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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2008, 04:03:26 PM »
f.Ukrainia-is a country of sex tourism.Fk-ukrainie, didn't you know about it before your trip?
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Gosh Russia must be such a perfect country! No girl having sex for money!  :chuckle: Wow! It took 2 seconds to "Google" and there are 548,000 results. I'm sure all these girls are only looking for a rich man to play chess with....  ::) ???


Come on Mirror, do you think this only happens in Ukraine?  :D


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Offline Cestmoi

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2008, 07:24:38 PM »
Hello chaps


Hi FC-Ukraine ;-)

Personally I would gladly read your chapters :-) You should be flattered by critic.
Plus, you already got a female supporter. Why don't you get in touch with Mirror - she is very sensitive, honest, nice, kindhearted lady. Plus, you already share with her same passionate views about Ukraine. Now you can together hate Ukraine and Ukrainian females :-)
how romantic....  :-*

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2008, 07:36:50 PM »

Come on Mirror, do you think this only happens in Ukraine?  :D



:-X everybody knows that all prostitutes in Russia are originally from Ukraine, and few of them - from Moldova. Latest ukrainian statistics bureau report shows that in the last 5 years Ukraine has lost to Russia 552'385 females of reproductive age. 4'385 of them are either dead from AIDS and violence, or have married russian citizens and have obtained in indecent way russian "propiska" in major Russian cities. Which leaves exactly 548'000 of prostitutes currently working in sex-escort in Russia. See? All is clear.  :reading: :knit:


btw. didn't you know that "Essential Escort Service Skills" is a mandatory course for all females in all Ukrainian high-schools? If ua females don't pass qualifying exam - they can never finish high school, and are essentially deprived from any prospectives for good future. I am sure Mirror knows this fact. She seems to be very knowledgeable about Ukrainian reality.


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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2008, 07:42:51 PM »

:-X everybody knows that all prostitutes in Russia are originally from Ukraine.

WHAT!!!! The "Naked Russian Sex bombs" are from Ukraine? False advertising....  >:(

Plus, you already share with her same passionate views about Ukraine. Now you can together hate Ukraine and Ukrainian females :-)

Won't F**K Ukraine be surprised to meet some Ukrainian girls in his next visit to a Moscow whorehouse....  :o  :P

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2008, 07:49:19 PM »

Won't F**K Ukraine be surprised to meet some Ukrainian girls in his next visit to a Moscow whorehouse....  :o  :P

FC-Ukraine, don't go to Moscow, there you will be cheated and taken advantage of by ukrainian girls again...

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2008, 07:54:26 PM »

Won't F**K Ukraine be surprised to meet some Ukrainian girls in his next visit to a Moscow whorehouse....  :o  :P

FC-Ukraine, don't go to Moscow, there you will be cheated and taken advantage of by ukrainian girls again...

Mirror will protect him. She can spot a money grubbing Ukrainian girl from a mile away.

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2008, 10:02:54 PM »

Come on Mirror, do you think this only happens in Ukraine?  :D


btw. didn't you know that "Essential Escort Service Skills" is a mandatory course for all females in all Ukrainian high-schools? If ua females don't pass qualifying exam - they can never finish high school, and are essentially deprived from any prospectives for good future. I am sure Mirror knows this fact. She seems to be very knowledgeable about Ukrainian reality.


I Love Ukraine girls even more than before!!!  :)

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #57 on: August 27, 2008, 10:09:49 PM »


I Love Ukraine girls even more than before!!!  :)

Is that because paying by the hour is easier now that the Pound has risen vs. dollar?  :money:  :o :o :o  :evilgrin0002: :evilgrin0002:  :laugh:

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #58 on: August 27, 2008, 10:48:28 PM »
That means most beautiful ukraine girls are escort!   :party0031:

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #59 on: August 27, 2008, 11:12:47 PM »
I was going to share my personal diary with chapters on:
13)   Don’t try to be a hero: let men hit woman and fight on nightclubs.

Thank you all for your time and comprehension on a stupid naïve traveller.
Good luck on your quest.



Tha's quite the list of statements you have there ..."professor." Is it really your belief it's ok for men to "hit" women?

I rather think he was being ironic and you missed his point - *I'm* guessing they tried to intervene and weren't "welcome"...

Now *IF* we hear his trip report in full - we'll know better !


Don't some members think we might have been slightly "harsh" with "FU" ?

He's been candid enough to post his "mistakes" and now he's learnt about Anastasiaweb.. but how many of us - as newbies - were impressed by the photos of their women :) ?

FU, you joined here for the right reasons ..... there are a lot of people here who can help you return to the FSU ( may be UA) and have a better experience !




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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #60 on: August 27, 2008, 11:31:04 PM »
That means most beautiful ukraine girls are escort!   :party0031:

does it mean that i am not beautiful? or not ukrainian?
(on the second thought, there should be some reasons for my grandma swearing and joking in Yiddish   ::))



this is not the topic on russian/ukr anecdotes... but just remembered one.. quite old one..
 
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The small village is at unrest: girl named Galia, - who was born in the village, then left for big city, and accordingly to gossipers was working there as a prostitute, - is coming back to visit her parents. Villagers talk to each other: what a shame to all decent and honest villagers to have raised a prostitute in the community. Finally, they decide to call a public meeting and openly criticize immoral lifestyle of the girl.
The girl comes to the village, public meeting starts. The head of local village administration takes the lead on the meeting, calls Galia to the front, and asks her with "prosecutor's voice":
- How did you end up being a prostitute? You could have chosen any respectable work - you could have been milking cows, you could have worked at pigs' farm, you could have worked with paltry or in the apple orchard... you could have even learned to drive "tractor".. and what have you chosen instead?

Galia smiles rather happy and dreamily, pets the fur on her mink coat, and replies:
- I was just lucky.

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #61 on: August 28, 2008, 12:14:10 AM »
Every comment from Ukrainian women  about UA  countryand from men who is dating Ukrainian women is understandable for me  :evilgrin0002: and I hope  for a fk-ukrainia is understandable also.
Sorry, but any chance  to change an opinion about UA and people there is very weak.Maybe a time will chance UA and people there (but I am not sure really in it also).

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« Reply #62 on: August 28, 2008, 12:18:12 AM »
Maybe a time will chance UA and people there (but I am not sure really in it also).


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ну что вы.... люди столько не живут  :laugh:

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« Reply #63 on: August 28, 2008, 05:20:38 AM »
It's too bad that this guy did not complete his TR. Not all of us are experts with nothing to learn. The reaction he got here reminds me of another forum ( of which we shall not speak).

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #64 on: August 28, 2008, 06:56:44 AM »
It's too bad that this guy did not complete his TR. Not all of us are experts with nothing to learn. The reaction he got here reminds me of another forum ( of which we shall not speak).

I have to agree. We should have let it play out a little. Like I said earlier, not all of my first impressions were positive and I drive through East St. Louis everyday for work so I'm not a stranger to urban blight.

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #65 on: August 28, 2008, 07:33:50 AM »

Don't some members think we might have been slightly "harsh" with "FU" ?

Msmoby, read the first 2 pages, before he replied on page 3 and stormed off in a huff. Who all do you think was too harsh? Cestmoi, Andrew, Chris, Mike, Chili & others were pretty nice IMO, they just told the guy that he had been unprepared and probably came off as arrogant, a sure date-killer.

The only somwhat harsh comment was from lcdrp. {Lieut. Commander P?} Trust a Navy man to come right out and say what's on his mind with no sugar-coating!  ;D I think lcdrp's analysis was probably pretty close to the mark FWIW.

If the guy has such a thin skin that he can't take one critical post, especially after choosing that screen name, he has some growing up to do.


For me, you lost credibility by posting the screen name of FU.  It is not only inappropriate and extremely vulgar, but shows a very immature and insolent nature.  Combine that with the title of your thread and you immediately portrait yourself as an arrogant and limited individual (especially in your experience as a traveler) ....all of this and I have not even read your first sentence.  To claim yourself as an experienced world traveler and never experienced this...I can only question the validity of this statement.  My best recommendation would be to get an appropriate screen name that is not akin to a ghetto tag on the side of a building, rename your thread, and write an even, balanced, account of your experience.  

He's been candid enough to post his "mistakes" and now he's learnt about Anastasiaweb.. but how many of us - as newbies - were impressed by the photos of their women :) ?

FU, you joined here for the right reasons ..... there are a lot of people here who can help you return to the FSU ( may be UA) and have a better experience !

Doesn't sound like he had much interest inlearning for trip #2, sounded like he just wanted to vent...

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #66 on: August 28, 2008, 08:27:20 AM »
It's too bad that this guy did not complete his TR. Not all of us are experts with nothing to learn. The reaction he got here reminds me of another forum ( of which we shall not speak).

Folk were a tad harsh on him I agree. If someone sent him a PM he would get an e-mail notification..........
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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #67 on: August 28, 2008, 09:06:36 AM »
Voyager,
your attempt to analyse a person (fk-ukrainie) looks  funny ...don't you find it?
It is very clear that you have a different opinion about UA and you try to cover your attitude under a criticism of other person.Why not to say it simpler like :" I like UA  and Ukrainian girls" and finish story. Nobody will criticise you for that. Fk-ukrainia described his private experience and you try to show that he is vulgar etc.Sorry...but if you like UA -it is your business and it doesn't meant you are better or higher than anybody else (like you try to show it),opposite in eyes of some people you (with your comments about others) can look like more vulgar than fk-ukrainia.

I find a name of this thread straight,honest. And a author sounds like an easy going, open minded, learning,smart person. I'd like to read more his private notices about other his travels somewhere. His "language' is interesting to read.

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #68 on: August 28, 2008, 10:10:54 AM »

Don't some members think we might have been slightly "harsh" with "FU" ?

Msmoby, read the first 2 pages, before he replied on page 3 and stormed off in a huff. Who all do you think was too harsh? Cestmoi, Andrew, Chris, Mike, Chili & others were pretty nice IMO, they just told the guy that he had been unprepared and probably came off as arrogant, a sure date-killer.

The only somwhat harsh comment was from lcdrp. {Lieut. Commander P?} Trust a Navy man to come right out and say what's on his mind with no sugar-coating!  ;D I think lcdrp's analysis was probably pretty close to the mark FWIW.

If the guy has such a thin skin that he can't take one critical post, especially after choosing that screen name, he has some growing up to do.


For me, you lost credibility by posting the screen name of FU.  It is not only inappropriate and extremely vulgar, but shows a very immature and insolent nature.  Combine that with the title of your thread and you immediately portrait yourself as an arrogant and limited individual (especially in your experience as a traveler) ....all of this and I have not even read your first sentence.  To claim yourself as an experienced world traveler and never experienced this...I can only question the validity of this statement.  My best recommendation would be to get an appropriate screen name that is not akin to a ghetto tag on the side of a building, rename your thread, and write an even, balanced, account of your experience.  

He's been candid enough to post his "mistakes" and now he's learnt about Anastasiaweb.. but how many of us - as newbies - were impressed by the photos of their women :) ?

FU, you joined here for the right reasons ..... there are a lot of people here who can help you return to the FSU ( may be UA) and have a better experience !

Doesn't sound like he had much interest inlearning for trip #2, sounded like he just wanted to vent...

Coast Guard ::) ;D

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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #69 on: August 28, 2008, 10:41:11 AM »
Voyager,
your attempt to analyse a person (fk-ukrainie) looks  funny ...don't you find it?

?? Excuse me? Where have I tried to analyse him? Here is what I have said on this thread about Mr. F U. Feel free to point out where I analyse him.

Maybe total lack of planning....

That user name is going to get tiresome real fast.....

Changing the user name to something less offensive would help.

It doesn't sound like he really wants to go back...




Anyway, I had an unforgettable time in Odessa, I had fun as a good traveller and it has being a true enriching experience

That line doesn't quite match with your screen name of F**k Ukraine.

Gosh Russia must be such a perfect country! No girls having sex for money!

Msmoby, read the first 2 pages, before he replied on page 3 and stormed off in a huff. Who all do you think was too harsh?

The only somewhat harsh comment was from lcdrp.

I think lcdrp's analysis was probably pretty close to the mark FWIW.

If the guy has such a thin skin that he can't take one critical post, especially after choosing that screen name, he has some growing up to do.

Doesn't sound like he had much interest in learning for trip #2

sounded like he just wanted to vent...



It is very clear that you have a different opinion about UA and you try to cover your attitude under a criticism of other person.

My criticism has nothing to do with my attitude to UA, I would have said the exact same thing if his trip report had been from Russia or Estonia or Zimbabwe or wherever.

I said:
1.) He had a lack of planning.
2.) That screen name was inappropriate
3.) Doesn't sound like he had much interest in learning for trip #2
4.) If the guy has such a thin skin that he can't take one critical post, especially after choosing that screen name, he has some growing up to do.

I stand by those opinions, I think they are valid

If he had written the same thread with "F**K Russia" I would have responded the exact same way.

Why not to say it simpler like :" I like UA  and Ukrainian girls" and finish story. Nobody will criticise you for that.

I could say I like Russian culture & Russian girls, it would be equally valid.

Fk-ukrainia described his private experience and you try to show that he is vulgar etc.

I said nothing about his story being vulgar, go back and read my posts.

I said the word F**K in a screen name was inappropriate in my opinion.
Manny changed it, complain to Manny


Sorry...but if you like UA -it is your business and it doesn't meant you are better or higher than anybody else (like you try to show it),

I am what I am. I try to be fair, and polite. Please show me where I try to show where I am "higher than anybody else".

I find a name of this thread straight,honest.

I had no problem with the name of the thread. I only thought that the word F**K was vulgar in a screen name.

 
And a author sounds like an easy going, open minded, learning,smart person. I'd like to read more his private notices about other his travels somewhere.

He is more than welcome to post it.





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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #70 on: August 28, 2008, 01:16:34 PM »
It's too bad that this guy did not complete his TR. Not all of us are experts with nothing to learn. The reaction he got here reminds me of another forum ( of which we shall not speak).

I have to agree. We should have let it play out a little. Like I said earlier, not all of my first impressions were positive and I drive through East St. Louis everyday for work so I'm not a stranger to urban blight.

i regret of responding too fast..   :( i always like reading trip reports..

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« Reply #71 on: August 28, 2008, 01:32:16 PM »

I said:
1.) He had a lack of planning.
2.) That screen name was inappropriate
3.) Doesn't sound like he had much interest in learning for trip #2
4.) If the guy has such a thin skin that he can't take one critical post, especially after choosing that screen name, he has some growing up to do.

I stand by those opinions, I think they are valid

If he had written the same thread with "F**K Russia" I would have responded the exact same way.

My attitude and opinion are exactly the same.

also, in my understanding, if somebody argues his viewpoint sharply, he or she should be ready to receive as sharp feedback from the audience.

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« Reply #72 on: August 28, 2008, 01:48:56 PM »
Sorry...but if you like UA -it is your business and it doesn't meant you are better or higher than anybody else (like you try to show it),

had the OP written in the introduction "I am round and overweight, bolding, 160cm tall, 57yo guy, wearing glasses, with bad teeth and breath, never washing my clothes, stingy, poor, abusive, unkind, aiming to have sex with 18yo virgins" - some authors would sympathize such guy much less, and will be more commenting on the ukrainian prostitutes.   ::)


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Re: Just back from Odessa! Don't go to Ukraine!
« Reply #73 on: August 28, 2008, 06:12:57 PM »


Don't some members think we might have been slightly "harsh" with "FU" ?

Msmoby, read the first 2 pages, before he replied on page 3 and stormed off in a huff. Who all do you think was too harsh? Cestmoi, Andrew, Chris, Mike, Chili & others were pretty nice IMO, they just told the guy that he had been unprepared and probably came off as arrogant, a sure date-killer.

1/ I read all the posts beforing commenting - even debating the possible flak !

2 /No need to name names... I stand by my opinion and I note that others are now reconsidering - I just hope the OP comes back.. ;)



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« Reply #74 on: August 28, 2008, 06:27:42 PM »

2 /No need to name names... I stand by my opinion and I note that others are now reconsidering - I just hope the OP comes back.. ;)

my opinion is unchanged, and strengthened after OP's second post.
though it would be great if OP comes back - i'm rather curious what else had happened to him :-)

 


 

 

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