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Trump Sends a “Death Threat” to Iraq’s PM!
The Primordial Urge to Slay a Hero
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The assassination of Major General Qaseem Soleimani, who was already a national hero in Iran, has now achieved the stature of a world class martyr. Carrying a diplomatic passport on his flight into Baghdad, Soleimani was also carrying the Iranian response to a Saudi initiative for peace.
In contrast, President Donald Trump has revealed more about his own inner angst than he ever intended – or perhaps, being a non-introspective type, what has been revealed may be more than he himself has ever acknowledged.
As events and more of the back story unfold, Trump’s frequently problematic sense of reality may be questioned in view of his astonishing suggestion that he is ‘ready (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBPZ-dWZDt4) to make a new nuclear deal with Iran, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37RsefjejRo) even as he ordered additional sanction against the country. Prior to Soleimani’s assassination, Trump threatened to kill Iraq Prime Minister Adil Abdul Mahdi (https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/01/08/the-deeper-story-behind-the-assassination-of-soleimani/)
There is no denying that the nature of the act is right out of the Israel play book of quick and dirty overkill and extermination of humanity as seen in Gaza and Jerusalem on a daily basis.
During a session of the Iraq legislature immediately after the assassination, Mahdi reported that the Americans had “ruined his country” and were now unwilling to repair Iraq’s electric grid and other infrastructure needs. Mahdi did what any self respecting leader would do; he signed a contract with Trump’s favorite trading partner to make the repairs. China already had an international reputation for providing necessary community infrastructure in Africa and elsewhere – wonder if they might visit Detroit and solve their water quality crisis.
Trump has vehemently opposed Iraq’s deal with China unless Mahdi would guarantee that 50% of Iraq’s oil revenue would go to the US. Mahdi refused and when he refused to reject the contract, he said that Trump “threatened to unleash huge demonstrations against me that would end my premiership.”
Mahdi continued
“Huge demonstrations against me duly materialized and Trump called again to threaten that if I did not comply with his demands, then he would have Marine sniperson tall buildings target protesters and security personnel alike in order to pressure me. I refused again and handed in my resignation. To this day the Americans insist on us rescinding our deal with the Chinese.”
Mahdi says he was also “threatened with false-flag sniper shootings of both protesters and security personnel in order to inflame the situation” like what took place in Cairo in 2009, Libya in 2011, and the Maidan in 2014.
“After this, when our Minister of Defense publicly stated that a third party was targeting both protestors and security personnel alike (just as Trump had threatened he would do), I received a new call from Trump threatening to kill both me and the Minister of Defense if we kept on talking about this “third party”.
Does any precedent exist, outside of a formally declared war, where the leader of one country personally threatens the life of the leader of another country? This sounds more serious than just a “bad hair” day but rather that someone was off their meds. As Trump frequently demonstrates a bombastic nature with a non-functioning filter to refine his every whim and thought, he has more recently exhibited a deep dark side that has emerged for many Americans to witness.
The nature of the Act itself, the sheer violence of obliterating another human being beyond recognition, appeared to not be enough to satisfy the President’s inner lustful rage. He continued over the weekend to issue a score of irrational threats to Iran and unfounded accusations about Soleimani who is now acknowledged as architect of the successful campaign to defeat ISIS in Iraq and Syria. Despite the false bravado, Trump’s media blast was less a show of strength and courage than a horrifying display of one soul’s malevolent nature.
Forty two hours after the assassination, Trump appeared before the VFW’s National Conference where, in a massive disconnect from reality, he suggested: “I withdrew the US from a horrible one sided nuclear deal and Iran is not the same country any more; that I can say. We’ll see what happens but we’re ready to make a real deal; not a deal that was done by the previous administration which was a disaster.“ Is it rational to consider a new nuclear deal with Iran after having just assassinated that country’s most revered military leader?
By Wednesday, in an awkward and somewhat bumbling public appearance from the White House, Trump appeared short of breath and nervous as he spoke the same belligerent rhetoric but in a more mellow tone. He again raised the possibility of a new nuclear deal with Iran: “We must all work together to make a deal with Iran that makes the world a safer and more peaceful place” and “The US is ready to embrace peace with all who seek it” as if the assassination was a long ago forgotten kerfuffle.
As Trump continued to pound on Soleimani in death about destabilizing the Middle East, every word he uttered about terrorists could be easily applied to the US, to himself or to Barack Obama or GW for their never-ending campaign to preserve The Empire.
With a penchant for over-exaggeration, Trump claims that the “US has achieved energy independence” as if it is a done deal. “We are now the number one producer of oil and natural gas anywhere in the world. We are independent and “we do not need Middle East oil.” So let’s take him at his word that the US has truly achieved long term reliable energy independence; then let’s immediately initiate an exit strategy from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Saudi Arabia and where ever else US troops are protecting pipelines.
The Iranians are long term, big picture thinkers and they might see the wisdom of going through the motions of a new deal with the US but the smart money is on a covert act that will claim a fitting justice for Soleimani as it is time for Israel to fight its own battles.
Original Posted BY Renee Parsonson 13 Jan 2020 At Global Research (https://www.globalresearch.ca/primordial-urge-slay-hero/5700401) Renee Parsons has been a member of the ACLU’s Florida State Board of Directors and President of the ACLU Treasure Coast Chapter. She has been an elected public official in Colorado, an environmental lobbyist with Friends of the Earth and staff member in the US House of Representatives in Washington, DC.
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Carrying a diplomatic passport on his flight into Baghdad, Soleimani was also carrying the Iranian response to a Saudi initiative for peace.
OMG! Trump killed the messenger who was delivering words of peace! The Middle East was about to have peace until Trump blew up the messenger!
Wiz, has it ever occurred to you if Iran truly wants peace with Saudi Arabia, they'd send another messenger? Email works too.
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Carrying a diplomatic passport on his flight into Baghdad, Soleimani was also carrying the Iranian response to a Saudi initiative for peace.
OMG! Trump killed the messenger who was delivering words of peace! The Middle East was about to have peace until Trump blew up the messenger!
Wiz, has it ever occurred to you if Iran truly wants peace with Saudi Arabia, they'd send another messenger? Email works too.
BillyB,
Has it crossed your mind that you have gone insane?
You appear to be on this board day and night and whenever I am visiting you are around. Am I to understand that you have not s family to attend and occupy your empty life or you dread going to bed because your sleep is disturbed with the images of Ho Chi Ming?
One thing I will tell you. Your Criminal President has opened too many fronts and your Empire.....pretty soon will start going down!
Remember what Manny said ..... You have not won any war!
His Friend in Russia... today has cleared the dead wood and 5th colon of the Atlandists and Jewish enemies to move to the next stage......not only defend his country but also the Bear will show his teeth too!
quote from the article: "Trump has vehemently opposed Iraq’s deal with China unless Mahdi would guarantee that 50% of Iraq’s oil revenue would go to the US. Mahdi refused and when he refused to reject the contract, he said that Trump “threatened to unleash huge demonstrations against me that would end my premiership.”
So your Don Corleone has revealed his real leadership qualities of an international Pimp!
That explains the fear we can all see on the face of his wife, when they are together!
:sick0012:
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Carrying a diplomatic passport on his flight into Baghdad, Soleimani was also carrying the Iranian response to a Saudi initiative for peace.
OMG! Trump killed the messenger who was delivering words of peace! The Middle East was about to have peace until Trump blew up the messenger!
Wiz, has it ever occurred to you if Iran truly wants peace with Saudi Arabia, they'd send another messenger? Email works too.
BillyB,
Has it crossed your mind that you have gone insane?
You appear to be on this board day and night and whenever I am visiting you are around. Am I to understand that you have not s family to attend and occupy your empty life or you dread going to bed because your sleep is disturbed with the images of Ho Chi Ming?
One thing I will tell you. Your Criminal President has opened too many fronts and your Empire.....pretty soon will start going down!
Remember what Manny said ..... You have not won any war!
His Friend in Russia... today has cleared the dead wood and 5th colon of the Atlandists and Jewish enemies to move to the next stage......not only defend his country but also the Bear will show his teeth too!
quote from the article: "Trump has vehemently opposed Iraq’s deal with China unless Mahdi would guarantee that 50% of Iraq’s oil revenue would go to the US. Mahdi refused and when he refused to reject the contract, he said that Trump “threatened to unleash huge demonstrations against me that would end my premiership.”
So your Don Corleone has revealed his real leadership qualities of an international Pimp!
That explains the fear we can all see on the face of his wife, when they are together!
:sick0012:
Who is going insane? Sounds like you are, “wiz”. :ROFL:
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Has it crossed your mind that you have gone insane?
You appear to be on this board day and night and whenever I am visiting you are around. Am I to understand that you have not s family to attend and occupy your empty life or you dread going to bed because your sleep is disturbed with the images of Ho Chi Ming?
Wiz, my computer is on 24/7. I'm not on the computer 24/7 but when you see that I'm logged on every time you are, you will get the impression I'm watching you so better behave!
Remember what Manny said ..... You have not won any war!
I didn't participate in that debate but America has won every war it's ever been in. The last time America declared war is in WWII. Conflicts you read about that America participated in like the one in Vietnam was not officially war. If America declared war, we'd advance to Hanoi. Since there was no war, we stayed put down south to help our friends defend their nation. In Iraq, the purpose of that was to push Iraq out of Kuwait, not take their land. The purpose of the second action on Iraq was because Saddam violated UN resolutions, not take their land. Cold War you might ask? Who do you think won it? America's official declarations of war below.
http://outsidethewire.armytimes.com/2014/06/17/how-many-times-has-the-u-s-declared-war-see-all-11-declarations/
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Carrying a diplomatic passport on his flight into Baghdad, Soleimani was also carrying the Iranian response to a Saudi initiative for peace.
OMG! Trump killed the messenger who was delivering words of peace! The Middle East was about to have peace until Trump blew up the messenger!
Wiz, has it ever occurred to you if Iran truly wants peace with Saudi Arabia, they'd send another messenger? Email works too.
BillyB,
Has it crossed your mind that you have gone insane?
You appear to be on this board day and night and whenever I am visiting you are around. Am I to understand that you have not s family to attend and occupy your empty life or you dread going to bed because your sleep is disturbed with the images of Ho Chi Ming?
One thing I will tell you. Your Criminal President has opened too many fronts and your Empire.....pretty soon will start going down!
Remember what Manny said ..... You have not won any war!
His Friend in Russia... today has cleared the dead wood and 5th colon of the Atlandists and Jewish enemies to move to the next stage......not only defend his country but also the Bear will show his teeth too!
quote from the article: "Trump has vehemently opposed Iraq’s deal with China unless Mahdi would guarantee that 50% of Iraq’s oil revenue would go to the US. Mahdi refused and when he refused to reject the contract, he said that Trump “threatened to unleash huge demonstrations against me that would end my premiership.”
So your Don Corleone has revealed his real leadership qualities of an international Pimp!
That explains the fear we can all see on the face of his wife, when they are together!
:sick0012:
Who is going insane? Sounds like you are, “wiz”. :ROFL:
(http://www.yannis.me.uk/PHOTOS/E/Other_images/self-esteem.jpg)
:Stickouttongue2:
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Carrying a diplomatic passport on his flight into Baghdad, Soleimani was also carrying the Iranian response to a Saudi initiative for peace.
OMG! Trump killed the messenger who was delivering words of peace! The Middle East was about to have peace until Trump blew up the messenger!
Wiz, has it ever occurred to you if Iran truly wants peace with Saudi Arabia, they'd send another messenger? Email works too.
Who better to deliver the message? If he would be sincere about it then they would know it was for real.
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Conflicts you read about that America participated in like the one in Vietnam was not officially war. If America declared war, we'd advance to Hanoi. Since there was no war, we stayed put down south to help our friends defend their nation.
You tell that to little children who were naked running from the napalm bombs as the US army decimated their town
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Has it crossed your mind that you have gone insane?
You appear to be on this board day and night and whenever I am visiting you are around. Am I to understand that you have not s family to attend and occupy your empty life or you dread going to bed because your sleep is disturbed with the images of Ho Chi Ming?
Wiz, my computer is on 24/7. I'm not on the computer 24/7 but when you see that I'm logged on every time you are, you will get the impression I'm watching you so better behave!
Billy do you think you are talking to somebody who just finished the primary school?
Have you missed the fact that every message has a date and time stamp?
Additionally I do not have the need to wear glasses to read... unlike some of the older members.
Remember what Manny said ..... You have not won any war!
I didn't participate in that debate but America has won every war it's ever been in. The last time America declared war is in WWII. Conflicts you read about that America participated in like the one in Vietnam was not officially war. If America declared war, we'd advance to Hanoi. Since there was no war, we stayed put down south to help our friends defend their nation. In Iraq, the purpose of that was to push Iraq out of Kuwait, not take their land. The purpose of the second action on Iraq was because Saddam violated UN resolutions, not take their land. Cold War you might ask? Who do you think won it? America's official declarations of war below.
http://outsidethewire.armytimes.com/2014/06/17/how-many-times-has-the-u-s-declared-war-see-all-11-declarations/
Can somebody explain to me what is the difference of "declare was" and taking part in a "conflic" between North and "South Vietnam".... which you say "was not officially war". What a lot of bollocks you are talking.
Also may I remind you that it was the father George Bush who attacked Iraq and made Sadam to get out of Kuwait and later his son G.W BUsh together with Tony Blair bombed and invaded Iraq.... looking to find the Mass Destruction bombs..... .....but in reality USA stolen all foreign and Gold assets.
Find somebody else and talk rubbish......I finished the Primary school many many years ago.
S Manny said.... you have not won any war in teh past 80 years.... and it was USSR who won the WWII. You started invading foreign countries since 1945 and have been looting their assets, natural resources and everything you could put your hands on.
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/01/article-0-136433DA000005DC-963_634x406.jpg)
Crying children, including 9-year-old Kim Phuc, center, run down Route 1 near Trang Bang,
Vietnam after an aerial napalm attack on suspected Viet Cong hiding places
as South Vietnamese forces from the 25th Division walk behind them
tiphat
Thanks Mark....for the post that you made while I was searching to find the right photo... and I agree with your comments....... :thumbsup:
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Yea that doesn’t look like war to me! Imagine what they would call it if that were foreign forces and US children?
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Yea that doesn’t look like war to me! Imagine what they would call it if that were foreign forces and US children?
Words such as humanitarian disaster, war crime, terrorist and torture all spring to mind. Interestingly the caption for the image above is rather misleading and downplays the story. The little girl was naked because napalm had landed on her, burning her clothes off and, of course, the skin below. The burns were so bad that she was not expected to survive. It was 10 years before she could move properly again. She still undergoes treatment for the burns and suffers pain as a result of them.
To be 'fair' the planes dropping the napalm bombs were South Vietnamese air force, not USAF. The targeting coordinators were USAian.
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Not to forgive the use of indiscriminate bombing of Laos and Vietnam by the US, but where the Soviets 'angels' in Afghanistan ?
Of course the Kremlin denies it's troops are ever anywhere there's action - so may be this is the 21C 'tactic' ?
Deny and Obfuscate
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Yea that doesn’t look like war to me! Imagine what they would call it if that were foreign forces and US children?
Words such as humanitarian disaster, war crime, terrorist and torture all spring to mind. Interestingly the caption for the image above is rather misleading and downplays the story. The little girl was naked because napalm had landed on her, burning her clothes off and, of course, the skin below. The burns were so bad that she was not expected to survive. It was 10 years before she could move properly again. She still undergoes treatment for the burns and suffers pain as a result of them.
To be 'fair' the planes dropping the napalm bombs were South Vietnamese air force, not USAF. The targeting coordinators were USAian.
Hopefully someday war will be obsolete and warmongers will go to prison even for attempts to deceive the public into war.
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Not to forgive the use of indiscriminate bombing of Laos and Vietnam by the US, but where the Soviets 'angels' in Afghanistan ?
Of course the Kremlin denies it's troops are ever anywhere there's action - so may be this is the 21C 'tactic' ?
Deny and Obfuscate
Were the Russians invited by the then Government of Afghanistan and how many years were there? Was it 8 years and also who was supplying the Taliban with arms? ...... Was it by any chance the USA? ..... What happened after the Russians left ?
Did G.W Bush and the US invaded Afghanistan together with the Brits, after 9/11?
Have you noticed that 20 years down the line they are still there?
Can't blame them really as they take care and harvest the Best Poppy's on the world. After all smoking pot is not illegal in most states in the US.
Refresh your memory! Need a Refresher on the War in Afghanistan? Here Are the Basics (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/21/world/asia/afghanistan-war-explainer.html)
You know very well that the USSR/Russia and the USA always play their proxy games......not directly but in somebody's else garden.
Sorry I forgot to mention that, the US after WWII, have been visiting several countries providing charity supplies and relief until they are flattened.
tiphat
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Yea that doesn’t look like war to me! Imagine what they would call it if that were foreign forces and US children?
Words such as humanitarian disaster, war crime, terrorist and torture all spring to mind. Interestingly the caption for the image above is rather misleading and downplays the story. The little girl was naked because napalm had landed on her, burning her clothes off and, of course, the skin below. The burns were so bad that she was not expected to survive. It was 10 years before she could move properly again. She still undergoes treatment for the burns and suffers pain as a result of them.
To be 'fair' the planes dropping the napalm bombs were South Vietnamese air force, not USAF. The targeting coordinators were USAian.
Hopefully someday war will be obsolete and warmongers will go to prison even for attempts to deceive the public into war.
(http://www.yannis.me.uk/PHOTOS/E/Other_images/why%20we%20have%20wars.jpg)
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Who better to deliver the message? If he would be sincere about it then they would know it was for real.
If the General had something important to say to Saudi Arabia, he should've went straight there instead of farting around in Iraq. Priorities first! Regardless, if Iran is sincere in wanting peace, they'll send another messenger who can deliver the Supreme Leader's words verbatim.
To be 'fair' the planes dropping the napalm bombs were South Vietnamese air force, not USAF.
Doesn't matter if you educate people. The photo is a great propaganda piece that people will continue to use and tell the story as they see fit.
Hopefully someday war will be obsolete
You have big dreams. Start small. First lets make fighting on the forum obsolete and go from there.
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Hopefully someday war will be obsolete
You have big dreams. Start small. First lets make fighting on the forum obsolete and go from there.
It is only you who is fighting to prove to prove to yourself that ...... Black is White, unlike us, Europeans who we are debating .....with facts, that your don't like.
:8)
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Those last ones Bill are worryingly accurate.
Who better to deliver the message? If he would be sincere about it then they would know it was for real.
If the General had something important to say to Saudi Arabia, he should've went straight there instead of farting around in Iraq. Priorities first! Regardless, if Iran is sincere in wanting peace, they'll send another messenger who can deliver the Supreme Leader's words verbatim.
To be 'fair' the planes dropping the napalm bombs were South Vietnamese air force, not USAF.
Doesn't matter if you educate people. The photo is a great propaganda piece that people will continue to use and tell the story as they see fit.
Hopefully someday war will be obsolete
You have big dreams. Start small. First lets make fighting on the forum obsolete and go from there.
No those are different things Billy.
Arguing is good for the mind, this is why there are debate teams at better schools.
OTOH making harmful weapons and killing people isn’t good for the human race. It’s obviously not good for the person being killed, neither is it good for the moral compass of those doing the killing.
This is how the American people have been conned in to acceptance of genocide of civilians, whether it’s Gaza civilians or Syrian or Iraqi.
We’ve been conditioned to not care about human lives and suffering as long as they’re not our own and we believe elaborate lies like “the war on terror” instead of recognizing the fraud of it all.
Hopefully someday you’ll join us. 😎
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Hopefully someday war will be obsolete
You have big dreams. Start small. First lets make fighting on the forum obsolete and go from there.
It is only you who is fighting to prove to prove to yourself that ...... Black is White, unlike us, Europeans who we are debating .....with facts, that your don't like.
Wiz if you’re going to denounce war you must denounce both sides, otherwise you’re a hypocrite.
You must denounce Russian aggression in Ukraine and denounce Iranian acts of war in Iran and elsewhere. Etc.
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Arguing is good for the mind, this is why there are debate teams at better schools.
Some people argue the place you're living in is bad and it needs to be wiped off the map. It's all innocent debate until they have enough power to actually make their dreams come true.
OTOH making harmful weapons and killing people isn’t good for the human race. It’s obviously not good for the person being killed, neither is it good for the moral compass of those doing the killing.
Lions aren't going to give up their teeth, claws and killing of other animals. It's in their nature. It's what's in our nature. Name one society in the human race throughout history that gave up weapons and have prospered. Russia is going to do their thing. China is going to do their thing. Iran is going to do their thing. Doing nothing isn't a solution. America is going to do their thing. Some people aren't liken it. May the best man win.
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So Billy how long should we stay in Afghanistan? Another 20 years? It’s a loser, but that’s what Globalists want. A bankrupt USA. We’re now 21 Trillion in debt.
https://humanevents.com/2019/12/18/its-time-to-leave-afghanistan/
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So Billy how long should we stay in Afghanistan? Another 20 years? It’s a loser, but that’s what Globalists want.
I don't have the answer to that. Afghanis don't seem to be wanting to take responsibility for their own security. If we leave, the radicals will take over again and it'll be a hotbed for terrorist organizations. It costs money to stay in Afghanistan. It cost a lot of money when 9/11 happened. Economies around the world took a hit. We could save money by getting rid of the cops in our neighborhood. Too many is expensive. Too little is expensive too when the criminals take over.
We’re now 21 Trillion in debt.
Don't let that number scare you. Media and politicians want to scare you. Media says it to make Trump look bad his policies have no control on debt. Politicians say it to scare you into voting for them because they advertise they have the fix. Truth is America is doing well. We have controlling shares on the IMF and World Bank because we have the most money to loan. Countries like China buy up our debt not to help us, but to help themselves. They manipulate their currency but they also try to manipulate ours. They buy our debt so our dollar remains strong and with a strong dollar, we are more likely to buy their stuff. The rumor that if China takes wants their money back, it'll bankrupt us is BS. They'll hurt themselves more than us.
Most of our debt is owed to ourselves in Social Security, military pensions, Federal Reserve and the private sector.
http://www.businessinsider.com/who-we-owe-federal-debt-to-2013-10
When it comes to external debt, we are owed more than we owe to other countries which makes sense because we have the most money to loan.
http://www.titlemax.com/discovery-center/money-finance/debts-owed-by-the-us-and-owed-to-the-us/
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I suggest you actually read the article I posted about Afghanistan. The time to leave is now. It’s a boondoggle and a scam. You claim to be a Veteran. Maybe you should listen to the wisdom of Veterans who say these wars are futile.
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Oh, I forgot. You think 9/11 was a scam. Bush should've picked a better country to pin the blame on. Canada and Mexico have oil and are easier to attack.
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America has won every war it's ever been in.
Does it say that on the bumper sticker on the back of your pick up truck? :chuckle:
What an untrue and absurd statement.
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You claim to be a Veteran. Maybe you should listen to the wisdom of Veterans who say these wars are futile.
Every veteran is allowed to have an opinion. We all aren't going to agree with each other. A real soldier doesn't fight what's in front of him. He fights for what is behind him. I happen to believe Afghanistan housed the terrorists responsible for 9/11. They paid the price already. The question is do we leave and let terrorists run the show again or do we stay. What is cheaper in money and lives? It's up to the president. I believe Trump wants us out but after evaluating the situation, it's not as easy a decision as he once thought. Obama wanted us out too.
What an untrue and absurd statement.
When you see a nation get America unified and fired up enough to get Congress to actually declare war on them, you will see America dominate and remain undefeated. I showed you all the war declarations America made. We haven't lost any wars.
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Canada and Mexico have oil and are easier to attack.
The people of Canada and Mexico, hold more value to the US public so it's much easier targeting villainized brown people who live in the desert.
The US has murdered many innocent people over the last 50 years yet outcry on happens when the targets are white or share the same ideology.
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Not to forgive the use of indiscriminate bombing of Laos and Vietnam by the US, but where the Soviets 'angels' in Afghanistan ?
Of course the Kremlin denies it's troops are ever anywhere there's action - so may be this is the 21C 'tactic' ?
Deny and Obfuscate
Were the Russians invited by the then Government of Afghanistan and how many years were there? Was it 8 years and also who was supplying the Taliban with arms? ...... Was it by any chance the USA? ..... What happened after the Russians left
Poor 'old Wiz and his revisionist history.
1/ The the govt of Afghanistan was a puppet of Moscow
2/ That's like claiming Assad was the elected 'leader' of Syria when he asked for help from the Kremlin..
A clue for you..his Presidential election was a FARCE...even the UN Sec Gen said so..
Did G.W Bush and the US invaded Afghanistan together with the Brits, after 9/11?
The conflict is also known as the US war in Afghanistan. Its public aims were to dismantle al-Qaeda and deny it a safe base of operations in Afghanistan by removing the Taliban from power. That's a quote from Wiki, btw
Of course the Talibhan did not 'invite' the coalition.
Have you noticed that 20 years down the line they are still there?
Do the Taliban control 90 percent of the country?
Are Pakistan allowing them free reign?
Unlike you, Wiz..I can see beyond the end of my nose..
Can't blame them really as they take care and harvest the Best Poppy's on the world. After all smoking pot is not illegal in most states in the US.
One makes HEROINE from Poppies...not 'weed' you ignoramus.
That is what happens when you.quote when out of your depth...
You know very well that the USSR/Russia and the USA always play their proxy games......not directly but in somebody's else garden.
In the case of Afghanistan only a total muppet would fail to note direct involvement by both the former USSR and USA...
Another dunce's hat for Wiz.
Sorry I forgot to mention that, the US after WWII, have been visiting several countries providing charity supplies and relief until they are flattened.
I realise English is not your first language, so can you explain?
If you mean US removing leaders like in Chile and their playing off the dumb Greek military junta in Greece re Cyprus...then, sure..the anti Communist wackos played too much ..but did you think Moscow were choir boys?
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Has it crossed your mind that you have gone insane?
You appear to be on this board day and night and whenever I am visiting you are around. Am I to understand that you have not s family to attend and occupy your empty life or you dread going to bed because your sleep is disturbed with the images of Ho Chi Ming?
Wiz, my computer is on 24/7. I'm not on the computer 24/7 but when you see that I'm logged on every time you are, you will get the impression I'm watching you so better behave!
In the for what it is worth department I can log out and yet to the other members it still shows I am in logged in.
For others this might in fact be a good thing, when they attempt to swerve mind you.
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Canada and Mexico have oil and are easier to attack.
The people of Canada and Mexico, hold more value to the US public so it's much easier targeting villainized brown people who live in the desert.
The US has murdered many innocent people over the last 50 years yet outcry on happens when the targets are white or share the same ideology.
You can insert at least a dozen other nations in place of the United States for murdering innocents in the last 50 years. When brown, white, black or yellow* people are murdered and it is because of the actions of the US military there is, especially with the present president, a large outcry and lots of noise from the Congress.
* So far we have not murdered any blue people, must be colour discrimination!
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Hopefully someday war will be obsolete
You have big dreams. Start small. First lets make fighting on the forum obsolete and go from there.
It is only you who is fighting to prove to prove to yourself that ...... Black is White, unlike us, Europeans who we are debating .....with facts, that your don't like.
Wiz if you’re going to denounce war you must denounce both sides, otherwise you’re a hypocrite.
You must denounce Russian aggression in Ukraine and denounce Iranian acts of war in Iran and elsewhere. Etc.
Firstly let me make something clear. This is a board where conversations and debates take place about a huge number of subjects and we do not fight any wars!
BillyB obviously is living in a world of his own, and still is fighting his own war against communists who happen to be everywhere, in his view.
I can assure you that I have no Allegiance to Russia and will criticize Russia if I see that they behave in a bad way, as does your country.
Just for your information I happen to be in Kiev when the Orange revolution took place........ and everybody knew who was behind it......... Victoria Nuland, in a speech confirmed that USA has spend $5 Billion for the Orange revolution and also when when the US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt together with Victoria Nuland organised the coup in Kiev.......in 2014.
Russia always had a good relationship with Kiev and had an agreement for the bases in Crimea but Russia/Putin realised what USA and Germany .were planning for Crimea so they acted Fast to protect their interests.
Have you ever been to Ukraine?
I have been several time and was selling holidays there........ but your country fcuked royally!
If I see Russia behaving badly I will not hesitate to criticize it!
tiphat
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One makes HEROINE from Poppies...not 'weed' you ignoramus.
Actually, a heroine is a heroic woman, the product manufactured from poppies is heroin.
Any ignoramus knows that. :ROFL:
That is what happens when you.quote when out of your depth...
Quite. :smileysherlock:
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America has won every war it's ever been in.
Does it say that on the bumper sticker on the back of your pick up truck? :chuckle:
What an untrue and absurd statement.
Billy must be a paid troll for bankers and the mic.
We sure as hell didn’t win anything in Afghanistan, but they did.
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The people of Canada and Mexico, hold more value to the US public so it's much easier targeting villainized brown people who live in the desert.
The US has murdered many innocent people over the last 50 years yet outcry on happens when the targets are white or share the same ideology.
America has troops stationed around the world by invitation from countries in Africa, Middle East, and Asia. We are protecting black, brown, and yellow people from potential invaders who are black, brown, and yellow. America can be friends or enemies of Iran. Just depends on the leadership there. We are not obligated to be friends with those who are hostile towards us.
America also participated in Europe's third most deadliest war last century defending Muslims from the Christians in the 90's former Yugoslavia.
BillyB obviously is living in a world of his own,
I live in reality. Would you like to join me? Wiz, if you could wipe one country off the face of this earth to make the world a better place, which country would that be? Would you put Confederate out of a home? I know there are people that would take away Confederate's home and punish him no matter how nice he is. Wars will never be obsolete. We should always be ready to defend out way of life because there's always going to be somebody out there that wants to take it away.
Billy must be a paid troll for bankers and the mic.
Thanks for reminding me about pay. I'm going to the mailbox right now to see if U.S. Bank check sent me a check. If my pay got doubled, the trolling gets doubled!
Confederate, it's not the banks that want war, it's people out there that are genuinely interested in wiping you out. Maybe because they're jealous of your and/or your country's success.
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America has won every war it's ever been in.
Does it say that on the bumper sticker on the back of your pick up truck? :chuckle:
What an untrue and absurd statement.
Billy must be a paid troll for bankers and the mic.
We sure as hell didn’t win anything in Afghanistan, but they did.
SORRY YOU ARE WRONG....... USA won every war, as BillyB says......and trillions for the defence Industry that kick started, your economy, one more time.! :-X
After supplying the Taliban with Arms and helping Osama Bilanden to create Al Qaeda, I read somewhere that the rich father of Osama Bilanden was on friendly terms with the GW Bush, Senior ! ;D ........ you managed to push the Russians out Of Afghanistan.
Well let's not forget that President Obama, send an ops....... in Afghanistan and killed Osama Bilanden, to take revenge for organising from his cave the 9/11 atrocity in New York. :ROFL:
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After supplying the Taliban with Arms and helping Osama Bilanden to create Al Qaeda, I read somewhere that the rich father of Osama Bilanden was on friendly terms with the GW Bush, Senior ! ;D ........ you managed to push the Russians out Of Afghanistan.
Wiz, it's past midnight in the UK. It's currently past 2 AM there as I type this. Is talking about Osama Bin Misbehaving worth losing sleep? When America armed Osama, it was business. America wasn't looking for a new friend. We were looking to keep Russia out of Afghanistan. Do you agree with Russia's invasion? You haven't criticized them for bad behavior and you haven't praised America for punishing bad behavior.
You did not answer my question about if you can wipe one country off the map, which would it be? Don't worry about hurting people's feelings. Confederate needs to know that there are people that would take joy in wiping out his country. Although they don't want to wipe out Confederate, they can accept him getting wiped out as acceptable along with his country for the greater good.
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The people of Canada and Mexico, hold more value to the US public so it's much easier targeting villainized brown people who live in the desert.
The US has murdered many innocent people over the last 50 years yet outcry on happens when the targets are white or share the same ideology.
America has troops stationed around the world by invitation from countries in Africa, Middle East, and Asia. We are protecting black, brown, and yellow people from potential invaders who are black, brown, and yellow. America can be friends or enemies of Iran. Just depends on the leadership there. We are not obligated to be friends with those who are hostile towards us.
America also participated in Europe's third most deadliest war last century defending Muslims from the Christians in the 90's former Yugoslavia.
Do you think you are talking to children at the primary school?
Sometime ago I posted the following Video..... watch it and Learn and stop talking lies.
Confessions of an Economic Hitman
Regarding Yugoslavia, Josip Tito was a Yugoslav communist revolutionary and statesman, serving in various roles from 1943 until his death in 1980. Josip Tito during World War II was the leader of the Partisans, often regarded as the most effective resistance movement in occupied Europe. After the world he managed to unite the small nations around Serbia and created a very strong country, friendly with the USSR but not party of it.
After Tito's death, Slobodan Milošević, a Serbian politician served as the President of Serbia from 1989 to 1997 and President of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia from 1997 to 2000.
Yugoslavia was exerting a lot of influence in the Balkans, so President Clinton decided to destroy the Yugoslavia together with NATO allies. Soon civil war broke in Yugoslavia.....many of its members asking to become independent. So the US and Nato started bombings of Serbia and completely destroyed all it's infrastructure but still remains out of NATO and EU.
BillyB obviously is living in a world of his own,
I live in reality. Would you like to join me? Wiz, if you could wipe one country off the face of this earth to make the world a better place, which country would that be? Would you put Confederate out of a home? I know there are people that would take away Confederate's home and punish him no matter how nice he is. Wars will never be obsolete. We should always be ready to defend out way of life because there's always going to be somebody out there that wants to take it away.
Your reality has nothing to do with the current world state. I would sent a mission to get Confed out of California....and send him to Greece.......for sunshine, and you back to Vietnam to practice you mother tongue in their courts.
For the past 70 years it appears the USA has brought a lot of happiness and prosperity around the world, starting after the end of WWII, when the GB was bust. USA provided a lot of support and "Saved" my birth country Greece from the Commies, supplying arms and planes to the right wing Greek Collaborators with Germany. Germany and the Civil war together with the families that have collaborated with the Germans, destroyed my country with ALSO the help of USA, ever since.
Listen to this song and translate the words on the post I have made there.... and when you understand what they mean.... for us the Greeks........then you may change your views and attitude. I do not expect you really care for any body else except your self!
Billy Don't worry about my sleep......
Just for your info yesterday I had a pre-check and service of my 30 yrs VW Golf, changed 2 back wheel bearings as today Early in the Morning at 9.30 Had a car check for the MOT (Ministry of Transport) that was due TO EXPIRE On the 21 Jan. MY 30 yrs classic car Passed and I have another year to go..... except if somebody makes me an offer I can't refuse.......Then I had to drive about 1.30 hour to visit my grand daughters in North London.......Later at around 5 pm picked up Hanna from work..... and after dinner at 6 om went to bed ... wake up at 11. pm. At around 1 am I was listening and took part in a radio program in Greece, telling my co-patriots what to expect and must do coming to work in the UK. So I am still wide awake and left my wife to rest...poor girl. .When you get old you do not need a lot of hours sleep...!
Meanwhile end of the month going to Cyprus to meet Moby and his New wife, HE IS WAITING ME WITH OPEN ARMS. I have relatives there so must make arrangements see them otherwise......I will be the black sheep.
Finally Billy USA plays the world policeman not for the benefit of its people but for the benefit of your Banksters and the large Conglomerates which pay the "expenses " of your politicians in their pockets. Of course I will advice Confed..... to stay home.....or come and visit me on holiday bringing with him my 5 Grandchildren from SFO and then Whoosh and you are back in Vietnam singing Ho Chi Ming, hiding in the river with a bamboo in his mouth to breath under water.
You and your Government will be enough to wipe out and make obsolete.......the rest can work an earn happily.......without any holidays abroad.......
It is 4.15 am that I am posting this one. Happy?
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One makes HEROINE from Poppies...not 'weed' you ignoramus.
Actually, a heroine is a heroic woman, the product manufactured from poppies is heroin.
Any ignoramus knows that. :ROFL:
That is what happens when you.quote when out of your depth...
Quite. :smileysherlock:
More "natural English" from our supposed native English speaker...no wonder no oligarchs hired you :ROFL:
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One makes HEROINE from Poppies...not 'weed' you ignoramus.
Actually, a heroine is a heroic woman, the product manufactured from poppies is heroin.
Any ignoramus knows that. :ROFL:
That is what happens when you.quote when out of your depth...
Quite. :smileysherlock:
:ROFL: tiphat
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Billy Bob wrote:
Confederate, it's not the banks that want war, it's people out there that are genuinely interested in wiping you out.
Quite frankly it’s hard to imagine an American yet alone a fellow human being who is this brainwashed, gullible, thickheaded and unknowing, yet here we have his words as proof.
In the first place the war in Afghanistan alone is estimated to have cost two Trillion dollars. The USA didn’t have that kind of money in the bank, so we borrowed it from the “Federal Reseeve”. The Fed isn’t Federal at all, that’s just a catchy name to deceive gullible ones like Billy. The Fed is actually private and controlled by the Rothschild banking cartel in London. So yes bankers were eager to make more illegitimate profits off of human suffering.
Then we have the biggest whopper of all, the notion that people in the Middle East want to “wipe us out”. There isn’t a credible threat from any of the ragtag cave dwellers in Afghanistan nor any of the ragtag scum in Iraq. The false narrative of “weapons of mass destruction” was discredited. There is no credible threat from either country, this is just a con job for gullible sheep.
The goal of these wars is to bankrupt the USA and to weaken the established citizenry through excessive immigration. Europe has suffered the worst of it, a tidal wave of Muslim immigrants caused by wars in Iraq, Libya and Syria. Being an immigrant himself Billy makes light of it. Both the brains and the backbone of America were WASP immigrants in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries; not something guys like Billy would likely wish to acknowledge.
The only war for national defense is right here on American soil. One of the main reasons both the FBI and CIA have colluded to harm President Trump is because he came out during his campaign prior to winning as being against these endless wars. Manny has written about Chinese and Russian attempts to weaken the dollar. Even AvHdB is aware that the US economy is due for a reckoning. Time will tell what will happen to the US empire over the next fifty years. Having a dumb downed citizenry doesn’t help.
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It’s time to face the facts. Our massive financial and military expenditure has bought us nothing. Any supposed national progress has been a total mirage. The American people were lied to for over a decade. Since 2001, the United States has spent nearly $2 trillion and has deployed over 700,000 Americans. Over 2,300 of those soldiers were killed, and another 20,000 were wounded. The 2,000 pages of interview notes from those involved in the war demonstrate that both the Bush and Obama administrations deliberately withheld the truth from the American people.
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Just for your information I happen to be in Kiev when the Orange revolution took place........ and everybody knew who was behind it......... Victoria Nuland, in a speech confirmed that USA has spend $5 Billion for the Orange revolution and also when when the US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt together with Victoria Nuland organised the coup in Kiev.......in 2014.
Wiz, to call you a revisionist or a poster with a selective filter and memory is almost a compliment.
But what you are saying is a simple lie. The United States was so far out of the loop about the ouster of the convicted criminal V. Yanukovych, during the so-called Orange Revolution that is was almost at the time embarrassing to be an American in Kiev. V. Nuland was a student or perhaps just entering the foreign service and I have no clue what G. Pyatt was doing. I also was present during the first days of that 'revolution'.
In the end both sides in the Borderlands were at the time glad to be rid of V. Yanukovych, at the times the hatred for him was palatable on the streets. It was his own avarice and stupidity that got him ousted. The next time around he hired P. Manafort who for a time was considered the most disdained foreigner in Ukraine. That he was convicted and is in jail, albeit for different crimes is fine by me.
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Carrying a diplomatic passport on his flight into Baghdad, Soleimani was also carrying the Iranian response to a Saudi initiative for peace.
OMG! Trump killed the messenger who was delivering words of peace! The Middle East was about to have peace until Trump blew up the messenger!
Wiz, has it ever occurred to you if Iran truly wants peace with Saudi Arabia, they'd send another messenger? Email works too.
"Something is Rotten in the State of Denmark"
Until now I have not read any news that Q. Soleimani was carrying any sort of peace initiative or involved in negotiations to resolve any conflicts in the Middle East. Supposedly there was an exchange of options between various players, but all parties concerned have provided no further evidence. It becomes almost absurd to contemplate this was an attempt at creating long term peace in the region.
From the T. Stoppard play, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead are the following lines:
“We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered.”
“Look on every exit as being an entrance somewhere else.”
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More "natural English" from our supposed native English speaker...no wonder no oligarchs hired you :ROFL:
Which only goes to prove you have NO idea what I do away from here
Now back to my point ..
Wiz does't know the difference between HeroIN and 'Weed' ..
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In the first place the war in Afghanistan alone is estimated to have cost two Trillion dollars.
9/11 was the second time the World Trade Center was bombed. Guess how much it would cost if Financial Centers would continually get bombed if we had a do nothing policy? Police cost taxpayer money too. Should we get rid of the police to save money in your neighborhood? There's always a cost for security. Sometimes it cost more, sometimes less, but there is a need and there is a cost.
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Then we have the biggest whopper of all, the notion that people in the Middle East want to “wipe us out”.
Somebody please translate those "Death to America" signs for Confederate. Of course Iran can't wipe us out now. First they'll take over our friends and their oil in the Middle East and grow into a bigger power. They sponsor terrorisms that hurts America and it's friends. Thank God you're not president because all our friends would leave us if not by their will, but because someone would take them over.
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In the first place the war in Afghanistan alone is estimated to have cost two Trillion dollars.
9/11 was the second time the World Trade Center was bombed. Guess how much it would cost if Financial Centers would continually get bombed if we had a do nothing policy? Police cost taxpayer money too. Should we get rid of the police to save money in your neighborhood? There's always a cost for security. Sometimes it cost more, sometimes less, but there is a need and there is a cost.
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Then we have the biggest whopper of all, the notion that people in the Middle East want to “wipe us out”.
Somebody please translate those "Death to America" signs for Confederate. Of course Iran can't wipe us out now. First they'll take over our friends and their oil in the Middle East and grow into a bigger power. They sponsor terrorisms that hurts America and it's friends. Thank God you're not president because all our friends would leave us if not by their will, but because someone would take them over.
Oh that’s right, Billy Bob still thinks some guys from a cave in Afghanistan pulled off 9/11. Simple physics be damned, Billy saw the magic trick with his own eyes! :ROFL:
A fifth grader could tell you that 9/11 was a controlled demolition but Billy Bob doesn’t believe in the laws of physics. Like all other gullible sheep he believes they were suspended for a day.
Then there’s Dick Cheney himself admitting they never proved it was Bin Laden.
Josef Stalin famously said:
“The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. The public will clamor for such laws (Patriot Act) if their personal security is threatened”.
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Billy Bob then goes on to whine about Iran chanting “death to America”. So what? What else FFS are they supposed to chant? We invaded their space, not the other way around. The sooner we leave the Middle East, where we clearly don’t belong, the better.
A fifth grader could tell the World that the USA is the INVADER and Iran and others are INHABITANTS of the region. Not complicated for a fifth grader!
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“This, however, is not worth the current U.S. investment. In December 2018, the Department of Defense concluded that most jihadists in Afghanistan were not focused on attacking the U.S. homeland but rather domestically on Afghanistan”.
And our friends and allies? They support the deal negotiated by Obama.
“Iran struck the deal in 2015 with the United States, France, Germany, the United Kingdom, Russia and China. It has, however, been damaged by Trump's decision to unilaterally abandon it in 2018 and to impose sanctions that have hurt Iran's economy”.
https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/eu-ministers-support-iran-deal-fear-isis-resurgence-1.614319
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Oh that’s right, Billy Bob still thinks some guys from a cave in Afghanistan pulled off 9/11.
Those cavemen kept a superpower, Soviet Union, from taking over their caves. You think they're dumb? I don't think you could achieve what they have achieved.
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Oh that’s right, Billy Bob still thinks some guys from a cave in Afghanistan pulled off 9/11.
Those cavemen kept a superpower, Soviet Union, from taking over their caves. You think they're dumb? I don't think you could achieve what they have achieved.
Oh please. Trained by the CIA, until no longer needed. Tim Osman aka OBL.
http://www.yogaesoteric.net/content.aspx?lang=EN&item=16196
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Oh that’s right, Billy Bob still thinks some guys from a cave in Afghanistan pulled off 9/11.
Those cavemen kept a superpower, Soviet Union, from taking over their caves. You think they're dumb? I don't think you could achieve what they have achieved.
Oh please. Trained by the CIA, until no longer needed. Tim Osman aka OBL.
http://www.yogaesoteric.net/content.aspx?lang=EN&item=16196
Just because an article is posted on a yoga website doesn't make it true. Look at the object Tim Osman is holding. They didn't make walkie talkies like that or have Satellite phones in the 70's. Photo is phony. America worked with OBL regardless of codenames since they both wanted to keep the USSR out of Afghanistan. If the CIA considered OBL an asset, he has to be smarter than a caveman, don't you think?
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Oh that’s right, Billy Bob still thinks some guys from a cave in Afghanistan pulled off 9/11.
Those cavemen kept a superpower, Soviet Union, from taking over their caves. You think they're dumb? I don't think you could achieve what they have achieved.
Oh please. Trained by the CIA, until no longer needed. Tim Osman aka OBL.
http://www.yogaesoteric.net/content.aspx?lang=EN&item=16196
Just because an article is posted on a yoga website doesn't make it true. Look at the object Tim Osman is holding. They didn't make walkie talkies like that or have Satellite phones in the 70's. Photo is phony. America worked with OBL regardless of codenames since they both wanted to keep the USSR out of Afghanistan. If the CIA considered OBL an asset, he has to be smarter than a caveman, don't you think?
More deflections by you and your handlers don’t arrest the laws of physics.
Dear reader please notice that those who wish to confuse you with misinformation never acknowledge the obvious.
Anyone who wishes to engage with this jackal can do so.
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Meanwhile the fake news media continues to enable the deep state by refusing to cover important events having to do with 9/11.
July 2019
“History was made this month in regard to 9/11 as New York area fire commissioners called for a new investigation into the tragic events that unfolded that day. The resolution called for a new investigation due to the “overwhelming evidence” that “pre-planted explosives . . . caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings.”
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/911-fire-fighters-new-investigation-explosives/
”We’re a tight-knit community and we never forget our fallen brothers and sisters. You better believe that when the entire fire service of New York State is on board, we will be an unstoppable force,” said Commissioner Christopher Gioia, adding, “We were the first fire district to pass this resolution. We won’t be the last.”
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In other news Elvis is still alive and working for the federal government at the DEA(Drug Enforcement Agency). Don't believe me? READ the article below for overwhelming evidence and eye witness accounts.
http://www.elvis-is-alive.com/
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Just because an article is posted on a yoga website doesn't make it true. Look at the object Tim Osman is holding. They didn't make walkie talkies like that or have Satellite phones in the 70's. Photo is phony.
The dream and goal of satellite communications has been around from the mid 1960's with both Soviet and Western nations and firms doing planning. Actual handheld satellite phones were available from about 1997 onwards. A western company tied to Motorola was Iridium launching numerous satellites. The successor nations of the Soviet Union have their own network from about the same period.
Some of the articles on the Yoga esoteric web site are far removed from reality. Both Ms and Andrew can elaborate further and fill and correct my comments. BUT with out doubt we are far removed from the topic of the title of this thread.
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Problems
The official narrative stretches credibility beyond breaking point as far as bin Laden's planning capabilities as regards 9/11. It provides no explanation of the innumerable improbable 'coincidences' such as the lack of US air defence, the multiple simultaneous exercises, and the destruction of steel reinforced sky scrapers by fire etc. Perhaps most tellingly of all, evidence implicating Bin Laden and Al Qaeda in the 9-11 attacks was never presented, and the topic of his guilt or innocence was more or less censored from the commercially-controlled media's coverage.
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The official narrative prefers not to talk about the CIA's links with bin Laden. Wikipedia does note that "It has been claimed that the CIA had ties with Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda". In actuality Osama bin Laden was a full-time CIA operative starting in the 1980's with the Soviet war in Afghanistan and continuing in the late 1990's and leading up to 9-11.[1]”
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden
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It provides no explanation of the innumerable improbable 'coincidences' such as the lack of US air defence,
There are 87,000 flights in America each day. If a few flights want to fly into buildings, you expect air defenses to be able to figure who the suicidal pilots are and act before they fly into a building? There are more passenger flights in the air at any given time than we have fighter jets that can shoot them down. I don't have time to address your other "coincidences"
http://www.rightthisminute.com/video/tracking-87000-flights-day
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For those really seeking the truth and not here because they’re bored or paid to post boorish strawman arguments, it’s important to know that Al Queda and ISIS are what is known as constructed “boogie men”. These boogie men are constructed and then used to cause fear in the general population, to justify astronomical defense budgets and to facilitate the Orwellian spy state against the American population.
There is and never was a legitimate “war on terror” which is an oxymoron.
Quoting Gore Vidal:
“Little Bush says we are at war, but we are not at war because to be at war Congress has to vote for it. He says we are at war on terror, but that is a metaphor, though I doubt if he knows what that means. It's like having a war on dandruff, it's endless and pointless”.
There were never any real threats to the USA or the U.K., only a nefarious plot to attempt to justify wars where we steal oil and other assets and weaken Muslim countries in the Middle East which are enemies of Israel.
https://politicalvelcraft.org/2017/08/16/americas-cia-israels-mossad-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/
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Link above
“The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan, General William Odom recently remarked, “by any measure the U.S. has long used terrorism. In 1978-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the U.S. would be in violation.”
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Gore Vidal on Eisenhower:
“Eisenhower managed to begin the Vietnam war by not following his normal instinct of staying out of mischief. In his memoirs, he tells us why we didn't honor the Geneva accords and hold elections in Vietnam: because some 80 percent of the country would have voted for Ho Chi Minh. This is very candid. The sort of thing one might have found in Stalin'smemoirs, had he not made ghosts even of ghosts”.
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paid to post boorish strawman arguments
My check from Israel arrived today and I got a raise. I've got new orders to increase the boorish strawman arguments in hopes you'll change your mind.
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"We will give three million dollars to anyone who kills Trump,"
:money:
https://www.euronews.com/2020/01/21/iran-mp-offers-three-million-dollar-bounty-to-whoever-kills-trump