Russian, Ukrainian & FSU Information & Manosphere Discussion Forums

Dating & Marriage With Women From Russia, Ukraine, Belarus & FSU => Married Chat => Topic started by: rosco on September 15, 2018, 03:42:22 AM

Title: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 15, 2018, 03:42:22 AM
Sometimes I write like I think I'm so smart. I'm not very smart. Or wise.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

 And I know that no one can do this for me.

It's important you know all possible scenarios. The good, the bad, and the ugly. If she's a good woman, you don't have to worry about the ugly happening. If you chose a woman you're not compatible with, you will experience the bad in the form of a divorce. If you chose a good woman, you're a good man, and you're both compatible, you will experience good things. Two good people make good things happen. You know her and yourself better than we do.

What a load of rubbish. You do know two good people can still divorce right?

I was with a guy on business this week and he told me he just separated from his wife. After 2 boys and 23 years of marriage they just one day decided nothing was there anymore. They called a meeting with the lawyers, told them to take notes and listen whilst they agreed a split. The lawyers weren’t too happy but they had to roll with it.

Slightly off topic but Billy’s better sticking to US war talk and global domination as opposed to dishing out poor advice. Like a dog walking back to its vomit, he’ll return to tell me I’m wrong.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 15, 2018, 03:53:06 AM
When I met my wife for the first time there was nothing to worry about or even think about, I had been speaking to her in Skype non stop for 6 months.. so already knew her very well and when we met we both clicked "Just like that"
She has the same mentality as me "Stupid"  :ROFL:

But I don't mind being stupid.. tiphat
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 15, 2018, 04:50:19 PM
You do know two good people can still divorce right?


No, two good people make good things happen.

I was with a guy on business this week and he told me he just separated from his wife. After 2 boys and 23 years of marriage they just one day decided nothing was there anymore.


For 23 years one or both those people let their marriage deteriorate without taking action. The problem developed over time. Good people will recognize a problem and fix it right away, not let it grow. Falling out of love with each other doesn't happen overnight. One or both of those people watched their marriage deteriorate and didn't really care.

Couples have differences. One person may like sex more than the other. That's the way it's with most couples. There must be a compromise. They both should recognize each others needs and take care of those needs. If you don't take care of your spouse's needs, you're not a good person.

There could be different political views. If a conversation about politics gets a couple to hate each other, the solution is to stop talking politics.

Justadude knows his fiancée eats meat and she knows he doesn't eat meat and yet knowing this, they agreed to marry each other. Justadude may think he's a good guy like the guy you just talked about but if he denies his wife something she likes, he's not a good guy.

Like a dog walking back to its vomit, you'll return to tell me I’m wrong.



Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 16, 2018, 06:49:02 AM
Billy, it’s my opinion that you’re beyond help and any education provided for free won’t help you see the world differently because you’re ignorant.

Facebook is classic for this. Several thousand people see and comment on a post with many holding similar views. Then a Billy pops up with a polar opposite view. Hundreds of posters try to explain to Billy why he’s wrong but Billy refuses to listen or even attempt to understand.

Billy’s and their ignorance used to drive me mad, I could never work out how they could be so simple. Now I just accept that laggards are sadly part of society.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 16, 2018, 12:01:13 PM
Billy, it’s my opinion that you’re beyond help and any education provided for free won’t help you see the world differently because you’re ignorant.

Billy’s and their ignorance used to drive me mad,


It's clear you still get mad when somebody else has a different opinion and everybody who has a different opinion are ignorant and beyond help. That means you feel you are surrounded by idiots. It's hard to function in a world when you think that way. Anger management classes are available. The first step to a cure is admitting you have a problem.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 16, 2018, 01:07:31 PM
Billy, it’s my opinion that you’re beyond help and any education provided for free won’t help you see the world differently because you’re ignorant.

Billy’s and their ignorance used to drive me mad,


It's clear you still get mad when somebody else has a different opinion and everybody who has a different opinion are ignorant and beyond help. That means you feel you are surrounded by idiots. It's hard to function in a world when you think that way. Anger management classes are available. The first step to a cure is admitting you have a problem.

Clear to an ignorant little man maybe.

I offer no anger towards you Billy, or the other Billy’s bumbling through life, blissfully ignorant to their surroundings. Sadness possibly.

I respect differing opinions provided it’s backed up with rational, coherent foundation. You on the other hand, tend to base your pillars of wisdom on ignorance.

Let’s focus on recent events. You tell us definitively that two good people can’t simply grow apart and separate in a fair and respectful manner. You tell us they neglected their marriage and they’re guilty of poor relationship management. In some instances your guess may be correct but not in every single one.

It’s clear that you refuse to accept fact or reality and you refuse to see alternatives. You are ignorant but at least consistent with every view you have on life.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 16, 2018, 02:49:53 PM
Clear to an ignorant little man maybe.


When you don't like something you hear, you attack the messenger instead of the message. You attack the poster instead of the post.

If you have something valuable to say, don't be insecure attacking a poster. Post your message next to theirs and people can compare. Be confident your message will have more value than those you debate.

Let’s focus on recent events. You tell us definitively that two good people can’t simply grow apart and separate in a fair and respectful manner. You tell us they neglected their marriage and they’re guilty of poor relationship management. In some instances your guess may be correct but not in every single one.


I got employees coming in late occasionally. They have excuses. I once had an employee that often called in sick after getting their paycheck. I know they're on drugs. Some employees are lazy. Others have a drinking problem affecting work or gambling problem and always need a draw. They probably think they are good employees and worth every penny.

I don't wait 23 years before divorcing/firing them. Problems get solved right away or the business will suffer. Good employees make good things happen. If they're not good and don't make changes, bad things will happen and we won't be working with each other anymore.

Same with marriage. Problems arise and two good people will recognize the problem and solve it. One or both people ignoring the problem increases the chances of the two people growing apart. One or both people will have failed in their marriage. One or both people aren't marriage material.

I understand people change over the years which is a given but it's up to them to make sure they don't drift apart from their spouse or it will end in divorce. Failure to recognize a problem or failure to act after a problem is recognized are not the behaviors of a good person.

Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 17, 2018, 03:25:42 AM
Billy, let's just stick to the marriage issue here for a moment. I'll use my example seeing its the one I brought up which started this discussion. She's an estate agent, he owns 2 successful business' and they both come from upper middle class backgrounds and good schooling. They have 2 teenage boys and a nice life.

They have no divisive martial problems, no lovers and no financial concern. Perhaps the best way of describing it, is that their mutual love for one another has changed, the sparks not there any longer. It's a case of two intelligent people recognising their situation and making a life changing decision which may be in their best interests for the next part of their lives. Personally I think its quite a refreshingly adult thing to do in a hugely difficult situation.

You cant work at that Billy and I hope this isn't bad news for you. They still have respect and strong bonds for one another......but not love. You cant stop time and with time comes change. Sadly, relationships can suffer as a consequence but divorce doesn't always come about as a result of abuse.

In this instance, 'working at it' wouldn't have changed a thing. I spoke with the bloke at length last week and the best thing about it, is that its a mutual decision and they'll remain in each others lives. At the lawyers it was explained that the most important thing was for a fair settlement so they could stand on the touchline together and watch their boys play rugby.

Now reading what you wrote, it all sounds rather naive and simplistic to say that people just need to avoid drifting apart. How can you recognise a problem if there isn't one?

This makes me begin to wonder if the people who 'work' for you really are taking drugs or is it just Billy and his overly simplistic, judgmental view on life? Same with the ones with the apparent drinking and gambling problems. Now maybe they do but I don't really have you down as the best judge of character on this very forum never mind your own continent.

You've already confessed your attitudes towards women on RUA, and it troubled me.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 17, 2018, 06:43:09 AM
How can you recognise a problem if there isn't one?


Falling out of love within a marriage is a problem. Leads to divorce almost every time. It doesn't happen for no reason. You say the couple is intelligent and have good jobs but it doesn't make either of them marriage material. How about their physical appearance? If one lets their body go, it may not light the fire anymore for the other spouse. Maybe they began to love their work more than each other? Maybe they began to lust for another person? You weren't there during their 23 years of marriage but you talk as if you're an expert witness. You can convince me one of the two was a good spouse who tried to solve why the love within the marriage was diminishing over time but as a unit, they couldn't keep it together and make good things happen.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 17, 2018, 06:53:41 AM
How can you recognise a problem if there isn't one?


Falling out of love within a marriage is a problem. Leads to divorce almost every time. It doesn't happen for no reason. You say the couple is intelligent and have good jobs but it doesn't make either of them marriage material. How about their physical appearance? If one lets their body go, it may not light the fire anymore for the other spouse. Maybe they began to love their work more than each other? Maybe they began to lust for another person? You weren't there during their 23 years of marriage but you talk as if you're an expert witness. You can convince me one of the two was a good spouse who tried to solve why the love within the marriage was diminishing over time but as a unit, they couldn't keep it together and make good things happen.

Contention is usually a big problem.. people get content and life becomes boring.. its easy to fix physical appearance .. boob job, botox .. hair transplant plastic surgery..

Not so easy to fix the thing between your legs if you get problems down there..and humans are only animals  and need sex just like the bunny rabbits in the fields..


I would suggest one of these in the house..its sure to keep some spark going even after 30 years..  :laugh:

(https://scontent.fhel3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41866329_1756816291083934_5687528631190945792_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=180fcfc98fd75a98074f77a5692db464&oe=5C2A1AF3)
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 17, 2018, 08:39:01 AM
How can you recognise a problem if there isn't one?


Falling out of love within a marriage is a problem. Leads to divorce almost every time. It doesn't happen for no reason. You say the couple is intelligent and have good jobs but it doesn't make either of them marriage material. How about their physical appearance? If one lets their body go, it may not light the fire anymore for the other spouse. Maybe they began to love their work more than each other? Maybe they began to lust for another person? You weren't there during their 23 years of marriage but you talk as if you're an expert witness. You can convince me one of the two was a good spouse who tried to solve why the love within the marriage was diminishing over time but as a unit, they couldn't keep it together and make good things happen.

Before our convo derails this thread altogether, I'll say my last piece.

You appear to be someone who likes to apportion blame, because someone needs to be blamed in Billy's world. I agree that many of the things you pointed out are in fact true in a number of broken marriages, but not all! Which is exactly my point here about marriage and to a lesser extent you.

In this case, both are presentable where neither have let themselves go so physical appearance isn't the problem. They seem to have fairly active and inclusive social lives so its not about ignoring each other or working too many hours. There is no other person or persons in this picture so lust is out. And you're right I wasn't there for the duration of their marriage but I've been very close to them for over 9 years.

See this is what I'm taking about with ignorance Billy. You cant accept that they are good people who had an otherwise excellent marriage for 2 - 3 decades and have built a nice little empire and even today - they don't hate each others guts. It's just not the same anymore and they're both different people in their 50's compared to when they were in their 20's. Sorry but there is no trigger or inflection point here which led to the divorce.

Conversely, they could have stayed together until death do us part. Neither of them would have complained due to the generally happiness, and there's lots of couples in this basket. Are these couples going through the motions or are they too scared to change their one shot at life because society generally views it as failure.....like you do now. I'm quite sad that they've decided to end their marriage but equally I think its a brave decision for both of them. Many would bury their head and think ah well, I signed up to this 3 decades ago so here I am.

Love comes in all shapes and forms and it seems like you sadly think love is one thing. They do love each other, just differently and they feel they can have much fuller lives separated but connected as friends and parents. It no doubt requires both parties to be at the same place in their lives for no one to be hurt but its a grown up decision none the less. I know you cant get your head round it but sometimes people do just grow apart, they become different people or want different things. What you had in common 20/30 years ago may be different today and that by the way includes good friends too.

Anyway, they were my case study in this example and I highly doubt that you'll be getting back to me saying, oh yea Rosco I see where you're coming from now. Billy's world will still be defined by Billy's rules. You have a lack of knowledge here and you'll deliberately ignore these facts and the information, hence why I think you're ignorant.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 17, 2018, 08:39:51 AM
How can you recognise a problem if there isn't one?


Falling out of love within a marriage is a problem. Leads to divorce almost every time. It doesn't happen for no reason. You say the couple is intelligent and have good jobs but it doesn't make either of them marriage material. How about their physical appearance? If one lets their body go, it may not light the fire anymore for the other spouse. Maybe they began to love their work more than each other? Maybe they began to lust for another person? You weren't there during their 23 years of marriage but you talk as if you're an expert witness. You can convince me one of the two was a good spouse who tried to solve why the love within the marriage was diminishing over time but as a unit, they couldn't keep it together and make good things happen.

Contention is usually a big problem.. people get content and life becomes boring.. its easy to fix physical appearance .. boob job, botox .. hair transplant plastic surgery..

Not so easy to fix the thing between your legs if you get problems down there..and humans are only animals  and need sex just like the bunny rabbits in the fields..


I would suggest one of these in the house..its sure to keep some spark going even after 30 years..  :laugh:

(https://scontent.fhel3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41866329_1756816291083934_5687528631190945792_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=180fcfc98fd75a98074f77a5692db464&oe=5C2A1AF3)

Is that a photo from your basement Steve?  :o
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 17, 2018, 10:47:18 AM
How can you recognise a problem if there isn't one?


Falling out of love within a marriage is a problem. Leads to divorce almost every time. It doesn't happen for no reason. You say the couple is intelligent and have good jobs but it doesn't make either of them marriage material. How about their physical appearance? If one lets their body go, it may not light the fire anymore for the other spouse. Maybe they began to love their work more than each other? Maybe they began to lust for another person? You weren't there during their 23 years of marriage but you talk as if you're an expert witness. You can convince me one of the two was a good spouse who tried to solve why the love within the marriage was diminishing over time but as a unit, they couldn't keep it together and make good things happen.

Contention is usually a big problem.. people get content and life becomes boring.. its easy to fix physical appearance .. boob job, botox .. hair transplant plastic surgery..

Not so easy to fix the thing between your legs if you get problems down there..and humans are only animals  and need sex just like the bunny rabbits in the fields..


I would suggest one of these in the house..its sure to keep some spark going even after 30 years..  :laugh:

(https://scontent.fhel3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41866329_1756816291083934_5687528631190945792_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=180fcfc98fd75a98074f77a5692db464&oe=5C2A1AF3)

Is that a photo from your basement Steve?  :o

No not at the moment.. its in the Attic... :laugh:

We are slowly building it up.. last time I was in London I popped into Ann Summers on Oxford Street , they have a place just like this and it was packed out.. I thought about buying a gimp suit! But the wife would probably say I'm going a little far with that.. :laugh:

I wasn't exactly sure what the objects to the right are, with the fur hanging? Some kind of duster I think to get rid of the cob webs..????? :ROFL:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Manny on September 17, 2018, 10:48:23 AM
You do know two good people can still divorce right?


No, two good people make good things happen.

I put it to you Billy that sometimes, if people drift apart as Rosco described, it will be a good thing that a couple amicably divorce. The two people would remain good people; good people doing the best thing for their relationship, their offspring and each other. 

I speak as a chap whose ex-missus still works for me, alongside my wife. My wife and my ex get along OK and enjoy a friction-free working relationship. My ex has our daughter if we want an evening out, etc. My wife gets along very well with my teenage son from the previous relationship. It's all a painless example of good people doing good things.  :coffeeread:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 17, 2018, 12:51:32 PM
I speak as a chap whose ex-missus still works for me, alongside my wife. My wife and my ex get along OK and enjoy a friction-free working relationship. My ex has our daughter if we want an evening out, etc. My wife gets along very well with my teenage son from the previous relationship. It's all a painless example of good people doing good things.

I have a friend who has same situation.. there is no way on this planet it would work for me.. I could not see myself sat next to my ex wife and vice versa for the wife..

What about all the sordid secrets and stuff? I think it takes a very different person to work out that situation.. If I was living in the UK my ex wife simply wouldn't even make it as far as the garden path..
Some friends are happy to have the ex wife in for coffee when they take the kids on a Sunday some  not..

No way on this planet if I lived for 1 million years would my ex wife ever set foot in my place..

Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 17, 2018, 02:10:56 PM
I speak as a chap whose ex-missus still works for me, alongside my wife. My wife and my ex get along OK and enjoy a friction-free working relationship. My ex has our daughter if we want an evening out, etc. My wife gets along very well with my teenage son from the previous relationship. It's all a painless example of good people doing good things.

I have a friend who has same situation.. there is no way on this planet it would work for me.. I could not see myself sat next to my ex wife and vice versa for the wife..

What about all the sordid secrets and stuff? I think it takes a very different person to work out that situation.. If I was living in the UK my ex wife simply wouldn't even make it as far as the garden path..
Some friends are happy to have the ex wife in for coffee when they take the kids on a Sunday some  not..

No way on this planet if I lived for 1 million years would my ex wife ever set foot in my place..

Sounds to me Steve, that your sex dungeon and the portable bag of filth catches up with you wherever you go?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 17, 2018, 04:00:26 PM
I speak as a chap whose ex-missus still works for me, alongside my wife. My wife and my ex get along OK and enjoy a friction-free working relationship. My ex has our daughter if we want an evening out, etc. My wife gets along very well with my teenage son from the previous relationship. It's all a painless example of good people doing good things.

I have a friend who has same situation.. there is no way on this planet it would work for me.. I could not see myself sat next to my ex wife and vice versa for the wife..

What about all the sordid secrets and stuff? I think it takes a very different person to work out that situation.. If I was living in the UK my ex wife simply wouldn't even make it as far as the garden path..
Some friends are happy to have the ex wife in for coffee when they take the kids on a Sunday some  not..

No way on this planet if I lived for 1 million years would my ex wife ever set foot in my place..

Sounds to me Steve, that your sex dungeon and the portable bag of filth catches up with you wherever you go?  :popcorn:

Thats the problem!! I couldn't imagine sat next to my wife and ex wife with them both wondering which one got whipped the hardest.. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: dcguyusa on September 17, 2018, 04:45:36 PM
How can you recognise a problem if there isn't one?


Falling out of love within a marriage is a problem. Leads to divorce almost every time. It doesn't happen for no reason. You say the couple is intelligent and have good jobs but it doesn't make either of them marriage material. How about their physical appearance? If one lets their body go, it may not light the fire anymore for the other spouse. Maybe they began to love their work more than each other? Maybe they began to lust for another person? You weren't there during their 23 years of marriage but you talk as if you're an expert witness. You can convince me one of the two was a good spouse who tried to solve why the love within the marriage was diminishing over time but as a unit, they couldn't keep it together and make good things happen.

Contention is usually a big problem.. people get content and life becomes boring.. its easy to fix physical appearance .. boob job, botox .. hair transplant plastic surgery..

Not so easy to fix the thing between your legs if you get problems down there..and humans are only animals  and need sex just like the bunny rabbits in the fields..


I would suggest one of these in the house..its sure to keep some spark going even after 30 years..  :laugh:

(https://scontent.fhel3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41866329_1756816291083934_5687528631190945792_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=180fcfc98fd75a98074f77a5692db464&oe=5C2A1AF3)

In certain states, not being able to "get it up" is grounds for divorce.   :snivel: :pointlaugh:

Some people eventually realize that they don't want to grow old with the other person.  So if the other person ends up in an old folks home or in the emergency room on life support, they don't have to be concerned with the problem (it is not my responsibility).   :biggrin:


Quote
The idea that "you're supposed to meet each other's needs and make each other happy," he said, is "BS."

Quote
Specifically, he called out people who refer to their spouse as their "other half."

https://www.businessinsider.com/bad-relationship-advice-make-your-spouse-happy-2018-9
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: AvHdB on September 17, 2018, 05:01:56 PM
You do know two good people can still divorce right?


No, two good people make good things happen.

I put it to you Billy that sometimes, if people drift apart as Rosco described, it will be a good thing that a couple amicably divorce. The two people would remain good people; good people doing the best thing for their relationship, their offspring and each other. 

I speak as a chap whose ex-missus still works for me, alongside my wife. My wife and my ex get along OK and enjoy a friction-free working relationship. My ex has our daughter if we want an evening out, etc. My wife gets along very well with my teenage son from the previous relationship. It's all a painless example of good people doing good things.  :coffeeread:

I am with Manny on this. My former wives get along, and at the wedding of my daughter this summer there were no issues in California. My youngest daughter in an University in England stayed with my first wife. They had a grand time together. Afterwards the ceremony we all had a glass of wine and a giggle as well as danced all round.

Our separations ended positively and there were no flying projectiles or screaming scenes. This as opposed to the grooms family where things were tense.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 17, 2018, 06:29:51 PM
I put it to you Billy that sometimes, if people drift apart as Rosco described, it will be a good thing that a couple amicably divorce.


If a divorce is to happen, amicable is the way to go.

People drift apart but if they drifted apart, one or both spouses failed to perform. If one partner wants to make changes to improve the marriage and stop the drifting apart but the other doesn't, divorce happens.

We work at work to make the company grow. We work at marriage to make the marriage grow. We work at raising kids to make them grow up right. When we stop making an effort at any one of those tasks or fail to perform satisfactory, bad things happen. Drifting apart happens. Not performing at work happens. It doesn't happen over night. It's a slow process that should've been corrected when identified.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 18, 2018, 02:32:30 AM
I speak as a chap whose ex-missus still works for me, alongside my wife. My wife and my ex get along OK and enjoy a friction-free working relationship. My ex has our daughter if we want an evening out, etc. My wife gets along very well with my teenage son from the previous relationship. It's all a painless example of good people doing good things.

I have a friend who has same situation.. there is no way on this planet it would work for me.. I could not see myself sat next to my ex wife and vice versa for the wife..

What about all the sordid secrets and stuff? I think it takes a very different person to work out that situation.. If I was living in the UK my ex wife simply wouldn't even make it as far as the garden path..
Some friends are happy to have the ex wife in for coffee when they take the kids on a Sunday some  not..

No way on this planet if I lived for 1 million years would my ex wife ever set foot in my place..

Sounds to me Steve, that your sex dungeon and the portable bag of filth catches up with you wherever you go?  :popcorn:

Thats the problem!! I couldn't imagine sat next to my wife and ex wife with them both wondering which one got whipped the hardest.. :chuckle:

 :ROFL:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 18, 2018, 02:36:16 AM
Amicable to the side.. nothing wrong with that..

But I never understand the few couples who for example will go out to dinner with the ex wife and new husband .... why on earth would you want to go out for the evening with your wife.. and your ex wife and her husband??

For what possible reason could anyone want to do this? And what sort of mentality does this? Its not normal for sure!!

For example you get divorced from your wife.. either on good terms or bad terms either way it really doesn't matter.. BUT then you decide to go find yourself a Russian wife.. nothing wrong with that either..

But please don't tell me your ex wife would ever be happy for you going to Russia to find your next wife?? NOOOOOO never.. YOU know what she will be thinking about you?? And if you don't your a fool!

She will be thinking (She may not be saying if she wants to remain amicable) What a twat going to Russia to find a Russian bitch! who just wants his money (If he has money) .. that is fact!!! Please don't say this is not true ..

Lets face it if you pick yourself up a Russian women after a divorce many of your friends will think your maybe a little un normal , if you know what I mean..they certainly thought I was weird in my village popping off to Russia. all the time..

So we all know exactly what the ex wife will be thinking?? (Even if she wants to remain amicable) she WILL BE THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES!

And what exactly will she be thinking when your out to dinner with your ex wife and husband.. and your ex wife sees you just bought your new Russian wife some Jimmy Choo shoes?

You know what she will be thinking!!! ? Stupid Russian ****** Yes its true!! So please don't say your ex wife will be sat next to you thinking anything different?

So she may wish to stay friends for there SAKE of the children and keep the divorce amicable ..

BUT you know what she will really be thinking??

So for this reason why on earth would you ever want to sit working next to your ex wife or even going out for dinner with her and her new husband?? ???







Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 18, 2018, 02:43:37 AM
I put it to you Billy that sometimes, if people drift apart as Rosco described, it will be a good thing that a couple amicably divorce.


If a divorce is to happen, amicable is the way to go.

People drift apart but if they drifted apart, one or both spouses failed to perform. If one partner wants to make changes to improve the marriage and stop the drifting apart but the other doesn't, divorce happens.

We work at work to make the company grow. We work at marriage to make the marriage grow. We work at raising kids to make them grow up right. When we stop making an effort at any one of those tasks or fail to perform satisfactory, bad things happen. Drifting apart happens. Not performing at work happens. It doesn't happen over night. It's a slow process that should've been corrected when identified.

 :'(

Billy, working hard to grow a business isn't the same as working at a marriage. Have you never had a date or a girlfriend where you do all the leg work and go above and beyond, yet still cant win their love? A woman isn't a job, that you just need to put hours into.

I already conceded that in some relationships, neglect in any form can break down the marriage. Equally some people put up with it and live a lifetime of mediocrity but they accept it. What I'm trying very hard to explain to you is that its not exclusive. Let me ak you a question, are you the same person now that you were 30 years ago? Do you want the same stuff, eat the same things, prefer to holiday the same way? No you don't.

Sadly people can grow apart naturally and at this point you have two options;

1) Stay together because life is ok and you have a deep history with someone you respect and care for. You may also have a family and any deviation from this plan would have a knock on affect to those close to you.

2) Take the massive step and agree to split, which is much easier when you're both on the same page. When you're at this stage, spending more time together or buying flowers doesn't change anything.

The heart wants what the heart wants and I'm starting to wonder if this is something you're scared of. Will your wife be the same person in 20 years?
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: dcguyusa on September 18, 2018, 06:08:53 PM
Amicable to the side.. nothing wrong with that..

But I never understand the few couples who for example will go out to dinner with the ex wife and new husband .... why on earth would you want to go out for the evening with your wife.. and your ex wife and her husband??

For what possible reason could anyone want to do this? And what sort of mentality does this? Its not normal for sure!!

For example you get divorced from your wife.. either on good terms or bad terms either way it really doesn't matter.. BUT then you decide to go find yourself a Russian wife.. nothing wrong with that either..

But please don't tell me your ex wife would ever be happy for you going to Russia to find your next wife?? NOOOOOO never.. YOU know what she will be thinking about you?? And if you don't your a fool!

She will be thinking (She may not be saying if she wants to remain amicable) What a *snip* going to Russia to find a Russian bitch! who just wants his money (If he has money) .. that is fact!!! Please don't say this is not true ..

Lets face it if you pick yourself up a Russian women after a divorce many of your friends will think your maybe a little un normal , if you know what I mean..they certainly thought I was weird in my village popping off to Russia. all the time..

So we all know exactly what the ex wife will be thinking?? (Even if she wants to remain amicable) she WILL BE THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES!

And what exactly will she be thinking when your out to dinner with your ex wife and husband.. and your ex wife sees you just bought your new Russian wife some Jimmy Choo shoes?

You know what she will be thinking!!! ? Stupid Russian ****** Yes its true!! So please don't say your ex wife will be sat next to you thinking anything different?

So she may wish to stay friends for there SAKE of the children and keep the divorce amicable ..

BUT you know what she will really be thinking??

So for this reason why on earth would you ever want to sit working next to your ex wife or even going out for dinner with her and her new husband?? ???

You can't see the subliminal message in doing this?    :laugh:   It is to see who the other person's life is with after the split.  Let's compare with each other where we are at after having spent a prior life. I have this person now instead of you. Maybe better or perhaps MUCH better.   :ROFL:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 18, 2018, 07:47:23 PM

Have you never had a date or a girlfriend where you do all the leg work and go above and beyond, yet still cant win their love? A woman isn't a job, that you just need to put hours into.


A marriage isn't a date. A wife isn't a girlfriend. Love was earned and established before marriage. Maintaining it and making it grow takes work. Of course many men pursuing international women marry them before love is established.

The heart wants what the heart wants and I'm starting to wonder if this is something you're scared of. Will your wife be the same person in 20 years?


Some people know my history of dating. I will always be surrounded by quality women or at a minimum, beautiful women. Women in my life, including my wife, are free leave me if they wish. I don't control them but I can control myself and I will always be happy with as much female attention as I want.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 18, 2018, 11:50:12 PM

Have you never had a date or a girlfriend where you do all the leg work and go above and beyond, yet still cant win their love? A woman isn't a job, that you just need to put hours into.


A marriage isn't a date. A wife isn't a girlfriend. Love was earned and established before marriage. Maintaining it and making it grow takes work. Of course many men pursuing international women marry them before love is established.

The heart wants what the heart wants and I'm starting to wonder if this is something you're scared of. Will your wife be the same person in 20 years?




Some people know my history of dating. I will always be surrounded by quality women or at a minimum, beautiful women. Women in my life, including my wife, are free leave me if they wish. I don't control them but I can control myself and I will always be happy with as much female attention as I want.

So your the Hugh Hefner of the FSU women dating niche? Is that what your saying? :laugh:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: andrewfi on September 18, 2018, 11:55:14 PM
No, what he is really saying is that he went through years of rejection. To his credit he was as persistent as a puppy that humps your leg and eventually found a woman with a young daughter she needed to get fixed up. The rest is history.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 19, 2018, 09:54:02 AM

Have you never had a date or a girlfriend where you do all the leg work and go above and beyond, yet still cant win their love? A woman isn't a job, that you just need to put hours into.


A marriage isn't a date. A wife isn't a girlfriend. Love was earned and established before marriage. Maintaining it and making it grow takes work. Of course many men pursuing international women marry them before love is established.

The heart wants what the heart wants and I'm starting to wonder if this is something you're scared of. Will your wife be the same person in 20 years?


Some people know my history of dating. I will always be surrounded by quality women or at a minimum, beautiful women. Women in my life, including my wife, are free leave me if they wish. I don't control them but I can control myself and I will always be happy with as much female attention as I want.

Have you heard that some people live out 'married' lives without actually being married? Do you need to have a socially/ritually/legally recognised union before Billy can accept love existing? Is this another Billyism?

Anyway, you have an answer for everything and choose to ignore (possibly deliberately) the facts of the discussion. This is pointless Billy.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 19, 2018, 07:13:52 PM
Have you heard that some people live out 'married' lives without actually being married? Do you need to have a socially/ritually/legally recognised union before Billy can accept love existing? Is this another Billyism?

Anyway, you have an answer for everything and choose to ignore (possibly deliberately) the facts of the discussion. This is pointless Billy.

Your first post talks about marriage and divorce and now you talk about not being married. Later we talk about wives and you bring in girlfriends. Pick one category and stick with it.

Like the title says, "Two good people make good things happen". If you think two good people make bad things happen, you're not making a very good case.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: msmoby on September 19, 2018, 11:14:11 PM


Some people know my history of dating. I will always be surrounded by quality women or at a minimum, beautiful women. Women in my life, including my wife, are free leave me if they wish. I don't control them but I can control myself and I will always be happy with as much female attention as I want.

This is total CRAP.. Silly BillyB speaks of love and if his wife leaves him- 'there'll be another along' - ..WHO can truly love someone and believe him ? 

Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 20, 2018, 05:32:35 AM
No, what he is really saying is that he went through years of rejection. To his credit he was as persistent as a puppy that humps your leg and eventually found a woman with a young daughter she needed to get fixed up. The rest is history.

I bet she has to leave the keys and cards on the table after an argument..  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 20, 2018, 07:51:08 AM
Have you heard that some people live out 'married' lives without actually being married? Do you need to have a socially/ritually/legally recognised union before Billy can accept love existing? Is this another Billyism?

Anyway, you have an answer for everything and choose to ignore (possibly deliberately) the facts of the discussion. This is pointless Billy.

Your first post talks about marriage and divorce and now you talk about not being married. Later we talk about wives and you bring in girlfriends. Pick one category and stick with it.

Like the title says, "Two good people make good things happen". If you think two good people make bad things happen, you're not making a very good case.

I make no apology for you being confused and it only confirms what sort of bloke, I had you pegged for.

I’m at a loss as to how we’re supposed to converse, when you can’t get out of first gear.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: msmoby on September 20, 2018, 09:39:21 AM

No, what he is really saying is that he went through years of rejection. To his credit he was as persistent as a puppy that humps your leg and eventually found a woman with a young daughter she needed to get fixed up. The rest is history.


Once again, our perennially single 'expert' in relationships is passing comment on those of others and cannot see how amusing / ironic it is ...





Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Contrarian on September 20, 2018, 07:23:30 PM
No, what he is really saying is that he went through years of rejection. To his credit he was as persistent as a puppy that humps your leg and eventually found a woman with a young daughter she needed to get fixed up. The rest is history.

What? So he found a middle aged woman but dated her young daughter instead?

 :ROFL: 
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 20, 2018, 09:11:57 PM

I make no apology for you being confused and it only confirms what sort of bloke, I had you pegged for.

I’m at a loss as to how we’re supposed to converse, when you can’t get out of first gear.

I'll make it simple for you. Ask your wife if divorce is bad or good. She will educate you that divorce is bad.

So when you say two good people can divorce, you are saying two good people can do bad things. That is wrong.

The divorce couple you say had 23 years of marriage are two good people although you don't know anything about their marriage.

Divorce isn't good but divorce may be the best thing for two people who let their marriage deteriorate and/or refuse to get along.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: msmoby on September 20, 2018, 11:57:24 PM


I'll make it simple for you. Ask your wife if divorce is bad or good. She will educate you that divorce is bad.

So when you say two good people can divorce, you are saying two good people can do bad things. That is wrong.

The divorce couple you say had 23 years of marriage are two good people although you don't know anything about their marriage.

Divorce isn't good but divorce may be the best thing for two people who let their marriage deteriorate and/or refuse to get along.

Silly, Silly, BillyB

Don't forget to tell Rosco that IF / When your wife leaves you - that - like a bus - other Wife be be along ... that you won't be 'bovvered'

Your own 'advice' conflicts... 

One minute you're suggesting folks should 'fight' to save a marriage and the next you're suggesting you'll shrug your shoulders , sigh and say, "NEXT" ...







Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Contrarian on September 21, 2018, 12:07:29 AM

I make no apology for you being confused and it only confirms what sort of bloke, I had you pegged for.

I’m at a loss as to how we’re supposed to converse, when you can’t get out of first gear.
I'll make it simple for you. Ask your wife if divorce is bad or good. She will educate you that divorce is bad.

So when you say two good people can divorce, you are saying two good people can do bad things. That is wrong.

The divorce couple you say had 23 years of marriage are two good people although you don't know anything about their marriage.

Divorce isn't good but divorce may be the best thing for two people who let their marriage deteriorate and/or refuse to get along.


I have a simple prediction here: Billy’s marriage won’t last 23 years.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 21, 2018, 04:57:02 AM
So when you say two good people can divorce, you are saying two good people can do bad things. That is wrong.

Christ almighty.......what's wrong with you Billy? I think even my dog understands that, which you cannot.

You've got the mind of a child. This interviews over.

 :'(
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 21, 2018, 07:18:34 AM

I make no apology for you being confused and it only confirms what sort of bloke, I had you pegged for.

I’m at a loss as to how we’re supposed to converse, when you can’t get out of first gear.

I'll make it simple for you. Ask your wife if divorce is bad or good. She will educate you that divorce is bad.

So when you say two good people can divorce, you are saying two good people can do bad things. That is wrong.

The divorce couple you say had 23 years of marriage are two good people although you don't know anything about their marriage.

Divorce isn't good but divorce may be the best thing for two people who let their marriage deteriorate and/or refuse to get along.


or refuse to get along.. Is it possible to explain what this means exactly?
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: AvHdB on September 21, 2018, 07:48:21 AM
I bet she has to leave the keys and cards on the table after an argument..  :ROFL:

We will hope all weapons have trigger locks attached.    :-X
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 21, 2018, 06:36:06 PM
or refuse to get along.. Is it possible to explain what this means exactly?


Refusing to get along means refusing to get along. One person wants to work on the marriage and the other doesn't. Maybe both people don't care about working on the marriage.

Christ almighty.......what's wrong with you Billy? I think even my dog understands that, which you cannot.

You've got the mind of a child. This interviews over.

 :'(

You're sounding like Moby. Disagree on everything. Get all emotional. Insult. Can anybody here debate like a mature person or does many shout and pout when they don't like what their hearing?

Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 22, 2018, 12:28:59 AM
or refuse to get along.. Is it possible to explain what this means exactly?


Refusing to get along means refusing to get along. One person wants to work on the marriage and the other doesn't. Maybe both people don't care about working on the marriage.

Christ almighty.......what's wrong with you Billy? I think even my dog understands that, which you cannot.

You've got the mind of a child. This interviews over.

 :'(

You're sounding like Moby. Disagree on everything. Get all emotional. Insult. Can anybody here debate like a mature person or does many shout and pout when they don't like what their hearing?

or refuse to get along  But maybe your wife Doesn't want to get on.. maybe she's sick and tired of an ass hole husband..you think she should still try to get along? Or maybe sent to a therapist to be brainwashed into thinking she MUST get along.. :laugh:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Contrarian on September 22, 2018, 12:34:56 AM
or refuse to get along.. Is it possible to explain what this means exactly?


Refusing to get along means refusing to get along. One person wants to work on the marriage and the other doesn't. Maybe both people don't care about working on the marriage.

Christ almighty.......what's wrong with you Billy? I think even my dog understands that, which you cannot.

You've got the mind of a child. This interviews over.

 :'(

You're sounding like Moby. Disagree on everything. Get all emotional. Insult. Can anybody here debate like a mature person or does many shout and pout when they don't like what their hearing?

or refuse to get along  But maybe your wife Doesn't want to get on.. maybe she's sick and tired of an ass hole husband..you think she should still try to get along? Or maybe sent to a therapist to be brainwashed into thinking she MUST get along.. :laugh:


She’ll get along all right. She’ll find some young stud closer to her age with a real sword not some dufus who’s never taken fencing holding something so heavy that by the time he got it in position his opponent would have sliced him to pieces.  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 22, 2018, 12:36:51 AM
or refuse to get along.. Is it possible to explain what this means exactly?


Refusing to get along means refusing to get along. One person wants to work on the marriage and the other doesn't. Maybe both people don't care about working on the marriage.

Christ almighty.......what's wrong with you Billy? I think even my dog understands that, which you cannot.

You've got the mind of a child. This interviews over.

 :'(

You're sounding like Moby. Disagree on everything. Get all emotional. Insult. Can anybody here debate like a mature person or does many shout and pout when they don't like what their hearing?

or refuse to get along  But maybe your wife Doesn't want to get on.. maybe she's sick and tired of an ass hole husband..you think she should still try to get along? Or maybe sent to a therapist to be brainwashed into thinking she MUST get along.. :laugh:


She’ll get along all right. She’ll find some young stud closer to her age with a real sword not some dufus who’s never taken fencing holding something so heavy that by the time he got it in position his opponent would have sliced him to pieces.  :ROFL:

 :laugh: :laugh: :party0031:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: AvHdB on September 22, 2018, 12:58:48 AM
Just a guess, but I suspect BillyB can keep his wife happy, both vertically and horizontally.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 22, 2018, 02:56:07 AM
Just a guess, but I suspect BillyB can keep his wife happy, both vertically and horizontally.

Probably got her tied up down in the basement..

(https://scontent.fhel3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/42250775_1762260290539534_4732410917688442880_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&oh=9aaaff5944bdc279a45ba7f029bae551&oe=5C1875E7)
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: AvHdB on September 22, 2018, 06:37:58 AM
This is becoming tasteless.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Mr strange on September 22, 2018, 09:56:51 AM
Sorry agree but the whole quality and value is going in that direction.

Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Chickenbrah on September 22, 2018, 06:22:44 PM
or refuse to get along.. Is it possible to explain what this means exactly?


Refusing to get along means refusing to get along. One person wants to work on the marriage and the other doesn't. Maybe both people don't care about working on the marriage.

Christ almighty.......what's wrong with you Billy? I think even my dog understands that, which you cannot.

You've got the mind of a child. This interviews over.

 :'(

You're sounding like Moby. Disagree on everything. Get all emotional. Insult. Can anybody here debate like a mature person or does many shout and pout when they don't like what their hearing?

or refuse to get along  But maybe your wife Doesn't want to get on.. maybe she's sick and tired of an ass hole husband..you think she should still try to get along? Or maybe sent to a therapist to be brainwashed into thinking she MUST get along.. :laugh:


She’ll get along all right. She’ll find some young stud closer to her age with a real sword not some dufus who’s never taken fencing holding something so heavy that by the time he got it in position his opponent would have sliced him to pieces.  :ROFL:


This in a nutshell....... Billy's wife is in her young 20's, and tells him she does not like sex, but does it as it is her duty as a wife. As a guy who dates women her age in FSU and the west (multiple countries), LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL at her response. Obviously something is very wrong, she clearly is not attracted to the fellow. Once she is established in life, billy will be on the hunt for a new FSU woman.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: AvHdB on September 22, 2018, 08:55:34 PM
While we may have opinions and thoughts of partners and relationships as a sort of unwritten 'rule' of RUA we do not go there.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 22, 2018, 10:47:07 PM
This is becoming tasteless.

I'm okay with people showing their true colors. Normally they'd have a broken nose and missing teeth in the real world for their behavior but the internet and sitting behind a monitor affords them protection. TV teaches us men who enter into the Mail Order Bride industry are losers. That stereotype isn't true but there are some out there that prove TV right.


Two good people make good things happen. I still can't figure out why it got some people really upset.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 22, 2018, 10:56:08 PM
This in a nutshell....... Billy's wife is in her young 20's, and tells him she does not like sex, but does it as it is her duty as a wife. As a guy who dates women her age in FSU and the west (multiple countries), LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL at her response. Obviously something is very wrong, she clearly is not attracted to the fellow.


You sound like a punk kid. You immature post reminds me of a guy named Dragonkid who got banned on another forum. So you decided to join this forum with a clever name to discourage them from banning you? Brilliant

Once she is established in life, billy will be on the hunt for a new FSU woman.

Once she is established in life she's going to leave me?

FSU women on forums like this said my wife is the most beautiful of all wives they seen married to foreign men. My wife is more beautiful than the 99% of the wives of movies stars, billionaires, and powerful men. She can easily find a well to do man. She doesn't need to be established in life to leave me. She can leave right now and be living very comfortable.

Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Chickenbrah on September 23, 2018, 05:49:52 AM
This in a nutshell....... Billy's wife is in her young 20's, and tells him she does not like sex, but does it as it is her duty as a wife. As a guy who dates women her age in FSU and the west (multiple countries), LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL at her response. Obviously something is very wrong, she clearly is not attracted to the fellow.


You sound like a punk kid. You immature post reminds me of a guy named Dragonkid who got banned on another forum. So you decided to join this forum with a clever name to discourage them from banning you? Brilliant

Once she is established in life, billy will be on the hunt for a new FSU woman.

Once she is established in life she's going to leave me?

FSU women on forums like this said my wife is the most beautiful of all wives they seen married to foreign men. My wife is more beautiful than the 99% of the wives of movies stars, billionaires, and powerful men. She can easily find a well to do man. She doesn't need to be established in life to leave me. She can leave right now and be living very comfortable.

I seen photos of your wife, she is good, but not as good as you say. As a guy who knows owmen like your wifes age, some prettier, she will have offers yes, serious guys willing to marry her so her mother can gain entry in the west? After sometime dating , then maybe, not all western men are naive enough to marry a woman half his age, pay for her college fees, buy her a car, only for her to upload photos with none of them in, and take trips back to ukraine alone. Reason why some of the guys here as you claim did not marry women are pretty as your wife, is because they were thinking with their heads, and not to inflate their ego. We will see though. Anyways i don't want to keep at this, i said my piece, you defended yourself, time will tell. I have better things to do than play a back and forth game with you.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: andrewfi on September 23, 2018, 10:38:49 AM
Ooer, any relationship where one of the partners has sex with the other out of duty is, in my opinion, not in a good place.

Of course, sometimes, I will have sex with my partner(s) for her pleasure and because she wants it more than I do. But if one of us was doing so habitually then I'd think that the relationship was either drawing to a close or existed for some reason that was outside of the normal gamut of reasons for a couple to be together. Neither case would fill me with glee.

Billy, have you yet imported your mother in law? If not, when is she due to arrive? If she is in the USA, is she now relatively independent of you and your wife?
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 23, 2018, 11:16:53 AM
pay for her college fees, buy her a car,


Why's that a problem for you? First of all, it's not your money. Second, it's about being a responsible husband. Some guys take care of a wife. Other guys bring a wife over and expect her to take care of herself and him. Go figure.

We will see though. Anyways i don't want to keep at this, i said my piece, you defended yourself, time will tell.


Over the years, I've had to listen to dumb asses like you who make a prediction on my marriage. You even make predictions on other people you don't like marriages. You say my wife will leave me, she doesn't like me, she doesn't want to have sex with me, she is using me for a green card or is a gold digger or I'm a controlling jerk and the END is near. You guys make these predictions as if you control the truth.

You don't like what BillyB says on the internet so you make a prediction that my marriage won't last. You figure if you don't like me, how can anybody else like me?

Ooer, any relationship where one of the partners has sex with the other out of duty is, in my opinion, not in a good place.


A good marriage is about fulfilling duties and is pleasurable. Just like you said, you will have sex with your partner if she wants it more than you do. Maybe you're not in the mood at the time but making her wish come true brings you pleasure.

Fulfilling responsibilities is a good thing. My wife hates doing dishes but she's doing that as a duty to me. I see no problem with that. I take care of her in other ways. I see no problem with that. We don't have a 50/50 marriage. She has her responsibilities and I have mine. No schedule on who's turn it is to wash the dishes or mow the lawn. We know our jobs and we know who to blame if the job doesn't get done.


Billy, have you yet imported your mother in law? If not, when is she due to arrive? If she is in the USA, is she now relatively independent of you and your wife?

Wife is an American citizen. MIL lives with us more than she lives in Ukraine. She's not fully independent from us but she makes money and acts as our housekeeper. She manages our properties back in Ukraine. She pulls her weight more than I expect a MIL to pull.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Chickenbrah on September 23, 2018, 03:40:30 PM
I have no issues with you taking care of your wife, i am just stating the incentives she had to marry you, many of won't be matched by other men unless they believe she is sincere. Men are not as daft as you. My comments are not because i dislike you, they are just what i see, and from a logical standpoint. Lastly you are dodging the fact that you have stated in the past that your wife dislikes have SEX with you and views SEX as a DUTY. This has nothing to do with washing the dishes, stop trying to blind other people from the comments you have made. Best of luck.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 23, 2018, 06:44:16 PM
My comments are not because i dislike you, they are just what i see, and from a logical standpoint


Amazing the amount of wise men we have on the internet. Never observed relationships or even met people but feel they are qualified to announce what they've seen.

Folks, the quote above comes from a guy who's never been married.

Lastly you are dodging the fact that you have stated in the past that your wife dislikes have SEX with you and views SEX as a DUTY.


Dodging a comment must be true to you. So when I said you're Dragonkid from another forum, it must be true since you avoided addressing my comment. Reading someone's writings is like hearing them speak. I can recognize the person writings or voice without seeing them.

Confederate doesn't think my marriage is going to last forever and Steveboy thinks my wife is tied down in the basement. I ignored those comments. Doesn't mean they're true. I just don't have time to address all the fake news on the internet. My take is some losers are going to believe them regardless what I say just like they will believe you.

You made the claim I stated in the past my wife doesn't like sex with me. The burden of proof lies with you. Show everybody a link to where I said that. You're lying to everybody including yourself. You have a handful of posts on this forum and it was easy for me to prove you're not trustworthy. You will trade any ounce of credibility you have to spread falsehoods about my life sounds dumb. What's the prize? What do you get out of it?

Are you still stating in your profile you have a masters degree although you didn't earn one? Whatever it takes to get into girls pants, eh?

Best of luck.

Save your wishes of luck for yourself. Since a girl never made the ultimate commitment you, you need luck. I don't rely on luck to get through life. Meeting a quality woman like my wife is normal for me. I did it before her and I can do it after. Married or single, I will always have a woman/women in my life other men will envy.



Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: AvHdB on September 23, 2018, 11:59:03 PM
I suspect dragon kid elsewhere is known as chickenbrah on RUA.

His postings (verbiage & syntax) show a similarity in style to Do Not Ban Me.

Chickenbrah clearly has/had some issues.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Steveboy on September 24, 2018, 04:58:53 AM
I suspect dragon kid elsewhere is known as chickenbrah on RUA.

His postings (verbiage & syntax) show a similarity in style to Do Not Ban Me.

Chickenbrah clearly has/had some issues.


Very good Sherlock  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 24, 2018, 06:07:18 AM
I remember Chickenbra. He was the vain little middle eastern bloke, who was insecure about everything, had nothing yet told us how ripped he was going to be for his visit abroad. He'd then post an embarrassing series of juvenile WhatsApp messages, proving his conversations with people. He also used to post semi naked pictures of himself marked for the attention of a largely male dominated board, that always seemed a bit gay. Gutted we lost him.

And I need to ask something to the other Americans on here.

Meeting a quality woman like my wife is normal for me. I did it before her and I can do it after. Married or single, I will always have a woman/women in my life other men will envy.

Do you guys respect people who talk like this, is it normal chatter? In the UK you'd get ripped apart either for being an arrogant sod that would happily eat themselves if they got half a chance, or for being an arsehole.

I don't know or plan to ever get to know William B but I doubt quite a lot of what he writes. It doesn't really change anything but I'm just putting that out there.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: yankee on September 24, 2018, 06:36:49 AM
I remember Chickenbra. He was the vain little middle eastern bloke, who was insecure about everything, had nothing yet told us how ripped he was going to be for his visit abroad. He'd then post an embarrassing series of juvenile WhatsApp messages, proving his conversations with people. He also used to post semi naked pictures of himself marked for the attention of a largely male dominated board, that always seemed a bit gay. Gutted we lost him.

And I need to ask something to the other Americans on here.

Meeting a quality woman like my wife is normal for me. I did it before her and I can do it after. Married or single, I will always have a woman/women in my life other men will envy.

Do you guys respect people who talk like this, is it normal chatter? In the UK you'd get ripped apart either for being an arrogant sod that would happily eat themselves if they got half a chance, or for being an arsehole.

I don't know or plan to ever get to know William B but I doubt quite a lot of what he writes. It doesn't really change anything but I'm just putting that out there.

I see him as someone that is terribly insecure.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 24, 2018, 06:41:14 AM
I suspect dragon kid elsewhere is known as chickenbrah on RUA.

His postings (verbiage & syntax) show a similarity in style to Do Not Ban Me.

Chickenbrah clearly has/had some issues.


He has multiple accounts here. He has multiple accounts elsewhere.

And I need to ask something to the other Americans on here.

Meeting a quality woman like my wife is normal for me. I did it before her and I can do it after. Married or single, I will always have a woman/women in my life other men will envy.

Do you guys respect people who talk like this, is it normal chatter?


People aren't stupid. You never respected me even before I wrote that. So now you make a comment hoping other people can jump on your bandwagon. Try focusing on what is posted instead of focusing on the poster. You have a hard on for me and it's noticeable.

There's a difference between bragging and helping educate people who rely on luck to find a woman. Men need to get themselves into a place where they attract the best women, not just any woman. If a guy isn't in that place, he needs to work on himself to get to that place. Men who need to fix themselves are highly likely to be offended by what I said. Their loss, not mine. Men who have an easy time attracting quality women don't get offended.

Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 24, 2018, 06:56:27 AM
I see him as someone that is terribly insecure.


That makes two people's feelings hurt by what I said. I wish every guy could say it.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 24, 2018, 08:27:14 AM
You have a hard on for me......

At least we're now getting to the bottom of it Willy. This statement alone starts to make sense of the other stuff, like your ability to attract Hollywood 10 models at the drop of a hat and the seemingly envious men who can only dream about being as successful, manly and alpha as you.

Without wanting to burst your bubble, none of that rings true. I don't particularly enjoy your posts because you sound like someone who's trying really hard to portray success for strangers on the internet, for some unknown and possibly unhealthy reason. I also don't agree with your views on US foreign policy, the wars you lot start around the globe and the celebration of innocent people dying. See we're back to the ignorance thing again.

I'm not even a fan of your thumbnail. I see a silly, chubby little middle aged man with a poor hair cut, holding a stick and pretending to fight nobody for a camera shot - whilst telling us how easy he has it with premium grade ladies.

In fact, this is better than I thought.  :coffeeread:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Contrarian on September 24, 2018, 09:00:13 AM
This is becoming tasteless.

I'm okay with people showing their true colors. Normally they'd have a broken nose and missing teeth in the real world for their behavior but the internet and sitting behind a monitor affords them protection. TV teaches us men who enter into the Mail Order Bride industry are losers. That stereotype isn't true but there are some out there that prove TV right.


Two good people make good things happen. I still can't figure out why it got some people really upset.


So Billy you’re really just an angry man who resorts to violence when you can’t force your arrogant views on others; got it.

Is it just me or does anyone else see the irony of Billy claiming we’re hiding behind the internet? Yes partially true however I see three pages of Billy provoking not only Rosco but actually the hundreds of thousands or possibly millions of couples who’ve divorced, yet done it in an amiable way and still loved and provided for their children.

We’ve been told here that they’re “not good people”. I don’t like the idea of divorce either but it certainly does happen and what’s key I believe is mutual respect, a fair division of assets but especially care, love and material support for any offspring.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Manny on September 24, 2018, 12:08:03 PM
DoNotBanMe and Chickenbrah are one and the same person. Duplicate accounts are not allowed. The account DoNotBanMe has been merged with Chickenbrah.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Wiz on September 24, 2018, 12:52:09 PM
You have a hard on for me......

At least we're now getting to the bottom of it Willy. This statement alone starts to make sense of the other stuff, like your ability to attract Hollywood 10 models at the drop of a hat and the seemingly envious men who can only dream about being as successful, manly and alpha as you.

Without wanting to burst your bubble, none of that rings true. I don't particularly enjoy your posts because you sound like someone who's trying really hard to portray success for strangers on the internet, for some unknown and possibly unhealthy reason. I also don't agree with your views on US foreign policy, the wars you lot start around the globe and the celebration of innocent people dying. See we're back to the ignorance thing again.

I'm not even a fan of your thumbnail. I see a silly, chubby little middle aged man with a poor hair cut, holding a stick and pretending to fight nobody for a camera shot - whilst telling us how easy he has it with premium grade ladies.

In fact, this is better than I thought.  :coffeeread:

Wrong there "Rosco"...... as far as I remember Billy ..... has been looking over his shoulder, afraid of an attach .. on his life from his nightmare ... "Ho Chi Minh".

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Ho_Chi_Minh_1946.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl8nLNPkSwI

That is why he needs a beautiful woman on his side....for destraction ..... and to feel big and large in real life.....  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on September 24, 2018, 06:15:14 PM
I also don't agree with your views on US foreign policy, the wars you lot start around the globe and the celebration of innocent people dying.


No wonder you're upset with every little thing I say. Silly reason to be upset with "Two good people make good things happen." I guess everything I say now will upset you. You're one of the senior members of this forum. Take care of this forum. Don't turn it into a shit show every time someone says something you don't like. Grow up.

you can’t force your arrogant views on others;


How many pages and days of your life did you contribute to the 9/11 thread trying to convince people there's a conspiracy?

Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Guile on September 24, 2018, 06:54:47 PM
ah dragonfly or kid...i remember that punk.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Contrarian on September 24, 2018, 08:25:22 PM
I also don't agree with your views on US foreign policy, the wars you lot start around the globe and the celebration of innocent people dying.


No wonder you're upset with every little thing I say. Silly reason to be upset with "Two good people make good things happen." I guess everything I say now will upset you. You're one of the senior members of this forum. Take care of this forum. Don't turn it into a shit show every time someone says something you don't like. Grow up.

you can’t force your arrogant views on others;


How many pages and days of your life did you contribute to the 9/11 thread trying to convince people there's a conspiracy?


The truth will always come out in the end and justice will prevail. People can read and decide for themselves.

You started the thread back in 2007 attempting to discredit truth seekers and your desire to bully honest people has backfired.

I see you’ve wasted 11 years of your life pushing the bogus conspiracy theories proffered by the likes of war profiteer Cheney.

 :trainwreck:

Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 25, 2018, 02:47:42 AM
How many pages and days of your life did you contribute to the 9/11 thread trying to convince people there's a conspiracy?

Virtually zero. I may have chimed in a few years back but that thread doesn't do much for me. I recall my contribution back then, supported the official explanation.

Willy, there's a big difference between being upset and disagreeing with what you write. Believe it or not but I have nothing against you other than your thirst for war, your wish to control women with fear and your ignorant views on divorce. You're a bit of a John McCain type character.

Sadly there's a high probability that this is everything we've ever debated.

If you write sensible stuff then I'll have your back in a debate. It's pretty simple. I don't care about you enough to get upset matey.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Contrarian on September 25, 2018, 08:25:31 AM
How many pages and days of your life did you contribute to the 9/11 thread trying to convince people there's a conspiracy?

Virtually zero. I may have chimed in a few years back but that thread doesn't do much for me. I recall my contribution back then, supported the official explanation.

Willy, there's a big difference between being upset and disagreeing with what you write. Believe it or not but I have nothing against you other than your thirst for war, your wish to control women with fear and your ignorant views on divorce. You're a bit of a John McCain type character.

Sadly there's a high probability that this is everything we've ever debated.

If you write sensible stuff then I'll have your back in a debate. It's pretty simple. I don't care about you enough to get upset matey.


He was referring to me on the 9/11 discussion. I think you’re a smart guy and you should revisit the subject. Start with the book “The War on Terror: The Plot to rule the Middle East” by Christopher Boleyn.

If you promised to read it with an open mind I’d ship it to you for Christmas.  :chuckle:


Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: rosco on September 25, 2018, 08:28:59 AM
How many pages and days of your life did you contribute to the 9/11 thread trying to convince people there's a conspiracy?

Virtually zero. I may have chimed in a few years back but that thread doesn't do much for me. I recall my contribution back then, supported the official explanation.

Willy, there's a big difference between being upset and disagreeing with what you write. Believe it or not but I have nothing against you other than your thirst for war, your wish to control women with fear and your ignorant views on divorce. You're a bit of a John McCain type character.

Sadly there's a high probability that this is everything we've ever debated.

If you write sensible stuff then I'll have your back in a debate. It's pretty simple. I don't care about you enough to get upset matey.


He was referring to me on the 9/11 discussion. I think you’re a smart guy and you should revisit the subject. Start with the book “The War on Terror: The Plot to rule the Middle East” by Christopher Boleyn.

If you promised to read it with an open mind I’d ship it to you for Christmas.  :chuckle:

 :chuckle:

Yes my mistake.....that's my second one now in 21 years!!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Contrarian on March 25, 2019, 12:12:39 PM

I make no apology for you being confused and it only confirms what sort of bloke, I had you pegged for.

I’m at a loss as to how we’re supposed to converse, when you can’t get out of first gear.

I'll make it simple for you. Ask your wife if divorce is bad or good. She will educate you that divorce is bad.

So when you say two good people can divorce, you are saying two good people can do bad things. That is wrong.

The divorce couple you say had 23 years of marriage are two good people although you don't know anything about their marriage.

Divorce isn't good but divorce may be the best thing for two people who let their marriage deteriorate and/or refuse to get along.

Boom! Here it is!
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Contrarian on March 25, 2019, 12:16:32 PM


I'll make it simple for you. Ask your wife if divorce is bad or good. She will educate you that divorce is bad.

So when you say two good people can divorce, you are saying two good people can do bad things. That is wrong.

The divorce couple you say had 23 years of marriage are two good people although you don't know anything about their marriage.

Divorce isn't good but divorce may be the best thing for two people who let their marriage deteriorate and/or refuse to get along.

Silly, Silly, BillyB

Don't forget to tell Rosco that IF / When your wife leaves you - that - like a bus - other Wife be be along ... that you won't be 'bovvered'

Your own 'advice' conflicts... 

One minute you're suggesting folks should 'fight' to save a marriage and the next you're suggesting you'll shrug your shoulders , sigh and say, "NEXT" ...


Hmmmm...even Moby notes your hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: AvHdB on March 25, 2019, 12:23:26 PM
'Poor morale carachter' is very different from getting a divorce for what ever reason.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Contrarian on March 25, 2019, 12:26:51 PM
'Poor morale carachter' is very different from getting a divorce for what ever reason.

The town drunk still cannot spell nor did he read and comprehend my entire statement.

Go back to your happy hour!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: AvHdB on March 25, 2019, 01:16:23 PM
'Poor morale carachter' is very different from getting a divorce for what ever reason.

The town drunk still cannot spell nor did he read and comprehend my entire statement.

Go back to your happy hour!  :chuckle:

The forum dolt needs to learn English usage.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: dcguyusa on March 25, 2019, 03:53:08 PM
Spelling based on pronunciation can be habit forming.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on March 25, 2019, 04:28:31 PM

Best hold off on celebrating like you won the Superbowl Confederate. I'm still waiting for you to show everyone here where I said all divorced men are of low moral character. What you quoted wasn't a match.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Contrarian on March 25, 2019, 05:21:19 PM

Best hold off on celebrating like you won the Superbowl Confederate. I'm still waiting for you to show everyone here where I said all divorced men are of low moral character. What you quoted wasn't a match.


Don't give up your day job BillyB.  You got caught red-handed being a hypocrite which is why you pretended that you didn't disparage people who got divorces.  Here is precisely what I wrote.  Considering that it's been approximately 6 months since this thread was started I came very close to accurately describing what you wrote, and I put a qualifier on it.  Let's see if you've got the moral courage to admit that you're wrong.  I highly doubt it.  You did indeed imply that people who got a divorce were of poor moral character.  If you don't comprehend what "some such" means, go to a University or a College, or even one of the better High Schools where you live and ask an English teacher what that means.  Meanwhile when Rosco comes back for a visit, it would be very entertaining to hear how he feels about you getting caught being hypocritical.   :chuckle:


Trust me down to earth 7’s are better!


Down to earth 10's are ever better than 7's


You love your wife, which is why you believe she is a 10.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

BTW I thought guys who got a divorce were of “poor moral character” or or some such you wrote.  :laugh:

 :coffeeread:



During divorce proceedings with my first wife of a few years, I asked to retain rights to be a parent to her son from another relationship. He is not my biological son and I didn't adopt him. There is no law on the books that allow me to continue to be his parent after divorce. The court's priority was what is best for the child. We saw a mental health professional in separate meetings over the next few months. The mental health professional said we had a bond and it would be harmful to the child if it was broken. The court granted me the right to be a de facto parent to the child.

During my son's meeting with the mental health professional, my son said he didn't like me and didn't want to be with me. He used some words in ways only an adult would do. The mental health professional knew his mother was coaching him. If you are coaching your kids on what to say, you may be found out and it will be used against you.

Hope you come back and let us know how it turns out in 3 weeks.


Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: msmoby on March 25, 2019, 05:48:26 PM



If you write sensible stuff then I'll have your back in a debate. It's pretty simple. I don't care about you enough to get upset matey.

What, with this and " Wrong for only the second time in 21 years"..I thought you were going for quote of the week..



Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: BillyB on March 25, 2019, 05:50:32 PM

Confederate, why are you depending on Roscoe to back you up? You're all over the place with what you're trying to say. Simply post exactly what I wrote and compare it to you claiming I said all divorced men are of low moral character. Let's discuss since this has been bugging you.

Here's some advice. Russian women don't like men who are drama queens. Get to the point.
Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Contrarian on March 25, 2019, 06:30:20 PM

Confederate, why are you depending on Roscoe to back you up? You're all over the place with what you're trying to say. Simply post exactly what I wrote and compare it to you claiming I said all divorced men are of low moral character.

Pull your head out of your backside and stop being a drama queen Billy. What I wrote is crystal clear, your denial is a joke.

      You're something else BillyB and I'm gonna laugh my ass off when you get a divorce in far less than 23 years married.

Title: Re: Two good people make good things happen.
Post by: Guile on March 26, 2019, 12:07:50 PM
boys boys settle down!  Billy's a good guy and so are you Confed.  From the members here he's one of the least likely to be hypocritical.

Moby and Wiz on the other hand.. :ROFL: :ROFL: