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Putin accuses the West of taking Russia’s ‘red lines’ too lightly
Russian president says Moscow needs serious security guarantees from
the West, accuses NATO of destroying all mechanisms for dialogue.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/11/18/putin-accuses-west-of-taking-russias-red-lines-too-lightly
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Germany decries Russia's publication of diplomatic notes on Ukraine
Germany and France have accused Russia of flouting diplomatic protocol after
Moscow published confidential correspondence over a proposed meeting on
resolving the conflict in eastern Ukraine.
http://www.dw.com/en/germany-decries-russias-publication-of-diplomatic-notes-on-ukraine/a-59870445
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It seems Russia is not helping to lower tensions.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-military-reports-debris-generating-event-outer-space-2021-11-15/
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It seems Russia is not helping to lower tensions.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-military-reports-debris-generating-event-outer-space-2021-11-15/
I scooped you here three days ago :8)
https://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,29635.0.html
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It seems Russia is not helping to lower tensions.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-military-reports-debris-generating-event-outer-space-2021-11-15/
I scooped you here three days ago :8)
https://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,29635.0.html
Well I can’t see everything!
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Russia made proposals that would be required to be met if the Ukraine border
tension was to be reduced.
In the proposals Russia sets out a series of requirements, which require countries that
joined Nato after the fall of the Soviet Union not to deploy troops or weapons in areas
where they could be seen as a threat to Russia. Heavy bombers and warships would
not be allowed in areas outside their national airspace or waters from which they
could launch an attack
That would mean Nato not playing any role at all in any of the three Baltic republics
or Poland. Of course that means no joint exercises or anything stronger than border
police. The Baltics are so small that any troops of any kind would necessitate a threat.
Here is a summary of the proposal
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790818/?lang=en
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Russia made proposals that would be required to be met if the Ukraine border
tension was to be reduced.
In the proposals Russia sets out a series of requirements, which require countries that
joined Nato after the fall of the Soviet Union not to deploy troops or weapons in areas
where they could be seen as a threat to Russia. Heavy bombers and warships would
not be allowed in areas outside their national airspace or waters from which they
could launch an attack
That would mean Nato not playing any role at all in any of the three Baltic republics
or Poland. Of course that means no joint exercises or anything stronger than border
police. The Baltics are so small that any troops of any kind would necessitate a threat.
Here is a summary of the proposal
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790818/?lang=en
What is wrong with the proposals?
Have you forgot what happen in Cuba with JFK?
Do we need a Holocaust because USA has lost its exclusive Hegemonic position?
:dh:
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My guess an independent Ukraine even though economical far smaller than Russia is a far greater threat to the Kremlin’s stability than a couple battalions of NATO troops near the borders of Russia.
If one doubts this look at the efforts Belarus has gone to prevent reform and freedom of choice. Anyways the cat is out of the bag, Vladmir is dreaming or using the wrong drugs.
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Have you forgot what happen in Cuba with JFK?
The bay of pigs? The missile crisis? Something else? I don't see any correlation.
Have you forgotten lessons learned from Neville Chamberlain?
Do we need a Holocaust because USA has lost its exclusive Hegemonic position?
The USA has many problems our Hegemonic position or lack thereof isn't one of them.
I don't see how the the USA's Hegemonic position could be enhanced or diminished by
events in the Baltic's or Ukraine. It's primarily NATO that is affected. The life or death
of NATO is of very little importance to me. I certainly don't think that the USA should
be paying for it.
I posted the articles and links to the proposals to encourage comment and debate on
topic(s) related to the forum.
Udachi!
Bill
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Have you forgot what happen in Cuba with JFK?
The bay of pigs? The missile crisis? Something else? I don't see any correlation.
Have you forgotten lessons learned from Neville Chamberlain?
Do we need a Holocaust because USA has lost its exclusive Hegemonic position?
The USA has many problems our Hegemonic position or lack thereof isn't one of them.
I don't see how the the USA's Hegemonic position could be enhanced or diminished by
events in the Baltic's or Ukraine. It's primarily NATO that is affected. The life or death
of NATO is of very little importance to me. I certainly don't think that the USA should
be paying for it.
I posted the articles and links to the proposals to encourage comment and debate on
topic(s) related to the forum.
Udachi!
Bill
You are placing this on NATO but everyone who is paying close attention knows that the hawks in DC think that the USA should not only be involved, they think the USA is the leader of NATO and should tell Europe what to do.
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Have you forgot what happen in Cuba with JFK?
The bay of pigs? The missile crisis? Something else? I don't see any correlation.
Have you forgotten lessons learned from Neville Chamberlain?
Do we need a Holocaust because USA has lost its exclusive Hegemonic position?
The USA has many problems our Hegemonic position or lack thereof isn't one of them.
I don't see how the the USA's Hegemonic position could be enhanced or diminished by
events in the Baltic's or Ukraine. It's primarily NATO that is affected. The life or death
of NATO is of very little importance to me. I certainly don't think that the USA should
be paying for it.
I posted the articles and links to the proposals to encourage comment and debate on
topic(s) related to the forum.
Udachi!
Bill
Billy
When all above episodes you mentioned were taking place, I guess you were wearing shorts and dreaming about beautiful Foreign ladies.......to go on holidays...... but I was slighter ahead of you and I remember all the noises on TV and radio Speeches on the UN and the battles of wills between JFK and Nikita Khrushchev Please refresh your memory by reading: The Cuban Missile Crisis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis) At that time JFK won the battle of wills from Nikita Khrushchev, thanks to the information received from the French agent in Cuba, under the name "Papylon" and after an agreement between the Leaders all Russian rockets returned back to Russia.and USA imposed sanctions to Cuba, which are still in operation! Why you try hiding behind your finger?
President John F. Kennedy had a good taste in women.... like you ....... :laugh:
I am sure you do understand the Correlation very well between the above CUBA example and also the current actions of the Ex-Hegemon Nation using it's NATO creation and also it's allies....supporting the US provocative actions in Ukraine, the under belly of the Russian state.
Putin it's not Nikita Khrushchev and many time has made fools of the US superiority especially in Crimea.
Bear in mind that all NATO and USA boats in the Black see are sitting ducks for Russia.....
Good luck my friend.... 2tallbilly and prepare your self for what is coming next if USA push the sanctions against Russia and China on the SWIFT system,
tiphat
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Four notes;
The Soviets had to remove there missiles from Cuba.
The Americans had to remove there missiles from Turkey.
I suspect warships from America or Western Europe are NOT sitting ducks when on the Black Sea.
JFK had Marilyn M. And B. Clinton had Monica L.
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The sanctions predate by approximately 11 months the missile crisis.
Economic with the truth yet again Wiz?
Worth noting the history and time line of the crises is complicated, the link Wiz posted up thread though gives good background.
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Four notes;
The Soviets had to remove their missiles from Cuba.
The Americans had to remove their missiles from Turkey.
I suspect warships from America or Western Europe are NOT sitting ducks when on the Black Sea.
JFK had Marilyn M. And B. Clinton had Monica L.
Beg to differ however it seems to me that Russia is prudent and they really don't want to start WWIII so why would they sink one of our ships?
Doesn't really make sense that they would do that therefore it is more or less a moot point.
I would also like to mention that JFK had a lot better taste than Bill Clinton. :smokin:
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Four notes;
The Soviets had to remove their missiles from Cuba.
The Americans had to remove their missiles from Turkey.
I suspect warships from America or Western Europe are NOT sitting ducks when on the Black Sea.
JFK had Marilyn M. And B. Clinton had Monica L.
Beg to differ however it seems to me that Russia is prudent and they really don't want to start WWIII so why would they sink one of our ships?
Doesn't really make sense that they would do that therefore it is more or less a moot point.
I would also like to mention that JFK had a lot better taste than Bill Clinton. :smokin:
Yes I agree on the points that you make above. The American vessels largely can defend themselves. My guess is that you are going to see this “dance” continue. It gives the pundits something to write about.
Marilyn was a hottie and Monica was as attractive as a brick and just about as smart.
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OMG how do people come up with this?
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Putin Warns Biden of ‘Complete Rupture’ of U.S.-Russia Relationship Over Ukraine
https://dnyuz.com/2021/12/30/putin-warns-biden-of-complete-rupture-of-u-s-russia-relationship-over-ukraine/
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Why do you persist in lying and posting bull shitj?
I could post the entire article from Jane’s but what is the point?
The below is from Wikipedia. It should once again prove what a sack of shit in a silk socking you are.
On 24 February 2012, Donald Cook was awarded the 2011 Battle Efficiency "E" award.[5] On 9 April 2014, U.S. military officials confirmed the deployment of Donald Cook to the Black Sea,[6] shortly after Russia's annexation of Crimea and amid the pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine. The U.S. Department of Defense's official statement said that the vessel's mission was "to reassure NATO allies and Black Sea partners of America’s commitment to strengthen and improve interoperability while working towards mutual goals in the region".[7] On 10 April 2014, the warship was reported to have entered the Black Sea.[citationtire needed] On 12 April 2014, an unarmed Russian Su-24 "Fencer" fighter jet made twelve close-range passes of Donald Cook during a patrol of the western Black Sea.[8][9] According to an allegation by a Pentagon spokesman, "The aircraft did not respond to multiple queries and warnings from Donald Cook, and the event ended without incident after approximately 90 minutes." It was further stated that Donald Cook is more than capable of defending herself against a pair of Su-24s. In 2014, Russia's state-run news media outlets ran a series of reports that falsely asserted that during that incident the Su-24, equipped with the Khibiny electronic warfare system, had disabled the ship's Aegis combat systems. The misinformation was later picked up by the British tabloid The Sun and by Fox News, and later reported as Russian propaganda by The New York Times.
Further do not manipulate my quotes to fulfill your hate and repugnant views.
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Whether or not the Donald Cook's electronic systems were disrupted is no longer really relevant.
There is clear evidence that the Russians, and not just the Russians, do have the capability to exert control over weapon systems.
I am ambivalent on the veracity of the Cook story, however I am alive to the idea that a very strong and consistent denial of the story is essential to the United States. If it were true then a no effort spared process of creating a countervailing narrative would have to be created at the same time as urgent work was carried out to reduce the potential opportunity for future similar incidents. There's no link to a public source carrying a denial that could be trusted.
IMHO the strongest reason to think the story is either completely or partially untrue is that it makes little strategic sense to give away knowledge of this new capability when other means of 'dissuading' the Donald Cook from proceeding existed.
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Whether or not the Donald Cook's electronic systems were disrupted is no longer really relevant.
There is clear evidence that the Russians, and not just the Russians, do have the capability to exert control over weapon systems.
I am ambivalent on the veracity of the Cook story, however I am alive to the idea that a very strong and consistent denial of the story is essential to the United States. If it were true then a no effort spared process of creating a countervailing narrative would have to be created at the same time as urgent work was carried out to reduce the potential opportunity for future similar incidents. There's no link to a public source carrying a denial that could be trusted.
IMHO the strongest reason to think the story is either completely or partially untrue is that it makes little strategic sense to give away knowledge of this new capability when other means of 'dissuading' the Donald Cook from proceeding existed.
Yes, like a torpedo from one of Russia's many submarines in the region. :ROFL:
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Whether or not the Donald Cook's electronic systems were disrupted is no longer really relevant.
There is clear evidence that the Russians, and not just the Russians, do have the capability to exert control over weapon systems.
I am ambivalent on the veracity of the Cook story, however I am alive to the idea that a very strong and consistent denial of the story is essential to the United States. If it were true then a no effort spared process of creating a countervailing narrative would have to be created at the same time as urgent work was carried out to reduce the potential opportunity for future similar incidents. There's no link to a public source carrying a denial that could be trusted.
IMHO the strongest reason to think the story is either completely or partially untrue is that it makes little strategic sense to give away knowledge of this new capability when other means of 'dissuading' the Donald Cook from proceeding existed.
Yes, like a torpedo from one of Russia's many submarines in the region. :ROFL:
While I am certain that Russia and for that matter other nations have submarines in the Black Sea. The vessels are vulnerable because of the nature of the Black Sea, it is rather shallow, unless a sub can get under a thermocline (temparture difference) they are open to exposure and attack.
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While I am certain that Russia and for that matter other nations have submarines in the Black Sea. The vessels are vulnerable because of the nature of the Black Sea, it is rather shallow, unless a sub can get under a thermocline (temparture difference) they are open to exposure and attack.
In fact my comment is not correct. There are parts of the Black Sea that are over 2,000 meters in depth. Deep enough for a submarine to lurk and evade.
Cuffy can share his knowledge and insight if he so wishes.
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While I am certain that Russia and for that matter other nations have submarines in the Black Sea. The vessels are vulnerable because of the nature of the Black Sea, it is rather shallow, unless a sub can get under a thermocline (temparture difference) they are open to exposure and attack.
In fact my comment is not correct. There are parts of the Black Sea that are over 2,000 meters in depth. Deep enough for a submarine to lurk and evade.
Cuffy can share his knowledge and insight if he so wishes.
Like I wrote previously, US and other NATO ships are sitting ducks in the Black Sea, should hostilities break out.
Let's hope they don't. In fact let's hope that upcoming talks are successful such that both sides get something which appeases them and keeps the USA and Russia at peace. :gousa: :RUS:
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Moscow warns Finland and Sweden against joining Nato amid rising tensions
https://eutoday.net/news/security-defence/2021/moscow-warns-finland-and-sweden-against-joining-nato-amid-rising-tensions
Finland says it could join NATO despite pressure from Russia as tensions grow
over possible invasion of Ukraine
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10365011/Finland-says-join-NATO-despite-pressure-Russia.html
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Russian Federation President Putin might be receiving a strongly worded letter
from Biden if he doesn't start flying straight regarding Ukraine. That is just one
of the decisive responses that the US president has in his arsenal as a disincentive
for Russia invading Ukraine.
Biden tells Ukrainian president US 'will respond decisively if Russia further invades'
https://www.wfsb.com/news/biden-tells-ukrainian-president-us-will-respond-decisively-if-russia-further-invades/article_a1c4ff43-0822-56cc-9db2-0fd451d2cc75.html?block_id=1025486
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"2tallbill" has posted enough articles showing who is pushing for a war and that reminds me of a dying person that is kicking its legs when is on its last legs. Obviously the American economy needs another kick start from its main engine .. "The defence industry", like in the cases of Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Libya etc. It appears that he has plenty of free time on his hands and just wonder if he has retired ... like me and wife is not keeping him busy! I hope he reads the following article and make his comments too! ;D
Poking the Russian Bear: US-NATO Aggression and Russia's Red Line (https://www.globalresearch.ca/poking-the-russian-bear-us-nato-aggression-and-russias-red-line/5765452)
Following the Taliban's victory over US-NATO forces in Afghanistan, Washington is walking into another death trap, but this time on Russia's borders with the neighboring Ukraine. So now, Washington's non-partisan bureaucrats and the Military-Industrial Complex are calling for ways to fight "Russian aggression".
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On November 30th, a report published by Reuters ‘Putin warns Russia will act if NATO crosses its red lines in Ukraine' said that Putin mentioned what is at stake if NATO expands eastward while they deployed the Aegis Ashore missile defense systems in Poland and Romania:
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The Russian leader, who questioned why NATO had ignored repeated Russian warnings and expanded its military infrastructure eastwards, singled out the deployment in Poland and Romania of the Aegis Ashore missile defence system. He made it clear he did not want to see the same launch MK41 systems, which Russia has long complained can be used to also launch offensive Tomahawk cruise missiles, in Ukraine.
"Creating such threats (in Ukraine) would be red lines for us. But I hope it doesn't come to that. I hope that a sense of common sense, responsibility for both our countries and the world community will prevail," said Putin
To make matters worse, US senators from the Republican party submitted a bill that calls for $450 million in military aid to the Ukraine with new sanctions on the Nord Stream 2 project. The bill will also label Russia a "state sponsor of terrorism" according to a December 18th report from rt.com, ‘Russia reacts to US ‘state sponsor of terrorism threat':
On Wednesday, eight American Republican party senators submitted a bill, speculatively titled the ‘GUARD Act', containing a range of measures designed to support Kiev. The proposed legislation would authorize an additional $450 million in military aid and impose new sanctions on Nord Stream 2, the recently constructed pipeline that will bring Russian gas to Europe through the Baltic Sea, which Ukraine and the US have strongly opposed.
The bill would also officially designate Russia as a "state sponsor of terrorism" if Moscow advances militarily on its eastern European neighbor. In recent weeks, American and Ukrainian intelligence services have accused the Kremlin of "aggressive actions" on the border with Ukraine, including troop buildup, and said they suspected a Russian invasion could be in the works
Another important article from rt.com ‘China & Russia are ready to end US dominance of global finance'said that Russia and China are on the way to bypass the US dollar:
A financial partnership between China and Russia, the world's largest energy importer and the world's largest energy exporter, is an indispensable instrument for dethroning the petrodollar. In 2015, approximately 90% of trade between Russia and China was settled in dollars, and by 2020, dollar-denominated trade between the two Eurasian giants had almost reduced by half, with only 46% of trade in dollars. Russia has also been leading the way in cutting the share of US dollars in its foreign reserves. The mechanisms for de-dollarizing China-Russia trade are also used to end the use of the greenback with third parties - with advancements being seen in places such as Latin America, Turkey, Iran, India, etc. The US has been pumping out dollars to the entire world for decades, and at some point, the tide will change as the sea of dollars return home with increasingly diminished value
Russia and China has also been working on alternatives to the SWIFT system:
The SWIFT system for financial transactions between banks worldwide was previously the only system for international payments. This central role for SWIFT began to erode when the US used it as a political weapon. The Americans first expelled Iran and North Korea, and in 2014, Washington began threatening to expel Russia from the system as well. Over the past few weeks, the threat of using SWIFT as a weapon against Russia has intensified.
China has responded by creating CIPS and Russia developed SPFS, both being alternatives to SWIFT. Even several other European countries have banded together with an alternative to SWIFT to curb Washington's extra-territorial jurisdiction and thus continue trading with Iran. A new China-Russia financial architecture should integrate CIPS and SPFS, and make them more available to third parties. If the US expels Russia, then the decoupling from SWIFT would intensify further
The US wants its dollar to remain king by any means necessary. One of the main reasons Washington went to war with Iraq was not only about oil, it was because Saddam Hussein had switched from selling oil in US dollars to accepting payments in Euros as retribution for US sanctions. In Libya, Muammar Gaddafi was overthrown and murdered by US-backed forces because he was creating an alternative currency which was a gold-backed African dinar to replace U.S. dollars and Euros in the African continent.
A recent press conference, the US president and liberal war hawk, Joe Biden was asked about what consequences Russia would face if they invaded Ukraine's territory. The liberal cheerleaders for war at CNN have been reporting what US and European leaders have been up to in regards to planning harsh sanctions on Russia because it's President, Vladimir Putin is misbehaving, therefore punishment must be served by the American empire, So how dare you Vlad for wanting to protect your country!, "the kinds of costs the US and European allies are discussing for Russia are "designed to be implemented very, very fast," the official said, without detailing what those measures would be. "That is partly why we have chosen the measures that we are working on." One of their actions is most likely to cut Russia off the Swift payment system since the US dollar is still the world's reserve currency for the moment. "The Biden administration has repeatedly said there will be severe economic consequences. Biden's national security adviser Jake Sullivan also made clear last week there will be further US defensive military support for Ukraine as well as US support for NATO countries on the eastern flank of Russia invades Ukraine", continued:
I've made it absolutely clear to President Putin," Biden said. "If he moves on Ukraine, the economic consequences for his economy are going to be devastating. Devastating, number one. Number two, we will find it required that we'll have to send more American and NATO troops into the Eastern Flank, the (Bucharest) 9, all those NATO countries where we have a sacred obligation to defend them against any attack by Russia. And number three, the impact of all of that on Russia and his attitude, the rest of the world, his view of Russia would change markedly. He'll pay a terrible price
In early December, rt.com also has been documenting what's been happening with the Ukraine's decision to recklessly build-up its troop levels in the Donbass region which is a clear threat to Russia's security concerns:
Ukraine has now stationed well over 100,000 troops and large quantities of hardware in the war-torn Donbass region, the Russian Foreign Ministry alleged on Wednesday morning, amid rising tensions. Speaking at a briefing on Wednesday, diplomatic spokeswoman Maria Zakharova claimed that "the Armed Forces of Ukraine are increasing [their] military force, pulling heavy equipment and personnel."
"According to some reports, the number of troops%u2026 in the conflict zone already reaches 125,000 people, and this, if anyone does not know, is half of the entire composition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine," she said. Zakharova also condemned Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for submitting a bill to the national parliament that would allow units from foreign armed forces to enter the country as part of multinational exercises next year. According to her, such a move directly contradicts the Minsk agreement, signed in 2014 in a bid to end the fighting between Kiev's forces and troops loyal to two self-declared breakaway republics
What's even more dangerous is the talk of a first-strike option with nuclear weapons against Russia by Mississippi's high-ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Senator Roger Wicker as reported by FOX news:
Sen. Wicker made the startling comment during an on-air interview where he was asked about the escalating situation abroad. Wicker, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said that he is ruling nothing out as a potential response to defend Ukraine's sovereignty against Russia and its leader, President Vladimir Putin. "I would not rule out American troops on the ground," Wicker said, adding, that "We don't rule out first-use nuclear action"
Let's make something clear, if the US and Europe are considering a war against Russia through Ukraine, it can escalate into another nuclear standoff reminiscent of the 1962 Cuban Missile crisis.
Russia is well-prepared for an all-out war with the west because they know that the American empire will not quit until they submit to Washington's demands. Russia is ready, they learned a long-time ago when they were the former Soviet Union during World War II when more than 27 million Russian civilians and soldiers lost their lives fighting Nazi Germany within their borders. Washington is backing Ukraine's aggressive behavior which will bring them closer to war with Russia. Although I believe cooler heads will prevail, anything at this point in time can happen with an out of control empire worried about losing their control over the planet. The US has its back against the wall, the question is what will they do knowing that Russia and China have the military capabilities including their new hypersonic missiles that can hit the US mainland at anytime.
The US-NATO forces would not prevail on a multi-front war with Russia and China, they should have learned a lesson in Afghanistan with the Taliban who had by far, a less-developed fighting force than Russia or China but had managed to defeat US-NATO forces after 20 years of conflict. Washington and the Pentagon knows deep down that defeating Russia, China and the rest of their adversaries will be a difficult mission, but it seems that the psychopaths in Washington and Brussels live in a fantasy land and believe they can win this coming war. Let's hope it don't get that far because it would be disastrous for the entire world.
By Timothy Alexander Guzman at Global Research, 26 December 2021 (https://www.globalresearch.ca/poking-the-russian-bear-us-nato-aggression-and-russias-red-line/5765452)
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Washington is backing Ukraine's aggressive behavior which will bring them closer to war with Russia. Although I believe cooler heads will prevail, anything at this point in time can happen with an out of control empire worried about losing their control over the planet. The US has its back against the wall, the question is what will they do knowing that Russia and China have the military capabilities including their new hypersonic missiles that can hit the US mainland at anytime.
The US-NATO forces would not prevail on a multi-front war with Russia and China, they should have learned a lesson in Afghanistan with the Taliban who had by far, a less-developed fighting force than Russia or China but had managed to defeat US-NATO forces after 20 years of conflict. Washington and the Pentagon knows deep down that defeating Russia, China and the rest of their adversaries will be a difficult mission, but it seems that the psychopaths in Washington and Brussels live in a fantasy land and believe they can win this coming war. Let's hope it don't get that far because it would be disastrous for the entire world.
Those are the key points.
The US is a dying empire ostensibly under the control of an elderly man who seems rather vacant. I've been saying for years they will go down kicking and screaming. See posts passim.
As with any dying empire, the US will go down kicking, screaming and lashing out; we know that. We see the wars being ignited already.
As predicted many times, the decline of the US will be accompanied by a lot of kicking and screaming. This is what we are seeing the start of now. It will get worse till Trump gets in (if he does). Then (assuming he does) it will quieten down while the US spends a few years healing internal issues.
Cuffy, of course China is rising. As is Russia. I've often ruminated that the US will go down kicking and screaming, and we are seeing this now. The general idea is that the US will be relegated to a regional power. Power in the world will be multipolar.
Nobody wants the US as the world's policeman belligerently blundering around the world destroying governments, deposing leaders and killing heads of states. Russia watched you ignite Ukraine, and then blocked you destroying Syria, and China blocked you destroying North Korea. What will happen in Venezuela remains to be seen, but you haven't gone in already for a reason. ;)
The days of the US stomping around the world killing the leaders and deposing governments have come to an end. It'll take y'all a while to adjust to the new status quo.
The defeat in Afghanistan by a bunch of blokes in flip flops is clear evidence that the tiger has lost its teeth.
The US won't take on Russia directly. Why they meddled about with regime changes in Ukraine, sanctions and other tools where they have plausible deniability. I suspect this is why we are now seeing an attempt at another colour revolution in Kazakhstan. Russia isnt stupid. They can see whats going on. They will continue to assist in the managed decline of US influence on their borders and around the world.
Nobody wants an angry and belligerent tiger on their doorstep. Even if it has no teeth.
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What's even more dangerous is the talk of a first-strike option with nuclear weapons
against Russia by Mississippi's high-ranking member of the Senate Armed Services
Committee, Senator Roger Wicker as reported by FOX news:
Senator Wicker sits on a committee that determines how money is spent
and such things and has no more power to launch nukes than I do.
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What's even more dangerous is the talk of a first-strike option with nuclear weapons
against Russia by Mississippi's high-ranking member of the Senate Armed Services
Committee, Senator Roger Wicker as reported by FOX news:
Senator Wicker sits on a committee that determines how money is spent
and such things and has no more power to launch nukes than I do.
Apparently he has the power to scare people. Words matter. :whistle:
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I suspect this is why we are now seeing an attempt at another colour revolution in Kazakhstan. Russia isnt stupid. They can see whats going on.
First thing I thought too. The reasonable demands of the protestors are being met, but apparently its not enough. So you have to ask: why continue the protest unless you're being goaded/payed to do it.
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Washington is backing Ukraine's aggressive behavior which will bring them closer to war with Russia. Although I believe cooler heads will prevail, anything at this point in time can happen with an out of control empire worried about losing their control over the planet. The US has its back against the wall, the question is what will they do knowing that Russia and China have the military capabilities including their new hypersonic missiles that can hit the US mainland at anytime.
The US-NATO forces would not prevail on a multi-front war with Russia and China, they should have learned a lesson in Afghanistan with the Taliban who had by far, a less-developed fighting force than Russia or China but had managed to defeat US-NATO forces after 20 years of conflict. Washington and the Pentagon knows deep down that defeating Russia, China and the rest of their adversaries will be a difficult mission, but it seems that the psychopaths in Washington and Brussels live in a fantasy land and believe they can win this coming war. Let's hope it don't get that far because it would be disastrous for the entire world.
Those are the key points.
The US is a dying empire ostensibly under the control of an elderly man who seems rather vacant. I've been saying for years they will go down kicking and screaming. See posts passim.
As with any dying empire, the US will go down kicking, screaming and lashing out; we know that. We see the wars being ignited already.
As predicted many times, the decline of the US will be accompanied by a lot of kicking and screaming. This is what we are seeing the start of now. It will get worse till Trump gets in (if he does). Then (assuming he does) it will quieten down while the US spends a few years healing internal issues.
Cuffy, of course China is rising. As is Russia. I've often ruminated that the US will go down kicking and screaming, and we are seeing this now. The general idea is that the US will be relegated to a regional power. Power in the world will be multipolar.
Nobody wants the US as the world's policeman belligerently blundering around the world destroying governments, deposing leaders and killing heads of states. Russia watched you ignite Ukraine, and then blocked you destroying Syria, and China blocked you destroying North Korea. What will happen in Venezuela remains to be seen, but you haven't gone in already for a reason. ;)
The days of the US stomping around the world killing the leaders and deposing governments have come to an end. It'll take y'all a while to adjust to the new status quo.
The defeat in Afghanistan by a bunch of blokes in flip flops is clear evidence that the tiger has lost its teeth.
The US won't take on Russia directly. Why they meddled about with regime changes in Ukraine, sanctions and other tools where they have plausible deniability. I suspect this is why we are now seeing an attempt at another colour revolution in Kazakhstan. Russia isnt stupid. They can see whats going on. They will continue to assist in the managed decline of US influence on their borders and around the world.
Nobody wants an angry and belligerent tiger on their doorstep. Even if it has no teeth.
Ukraine military spending is 900 million dollars per year. Russia military spending is 60 plus billion dollars. Russia has invaded and is occupying Ukraine territory that they want back. How is Ukraine a serious threat to Russia? If Russia would leave occupied territories of Ukraine, they would not be a war.
Putin often threatens to strike US with nuclear weapons. I think it is just a scare tactic. Why cannot some members of the USA do the same?
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Poking the Russian Bear: US-NATO Aggression and Russia's Red Line (https://www.globalresearch.ca/poking-the-russian-bear-us-nato-aggression-and-russias-red-line/5765452)
Ukraine has now stationed well over 100,000 troops and large quantities of hardware in the war-torn Donbass region, the Russian Foreign Ministry alleged on Wednesday morning, amid rising tensions. Speaking at a briefing on Wednesday, diplomatic spokeswoman Maria Zakharova claimed that "the Armed Forces of Ukraine are increasing [their] military force, pulling heavy equipment and personnel."
"According to some reports, the number of troops%u2026 in the conflict zone already reaches 125,000 people, and this, if anyone does not know, is half of the entire composition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine," she said. Zakharova also condemned Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for submitting a bill to the national parliament that would allow units from foreign armed forces to enter the country as part of multinational exercises next year. According to her, such a move directly contradicts the Minsk agreement, signed in 2014 in a bid to end the fighting between Kiev's forces and troops loyal to two self-declared breakaway republics.
By Timothy Alexander Guzman at Global Research, 26 December 2021 (https://www.globalresearch.ca/poking-the-russian-bear-us-nato-aggression-and-russias-red-line/5765452)
Mr. Guzman should learn to think and perhaps do some critical thinking. Ukraine has approximately 160,000 soldiers in its army. To think any military commander will station 2/3 of his assets on a front line shows his navive logic or his ignorance.
It is worth admiring how well Ukraine has been at containing the Russian forces and not surrendering.
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The Kazakh protests are about gas prices doubling overnight, in a country where the average wage is $600 monthly, and the government is raking in money from oil and gas exports. The US isn't responsible for that, the Kazakh government is.
You will all look back wistfully at the days of US hegemony when your Chinese overlords take over.
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The Kazakh protests are about gas prices doubling overnight, in a country where the average wage is $600 monthly, and the government is raking in money from oil and gas exports. The US isn't responsible for that, the Kazakh government is.
You will all look back wistfully at the days of US hegemony when your Chinese overlords take over.
Now that's a scary thought. :smokin:
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Speaking of Kazakhstan, Russian paratroopers have been sent there to help restore order.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/russian-paratroopers-arrive-kazakhstan-help-141600461.html
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Ukraine military spending is 900 million dollars per year.
And good old Uncle Sam is paying at least 5% of that.
Russia military spending is 60 plus billion dollars.
Ukraine is a relatively small country. Russia is the largest country in the world.
Russia has invaded and is occupying Ukraine territory that they want back.
Are you referring to the democratic reunification of Crimea or the breakaway of the regions in the east? Neither is a Russian occupation.
How is Ukraine a serious threat to Russia?
It isnt.
Putin often threatens to strike US with nuclear weapons.
Could you give us an example of this?
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Washington is backing Ukraine's aggressive behavior which will bring them closer to war with Russia. Although I believe cooler heads will prevail, anything at this point in time can happen with an out of control empire worried about losing their control over the planet. The US has its back against the wall, the question is what will they do knowing that Russia and China have the military capabilities including their new hypersonic missiles that can hit the US mainland at anytime.
The US-NATO forces would not prevail on a multi-front war with Russia and China, they should have learned a lesson in Afghanistan with the Taliban who had by far, a less-developed fighting force than Russia or China but had managed to defeat US-NATO forces after 20 years of conflict. Washington and the Pentagon knows deep down that defeating Russia, China and the rest of their adversaries will be a difficult mission, but it seems that the psychopaths in Washington and Brussels live in a fantasy land and believe they can win this coming war. Let's hope it don't get that far because it would be disastrous for the entire world.
Those are the key points.
The US is a dying empire ostensibly under the control of an elderly man who seems rather vacant. I've been saying for years they will go down kicking and screaming. See posts passim.
As with any dying empire, the US will go down kicking, screaming and lashing out; we know that. We see the wars being ignited already.
As predicted many times, the decline of the US will be accompanied by a lot of kicking and screaming. This is what we are seeing the start of now. It will get worse till Trump gets in (if he does). Then (assuming he does) it will quieten down while the US spends a few years healing internal issues.
Cuffy, of course China is rising. As is Russia. I've often ruminated that the US will go down kicking and screaming, and we are seeing this now. The general idea is that the US will be relegated to a regional power. Power in the world will be multipolar.
Nobody wants the US as the world's policeman belligerently blundering around the world destroying governments, deposing leaders and killing heads of states. Russia watched you ignite Ukraine, and then blocked you destroying Syria, and China blocked you destroying North Korea. What will happen in Venezuela remains to be seen, but you haven't gone in already for a reason. ;)
The days of the US stomping around the world killing the leaders and deposing governments have come to an end. It'll take y'all a while to adjust to the new status quo.
The defeat in Afghanistan by a bunch of blokes in flip flops is clear evidence that the tiger has lost its teeth.
The US won't take on Russia directly. Why they meddled about with regime changes in Ukraine, sanctions and other tools where they have plausible deniability. I suspect this is why we are now seeing an attempt at another colour revolution in Kazakhstan. Russia isnt stupid. They can see whats going on. They will continue to assist in the managed decline of US influence on their borders and around the world.
Nobody wants an angry and belligerent tiger on their doorstep. Even if it has no teeth.
Ukraine military spending is 900 million dollars per year. Russia military spending is 60 plus billion dollars. Russia has invaded and is occupying Ukraine territory that they want back. How is Ukraine a serious threat to Russia? If Russia would leave occupied territories of Ukraine, they would not be a war.
Putin often threatens to strike US with nuclear weapons. I think it is just a scare tactic. Why cannot some members of the USA do the same?
Crimea was an Autonomous Republic with it's own Government and parliament.. and was co-perating with Kiev but not under its Jurisdiction, when it was transferred by Nikita Khrushchev.
Remember all these republics, where colour revolutions took place, were part of the ex USSR........and for your information the majority of them were pro-Russian. Same is now the situation in Kazakhstan today.....
Earlier I heard in a Greek Radio a report from a Greek correspondent in Kazakhstan
that the USA embssy staff started living the country, and if it is true makes me wonder Why.
Actually all the killings by the so called demonstrators were made with Guns......and I wonder where did they find them?
I see that other people agree with my previous made statement : "As with any dying empire, the US will go down kicking, screaming and lashing out; we know that"
tiphat
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Russia reacts furiously to Blinken jibe over troops in Kazakhstan
http://www.reuters.com/world/russia-reacts-furiously-blinken-jibe-over-troops-kazakhstan-2022-01-08/
What will Russia gain from intervening in Kazakhstan?
http://www.aljazeera.com/program/inside-story/2022/1/8/what-will-russia-gain-from-intervening-in-kazakhstan
Russian perspective from TASS
Situation in Kazakhstan stabilizes after Tokayev’s address, peacekeepers’ arrival
http://tass.com/world/1384955
Kazakhstan Detains Ex-Security Chief on Suspicion of Treason
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/01/08/kazakhstan-detains-ex-security-chief-a75987
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Russia reacts furiously to Blinken jibe over troops in Kazakhstan
http://www.reuters.com/world/russia-reacts-furiously-blinken-jibe-over-troops-kazakhstan-2022-01-08/
What will Russia gain from intervening in Kazakhstan?
http://www.aljazeera.com/program/inside-story/2022/1/8/what-will-russia-gain-from-intervening-in-kazakhstan
Russian perspective from TASS
Situation in Kazakhstan stabilizes after Tokayev’s address, peacekeepers’ arrival
http://tass.com/world/1384955
Kazakhstan Detains Ex-Security Chief on Suspicion of Treason
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/01/08/kazakhstan-detains-ex-security-chief-a75987
Foolish comment IMO by Blinken. He seems to be an amateur.
I always thought that the Secretary of State of the USA is supposed to be a diplomat?
I am thinking of someone professional like Shultz under Reagan.
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In a new wrinkle there is a possibility that Russia will nullify there participation in the Cape Town Treaty. This will have the effect of ‘cutting off your nose to spite your face.’
But treaties for Russia are akin to toilet paper, so what is new.