to the 25 million, it would probably never even come to that. We just need to send in the 100,000 armed gang members from the South side of Chicago. 

[B.B.]

I don't need to carry a gun every day. But I do not live a scared life and I do not live in the "land of the free". 

Tell us about Rotherham.  That wouldn't happen here.  First, our police aren't a bunch of pussies who failed to prevent 1400+ girls from being raped over 16 years by a bunch or Urdu-speakers b/c they're afraid someone would call them "RAYCISS!"

Second, if the police somehow did get the British "I like getting hammered in the ass by Sand People" disease, then the fathers would have acted. 

B/B

[B.B.]

...while your 1,200+ mosques full of radical islamists piss all over the basket of rights you hand over to them with no concept that these rights should be earned.  Not only has the rabid liberalism and multiculturalism of the past 50 years severely weakened the UK you are now being actively undermined by an army of native born ISIS sympaticos.

You lot should pray on bended knee to God Almighty every night for a powerful and prosperous USA maintaining a special relationship with your Crown, Parliament, Queen and Country.

DOWN GOES FRAZIER!! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!!

 

B/B

[Dogsoldier]

How frightened of one's own country and countrymen does one have to be to even think about carrying a gun on one's lap?

Yes I know, but folks over the pond automatically believe all of us on this side of the pond who drive
trucks are gun toting hillbillies  So it is standard equipment. Not to disappoint them,
let them believe we all have them or are getting them shortly 

It's not fear, it's part of our culture. Everyone i know has them, me included, no one ever made anything stupid. One culture can't be judged by other culture's measures (same with Americans and "democracy", seems they have problems understanding we don't want their model and are ok with our own )

p.s. as per "hilbillies"... come over, bro, try calling my cousins mountain Marko or Petar... 

I was being sarcastic for our tree hugging, nanny state bunch

Lol 

Well, i take good care of my trees, water them and all, but when it comes to guns - i don't need anyone's permission (except by our legislation) to carry mine, nor do i care what somebody from another, unrelated to mine culture thinks about it They can stay at home, fight their wars online via keyboards, but we live in the real world over here 

I like it.

[B.B.]

It's not fear, it's part of our culture. Everyone i know has them, me included, no one ever made anything stupid.

Volshe, kisonka, this is the disease of the Western Liberal.  They themselves are scared little bunny rabbits and they project that fear onto everyone else.  And they're terrified of Actual Men with Actual Guns, regardless of whether those guns are used for good or for ill, thus they try to shame us into giving them up. 

Once one comes to grips with one's own mortality, there is no longer any need to be afraid.  Put another way, "With the end of the fear of death begins the death of fear."

B/B

[d672]

You lot should pray on bended knee to God Almighty every night for a powerful and prosperous USA maintaining a special relationship with your Crown, Parliament, Queen and Country.

Of course you now being a rabid rancorous Russophile you would most likely choke on any such prayers.

   

[d672]

I don't need to carry a gun every day. But I do not live a scared life and I do not live in the "land of the free". 

Tell us about Rotherham.  That wouldn't happen here.  First, our police aren't a bunch of pussies who failed to prevent 1400+ girls from being raped over 16 years by a bunch or Urdu-speakers b/c they're afraid someone would call them "RAYCISS!"

Second, if the police somehow did get the British "I like getting hammered in the ass by Sand People" disease, then the fathers would have acted. 

B/B

 

It's not fear, it's part of our culture. Everyone i know has them, me included, no one ever made anything stupid.

Volshe, kisonka, this is the disease of the Western Liberal.  They themselves are scared little bunny rabbits and they project that fear onto everyone else.  And they're terrified of Actual Men with Actual Guns, regardless of whether those guns are used for good or for ill, thus they try to shame us into giving them up. 

Once one comes to grips with one's own mortality, there is no longer any need to be afraid.  Put another way, "With the end of the fear of death begins the death of fear."

B/B

 You're firing on all cylinders today BB!   

[Larry]

I don't need to carry a gun every day. But I do not live a scared life and I do not live in the "land of the free". 

Tell us about Rotherham.  That wouldn't happen here.  First, our police aren't a bunch of pussies who failed to prevent 1400+ girls from being raped over 16 years by a bunch or Urdu-speakers b/c they're afraid someone would call them "RAYCISS!"

Second, if the police somehow did get the British "I like getting hammered in the ass by Sand People" disease, then the fathers would have acted. 

B/B

 

It's not fear, it's part of our culture. Everyone i know has them, me included, no one ever made anything stupid.

Volshe, kisonka, this is the disease of the Western Liberal.  They themselves are scared little bunny rabbits and they project that fear onto everyone else.  And they're terrified of Actual Men with Actual Guns, regardless of whether those guns are used for good or for ill, thus they try to shame us into giving them up. 

Once one comes to grips with one's own mortality, there is no longer any need to be afraid.  Put another way, "With the end of the fear of death begins the death of fear."

B/B

 You're firing on all cylinders today BB!   

Absolutely 

[Maxx]

I would choose my 1943 'American Fork and Hoe' bayonet and not my M1 Garand?

1980 girl would be a better choice. 

I married a 1968 girl 13 years ago and I still wasn't safe.   

[GuppyCaptain]

You carry guns in order to allay your fears about the people around you. If you are rational humans then you'd not carry weapons or pay the money to buy them for no reason.

I don't need to carry a gun every day. But I do not live a scared life and I do not live in the "land of the free". 

Yes, well us "lot" that chose to own firearms for personal protection call that having your head in the sand. Good thing you don't live here. I get the sense that you're still a little upset about the series of skirmishes between our countries several hundred years ago. Something's going on anyway. There has to be an explanation for your hate of anything American and Americans in general.

[Volshe]

I like it.

 

Volshe, kisonka,

mishka, 

 

They themselves are scared little bunny rabbits and they project that fear onto everyone else.  And they're terrified of Actual Men with Actual Guns, regardless of whether those guns are used for good or for ill, thus they try to shame us into giving them up. 

Yep, it's called " the grasshopper mentality" ...

 (When 12 "spies" were sent on a mission and return with ugly info: the land is beautiful, wonderful vegetation. delicious fruit... yada-yada. But the people we saw, they were huge,  giants.  They would crush us in a second... And if they saw us, they would think we were like grasshoppers in comparison. No way we could conquer that land. Just forget about the whole thing.

"There we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, descended from the giants. In our eyes, we seemed like grasshoppers, and so we were in their eyes." (Shelach 13:33)

I am not a grasshopper, i am a free person and there are no giants

Absolutely 

 

[Maxx]

Except for some ranch trucks in Wyoming or Montana out in the middle of nowhere nobody drives around with a gun rack and guns. People would break into the trucks to steal them. Now you might put up a beat-up low-cost rifle behind the seat in certain States, a 'truck gun'. In other States guns need to be in a case and placed where you can't easily get to them. In Texas we can have them, except for pistols, sitting on our laps or on the seat next to us. It depends on which State you are in.

How frightened of one's own country and countrymen does one have to be to even think about carrying a gun on one's lap?

Funny I noticed my fully loaded arsenal is on the other side of the door from where I sleep. I am so unworried about my protection I have my guns at easy reach for an intruder who enters my bedroom.

The warmongers in this country usually strongly dislike libertarians like myself. Manny and Andrew are right about America always stirring up trouble for them all over the world. I part ways with many of Cufflink's opinions.

[Maxx]

You carry guns in order to allay your fears about the people around you. If you are rational humans then you'd not carry weapons or pay the money to buy them for no reason.

I don't need to carry a gun every day. But I do not live a scared life and I do not live in the "land of the free". 

Yes, well us "lot" that chose to own firearms for personal protection call that having your head in the sand. Good thing you don't live here. I get the sense that you're still a little upset about the series of skirmishes between our countries several hundred years ago. Something's going on anyway. There has to be an explanation for your hate of anything American and Americans in general.

I don't think they hate us, they just want to feel superior and that's OK. I mean like "who cares?"

[B.B.]

"There we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, descended from the giants. In our eyes, we seemed like grasshoppers, and so we were in their eyes." (Shelach 13:33)

You've got their Numbers (pun intended).

I am not a grasshopper, i am a free person and there are no giants

Exactly.  As I am fond of saying in a different context, I don't worry about other men.  Let other men worry about me.

B/B