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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2016, 06:38:48 PM »
Don't shoot the messenger, links to articles posted, don't necessarily reflect my personal opinion.

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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2019, 10:00:44 AM »
https://thelondonwinecellar.com/wine-valuation

Bloody Brilliant Brit Business Model - Advertise with Nigel's talk show on LBC - using financial CoL type terminology treating your Wine Cellar like a Business - would be curious what FSU wines might be in demand and comparable to their most desired French and Italian varietals?

They will appraise, sell and rebalance your wine cellar portfolios.  Brilliant service and way to discreetly discover who might have some great hidden vintages in their cellars anything from a bottle to a case and of course they get the first crack at selling you new investable vintages.  Might even qualify for tax-deferred exchanges in the USA.

Could turn this into a nice little drop shipping type business and visit wineries and buy several favorite cases and resell to wholesalers or direct to consumers on-line - all as a legitimate business for tax deduction purposes.

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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #52 on: June 11, 2019, 11:16:42 AM »
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The Best Wineries to Visit in Ukraine

(Kool interactive map feature changes with content about the wineries you are reading) ...

https://theculturetrip.com/europe/ukraine/articles/the-best-wineries-to-visit-in-ukraine/

Ukraine’s unique climate allows for the production of wine in almost every region of the country; however, the western and southern regions are the utmost leaders. There are wineries with histories that go back to the nineteenth century juxtaposed with new private producers trying to conquer the market. Thus, despite their slow growth, the wineries here have such charm and quality that they are certainly worth discovering.

E.G.: Kolonist is located in the most favourable region of wine production in Ukraine – the very southern point of Ukraine, on the border with Moldova. Here they grow the best European varieties of chardonnay, Cabernet and Merlot. The key to Kolonist’s success is that its vineyards share the same latitude as the French Bordeaux region and the Italian Piedmont region. The venue hosts the annual festival of Young Wine (Molodoho Wyna in Ukrainian) during the harvest season from mid-August to late-September. You’ll find two tasting halls with live music and a fireplace that is lit year round.

And in Russia Near Crimean new bridge - huge facility 2500 Hectares...

http://en.fanagoria.ru/   Nice Web Site in Russian and Ruglish...

Fanagoria Estate Winery

Would be a fascinating stop on the new Rail Route to Crimea...

High Quality Is Our Everlasting Priority

Our corporate slogan Noblesse oblige, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, "suggests noble ancestry constrains to honorable behavior; privilege entails to responsibility." It implies that with wealth, power and prestige come responsibilities. We consider that this phrase really do reflect our mission. The first grape vine in the Taman Peninsula is believed to have been planted by the ancient Greeks. Fanagoria Estate Winery, named after the Greek polis of Phanagoria, considers itself the successor to the traditions of the ancient Greeks who were known to be skilful winegrowers. The phrase also refers to our current position as Russia's wine capital, for the Taman Peninsula nowadays provides for over a half of the national yield of the grapes. The nobility of being the leader of the national wine market obliges us by many responsibilities, like exemplary viticulture and constant perfection of the wines' quality standards. Fanagoria Estate Winery's corporate history also obliges a lot. Its story began in 1957, and since then it has been rich in numerous achievements proving our strong position at the top of the Russian wine market.

Fanagoria's still, sparkling wines, brandies and bitter liqueur have over the years gained 7 grand prix and over 200 medals at international and national wine tasting competitions.

Wine, an art in the goblet

Wine, the salt of the Earth, a noble, unique and very interesting beverage... What joy it is to understand it, and what a pleasure to make it! Winemaking is an ancient craft. To make decent wine, one has to respect nature, love the earth and the sun, and value every grape cluster. This is how we feel the winemaking art. We are encouraging our people to comprehend their personal involvement in the process of rebirth of Russian winemaking.

Wine is a live product. We have a strong belief that its quality reflects everything, even such subtle nuances as the winemaker's mood and ambience. That is why in our cellars classical pieces by great russian composers are played. It really helps us craft the wines equally appreciated by the wine enthusiasts and the world's leading wine critics.

Vine is the staff of life

The area of Fanagoria vineyards exceeds 2,500 hectares. It is our vineyards that are the main guarantee of the quality of our wines, for the wine in fact starts with the plant, at the nursery. Fanagoria encompasses the whole production cycle: from production of rootstock and grafts to the manufacture and distribution of bottled wines. Our brand portfolio consists of premium oaked wines, dry varietals, medium sweet and fortified wines, sparkling wines, brandies and bitter liqueurs. Our wines have been highly esteemed by the world's leading wine experts, including Jancis Robinson and Robert Joseph who recently visited Fanagoria. Some of the Fanagoria wines are really unique. For instance, only Fanagoria crafts 4 varietal brands of ice wine: the white Riesling, Sauvignon Blanc, Muscat and the red Saperavi (the latter being a rarity elsewhere). Cabernet Sauvignon Cru Lermont, our most titled wine, recently got a new distinction: this was the first Russian wine to bear the «Kuban Wines Are a Pride of Russia» logo.

For the last five years, over 1 billion rubles have been invested in viticulture and winemaking! We have increased the acreage of vineyards and modernized the winemaking equipment and technologies.

The annual fanagoria art prize is presented in the following three rewards: grand prix, the young talent, and the viewers' choice. In 2010, each nomination had 2 winners, plus two encouraging prizes. The total prize money equaled to 320,000 rubles (us $ 10,800).

In 2010, 62 artists from Krasnodar and other South Russian cities took part in the competition. Their works were shown at two exhibitions - at Kovalenko Arts Museum in Krasnodar, and at the writer Ostrovsky's Literary Museum in Sochi. The judge panel for the contest included popular artists and public figures. Since its launch, the project has been considered a continuous process of promotion of contemporary arts. In 2011, the project is to be extended to the national level. The art gallery opened in the Company's head office will also exhibit the works by the Fanagoria Art winners.

The curriculum includes theoretical seminars in winemaking history, grape varieties, wine diseases, wine classifications and styles. The students learn how to 'read' the labels, assimilate the rules and terms used in tastings. This knowledge will let them fully enjoy the wine bouquet, distinguishing its minute nuances and tones, rather than simply drink the wine.

The course consists of 4 lessons. The first is devoted to winemaking history and technology, grape varieties and wine diversity. The students learn of food and wine matches, how a goblet may affect wine perception. They are introduced to the notion of terroir and learn to taste. The second lesson deals with European traditions of winemaking. The third lesson is devoted to New World winemaking. The last lesson takes up Russian and Soviet winemaking; the CIS winemaking regions, particularly, Kuban; aboriginal (heritage, local) varieties in Russia and the Caucasus, and Fanagoria winemaking.

Our trainers are skilful sommeliers with extensive practical experience. Upon completion, the students get a Graduation Diploma.

 


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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2019, 11:35:15 AM »
A Wineries Tour of Crimea would be interesting with a Russian Speaking Female Companion...

Wineries & Vineyards in Crimea  - Curious how most are along the Southern Coast - would assume some might be inland as well.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g313972-Activities-c36-t132-Crimea.html

Map of above Winerie's locations:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g313972-Activities-c36-t132-Crimea.html#MAPVIEW

5 Star Reviews:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g295378-d1438787-Reviews-Villa_Elena_Hotel_Residences-Yalta.html
Boasts vast selection of Crimean Wines...

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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #54 on: June 12, 2019, 08:38:26 AM »
These lists were taken from the TripAdvisor website that allows folks to participate forum style and post reviews from places they personally visited and includes photos so this is first-hand Things to Do information about the actual locations visited like this very interesting place in Odessa

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g295368-d6023952-Reviews-Shustov_Cognac_Winery_Museum-Odessa_Odessa_Oblast.html

The lists I found above were top 10 Ukraine Wineries, Top Ten Crimea Wineries and one huge Russian firm with a fabulous looking website that actually entices one to visit when the Sochi to Simferopol trains are running sooner than later.

Perhaps we might refocus your mind on the Question at had and we will go through it Step by Step...

Nigel's sponsor has a Wines we Buy section - one could reasonably surmise these varietals are the most in demand and therefore a Wine Merchant could expect a profit trading yes actually buying then selling the listed wines...   https://thelondonwinecellar.com/wines-we-buy 

WHICH WINES DO WE BUY?
At The London Wine Cellar we are seriously passionate about wine and always keen to value your collection. We buy wine from grape-growing regions all over the world, from France to the United States, and purchase a multitude of different vintages. What’s more, as a dynamic merchant with fantastic logistics partners, we are just as keen to purchase a single £100 bottle of champagne as to value and accrue an entire cellar brimming with cases.

Currently we are particularly interested in purchasing the wines listed on this page, including Bordeaux, Burgundy, Champagne, Barbaresco, Brunello, Barolo and United States wines. However, please don’t hesitate to get in touch if you can’t see your specific bottle or bottles — a member of our team will be happy to let you know if yours is a variety we can help you with.

This is their Money List:  https://thelondonwinecellar.com/wines-we-buy 

Therefore the main question was:

Would be curious what FSU wines might be in demand and comparable to their most desired French and Italian varietals?

The idea is to do side by side comparisons of like or similar Varietals from France and Italy on the one hand and UA, Crimean, RU and Georgia on the other hand and create useful new knowledge that can be monetized via both the traditional merchant route and online content routes.

I walked through the New Hampshire State Owned (Even we have bloody Communists in the Live Free or Die State) Liquor store giant Wine Section yesterday and we hade all of the California Wines - a local New Hampshire section with everything from Apple and Berries (Blue-Razz-Strawberries) Meads and various white and red Grape Varieties  France German Italian New Zealand, South African, Australian and standard worldwide wines however Zero FSU wines no Bulgarian, No Romanian, No Ukranian/Russian/Crimean nor Georgian wines.

As the FSU wines are priced for the FSU markets they are considered bargains in comparison to established EU Wines Brands/Varieties.   Doing taste testing comparisons to the https://thelondonwinecellar.com/wines-we-buy 
Money List could actually be monetizable content...



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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #55 on: June 12, 2019, 08:45:06 AM »
Save your money Cufflinks take a wine tour of Germany, France or Italy instead!

The reason those vineyards in Crimea are good is because they were planted by ethnic Germans. Take a guess at what happened to them?

So if you want really good wine go to the source. Not only that but there’s more to see and do in the country’s I listed.

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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #56 on: June 12, 2019, 08:53:49 AM »
Save your money Cufflinks take a wine tour of France or Italy instead!

Not to put too fine a point on it the knowledge of the top 10 best wineries in UA RU Crimea and Georgia is to have interesting places to visit with beautiful local Blonde haired Blue Eyed, Auburn Haired Green Eyed and Dark Haired Sapphire eyed sensual FSU Women - as in Wine Women Meals and Song...  and make a few bucks along the ways.

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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #57 on: June 12, 2019, 09:20:20 AM »
Save your money Cufflinks take a wine tour of France or Italy instead!

Not to put too fine a point on it the knowledge of the top 10 best wineries in UA RU Crimea and Georgia is to have interesting places to visit with beautiful local Blonde haired Blue Eyed, Auburn Haired Green Eyed and Dark Haired Sapphire eyed sensual FSU Women - as in Wine Women Meals and Song...  and make a few bucks along the ways.

Yes okay but that’s the wrong place IMO. I’ve actually been there.

Suggest you to read some of the trip advisor reviews about Crimea which you posted.

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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2019, 09:25:31 AM »
Interesting FSU Georgia Wineries... and Tours:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g294195-d15850988-Reviews-Trails_and_Wines-Tbilisi.html

Search Things to do matching "wineries and vineyards" in Georgia, Europe.  A large list of Wineries and Tours - a prominent region appears to be Kakheti Region, Georgia.

Chelti Winery
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Shilda, Kvareli, Kakheti Region, Georgia
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g7385745-d12683439-Reviews-Chelti_Winery-Shilda_Kvareli_Kakheti_Region.html

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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #59 on: June 12, 2019, 09:44:16 AM »
Save your money Cufflinks take a wine tour of France or Italy instead!

Not to put too fine a point on it the knowledge of the top 10 best wineries in UA RU Crimea and Georgia is to have interesting places to visit with beautiful local Blonde haired Blue Eyed, Auburn Haired Green Eyed and Dark Haired Sapphire eyed sensual FSU Women - as in Wine Women Meals and Song...  and make a few bucks along the ways.

Yes okay but that’s the wrong place IMO. I’ve actually been there.

Suggest you to read some of the trip advisor reviews about Crimea which you posted.

LOL My Scope is rather larger than just Crimea and my focus is on the quality of the Wines, Women and Food and the purpose to enjoy a beautiful mistress, wife, PA, Travel Partner all in one...  Markje seems to believe Crimea has become much better since its realignment with Mother Russia.

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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #60 on: August 24, 2023, 11:40:29 AM »
Mendy has already gone into a lot of detail as well about Georgian wine but there are also some very good wine producing regions on the other side of the Caucasus mountains as well.

On the Russian side of the border there are the regions of Stavropol, Krasnodar and Dagestan.  I believe there is something around 70,000 hectares of vines in this area - about the same as the Bordeaux region in France.

Speaking of Krasnodar (said he, casually resurrecting the topic using an 11-year-old quote), wifey got home last night from visiting her folks, and one of her pals sent me a nice bottle of wine (and some Kazakh chocolate and Russian sweets).



This is a Sauvignon Blanc (white) from Krasnodar.



Russia isn't really a place on many people's radar when it comes to wine. I expect sanctions stop much of it being sold in the West.



I gather this is quite expensive in Russia, and having just opened it, I can testify it is indeed rather nice.  :BEER:

Wifey was on some red from Crimea while she was there too, and that got a big thumbs up too apparently. None of that made it back though (hic!)  :chuckle:
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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2023, 12:37:07 PM »

Wifey was on some red from Crimea while she was there too, and that got a big thumbs up too apparently. None of that made it back though (hic!)  :chuckle:
Crimea has an excellent climate for wining. They have 2 major factories producing very good wine.

I always go for Massandra cause its quality stuff.

(Inkermann being the other winery, also good but I think Massandra is better).
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Re: FSU Wines and Spirits
« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2023, 06:18:45 AM »
Mendy has already gone into a lot of detail as well about Georgian wine but there are also some very good wine producing regions on the other side of the Caucasus mountains as well.

On the Russian side of the border there are the regions of Stavropol, Krasnodar and Dagestan.  I believe there is something around 70,000 hectares of vines in this area - about the same as the Bordeaux region in France.

Speaking of Krasnodar (said he, casually resurrecting the topic using an 11-year-old quote), wifey got home last night from visiting her folks, and one of her pals sent me a nice bottle of wine (and some Kazakh chocolate and Russian sweets).

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This is a Sauvignon Blanc (white) from Krasnodar.

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Russia isn't really a place on many people's radar when it comes to wine. I expect sanctions stop much of it being sold in the West.

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I gather this is quite expensive in Russia, and having just opened it, I can testify it is indeed rather nice.  :BEER:

Wifey was on some red from Crimea while she was there too, and that got a big thumbs up too apparently. None of that made it back though (hic!)  :chuckle:

Is that a best before April 2021 stamp?  :chuckle: