Ye Olde Age Difference Male Poll

[Rasputin]

Misha, be careful, there are a lot of guys, whose wives are muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh younger.
I am glad there is one man, who thinks that it is not normal to marry a man, who could be your father or grandfather

I know that many guys here have wives who are much younger. It is not necessarily or automatically a bad thing if both are adults and have reached the age of consent, but it is a bit disingenuous to claim that young women are interested in older men because they are attracted to older men. Men tend to underestimate the importance of attraction to women and women do value good looks in men.

[pup zemly]

I know that many guys here have wives who are much younger. It is not necessarily or automatically a bad thing if both are adults and have reached the age of consent, but it is a bit disingenuous to claim that young women are interested in older men because they are attracted to older men. Men tend to underestimate the importance of attraction to women and women do value good looks in men.

I totally agree. What I don't like is when such men assure that all Russian women like much older men and that it is common in Russia. Being a Russian, I can tell you it is not true. Such marriages are very RARE here.
It is common for Internet acquaintances. All the girls, who I know and who married much older men, followed their selfish purposes- money, social lever, country. I am not saying that wives of the forum guys married them because of the same things.
It is the same for me if a 40 yo man marries a 60 yo rich woman, saying it is the love of all his life. 

[pup zemly]

I would vomit if I had to kiss this man, being of his wife's age (I don't know how old she is in this pic), and I would die of vomitting if I had to make love with him  though I doubt he was able

[Rasputin]

I totally agree. What I don't like is when such men assure that all Russian women like much older men and that it is common in Russia.

The agency hype: all young attractive Russian women are traditional woman yearning for a much older Western man to whisk them away so they can become housewives devoted to their husbands.

[Rasputin]

I would vomit if I had to kiss this man, being of his wife's age (I don't know how old she is in this pic), and I would die of vomitting if I had to make love with him  though I doubt he was able

He was 63 years older so in the photo she would have been in her 20s and he would have been in his 80s. As for his abilities, there is always viagara 

[pup zemly]

He was 63 years older so in the photo she would have been in her 20s and he would have been in his 80s. As for his abilities, there is always viagara 

I am 26 now, oh my  I even cant imagine myself near the man of his age even in my nightmares , besides he looks as if he was 135 yo
viagra? do you think she felt so pleasant even when he kissed her? unless he kissed her through a 100$ bank note

[Rasputin]

I am 26 now, oh my  I even cant imagine myself near the man of his age even in my nightmares , besides he looks as if he was 135 yo
viagra? do you think she felt so pleasant even when he kissed her? unless he kissed her through a 100$ bank note

I am sure she was fantasizing about the billions she would inherit  The sad thing: even after her death, everybody is still duking it out in the courts to see who will get the money

[pup zemly]

I am sure she was fantasizing about the billions she would inherit  The sad thing: even after her death, everybody is still duking it out in the courts to see who will get the money

maybe he had a lover, who was much younger then her? 

[pup zemly]

I am sure she was fantasizing about the billions she would inherit  :

I don't love money that much

[Markje]

Misha, be careful, there are a lot of guys, whose wives are muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh younger.
I am glad there is one man, who thinks that it is not normal to marry a man, who could be your father or grandfather

There are more than one, even a few who have the age gap you speak of. They said it was a problem they had to overcome in their relationship.

[Turboguy]

Actually they say they would not recommend it for others and hint at problems but will never talk about what those problems are. 

I would be willing to bet that with the money he had there would have been a line of young women to marry him who would be quite happy to kiss him all he wanted and for that matter any where he wanted.   I think most of use would not stoop so low but who knows what anyone would do if the opportunity was right.

[Turboguy]

Well, I am putting guys in the 40s in the same category as Ms Smith: it is the same phenomenon, just one is at the extreme. Ms. Smith married for financial gain (though I am sure she would have denied it). Likewise, if your 40-year-old man from the United States or Canada or Europe were to move to Russia, renounce their citizenship, and find an "average" Russian job (i.e. not earning a huge salary), I really doubt that he would attract many 20-year-old hotties Turbo, in your case VWRW did move with you to the United States. So clearly, she received something from the deal: a Green Card (or at least she will receive a green card if you stay married for at least 2 years). We can argue as to how much the Green Card is worth (or not worth), but clearly she received something from you that she would not have received from a 20-year-old Russian stud.

My point is quite simple: all things being equal, a woman will go for an attractive young man. However, all things are rarely equal. For this reason, 40-year-old men can aspire to a 20-year-old-wife. 

We all look at what we gain in any relationship.   If there was nothing to gain there would be no reason for a relationship.   I think any attractive young lady who marries an older man would not have that much more difficulty finding a younger one so if that was really important to them.  Why would they sell themselves out so easily?

I still can't put 40 year old guys in the despicable over the hill range that no young woman would want them.   Most of the AW I dated in my 40's were in their early 20's and I was just average in most every way.   I will say I have seen 40 year old guys who looked over the hill but they are not the norm. 

[Rasputin]

We all look at what we gain in any relationship.   If there was nothing to gain there would be no reason for a relationship.   I think any attractive young lady who marries an older man would not have that much more difficulty finding a younger one so if that was really important to them.  Why would they sell themselves out so easily?

Again, young women usually chose older men for either financial gain or social gain. Either they want financial rewards (a husband with more money) or for status (i.e. they will marry a higher status husband if they think they can use their husband's status to achieve their personal or professional goals). If they marry a foreigner, then the question arises as to the status this new potential citizenship bestows upon them.

[supranatural]

I am not sure that young women like older men of 40 or so. They may like the attention and the added resources that many 40-year-olds will have (i.e. money), but I have yet to hear of young woman fantasizing  about a man 15, 20 or 25 years older than she is.

Rasputin you are correct about that young women generally do not fantasize about a man 15-25 years older than her.  My Ukrainian g/f is 20 years younger than me and when we first met she did not even think about the possiblity that we could be a couple and nor did I - I thought she was too young, she thought I was too old (despite her opinion that I looked much younger, an opinion shared by my co-workers and friends).  It was only after we went out in a group to a nightclub, had a chance to talk, dance, and share our views that we both realized there was some chemistry going on, which continued for several days before we both finally admitted that we were strongly attracted to each other and had very compatible personalities.  But to this day she says that in the beginning she did not consider me as mate material due to my age and nationality (Asian) but now she says that she cannot imagine life without us being together.  Neither one of us had planned on this, nor had we set our sights on each other's respective age groups (I was looking for someone closer to 10-12 years younger, not 20 years).

[Rasputin]

Rasputin you are correct about that young women generally do not fantasize about a man 15-25 years older than her.  My Ukrainian g/f is 20 years younger than me and when we first met she did not even think about the possiblity that we could be a couple and nor did I - I thought she was too young, she thought I was too old (despite her opinion that I looked much younger, an opinion shared by my co-workers and friends).  It was only after we went out in a group to a nightclub, had a chance to talk, dance, and share our views that we both realized there was some chemistry going on, which continued for several days before we both finally admitted that we were strongly attracted to each other and had very compatible personalities.  But to this day she says that in the beginning she did not consider me as mate material due to my age and nationality (Asian) but now she says that she cannot imagine life without us being together.  Neither one of us had planned on this, nor had we set our sights on each other's respective age groups (I was looking for someone closer to 10-12 years younger, not 20 years).

You answered your own question. No, young women generally do not fantasize about men 15-25 years older. You write that you g/f thought you were TOO OLD. Only later did she change her mind.

[supranatural]

LOL I didn't know I'd posed a question.  Actually Rasputin she changed her mind rather quickly...within hours of us meeting she knew that she was developing feelings for me and the same was true for me.  As I've said before, she knew of me through other people and assumed that due to my age I was your typical 44 year old guy but that changed very quickly after we met.  We were both surprised by our attraction to each other.  Everyone who has seen us together thinks we are less than 10 years apart not only because I do look young for my age (yes I know, *everyone* says this but I'm told this over and over by people I've never met in the States and abroad) but because we both act very young.

[Rasputin]

LOL I didn't know I'd posed a question.  Actually Rasputin she changed her mind rather quickly...within hours of us meeting she knew that she was developing feelings for me and the same was true for me.  As I've said before, she knew of me through other people and assumed that due to my age I was your typical 44 year old guy but that changed very quickly after we met.  We were both surprised by our attraction to each other.  Everyone who has seen us together thinks we are less than 10 years apart not only because I do look young for my age (yes I know, *everyone* says this but I'm told this over and over by people I've never met in the States and abroad) but because we both act very young.

However, the question remains: if you had been a 44 year old Ukrainian man would she have developed feeling for you?

[Wiz]

Firemansam

Women from the FSU are women from this planet! They are not so different from women next door …………..

Turbo

We all look at what we gain in any relationship.   If there was nothing to gain there would be no reason for a relationship.   I think any attractive young lady who marries an older man would not have that much more difficulty finding a younger one so if that was really important to them.  Why would they sell themselves out so easily?

Raspoutin

Again, young women usually chose older men for either financial gain or social gain……………….. If they marry a foreigner, then the question arises as to the status this new potential citizenship bestows upon them.

At the moment I am at the land of  “Toys-R-us” for attractive women, Russia …..and reading the above comments made me laugh for the fact that WM refuse to admit the real reasons and why they go to Russia or any FSU country to find a woman. Actually our American friends try to convince us that there are not many attractive young American women or all of them are money and material orientated and give us so many other excuses. Same applies for the UK men and European me too.

The facts are simple and I will not beat around the bush, I have to stay away from thr Russian BIO TOILETS....LOL

Every Western man who comes to the FSU to find a woman is always looking for a young very attractive and sexy woman no matter his age and financial status. It is a fact that for the same man back in his country it will be very difficult to find a very attractive woman of the same age except if he is well loaded but then he will call them Gold diggers BUT he is happy and accepts this to happen from the FSU women.

Raspoutin above stated the obvious reasons why Russian Young women accept such huge age difference and don’t delude yourself and AndrewsFi theory about the dirty barrel is very accurate.

Look around the ages of the married guys here and on the other boards, the photos published here and on another forum and the age gap is glaring obvious. I don’t have any objections to large age differences (everybody to his own and I am one of those) and I would not say that you cannot have or develop a good relationship with your FSU woman……..but accept, as I have, that primarily you go to the FSU to find a Young and Hot FSU woman. It is a simple as that.



PS: Turbo everything is going great..........and I enjoy life here and have good fun with my Baboushka,according to my Russian young woman "friend" on RUA. .........and the ex-Pats (surprisingly many AM/UK around).......  

[pup zemly]

It is a fact that for the same man back in his country it will be very difficult to find a very attractive woman of the same age except if he is well loaded but then he will call them Gold diggers BUT he is happy and accepts this to happen from the FSU women.

man, why do you think that those men are attractive? 
No need to create dreams, live in reality.
It is the same if an ugly person says "look is not important but personality" 
It is an illness when young women are attracted by much older men. Sorry I forgot how this syndrom is called.
According to your words, young wives should leave their old husband after 5-10 years to find more attractive and young men

[supranatural]

However, the question remains: if you had been a 44 year old Ukrainian man would she have developed feeling for you?

The answer is yes.  My g/f knew other foreign men and was not interested in them - she loves her country and had no intentions of leaving it (she'd been asked by these men I knew before I'd ever met her - they relayed this to me even before I met her).  She has a very interesting life in Ukraine - she is always doing activities, whether it be a week long hike in Crimea, a business symposium or seminar in Western Ukraine, or spending the weekend at the shore, etc.  and her family is not poor - her brothers own a very successful business and as a result take care of the family financially (bought the father a brand new car 2 years ago for his birthday for example, each own their own homes, my g/f works the family business...).  Another reason she discounted me as mate material before she'd met me was also because I was a foreign man.

[Turboguy]

Wiz,  I am glad to hear your trip is going well and that all of the fun and happiness you have dreamed of is now a reality. 

Things are going well here as well.   Today is the one month mark of VWRW being here.   Things are going great.  I think we both have found the kind of life we dreamed of.   The age difference does not seem to create a bit of problem.    In the month she has been here so far no one has looked at us funny.  No one has called her my daughter or grand daughter and most everyone has guessed her to be my GF or fiancee.   (we have had two people on our travels guess her to be my daughter but otherwise the guess is always GF, fiancee or wife.)

Tell me Julie, how much experience do you have in an age gap relationship to dispense such sage advice? 

[andrewfi]

You are correct. Hey if a marriage works even with a large age difference, then the age difference doesn't real matter.

Thank God love is blind 

DonAz

Love is not blind.
Sometimes, in order to avoid embarrassment, love averts its gaze.

[pup zemly]

Tell me Julie, how much experience do you have in an age gap relationship to dispense such sage advice? 

i have been working in the Internet dating service for almost 5 years. And believe me, I know what women really think when such men write them. And I know their rel purposes of marrying much older men.
Plus I am a Russian myself and I can assure anybody that it is BS that we love grandfathers

[justme]

Seems to be a lot of differing opinions here.  I think there is some truth to both sides.  While I do not think that MOST young girls look or expect to be attracted to men 20+ years their senior, I do know that they are not totally disinterested either.  I am 47, and while I do not attempt to date girls in their early 20's(I would CONSIDER someone a young as 28, but only under the best of circumstances), I have been approached several times here in Florida by girls as young as 20, who made it clear that they wanted to go out with me.  These comments came without my ever making any suggestion of interest.  I am not saying that they wanted to marry me, but there was apparently enough attraction in their eyes to ask me out.  I am in a little better shape than Mr. Smith though. 

My point is that even without green cards, social status or other benefits, there are girls 20+ years junior to men who do find some interest in older men.  It is not THAT repulsive to them.  And as previously stated, there are SOME benefits to older men.  As usual, I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of all the varying opinions.

[Wiz]

man, why do you think that those men are attractive? 
No need to create dreams, live in reality.
It is the same if an ugly person says "look is not important but personality" 
It is an illness when young women are attracted by much older men. Sorry I forgot how this syndrom is called.
According to your words, young wives should leave their old husband after 5-10 years to find more attractive and young men

Julie

What you quote from my posting and what you say in your comments have no connection whatsoever.

Did you really understood what I was commenting or you just came out with your own ranting?

May I suggest you to read again my post and then see if there is any connection with your comments. Also look to your answer further down you gave to Turbo and see if you can find any connection?

It Will be more usefull if you could comment for what actually I was saying in my post....... if you understood my comments and not rant for unconnected subjects.

Apart from quoting other women and experience in helping them out to BS older men....

DO YOU have any personal experience in relationships?

BTW I like your BIO toilets......LOL