The Russian Bride Business is Dead! The Report: Death of the Russian Bride

[Bruno]

Bruno who hasn't posted in three and a half years!

Welcome back Bruno!   

Not really back... i have begin read these topic because one of your reply on youtube who invite to do so...

I am not more in the business of Russian bride, not more married to Russian Bride, not more seeking Russian bride... i have give up... now, i simply date without border limit...

Have made one post in 2010, these post is from 2011 ( happy new year )... next one will be in 2012 

[cufflinks]

Read the report - outside of some formatting readability critique - I am open minded as I have no dog in the hunt and no axe to grind - always interested in novel marketing ideas etc... will be interested to see the follow up work(s)...

Curious that similar rationale for controls on behavior now emanating from the British Conservatives:

UK Government wants ISPs to block porn:

http://my.opera.com/portalnews/blog/2010/12/20/uk-government-wants-isps-to-block-porn

In another chapter in the saga of Internet censorship, British ministers are encouraging ISPs to block sexual content by default. Is this a good thing?

Ministers in the Conservative British government are suggesting that future legislation could require all major ISPs in the UK to block porn and sexual content on the website by default. This move is intended to stem the "sexualization of children" as, of course, it is becoming exceedingly difficult to shelter children from this sort of content when they are using the Web.

I think that it would be great to have an option of being able to block sex websites at the ISP level if you have children at home and are concerned about the corruption that could be committed by nonstop stream of nakedness. On the other hand, I also feel that the politicians could be taking things too far with this one.
 
Ed Vaizey, communications minister for Britain is a proponent of limiting access to pornography.

Frankly, I suspect that the majority of internet users probably willingly look at something that could be construed as being "pornographic" from time to time, and yet this is probably not something that everyone wants to openly admit to.

It might be the slightest bit embarrassing for one to have to phone up their ISP and say: "I say, old chap -- I fancy a gander at some knockers right about now. If you could be so kind and switch on the tantilizing titillation, that would be right smashing! Jolly good. Cheerio!"

Aside from the unpleasantness of this scenario, there's also the uncomfortable situation of your ISP having a list of all of the 'perverted weirdos' who opted in to watch porn - and this sounds like a step back for freedom.

It seems like a much more plausible scenario to allow parents or the prudish to specifically opt in for content blocking - for instance, when setting up their Internet accounts. I can foresee the draconian measure of blocking all porn by default as causing a lot of aggravating problems for many users. What if the method which which content is blocked is overly aggressive? Given the uncontrolled and interlinked nature of the Internet, it's pretty likely that just about any page you could be on is only a few of links away from blocked content, and you will run into "403" errors or such that your ISP has thoughtfully provided for you.

Implementing these sorts of restrictions on the Web seems to counter the very nature of what it was supposed to be - an open and free way for people to access information. For that reason, I'm not a fan of these restrictions. On the other hand, 'protecting the children' is a noble enough goal, but with today's prevalence of sexuality in all forms of media, and the virtually ubiquitous access people have to the Web from anywhere, would this sort of measure even make any real difference?

It is probably more practical for parents to use the parental controls in their operating system and search engines to achieve similar result without having to incur a potential burden on taxpayers or fellow Internet subscribers. (These things do cost money, you know).

[fireeater]

Of course not but the degree to which economics is NOT a part of the process is probably a reflection of the depth of colour in your rose coloured spectacles.

AND

As many women will tell you, they can marry a poor guy in their home town.

Since you seem to not be able to read you should note I said it was not the ONLY reason.  There are no rose coloured glasses on here I am just not the pessimist you are.  I have heard many other reasons to look outside Russia...instability, corruption, social inequality.  Reasons to look at a western man...perceived as better family men, different culture that values woman more.  And yes...economics can come into the equation as well but they are not the singular cause.

I will have to agree with Froid. There are many other factors why someone would choose to leave their homeland. Some he listed are valid reasons, yet at the same time not all fall under economics. Since I know a few women who have chosen the reason he did not list, love, it is
a main factor for some who gave up what they have already for who they have met. Economically they had no reason to want to move.   

Now another illustration would be a Russian couple who for five years spent an equal amount of time, in Moscow and Toronto. Upon their divorce she decided that Toronto would be her home. None of the reasons she gave freely, mentioned anything to do with economics. She would have had that choice to stay in Moscow if she wished to. Her ex stayed in Moscow, her adult son also decided on Toronto as well, and is a journalist here.

If the agency side dies, it will not stop people from communicating, meeting and making it happen. There are far too many other ways of contacting and finding each other, either locally or in another country. You do not need a business to do it. So who cares other then the owners if they die out.       

[Donhollio]

 Some here feel that Mr.fi is out to bleed a buck from those who sign up on his site, and read his report. 18 pages of content is lots to swallow, and it begs the curiosity as to why he'd even bother to make such a detailed account of American's looking for foreign wives. I guess you could also include American females in that, along with gay and lesbian relationships as well.
 My pursuit had problems with Europeans getting to the girl first, not American's. The last agency I used was in Rostov, and the majority of clients were western Europeans.
 American's are not jumping on planes like they once did, their economy is currently unstable, and it has changed in how they spend their money.

 I'm a Canadian so this report is completely irrelevant to me, however to satisfy others who question his motive in doing all this work, I'll ask Mr.fi some easy a read question, and wait for his reply.

   Once some time has passed and those who have read your report, will they be asked to enroll in something that will require them to give their money away at a later date?  We all here know that your doing for money, that's fair. But we all know that if the another forum inner circle did this, the RUA 3 amigos would be all over them sticking to it like bile on a blanket.
 
 I think the boys here just want some clarity, fairly simple.

[Muzh_1]

MUZH,
 If you look it up NAZI, is short for National socialist party.
 So yes one can and do have both.
 But please don't take my word for it, look it up.

Boy, you sure know your history, don't you?

But I agree with you this is 

[Manny]

But we all know that if the another forum inner circle did this, the RUA 3 amigos would be all over them sticking to it like bile on a blanket.

It may surprise you to learn, another forum will be carrying ads for the report also. The only reason they are not right now is that Dan is out of town and delayed by snow somewhere I gather.

[Bruno]

UK Government wants ISPs to block porn:

It is probably more practical for parents to use the parental controls in their operating system and search engines to achieve similar result without having to incur a potential burden on taxpayers or fellow Internet subscribers. (These things do cost money, you know).

Funny article post not really related to the topic...

If UK Gov ask ISP to block porn OR/AND parent block porn in their own computer... it remain one parameter that everybody forget... Kids are far to be stupid...

When related to computer knowledge, the usual rule is that kids are more educated that their own parents... several of these kids know how use foreign proxy for reach blocked site...

Same thing with these IMBRA and other thing... agency AND customer will find a way to go around them...

If the agency side dies, it will not stop people from communicating, meeting and making it happen. There are far too many other ways of contacting and finding each other, either locally or in another country. You do not need a business to do it. So who cares other then the owners if they die out.

Well, more and more agency don't make their money from the girls catalogue but more from the side service : translation, organization of trip/stay, admin help for visa, gift/flower for girlfriend, and more...

Very long time ago, i have be two time owner of a marriage site related to FSU ladies... contact pages was nothing more that advert like in newspaper... free newspaper... was making between 2000 - 5000 $ month for only a few hours work by day... money was earn via services owned by others... by example, i was earning 15% if someone was buying his delta airline ticket via my site...

Point  is that the business will never die... yes, agency who don't adapt will maybe die... but it is true for any business... year after year, the world evolve and business adapt to the new conditions...

There is some true in the Andrew PDF text but it is wrote like a "end of the world" text from a "doom sayer"... it is now 20 year that people say that it is the end of the russian bride business... well, in 20 year, thing have change... sometime in a good way, sometime in a bad way... but it is not yet dead... and i don't think that it will die in 2011...

[dbneeley]

But we all know that if the another forum inner circle did this, the RUA 3 amigos would be all over them sticking to it like bile on a blanket.

It may surprise you to learn, another forum will be carrying ads for the report also. The only reason they are not right now is that Dan is out of town and delayed by snow somewhere I gather.

Now, Manny--run it by us one more time as to why Andrew is not now classed as a "commercial member" if he's running ads and offering cash to people for referring others to register with his site--with the "free" report being the draw for folks to register there.

Please remember--I am not at all adverse to his making money online, far from it. I only think that honesty is the best policy, and everyone should acknowledge that his motivation is far from philanthropic in all this.

Sorry, but in my opinion and that of various others he should be subject to the same rules as everyone else.

David

[TomT]

I am not more in the business of Russian bride, not more married to Russian Bride, not more seeking Russian bride... i have give up... now, i simply date without border limit...

Perhaps you might consider giving us a brief update on another thread. RW aren't all fluffy kittens, are they?

[Manny]

But we all know that if the another forum inner circle did this, the RUA 3 amigos would be all over them sticking to it like bile on a blanket.

It may surprise you to learn, another forum will be carrying ads for the report also. The only reason they are not right now is that Dan is out of town and delayed by snow somewhere I gather.

Now, Manny--run it by us one more time as to why Andrew is not now classed as a "commercial member" if he's running ads and offering cash to people for referring others to register with his site--with the "free" report being the draw for folks to register there.

Please remember--I am not at all adverse to his making money online, far from it. I only think that honesty is the best policy, and everyone should acknowledge that his motivation is far from philanthropic in all this.

Sorry, but in my opinion and that of various others he should be subject to the same rules as everyone else.

David

I didn't put him as commercial member as he isn't charging for anything - he is giving it away! There is no transaction. However, as y'all want to use it as a stick to beat me with, I'll tag him as a commercial member just to keep y'all happy.

Just goes to show, some folks aren't even happy when you give stuff away! 

[Paul]

Since when has RUA been a democracy? ...

I don't remember paying anyone to be a member here.

[andrewfi]

Since when has RUA been a democracy? ...

It aint a democracy!

Don, I have no plans to hypnotise you and make you give me money! My information requirement was explained elsewhere and I have a clearly stated policy in regard to your email address.

If you are so scared of what the innerneds can make you do are you safe to use the internet on your computer?

More constructively, if you want to cause me some grief then attack my bank account - help me spread the word, see if you can hurt me.

Even more constructively:
Let us talk about the issues facing the international marriage bureau biz.
Let us talk about the things we agree on, the things we don't agree on and maybe share some new insights.

Do not for one second imagine that not being American makes you in some way immune to the processes now in play.
You are not.
The same memes that are becoming powerful in the USA exist in other places too.

[Donhollio]

Don, I have no plans to hypnotise you and make you give me money! My information requirement was explained elsewhere and I have a clearly stated policy in regard to your email address.

 Thank you for answering, it was most welcoming. Now I just hope you have understood the question. 

If you are so scared of what the innerneds can make you do are you safe to use the internet on your computer?

 My ignorance of the PC is bliss... so I've been told. 

More constructively, if you want to cause me some grief then attack my bank account - help me spread the word, see if you can hurt me.

  Prehaps you're taking my simple Q a tad far from the crosshairs.

Even more constructively:
Let us talk about the issues facing the international marriage bureau biz.
Let us talk about the things we agree on, the things we don't agree on and maybe share some new insights.

No interest in it at all.   

Do not for one second imagine that not being American makes you in some way immune to the processes now in play.
You are not.
The same memes that are becoming powerful in the USA exist in other places too.

  That I highly doubt. Our immigration MP is currently taking steps to ensure bogus marriages come to an end. Nothing has been said about restricting the movement of Canadian's abroad. The USA is a different animal then Canada. One issue on the table is having a trial period for all sponsored spouses. Eg; if the marriage fails with in a 2 year period, the sponsored person will not get to remain in Canada. Changes to obtaining a PR card are also in the table for change. Now knowing how well they move in Ottawa, I'm gonna hedge that these changes will be announced , but won't be enforced.

 Please excuse my Moby-esk quoted post.  I guess he's enjoying his New Years weekend, and hasn't had the chance to drop by on your topic yet.

[dbneeley]

The USA is a different animal then Canada. One issue on the table is having a trial period for all sponsored spouses. Eg; if the marriage fails with in a 2 year period, the sponsored person will not get to remain in Canada.

Of course Canada is far different from the US.

A two-year trial period certainly sounds different than the two-year conditional resident visa in the U.S. that has been with us for many years, right?   

At the same time, one aspect of the argument is quite true--if U.S. citizens are sufficiently discouraged that their numbers decrease substantially, that will make the introduction agency business so unprofitable that it will indeed drive many to seek other business opportunities. That alone will affect bride seekers no matter where they may be from.

David

[andrewfi]

The USA is a different animal then Canada. One issue on the table is having a trial period for all sponsored spouses. Eg; if the marriage fails with in a 2 year period, the sponsored person will not get to remain in Canada.

Of course Canada is far different from the US.

A two-year trial period certainly sounds different than the two-year conditional resident visa in the U.S. that has been with us for many years, right?   

At the same time, one aspect of the argument is quite true--if U.S. citizens are sufficiently discouraged that their numbers decrease substantially, that will make the introduction agency business so unprofitable that it will indeed drive many to seek other business opportunities. That alone will affect bride seekers no matter where they may be from.

David

Yes. Apart from a basic truth that many memes are shared across national boundaries this is very important. Much of the mail order bride biz from the FSU, Latin America and Asia is financed and run by US interests.
What happens to that client base will affect clients from elsewhere.

In truth it will be easier for many service providers to do as they do now and treat all their paying clients as if they were US based, thus Canadians, Britons, Aussies etc will have to deal with legislative effects to some degree or another.

[sparky114]

Well after reading a little of this thread it leaves me with the feeling we should shut this forum now so we are not the last left in when the light is turned off 

But for all those Americans get over now its your chance to beat the pre-sale rush and end up with the left overs that did not sell 

I feel sorry for our old mate Cuffy he is still saving his money to be in a good and stable position, and nobody has told him someones already shut the shop!!

[dbneeley]

Andrew,

As you yourself pointed out either in this thread or on the other forum's, when someone provides their email account address for downloading your report they are implicitly agreeing to future mail solicitations of yours without them being technically considered to be spam.

I believe this strategy without disclosure in advance of what they may be letting themselves in for is, in this day and age, a tactical mistake.

There are various Internet sources I have deliberately chosen to provide my address to in the full knowledge that they would be using it in precisely this manner--when I believed the information they offered in return was sufficiently valuable. However that was a conscious choice on my part--I never was bothered by its consequences, knowing just what I was letting myself in for.

You have chosen to do no more than hint at your future plans for this information and ignore the concerns of those who wonder about it--or, worse, to denigrate those fears. In my experience, this is a level of apparent contempt for your target demographic.

In fact, failure to disclose often increases the apprehension of many--as you have seen in these threads. Rightly or wrongly, you are lumped in with various other "Internet marketers" who haven't always been particularly savory in their actions.

I would suggest that you reconsider this particular strategy, and think about making a clear statement as to your plans for this data--at least inasmuch as what someone registering may expect to receive in future.

I, for one, have nothing against people making a buck from legitimate online activities--including your own. However, like many others I have been burned in the past and merely seek to understand what I'm getting myself into these days.

While the breathless prose of your marketing activities and the "sky is falling!" approach isn't my style, that does not mean your assertions are groundless. Change in any industry is, after all, part of life that we should all anticipate.

However, so far at least I have not seen how this will negatively impact those who are sincerely seeking a mate abroad. Many of the IMBs around richly deserve to go out of business, in my experience. I completely fail to see how getting rid of the "keyboard romeos" and the totally clueless from this pursuit is a bad thing.

From my perspective,  your arguments should appeal far more to those now in the introduction agency business--which as I have mentioned is my own personal pet theory as to what you are ultimately up to. We can both name various agencies that are often best avoided by newcomers to this search--including the two you have been particularly active in promoting since your recent holiday in Florida.

Those men who are not serious, who are not willing to put in the time and effort to find a very real and suitable match, I submit they are no loss to the rest of men involved in this pursuit.

Furthermore, there is yet another advantage to drastic changes in the industry: as it becomes less profitable, I believe many of the presently-active scammers will move to other means of making money.

At one time, most people who met others internationally and later developed relationships with them, if they did not meet by travel, used "pen pal" resources such as Signal in Finland (still around, by the way). I think the modern social networking sites are merely updated resources of the same variety--and people will continue to meet and become mutually interested through them, just as so many are doing today.

In short, based upon your worst case scenario, I believe it is not necessarily as bad as you make out.

David

[WestCoast]

The USA is a different animal then Canada. One issue on the table is having a trial period for all sponsored spouses. Eg; if the marriage fails with in a 2 year period, the sponsored person will not get to remain in Canada.

Of course Canada is far different from the US.

A two-year trial period certainly sounds different than the two-year conditional resident visa in the U.S. that has been with us for many years, right?   

At the same time, one aspect of the argument is quite true--if U.S. citizens are sufficiently discouraged that their numbers decrease substantially, that will make the introduction agency business so unprofitable that it will indeed drive many to seek other business opportunities. That alone will affect bride seekers no matter where they may be from.

David

Yes. Apart from a basic truth that many memes are shared across national boundaries this is very important. Much of the mail order bride biz from the FSU, Latin America and Asia is financed and run by US interests.
What happens to that client base will affect clients from elsewhere.

In truth it will be easier for many service providers to do as they do now and treat all their paying clients as if they were US based, thus Canadians, Britons, Aussies etc will have to deal with legislative effects to some degree or another.

Andrew now you've had a few too many celebratory New Year's Eve drinks.  What agency American or otherwise would have Canadians, Britons, Aussies etc do the American IMBRA paperwork knowing that the men are exempt?  What happens when one of these men points out to the agency proprietor that as a Brit he is exempt from IMBRA since his future wife will be living in the UK and not the US? What's next Estonian men having to fill out IMBRA paperwork when they marry an ethnic Russian woman in Estonia? 

Andrew I think you should concentrate on selling used cars or fake Viagra over the Internet that's obviously where your marketing expertise lays.   It really will be interesting to see what you're going to try and sell the men in the Russian bride community once your master marketing plan has run its course.  It's all about the 

[andrewfi]

Some people have questioned why it was that I wanted to provide access to my Death of a Russian Bride report only after providing an email address.

Well, here's how it is. Today, only about 72 hours after launching the report, I have just closed down the third infringer who sought to redistribute the report outside of my control, this time from one of the largest forums in this niche.
The problem is not an easy one to deal with.
I want to open a dialogue about some very serious issues that are facing the International Marriage Bureau business, the service providers in both the US and internationally and their clients in any country around the world.

This report is the first part of the document, the next part is in progress right now.

I want to ensure, to the best of my ability, that people get to see the words that I wrote in as transparent a way as possible. The ONLY way to do this is for me to control distribution. When others take it upon themselves to steal my intellectual property I lose control of those words and I have no way to ensure that what is shared and spread is what I actually wrote!

When the next document comes out I want to ensure that those who were interested enough to ask for the first part are able to get the second part as soon as is possible, again the only way to do this is by email.

I make a part of my living from dealing with people across the internet. I take issues of trust and privacy VERY seriously because, in the end, all we have is our reputation, more on the internet than just about anywhere else.

On the signup page for my report the following words appear:

Privacy Notice: Death Of A Russian Bride Has a Zero Tolerance Policy for SPAM, and will only contact you after you have opted in and confirmed your email address verifying that you have requested the information. You may opt out at any time!

Note those words, they are important. If I did not have concerns for the trust and privacy of those who are interested in this issue I would not have used them. They are pretty concrete. I want to know that you want to read and I want you to confirm it.
You can stop the process at any time.
I know that I will receive no justifiable spam complaints as a result of my campaign.

All the ideas, words, videos, layouts used are mine, they represent my knowledge and research and nobody else's; although, of course, I have learned much from other people, including readers of this thread and my report. As always, research is the result of a person standing upon the shoulders of others in order to see further.

So, please, do not ask me to distribute Death of a Russian Bride in any other manner - it will not happen.
Please do not try to infer that this report is not my own work or that it represents the ideas of another person or business, neither is true, and I will not dignify such suggestions with responses.

Take the words written at face value, deal with the ideas and issues as they appear to you.

If you want to read what I have written then sign up, using a disposable email address if you choose. Read my words and add to the conversation. Every constructive post here and in other places is read and adds to my sum total of knowledge. I am doing something that, to the best of my knowledge has not been done before. It could not have been done without the help and support of many readers here and will not be concluded without your/their help.

And yes, if you pass this report onto other people who might be interested in it then I will happily pay you the princely sum of $1 per subscription. I want to spread this document. It is my choice and challenge.


PS. Some have made inferences as to my purpose based upon the faulty reasoning that the name of the software/service I use to support this process. I am using www.thelistvirus.com because I know of no better way to manage a workflow of this type. The Death of a Russian Bride is actually a very good demonstration, on a very small scale, of the prowess of The List Virus. It has flawlessly functioned in managing signups, confirmations, affiliates and content delivery. I can't imagine having managed this job without it and absolutely not with the very high rate of confirmed signups achieved. So, thanks Todd at List Virus and thanks to you guys for following through the subscription process!
Let us do something positive, eh?

[Rasputin]

The USA is a different animal then Canada. One issue on the table is having a trial period for all sponsored spouses. Eg; if the marriage fails with in a 2 year period, the sponsored person will not get to remain in Canada.

Of course Canada is far different from the US.

A two-year trial period certainly sounds different than the two-year conditional resident visa in the U.S. that has been with us for many years, right?   

As far as I know there is no plan to revive the fiancé visa. The 2-year thing is merely one of those ideas that is thrown out there and will certainly go nowhere...

[dbneeley]

The USA is a different animal then Canada. One issue on the table is having a trial period for all sponsored spouses. Eg; if the marriage fails with in a 2 year period, the sponsored person will not get to remain in Canada.

Of course Canada is far different from the US.

A two-year trial period certainly sounds different than the two-year conditional resident visa in the U.S. that has been with us for many years, right?   

As far as I know there is no plan to revive the fiancé visa. The 2-year thing is merely one of those ideas that is thrown out there and will certainly go nowhere...

There is no relationship between the U.S. fiancee visa and the conditional green card. The two-year conditional resident visa applies to anyone who is married to a non-citizen whether following a fiancee visa or marriage in another country.

Thus, as I understand it, the Canadian proposal is extremely similar to the two-year conditional green card in the U.S.

It was simply amusing that Donholio claimed Canada is so different from the U.S., given his example.

David

[Rasputin]

We are. We don't have fiance visas, we don't have 2-year conditional permanent residence and you can also sponsor a same-sex spouse as far as I know... So, that makes us different enough What Don wrote are merely trial balloons to see the reaction.

[andrewfi]

Westcoast, I do not sell fake Viagra, nor have I ever sold used cars.
You kinda missed the point, perhaps the view from your armchair is getting a tad narrow, or more likely you have not actually read that which you criticise in such a nieve fashion. I would refer you to 'Death of a Russian Bride' where the points at issue are made pretty clear, IMBRA is just one issue among many. When you have read the report we can better discuss what I wrote, yes?

[Brasscasing]

Andrew now you've had a few too many celebratory New Year's Eve drinks.  What agency American or otherwise would have Canadians, Britons, Aussies etc do the American IMBRA paperwork knowing that the men are exempt?  What happens when one of these men points out to the agency proprietor that as a Brit he is exempt from IMBRA since his future wife will be living in the UK and not the US? What's next Estonian men having to fill out IMBRA paperwork when they marry an ethnic Russian woman in Estonia? 

Andrew I think you should concentrate on selling used cars or fake Viagra over the Internet that's obviously where your marketing expertise lays.   It really will be interesting to see what you're going to try and sell the men in the Russian bride community once your master marketing plan has run its course.  It's all about the 

Westy, first off, your comment quoted really doesn't lend itself to furthering the discussion at hand, let's avoid the inflammatory rhetoric, eh?.

Now, as Andrew alluded to above, the reality of the situation is that the special interest lobbyists/organizations in Canada (at least) are pushing for IMBRA type legislation and have been doing so for years, David and Don touched on it above commenting on the two year 'trial period' being on the table.

What Canadian men/women involved or are thinking of getting involved in an offshore relationship need to understand is the same (type) organizations that managed to push IMBRA through are actively seeking similar legislation here. Again, I firmly believe that one case of violence/abuse in any form against any  female/male immigrant or otherwise is one too many but that doesn't change the agenda.

Case in point. A federal briefing document published by (from what I gather) three of  these organizations:

Briefing

You'll note that as in this document and other documents, some  more militant in their wording, they don't make a distinction between 'mail order bride' and temporary foreign worker (Page 5, Para 9, bullet 4 (located page 6));

They define 'mail order bride' as any woman (I'll assume male or female but as their area of special interest is the female gender, we'll stick with that) who has met their spouse through an international introduction  or penpal agency (Page 2, Para Key Points, bullet 9 (located on page 3)); and

And one I find a little disturbing, a reversal of the victim/perpetrator role regarding men being used as mules under false pretences (Page 3, Para The Context, bullet 9 (located page 4)). In effect leaving the door open to make the sponsor guilty, regardless if the 'bride' turns out to be a GCG (for lack of equivelant Canadian term) duping a male for the purpose seeking immigration.

There are many such documents on the web. The point being here, is that in some ways, this is exactly what happened in the US. The terms were defined by these special interest groups, the 'industry 'and endeavor  (immigration for the purpose of marriage) tied to human trafficking, abuse and even foreign workers, then they went to work on the US lawmakers and IMBRA was born.

I'm not sensationalizing or by no means saying this type of legislation is imminent, what I am saying is these organizations are working diligently here in Canada to get their agenda enacted, while the (mostly) men who would seek a foreign relationship or the agencies/companies who would facilitate same, are really not paying attention...Exactly what happened in the US five years ago.

Brass

[WestCoast]

Westcoast, I do not sell fake Viagra, nor have I ever sold used cars.
You kinda missed the point, perhaps the view from your armchair is getting a tad narrow, or more likely you have not actually read that which you criticise in such a nieve fashion. I would refer you to 'Death of a Russian Bride' where the points at issue are made pretty clear, IMBRA is just one issue among many. When you have read the report we can better discuss what I wrote, yes?

My apologies Andrew so you don't sell fake Viagra, then it must be the fake Rolex watch brochures that I keep getting in email, so similar to your brochure.  As I mentioned before I've downloaded and read your report that's what gave me the impression that you were an Internet marketer.  The brochure was so much spam.     

As for the actual content of your report, my ex is in the immigration business and I volunteer at a community centre that has a large immigrant population.  In the past year I've probably met and spoken with more of the immigrants under discussion than most people on RUA or another forum will meet in a lifetime.