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General Discussion => General Chat => Topic started by: Contrarian on January 09, 2020, 08:35:52 AM
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Palace civil war? Harry and Meghan made an announcement without clearing it with the queen. This came as a shock apparently!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/09/duchess-sussex-accused-exploiting-husbandfor-gain-biographer/
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Get them off the civil list and let them clear off to the US, Great. :thumbsup:
Apparently, they want to make money in the US, Meg's Merch or some such. :chuckle:
I always thought he was a bit of a wet lettuce. He ain't going to be king so he can clear off with his PC diva wife and stop freeloading for me. He can take Air Miles Andy and his hangers on with him too.
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Really! In fact seems they enjoyed Vancouver Island and were spotted out and about in Victoria BC during their Christmas Holiday in BC. Also Megan worked here in Toronto for years while filming the "Suits" series so very likely they could settle in Canada rather than the USA. Just saying. Will have to wait and see.
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Get them off the civil list and let them clear off to the US, Great. :thumbsup:
Apparently, they want to make money in the US, Meg's Merch or some such. :chuckle:
I always thought he was a bit of a wet lettuce. He ain't going to be king so he can clear off with his PC diva wife and stop freeloading for me. He can take Air Miles Andy and his hangers on with him too.
How do you really feel? :laugh:
I suspect he’s going to divorce her in about 3 years.
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Manny you can bet where ever they are you will be paying for them.
Us too actually ???
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Manny you can bet where ever they are you will be paying for them.
Us too actually ???
Doesn't the Royals properties bring in enough tourism dollars these days to the point they don't need taxpayer dollars to live off of?
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Manny you can bet where ever they are you will be paying for them.
Us too actually ???
Doesn't the Royals properties bring in enough tourism dollars these days to the point they don't need taxpayer dollars to live off of?
Yes but we pay for them on top while their cash pile grows.
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Manny you can bet where ever they are you will be paying for them.
Us too actually ???
Doesn't the Royals properties bring in enough tourism dollars these days to the point they don't need taxpayer dollars to live off of?
Yes but we pay for them on top while their cash pile grows.
Isn’t it against the law to complain about Queens wealth?
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The problem is clear:
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Prince harry is a little hypercritical cock any way.. and where the hell did his old man get so many medals from?? he has done jack shit all his life...
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The Queen has been a stabilizing force behind the UK Government since WWII... Should be careful not to ruin one of the largest Tourism revenue generators for the UK that being the royals - not to mention all of the Royals TV shows and documentaries revenues... sympathies to her majesty for all of this turmoil in her family.
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On a lighter note, if the Royals were gone I wonder how many British tabloids would go broke.
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Get them off the civil list and let them clear off to the US, Great. :thumbsup:
Apparently, they want to make money in the US, Meg's Merch or some such. :chuckle:
I always thought he was a bit of a wet lettuce. He ain't going to be king so he can clear off with his PC diva wife and stop freeloading for me. He can take Air Miles Andy and his hangers on with him too.
Manny and his 'expertise'
For those of us who have encountered Harry and his antics as a teenager ... He was banned from one of my fav pubs, he partook of the weed he was a spoilt teenager with ( rightfully) some anger issues towards the press
He served in the military and loved it - highlighted the plight of injured / maimed and gave them hope with his Invictus games project and married a commoner who wasn't totally white ..
Personally, speaking I thought he was a twat when younger and he has redeemed himself many times over ..
He has pissed off his Gran by making a decision with his wife and I hope they win their legal cases with the British tabloids who made Harry's Mum's life a misery and make a go of it ..
They've probably had far more press than their decision warranted and they're not going to find it easy - as they may end up 'whoring themselves' with the very body of low-lives they've sought to escape / keep a distance from
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Palace meeting planned.
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a30480205/prince-harry-sussex-summit-queen-charles-william/
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A military friend of Prince Harry offers an opinion. I agree that Prince Harry believes he must protect his wife and child.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/prince-harrys-friend-offers-theory-about-his-and-meghan-markles-royal-exit/ar-BBYRsIS
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I like it when the little dip shit tries to kind of blame some of his life on his mothers death...
Yeah right!! Plenty of young kids out there lost both parents in a car accident, mother died of a brain tumor .. father was killed in action and so on.. difference with most they dont have millions to at least get on with life in some way..
A little like when the twat turns up at climate conventions in his hippy sandals and linen trousers or hemp.. trying to make out he is some kind of echo warrior. :ROFL:
Of course he arrives in a private jet polluting the atmosphere as he says.. BUT pays some carbon tax to offset that :ROFL:
Yes a right little tosser if you ask me!!
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Manny and his 'expertise'
Moby and his expertise.
True story. I once stood outside #10 Downing street so I will now claim
expertise in all things British. I once stood next to a Beafeater so now I
will claim infinite knowledge and wisdom on issues regarding the Queen,
her guard and of the tower of London.
Yes, I am an expert and all should wither if they try to make any arguments
that disagree with my world view.
I saw Pope John Paul II drive by in the Pope-Mobile in Rome so I also seek
recognition as the foremost expert in too many fields to discuss here, but
my vast experience invalidates all others who will at some future date
disagree with me.
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Here’s my take on it.
Harry’s a beta male who has been guilt tripped and brainwashed into giving up his ‘white male privilege’, and as a result, his independence. Rationed on sex and under the thumb, with veiled threats of divorce unless he gives in. She will end up being unfaithful to him.
She’s a manipulative woman who will do what’s necessary to serve herself. Marrying into the royal family for the fame, money and attention she craves, she now forces her new husband to abandon his own family, as she did hers.
Never liked the girl but in all honesty, if it’s another freeloader off the tax payers gravy train....then hand back your wealth and see you later!
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All I know about Harry is from what I read and of course much of what is written is the opinion of the author with an agenda. I don't dislike Harry and I don't believe everything I read about his wife either. I suspect they do more good than bad so that makes them better than most people.
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Here’s my take on it.
Harry’s a beta male who has been guilt tripped and brainwashed into giving up his ‘white male privilege’, and as a result, his independence. Rationed on sex and under the thumb, with veiled threats of divorce unless he gives in. She will end up being unfaithful to him.
She’s a manipulative woman who will do what’s necessary to serve herself. Marrying into the royal family for the fame, money and attention she craves, she now forces her new husband to abandon his own family, as she did hers.
Never liked the girl but in all honesty, if it’s another freeloader off the tax payers gravy train....then hand back your wealth and see you later!
Not quite going to save the taxpayer any money.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/harry-meghan-s-progressive-role-would-still-rely-british-taxpayer-n1113441
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Here’s my take on it.
Harry’s a beta male
He's a Beta and a ginger dating way out of his league.
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He's a Beta and a ginger dating way out of his league.
I don't think he's dating... Harry married mulatto Meghan in May of '18 (unless you are suggesting an extramarital affair - of which that group is known to partake).
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Here’s my take on it.
Harry’s a beta male
He's a Beta and a ginger dating way out of his league.
As Lord of the Dance just wrote, he’s not dating.
Furthermore he could have done a lot better and married a proper British lass.
Chances are if he had done that, none of these problems would be happening.
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This driven not by his wife but by his mother.
He is worried that Megan will not be able to cope in the long term with the press. For her part, Megan has commented how different the reality is from her experience and expectations.
Harry has a responsibility to his wife and kid(s) and is seeking a way to manage their lives in a way that they can all cope with.
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Our Prime Minister has agreed to pay for their security while here.
estimated at $1.3 million per year. Considering only here part time,
likely under estimated.
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This driven not by his wife but by his mother.
He is worried that Megan will not be able to cope in the long term with the press. For her part, Megan has commented how different the reality is from her experience and expectations.
Harry has a responsibility to his wife and kid(s) and is seeking a way to manage their lives in a way that they can all cope with.
Well said. Here’s an article which alleges a double standard in the press.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal
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Harry speaks about his mother and how her battle with the press has affected this decision. And Meghan talks about her frustration with the press.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/prince-harry-meghan-markle-unfair-british-tabloid-press?bfsource=relatedmanual
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Harry speaks about his mother and how her battle with the press has affected this decision. And Meghan talks about her frustration with the press.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/prince-harry-meghan-markle-unfair-british-tabloid-press?bfsource=relatedmanual
It must be hell not to have a moment's peace (or any secrets) from the paparazzi.
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....and married a commoner who wasn't totally white ..
I missed this nugget first time round. Only a pleb would bring race into the discussion, as some sort of guilt trip to win a point.
Classic libtard tactic.
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how do you Brits feel about Harry marrying an American gal?
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Always hear this sort of crap... It is the same for many normal people in life.. I know some people who are pretty wealthy in the Uk have had the family business for generations and it has always been family tradition to go work in that business.. (Most are to dumb to do anything else)
One of my friends told me his son was going to make his own way in life.. move over seas do this and do that and not be stuck in the family factory .. yeah right really!! So he spent his two years traveling to Ozzie telling everyone he was a man of the world going to live in Ozzie and so on.. dad would always send him a few bob .. and dad would tell everyone what a hero he was .. :laugh:
But as always when the time comes ... you know where he returned with his tail behind his legs? dads factory :laugh:
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how do you Brits feel about Harry marrying an American gal?
I dont give a hoot who he marries, I just dont want to pay for it.
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Well considering they are already worth 30 million, even if they don't take another penny
this will not have to go on food stamps right away lol.
I suspect they will be taken care of in the UK and Canada on tax payers dime.
you can post as much as you want about it.
you can do Breixt but you can't do royalex :ROFL:
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The media are calling her departure Megxit. :chuckle:
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how do you Brits feel about Harry marrying an American gal?
I think most people have a problem with a royal marrying a divorcee, not an American. The last time a British royal married an American divorcee, he gave up his crown.
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how do you Brits feel about Harry marrying an American gal?
I think most people have a problem with a royal marrying a divorcee, not an American. The last time a British royal married an American divorcee, he gave up his crown.
I dont think that would cross anyone's mind nowadays here. Of more concern to many might be her ethnicity. Diana was frowned upon for consorting with an Egyptian (she had a relationship with an Indian or Pakistani doctor as well IIRC). And then she died in an accident. Many say those two things were connected as the royal family couldn't tolerate a mixed marriage/child. The royals are a tad more relaxed about that nowadays (or have to pretend to be to look inclusive, woke and relevant). But I'd suggest a fair chunk of Brits - if asked - would prefer to see a prince marry a nice white girl from a well-heeled family. As Kate was.
I suppose being American, she kind of circumvents the class structure. But her parents left us in no doubt as to her class. :chuckle:
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Funny thing about Brits and class.
but If I were looking at class, I would not look to UK.
To be honest in 21st century, I doubt real class exists anymore.
If it does, not likely where you would think.
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how do you Brits feel about Harry marrying an American gal?
I dont give a hoot who he marries, I just dont want to pay for it.
Fair point.
The media are calling her departure Megxit. :chuckle:
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
B/B
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Hard Megxit!
It didn’t turn out so well for these two. The queen has kicked them to the curb! :laugh:
https://www.insider.com/prince-harry-lands-in-canada-megxit-step-away-royal-duties-2020-1
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More
https://www.insider.com/princess-diana-chef-furious-prince-harry-leaving-family-2020-1
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Ouch! :laugh:
https://woai.iheart.com/content/2020-01-25-prince-harry-meghan-markle-wedding-souvenirs-removed-from-royal-collection/
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Ouch! :laugh:
https://woai.iheart.com/content/2020-01-25-prince-harry-meghan-markle-wedding-souvenirs-removed-from-royal-collection/
Sounds like their china range isn't the only thing to sell out, lol.
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I missed this nugget first time round. Only a pleb would bring race into the discussion, as some sort of guilt trip to win a point.
Classic libtard tactic.
You bit ... and the 'monkey' shyte in some UK and other nations newspapers proves I'm not the first to notice the race element
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Diana was frowned upon for consorting with an Egyptian (she had a relationship with an Indian or Pakistani doctor as well IIRC).
But I'd suggest a fair chunk of Brits - if asked - would prefer to see a prince marry a nice white girl from a well-heeled family. As Kate was.
Jeez,
This post says it all about EVERYTHING that is wrong about the 'fair chunk' ..
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Diana was frowned upon for consorting with an Egyptian (she had a relationship with an Indian or Pakistani doctor as well IIRC).
But I'd suggest a fair chunk of Brits - if asked - would prefer to see a prince marry a nice white girl from a well-heeled family. As Kate was.
Jeez,
This post says it all about EVERYTHING that is wrong about the 'fair chunk' ..
Perhaps, but they exist.
Most of the people bothered about the royals are older folk I'd say. The views and prejudices of that generation does not fade away because the BBC tells them they should. Those views are entrenched in a fair chunk of society right across the class spectrum, and certainly well embedded in the aristocracy.
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Perhaps, but they exist.
Most of the people bothered about the royals are older folk I'd say. The views and prejudices of that generation does not fade away because the BBC tells them they should. Those views are entrenched in a fair chunk of society right across the class spectrum, and certainly well embedded in the aristocracy.
:ROFL:
do tell us when the BBC 'told us' how to think .. You seem to be confusing it with other channels from truly govt run nations
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Diana was frowned upon for consorting with an Egyptian (she had a relationship with an Indian or Pakistani doctor as well IIRC).
But I'd suggest a fair chunk of Brits - if asked - would prefer to see a prince marry a nice white girl from a well-heeled family. As Kate was.
Jeez,
This post says it all about EVERYTHING that is wrong about the 'fair chunk' ..
Perhaps, but they exist.
Most of the people bothered about the royals are older folk I'd say. The views and prejudices of that generation does not fade away because the BBC tells them they should. Those views are entrenched in a fair chunk of society right across the class spectrum, and certainly well embedded in the aristocracy.
No one sane would suggest that it’s “prejudiced” that the Japanese Emperor was expected to marry a Japanese Princess, why is it considered prejudiced by some that an English Prince marry an actual English woman, which also means white?
It took a thousand years for England to become what it is and for the people to become who they are, and you’re worried about the opinions of subversive jerks who want to destroy you from within? Eff that. They’re never going to respect you to begin with and they respect you even less when weak characters in society fall for their PC Commie crap.
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In the history of the World this is likely the first time a woman has kissed a Prince and turned him into a frog. :chuckle:
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how do you Brits feel about Harry marrying an American gal?
I think most people have a problem with a royal marrying a divorcee, not an American. The last time a British royal married an American divorcee, he gave up his crown.
From that period of history.
There once was a King named Ed
Who with Ms Simpson went to bed
After knowing the sensation
Said to hell with the coronation
Let me brother be King instead.
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Diana was frowned upon for consorting with an Egyptian (she had a relationship with an Indian or Pakistani doctor as well IIRC).
But I'd suggest a fair chunk of Brits - if asked - would prefer to see a prince marry a nice white girl from a well-heeled family. As Kate was.
Jeez,
This post says it all about EVERYTHING that is wrong about the 'fair chunk' ..
Perhaps, but they exist.
Most of the people bothered about the royals are older folk I'd say. The views and prejudices of that generation does not fade away because the BBC tells them they should. Those views are entrenched in a fair chunk of society right across the class spectrum, and certainly well embedded in the aristocracy.
No one sane would suggest that it’s “prejudiced” that the Japanese Emperor was expected to marry a Japanese Princess, why is it considered prejudiced by some that an English Prince marry an actual English woman, which also means white?
It took a thousand years for England to become what it is and for the people to become who they are, and you’re worried about the opinions of subversive jerks who want to destroy you from within? Eff that. They’re never going to respect you to begin with and they respect you even less when weak characters in society fall for their PC Commie crap.
Well.... yes and no..
I believe if the ginger lad loves the half caste American girl then he should marry her if he wants to - as he did. Who are we to tell him he can't?
Ethnicity used to be a barrier - I don't think it is much any more. Nobody really cares that much about that now. Culture is more of an issue now. What white bloke would want his daughter marrying into the Muslims? I wouldn't.
So as a white guy you like white Russian women you think? You might not like Africans but what about the Asiatic looking Russian speaking women from Kazakhstan (https://www.instagram.com/kapronka.kz/?hl=en)?
Look at this girl in our sidebar from Ukraine (http://www.loveme.com/go/49654/342?referer=http%253A%252F%252Fruadventures.com%252Fforum%252Findex.php%253Faction%253Dpost%253Bquote%253D504277%253Btopic%253D28625.25%253Blast_msg%253D504282). Can you be sure she hasn't got Arabic blood in her? Would you say she is a 100% white girl? Would you think less of her if she wasn't? If so, why?
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Diana was frowned upon for consorting with an Egyptian (she had a relationship with an Indian or Pakistani doctor as well IIRC).
But I'd suggest a fair chunk of Brits - if asked - would prefer to see a prince marry a nice white girl from a well-heeled family. As Kate was.
Jeez,
This post says it all about EVERYTHING that is wrong about the 'fair chunk' ..
Perhaps, but they exist.
Most of the people bothered about the royals are older folk I'd say. The views and prejudices of that generation does not fade away because the BBC tells them they should. Those views are entrenched in a fair chunk of society right across the class spectrum, and certainly well embedded in the aristocracy.
No one sane would suggest that it’s “prejudiced” that the Japanese Emperor was expected to marry a Japanese Princess, why is it considered prejudiced by some that an English Prince marry an actual English woman, which also means white?
It took a thousand years for England to become what it is and for the people to become who they are, and you’re worried about the opinions of subversive jerks who want to destroy you from within? Eff that. They’re never going to respect you to begin with and they respect you even less when weak characters in society fall for their PC Commie crap.
Well.... yes and no..
I believe if the ginger lad loves the half caste American girl then he should marry her if he wants to - as he did. Who are we to tell him he can't?
Ethnicity used to be a barrier - I don't think it is much any more. Nobody really cares that much about that now. Culture is more of an issue now. What white bloke would want his daughter marrying into the Muslims? I wouldn't.
So as a white guy you like white Russian women you think? You might not like Africans but what about the Asiatic looking Russian speaking women from Kazakhstan (https://www.instagram.com/kapronka.kz/?hl=en)?
Look at this girl in our sidebar from Ukraine (http://www.loveme.com/go/49654/342?referer=http%253A%252F%252Fruadventures.com%252Fforum%252Findex.php%253Faction%253Dpost%253Bquote%253D504277%253Btopic%253D28625.25%253Blast_msg%253D504282). Can you be sure she hasn't got Arabic blood in her? Would you say she is a 100% white girl? Would you think less of her if she wasn't? If so, why?
If Harry had been a commoner then certainly what you’re saying is true, he could have married any gal he was in love with and it wouldn’t have mattered much except for the feelings and opinions of his parents and close friends.
As it is his choice of a bride was too important to be so reckless. I see Meghan as a drama queen and trouble maker and sadly don’t believe it will end well. I’m sure she must have some redeeming qualities but let some other bloke discover them was my opinion. I don’t believe my opinion is in the minority either.
I’m sure the gals you mentioned are fine women but they wouldn’t be my choice. My time is likely passed but if I had a choice blood and soil would be a top consideration meaning white and European.
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No one sane would suggest that it's "prejudiced" that the Japanese Emperor was expected to marry a Japanese Princess, why is it considered prejudiced by some that an English Prince marry an actual English woman, which also means white?
Unlike the Japanese dynasty - the UK has a long history of Royals marrying from other nations, religions .. :coffeeread: Could you remind us where the Queen's husband was born and his parentage ( hint : Greek / Danish )
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Diana was frowned upon for consorting with an Egyptian (she had a relationship with an Indian or Pakistani doctor as well IIRC).
But I'd suggest a fair chunk of Brits - if asked - would prefer to see a prince marry a nice white girl from a well-heeled family. As Kate was.
Jeez,
This post says it all about EVERYTHING that is wrong about the 'fair chunk' ..
Perhaps, but they exist.
Most of the people bothered about the royals are older folk I'd say. The views and prejudices of that generation does not fade away because the BBC tells them they should. Those views are entrenched in a fair chunk of society right across the class spectrum, and certainly well embedded in the aristocracy.
No one sane would suggest that it’s “prejudiced” that the Japanese Emperor was expected to marry a Japanese Princess, why is it considered prejudiced by some that an English Prince marry an actual English woman, which also means white?
It took a thousand years for England to become what it is and for the people to become who they are, and you’re worried about the opinions of subversive jerks who want to destroy you from within? Eff that. They’re never going to respect you to begin with and they respect you even less when weak characters in society fall for their PC Commie crap.
I like your train of thought.
Why is it ok for the non anglosphere to want to preserve their culture and heritage by being exclusive and limiting diversity from uncontrolled mass immigration but not for the anglocentric and eurozone where the pc brigade cry ‘raaaaycist’ at the drop of a hat to any suggestion that, actually, limiting immigration and preserving one’s culture is a good thing?
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I like your train of thought.
Why is it ok for the non anglosphere to want to preserve their culture and heritage by being exclusive and limiting diversity from uncontrolled mass immigration
It isn't ..the topic is Harry and Meghan
but not for the anglocentric and eurozone where the pc brigade cry ‘raaaaycist’ at the drop of a hat to any suggestion that, actually, limiting immigration and preserving one’s culture is a good thing?
Given many members on here are from a nation whereby the immigrants invaded and took over said nation and imposed it's values on the indigenous population and now seeks to limit others - that's an interesting point ..
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If Harry had been a commoner then certainly what you’re saying is true, he could have married any gal he was in love with and it wouldn’t have mattered much except for the feelings and opinions of his parents and close friends.
I think it doesn't matter because he wont be king. I always thought it was a bit of a PR stunt, let him marry a half African woman, nod to the Commonwealth. An American, cement the "special relationship". A fuzzy thinking lefty feminist, appeal to the Mobys of the world. Plenty of PC boxes ticked there to keep them all looking modern and relevant. They want to hang onto the cash and not be booted out. They must be seen to be relevant and changing with the times. As a PR stunt, her arrival was meant to be a masterstroke I'd suggest.
As it is his choice of a bride was too important to be so reckless. I see Meghan as a drama queen and trouble maker and sadly don’t believe it will end well. I’m sure she must have some redeeming qualities but let some other bloke discover them was my opinion. I don’t believe my opinion is in the minority either.
I agree with that. She has trouble and hard work written all over her.
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I don't think Meghan even looks black and I wasn't aware she was 'black' (even though she's half white) until my newsfeed informed me so. My opinion of her has nothing to do with race.
From what I've seen of her, she appears to be a manipulative drama queen who has trouble written all over her. If you think she just happened to meet a prince and fall in love with him, then you probably also think that beauty and the beast was real.
She knew what she was doing when she hunted him down, being a royal was an attractive prospect for a young woman chasing the limelight. Seemingly, she no longer wants that life and like she's done with her own parents, she's blackmailed Harry into him turning his back on his own.
She's trouble and she has a bagful of issues piled up in a dumpster, wheeling along behind her. She's the modern 3rd wave feminist dog, who would replace men with a floor suction dildo, and lesbianism, so she can shun any meaningful, natural relationship with the opposite sex, and as a result be eternally unfulfilled as her hatred deepens to the point of her committing suicide from hopeless despondency and rotting in hell. :laugh:
That's why she's not fit for being a royal and that's why she's so unpopular. I bet she'll ditch Harry some time down the road, divorce him and possibly even cheat on him.
Harry will be left looking for his balls in the lost property box and begging for his estranged family to take him back. If I gave a shit, I'd feel sorry for the ginger lad, as he sits in Canada eating his vegetarian meals and watching all female chat shows, demonising men! >:(
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Why is it ok for the non anglosphere to want to preserve their culture and heritage by being exclusive and limiting diversity from uncontrolled mass immigration
It isn't ..
So are you saying it's not ok for the Japanese, Luxembourg or Saudi royalty, to marry their own? Are you suggesting they're racist now too? Because that's just what you've posted above.
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The FBI want to question Andrew ..Fine ! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51271871 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51271871)
Send back the US citizen -Anne Sacoolas - that may have killed a - Harry Dunn - a British kid - whilst driving as if in America ( did a flit -claiming Diplomatic immunity - after promising to help the Police ) and 'we'll' do a swap
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/world/europe/harry-dunn-anne-sacoolas-crash.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/world/europe/harry-dunn-anne-sacoolas-crash.html)
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I think it doesn't matter because he wont be king. I always thought it was a bit of a PR stunt, let him marry a half African woman, nod to the Commonwealth. An American, cement the "special relationship". A fuzzy thinking lefty feminist, appeal to the Mobys of the world. Plenty of PC boxes ticked there to keep them all looking modern and relevant. They want to hang onto the cash and not be booted out. They must be seen to be relevant and changing with the times. As a PR stunt, her arrival was meant to be a masterstroke I'd suggest.
I'd suggest you stop thinking ..
1/ Harry was indeed unlikely to be King
2/ He clearly chose the woman HE wanted - I mean the Palace did 'SO' well choosing his Ma and telling Andrew he couldn't marry Koo Stark
It should be pretty clear he married who HE wanted to ..
Thanks for the mention as a 'lefty' again - 'accurate' as ever ;)
I agree with that. She has trouble and hard work written all over her.
When did you meet her to form such an 'opinion' ?
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The FBI want to question Andrew ..Fine ! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51271871 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51271871)
Send back the US citizen -Anne Sacoolas - that may have killed a - Harry Dunn - a British kid - whilst driving as if in America ( did a flit -claiming Diplomatic immunity - after promising to help the Police ) and 'we'll' do a swap
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/world/europe/harry-dunn-anne-sacoolas-crash.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/world/europe/harry-dunn-anne-sacoolas-crash.html)
Indeed.
I'd throw both to the dogs.
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So are you saying it's not ok for the Japanese, Luxembourg or Saudi royalty, to marry their own? Are you suggesting they're racist now too? Because that's just what you've posted above.
This is a BAD day for you, rosco !
1/ I didn't know much about the L'bourg Royal Family - but I'd have bet on inter-marriages and - of course there's been lots through the ages ... Spanish, French - you name it
2/ Saudi's ? : they've been like the Brits in the early 20C - killing off rivals to get to the throne - until recently - when the Brits protected Ibn Saud - Kuwaiti and Ottomans influences there ... to name but two
3/ Japan ? Now you really picked a good subject ! The lineage goes back 125 Emperors but all 9 children born into the Royal Family in the past forty years have been FEMALE ... There are conservative folk who were scared of changing the laws to allow succession by seniority - as prior to 2006 -the birth of Prince Hisahito - no male had been born into the family for 40 years ... The conservatives were worried about a Princess succeeding and marrying a foreigner and having a blue- eyed Emperor )
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They separated approximately 18 months after the marriage, and were granted a no-fault divorce in August 2013, citing irreconcilable differences.
You dated each other for seven years, then get married and after over a year, you cannot stand each other? (:)
I hope that it will not be déjà vu again this time. :duh: :-\
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I don't think Meghan even looks black and I wasn't aware she was 'black' (even though she's half white) until my newsfeed informed me so. My opinion of her has nothing to do with race.
From what I've seen of her, she appears to be a manipulative drama queen who has trouble written all over her. If you think she just happened to meet a prince and fall in love with him, then you probably also think that beauty and the beast was real.
She knew what she was doing when she hunted him down, being a royal was an attractive prospect for a young woman chasing the limelight. Seemingly, she no longer wants that life and like she's done with her own parents, she's blackmailed Harry into him turning his back on his own.
She's trouble and she has a bagful of issues piled up in a dumpster, wheeling along behind her. She's the modern 3rd wave feminist dog, who would replace men with a floor suction dildo, and lesbianism, so she can shun any meaningful, natural relationship with the opposite sex, and as a result be eternally unfulfilled as her hatred deepens to the point of her committing suicide from hopeless despondency and rotting in hell. :laugh:
That's why she's not fit for being a royal and that's why she's so unpopular. I bet she'll ditch Harry some time down the road, divorce him and possibly even cheat on him.
Harry will be left looking for his balls in the lost property box and begging for his estranged family to take him back. If I gave a shit, I'd feel sorry for the ginger lad, as he sits in Canada eating his vegetarian meals and watching all female chat shows, demonising men! >:(
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: tiphat
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Went on a hunt for Purell hand sanitizer and 3 Stores all out including CVS... However the Brit Store tabloids the Globe and The National Enquirer had some rather sensational headlines...
Globe... Prime Andrew tried to commit suicide to avoid Lolita Epstein trials #Metoo
The National Enquirer... The Queen angrily stating that &$#@ Meghan is not going to monetize the Royal Family with her Billion Dollar Sussex Royal schemes.
Who knew a hypergamist semi white trash Yank wench could make that much on her husband's former titles...
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https://www.rt.com/uk/488382-anne-sacoolas-interpol-wanted/ (https://www.rt.com/uk/488382-anne-sacoolas-interpol-wanted/)
The US whisked Mrs S - who had agreed to help the Police with their enquiries out the the country ..
Now, she's a wanted women .. a total abuse of Diplomatic Immunity
Interpol has issued a Red Notice for Anne Sacoolas, the wife of a US intelligence official who is wanted in Britain over a car crash which killed teenage motorcyclist Harry Dunn last year.
An email sent to 19-year-old Dunn's parents from the Northamptonshire Police, which was seen by the PA news agency, said that 42-year-old Sacoolas is now “wanted internationally” and “should she leave the USA the wanted circulations should be enacted.” In other words, Sacoolas could be immediately arrested were she now to leave the US.
Dunn was killed in a head-on collision in August 2019 near RAF Croughton in Northamptonshire. Sacoolas, who was driving the vehicle on the wrong side of the road, claimed diplomatic immunity and fled the country.
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Brilliant Oprah global interview drops the Ultimate NEGRO Nuclear Bomb on the Royal Family and the UK in a jaw-dropping interview with Harry and Megxit on national CBS TV.
All of Bloody Britain is RAYCIST against poor Mulatto Mixed Race Meghan Markle and because she is an inheritor of NEGRO Slave Bloodlines and product of a slave trade the created massive wealth for the UK and the Royals... Meghan, Harry and their offspring were in fact cut off from Royal Family Income and that they were therefore no longer to be provided any security in the UK overrun with hostile Islamic Radicals who all want Harry dead for his service fighting against Radical Islamo-ISIS terrorists in the Middle East.
Harry was a brave, loyal and skilled Apache Helicopter Combat Pilot and a heroic role model for Patriotic Young Brits engendering great love and admiration for the Royal Family - and now this Hero of Crown and Country and his Family all high value targets for the ISIS agents rampaging across the United Kingdom and British Commonwealth of Nations is DENIED Security. WTF. Clearly the Oprah Ultimate Nuclear Negro Bomb spells is the end of the Raaaycisst Royals and the Raaaycisst DisUnited Kingdom.
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Can't understand the Royals obsession with recycled old wall banger Divorcees - First King Eddie abdicates then after Diana is Papparazzi-cided Future King Chuckie hooks up with his old married mistress after she divorces her husband and in hypergmist female fashion of the first order trades up for a title - then - Red Headed Step Child Harry decides to stir up the pot with mixed up mixed race Megxit - He could have had his pick of any submissive loyal English Rosebuds and instead throws a couple Royal knocks into her dominatrix highness like a perfect Blue Pill White Knight.
The Royals do protect their own when they want too like Uncle Randy Andy under subpoena in the Ghislane Epstein Madame Mossad Sexscapades.
Megster must have some extraordinary Oral and Klegel skills for Harry to throw away his Crown, Titles and Country for her.
Queenie Oprah insisted on referring to them as Prince Harry and Duchess of Sussex even though they abdicated their titles so they could live in the Billionaires playground of Santa Barbara Beach.
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LOL Seems the Brit viewers up in arms over all the Yank Pharma adverts that sponsored Orpah's epic whineathon - that's Queeenie Oprah for you - She always finds a way to turn a nice profit even though Harry and Megxit insist they were not paid for the interview - shame on them for not being a bit more mercenary now that they have to pay for their own security
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I have zero interest in the Prince Whatshisname and the Markle woman.
Like the Queen, I am not even going to watch it.
I don't think anyone is bothered either way if she is a bit black or not. She's just a spoiled ultra-feminist who is working her hubby like a puppet. They got $7m for the Oprah interview, it's hard to feel sorry for them. Prince marries film star is a good enough story. Why do they want everyone to feel sorry for them? Nobody does.
Camilla Long from the Times (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-royals-are-finally-entering-the-fray-but-its-a-bare-knuckle-fight-they-cant-win-c0cxv7ckf) gives her view:
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You simply cannot tear your eyes away from them — the greige canopy, the sprinkling of English-style meadow flowers to remind American audiences which broken royal family we’re talking about today. His scuffed, grey-on-black shoe/sock combo, her Fulham-sexy, possibly nylon dressing gown, throbbing with sub-Beyoncéan “fertility” energy.
The camera whirls down on Oprah, struggling to contain her excitement at landing her biggest interview since she told Lindsay Lohan to “cut the bullshit”.
“Were you silent,” pounds Oprah to Meghan, as the Kardashian drama music rises, “or were you silenced?”
I don’t think there’s a single person in Britain who doesn’t know the full, unexpurgated answer to this question. Yes, the duchess was silenced — but who wouldn’t want to silence every word of what Oprah cloyingly calls Meghan’s “truth”? Meghan’s “truth”, we’re discovering, is an unstoppable Krakatoa of toxic sniping and petulant Marie Antoinette revelations that is now dragging the entire “Firm”, as even Meghan calls them, down to her level. I’m not sure any of it qualifies as actual “truth” — I’m inclined to believe Meghan wouldn’t know her “truth” if it clopped in on a silver platter from Mohammed bin Salman. But who cares, when there are pregnant pauses to be made and multimillion-dollar deals to be done?
On Wednesday we got the first signs that the Palace — William, really — is finally stepping into this unedifying bare-knuckle fight. The royal family are doing what they usually do when faced with a complicated, difficult, foreign sexpot: they have arranged a trial, presided over, dubiously, by courtiers. Meghan’s a bully, they claim. To which most people said: no, really? Just look at the foul way she spoke to her own father in that letter — she was hardly going to be nicer to her PAs.
There will, of course, be a proper investigation by Buckingham Palace’s HR department, but even this seems laughable — who even knew there was such a thing? Nothing will be enough to stem the flow of radioactive leaks now, no matter how many snowflake courtiers you toss at it. Stuff is already happening at warp speed. In media terms, we’ve reached the freeway and are flying in the chopper 400ft above OJ’s car, clipping the trees as he holds the gun to his head. Don’t they get it?
But unlike in all other royal scandals, there are no signs the car will ever stop. There will always be another interview, another stakes-raising clap back, another round of petty “truth”-telling on what Kate said about tights at the wedding. There will be years of this — attacking the royal family is now Harry and Meghan’s bread and butter. It seems amazing to me the Queen didn’t strip these chancers of their titles and choke off the cash long ago. What do they have to do for that to happen — slap her on live television? If the Palace bullying story is a way of establishing a case to remove their titles, they need to hurry up.
For the royals, this situation is now, to use Oprah’s word, “unsurvivable”. The creaking institution dreamt up by a 25-year-old in 1952 clearly cannot withstand this sort of seamy Meghan v William grudge match, in which at least one of the parties is willing to say almost anything for clicks or viewers. Clutching one’s pearls and screaming, “But she was rude to the staff” is like bringing a tampon to a sub-machinegun fight.
For a British person, it feels strange and devastating. You don’t even have to be that into the royals to feel as if part of our lives is being shredded, one pulsing ad break at a time. It is British reserve v American brashness and balls, and we know who won that fight last time. It’s weird to watch the Queen being dissed by some lightweight who considers the PR manager at Soho House one of her closest friends. It is just wrong.
As for Harry — what sadness. We all know someone who’s been bodysnatched by a partner, cut off from family and friends, iced out of weddings and funerals, grandchildren withheld. Normal people strive for reconciliation: why isn’t that happening here? Instead non-speaks and non-stop oneupmanship is escalating to backstabbing and frontstabbing, all driven by pain. Not only on the part of Meghan and Harry, but William and the others too.
Because deep at the centre of this lies another creeping feeling. Meghan has one solid line of argument: royal life was awful. She probably thought she was going to be fed golden bonbons every day and showered with free dresses. But it isn’t very nice being a royal, is it? Who would want to sign up to the Queen’s arid boot camp of duty and self-denial? Why has the monarch made royal life so unappealing, penitential and hard? It may have worked for her but it hasn’t worked for a single other member of her family, with the exception, perhaps, of Princess Anne, who quietly gets on with it. Because if you had the choice, would you ever inflict being king on your child? You look at the Cambridge children being hustled into their silent nurseries and think: this is cruelty. Harry being made to walk behind his mother’s coffin at 12 was the beginning of the end. It was nothing other than barbaric.
As long as the Duchess of Sussex can convincingly say this, there is no comeback for the Queen. No amount of deploying Prince Edward will hide the fact that making ordinary people — or indeed anyone — be part of the royal family is freakish and inhumane. The only hope they have is that Meghan behaves more unpleasantly than they do — that is to say, more royally than the royals. It’s odd to think their only line of defence so far is to say she is rude to staff — like Prince Andrew, say, or Princess Margaret.
@CamillaLong
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Manny your likely correct,
but the days of the Royals
hiding stuff, covering things up
and demanding everyone follow
along are coming to an end.
With social media, cameras and the world
as it is, somethings are and will change.
Maybe its time the Monarchy catch up a bit.
Funny in Canada, its talked about every year
and more and more people, asking why are we paying
for something that in todays world gives us nothing back,
Some say history, big bill for history.
this years poll hit 84% of people wanting it to change.
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Manny your likely correct,
but the days of the Royals
hiding stuff, covering things up
and demanding everyone follow
along are coming to an end.
With social media, cameras and the world
as it is, somethings are and will change.
Maybe its time the Monarchy catch up a bit.
Funny in Canada, its talked about every year
and more and more people, asking why are we paying
for something that in todays world gives us nothing back,
Some say history, big bill for history.
this years poll hit 84% of people wanting it to change.
The odd thing it is really only the English royalty that attracts such attention, mostly based on there own actions.
The Dutch might have a giggle or occasional sigh about the House of Orange-Nassau and the Swedes with the Carl Gustaf but they rarely is much news. There was an incident I recall in Spain regarding de Borbón's (King Felipe) a few years back but the scandal I believed has subsided. The other European royalty are more or less historical footnotes.
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It is my understanding the British Royals bring more money to the UK than they cost it. Tourist, events, tv shows and so forth they are a cash flow positive for the UK. If you got rid of the royals no one would know where they Uk is in a few decades. They are just about the only part of the UK that gets world wide news coverage.
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Meghan’s a bully, they claim. To which most people said: no, really? Just look at the foul way she spoke to her own father in that letter — she was hardly going to be nicer to her PAs.
There will, of course, be a proper investigation by Buckingham Palace’s HR department, but even this seems laughable — who even knew there was such a thing?
How did the proper investigation of Prince Andrew hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein go? Probably as thorough as the investigation into America's election fraud went.
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It is my understanding the British Royals bring more money to the UK than they cost it. Tourist, events, tv shows and so forth they are a cash flow positive for the UK. If you got rid of the royals no one would know where they Uk is in a few decades. They are just about the only part of the UK that gets world wide news coverage.
That too is accurate.
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Count on Sir Stew of Manchester for Quote of the Week:
For the royals, this situation is now, to use Oprah’s word, “unsurvivable”. The creaking institution dreamt up by a 25-year-old in 1952 clearly cannot withstand this sort of seamy Meghan v William grudge match, in which at least one of the parties is willing to say almost anything for clicks or viewers. Clutching one’s pearls and screaming, “But she was rude to the staff” is like bringing a tampon to a sub-machinegun fight.
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Funny in Canada, its talked about every year
and more and more people, asking why are we paying
for something that in todays world gives us nothing back,
Some say history, big bill for history.
this years poll hit 84% of people wanting it to change.
Canada doesn't pay anything to the royal family. Constitutionally, the Queen is our head of state, however, in reality, that means little. She doesn't open parliament, she doesn't sign bills. The person who does sign bills into law, her representative (governor general), doesn't refuse to do so. So in reality, it is parliament that runs the country, not the Queen or her Canadian representative.
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Funny in Canada, its talked about every year
and more and more people, asking why are we paying
for something that in todays world gives us nothing back,
Some say history, big bill for history.
this years poll hit 84% of people wanting it to change.
Canada doesn't pay anything to the royal family. Constitutionally, the Queen is our head of state, however, in reality, that means little. She doesn't open parliament, she doesn't sign bills. The person who does sign bills into law, her representative (governor general), doesn't refuse to do so. So in reality, it is parliament that runs the country, not the Queen or her Canadian representative.
Actually thats not ture, we pay 3 million a year a year, that amount was released several years ago by Government.
Also your right about the govern general except, look at salary, benefits, life time pension after serveing along with
200,00k year expense account after out of office, they say the lastest disgraced govern general could cost us up to a million a year
for over 10 years. For a job that is nothing but Dog and pony show. We maintain several properties that cost us millions each year
and automatically pay for everything that involves a royal visit by any member of the family.
Its not cheap, its not needed and over 80% of Canadians no longer want it.
I like history, but I suspect we could spend the money on better things.
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Funny in Canada, its talked about every year
and more and more people, asking why are we paying
for something that in todays world gives us nothing back,
Some say history, big bill for history.
this years poll hit 84% of people wanting it to change.
Canada doesn't pay anything to the royal family. Constitutionally, the Queen is our head of state, however, in reality, that means little. She doesn't open parliament, she doesn't sign bills. The person who does sign bills into law, her representative (governor general), doesn't refuse to do so. So in reality, it is parliament that runs the country, not the Queen or her Canadian representative.
Actually thats not ture, we pay 3 million a year a year, that amount was released several years ago by Government.
Also your right about the govern general except, look at salary, benefits, life time pension after serveing along with
200,00k year expense account after out of office, they say the lastest disgraced govern general could cost us up to a million a year
for over 10 years. For a job that is nothing but Dog and pony show. We maintain several properties that cost us millions each year
and automatically pay for everything that involves a royal visit by any member of the family.
Its not cheap, its not needed and over 80% of Canadians no longer want it.
I like history, but I suspect we could spend the money on better things.
Don’t you think whatever institution the Queen/Gov Gen were replaced with would still cost the state?
As for 80% of Canadians not wanting the current system, that may be true. The more ‘diverse’ Canada becomes, the less the ties to the monarchy will be so in time, I’m sure it will be replaced.
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Funny in Canada, its talked about every year
and more and more people, asking why are we paying
for something that in todays world gives us nothing back,
Some say history, big bill for history.
this years poll hit 84% of people wanting it to change.
Canada doesn't pay anything to the royal family. Constitutionally, the Queen is our head of state, however, in reality, that means little. She doesn't open parliament, she doesn't sign bills. The person who does sign bills into law, her representative (governor general), doesn't refuse to do so. So in reality, it is parliament that runs the country, not the Queen or her Canadian representative.
Actually thats not ture, we pay 3 million a year a year, that amount was released several years ago by Government.
Also your right about the govern general except, look at salary, benefits, life time pension after serveing along with
200,00k year expense account after out of office, they say the lastest disgraced govern general could cost us up to a million a year
for over 10 years. For a job that is nothing but Dog and pony show. We maintain several properties that cost us millions each year
and automatically pay for everything that involves a royal visit by any member of the family.
Its not cheap, its not needed and over 80% of Canadians no longer want it.
I like history, but I suspect we could spend the money on better things.
Don’t you think whatever institution the Queen/Gov Gen were replaced with would still cost the state?
As for 80% of Canadians not wanting the current system, that may be true. The more ‘diverse’ Canada becomes, the less the ties to the monarchy will be so in time, I’m sure it will be replaced.
Knowing our Governement you could be right,
but the govern Gerneral is basically the Queens representative
Its more of a show, but technically it has to exist because of our system
and ties to the Monarchy. SO in theory they could eliminate the position.
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Heres a quick article, if this is accurate I am way off and it costs us alot more than I thought.
https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/queen-costs-us-more-than-the-brits-pay/
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Funny in Canada, its talked about every year
and more and more people, asking why are we paying
for something that in todays world gives us nothing back,
Some say history, big bill for history.
this years poll hit 84% of people wanting it to change.
Canada doesn't pay anything to the royal family. Constitutionally, the Queen is our head of state, however, in reality, that means little. She doesn't open parliament, she doesn't sign bills. The person who does sign bills into law, her representative (governor general), doesn't refuse to do so. So in reality, it is parliament that runs the country, not the Queen or her Canadian representative.
Actually thats not ture, we pay 3 million a year a year, that amount was released several years ago by Government.
Also your right about the govern general except, look at salary, benefits, life time pension after serveing along with
200,00k year expense account after out of office, they say the lastest disgraced govern general could cost us up to a million a year
for over 10 years. For a job that is nothing but Dog and pony show. We maintain several properties that cost us millions each year
and automatically pay for everything that involves a royal visit by any member of the family.
Its not cheap, its not needed and over 80% of Canadians no longer want it.
I like history, but I suspect we could spend the money on better things.
We don't pay the Crown anything. The $3 million you are referring to likely is costs on a royal visit to Canada - security, staff at accommodation, etc. But, Canada does that for other world leaders as well. Most of the costs come from the governor general's office and the lieutenant governors.
I agree with Dogsoldier, we would pay the cost of anything that replaced the governor general. The salary really is a drop in the bucket, assuming the PM appoints someone capable of doing the job.
Replacing this system would require a constitutional amendment, and hence, consent of a majority of the provinces. That is unlikely to occur in this country.
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Funny in Canada, its talked about every year
and more and more people, asking why are we paying
for something that in todays world gives us nothing back,
Some say history, big bill for history.
this years poll hit 84% of people wanting it to change.
Canada doesn't pay anything to the royal family. Constitutionally, the Queen is our head of state, however, in reality, that means little. She doesn't open parliament, she doesn't sign bills. The person who does sign bills into law, her representative (governor general), doesn't refuse to do so. So in reality, it is parliament that runs the country, not the Queen or her Canadian representative.
Actually thats not ture, we pay 3 million a year a year, that amount was released several years ago by Government.
Also your right about the govern general except, look at salary, benefits, life time pension after serveing along with
200,00k year expense account after out of office, they say the lastest disgraced govern general could cost us up to a million a year
for over 10 years. For a job that is nothing but Dog and pony show. We maintain several properties that cost us millions each year
and automatically pay for everything that involves a royal visit by any member of the family.
Its not cheap, its not needed and over 80% of Canadians no longer want it.
I like history, but I suspect we could spend the money on better things.
We don't pay the Crown anything. The $3 million you are referring to likely is costs on a royal visit to Canada - security, staff at accommodation, etc. But, Canada does that for other world leaders as well. Most of the costs come from the governor general's office and the lieutenant governors.
I agree with Dogsoldier, we would pay the cost of anything that replaced the governor general. The salary really is a drop in the bucket, assuming the PM appoints someone capable of doing the job.
Replacing this system would require a constitutional amendment, and hence, consent of a majority of the provinces. That is unlikely to occur in this country.
Halo I am not getting in an argument with you, because you will post until
I give up or give in, think whatever you want. I don't agree with you.
I posted one small link from Macleans, a fairly well respected News magazine in Canada.
WHen I googled costs regarding monarchy, the list was endless of reports on how much it costs,
the 3 million I quoted is a drop in the bucket. There is more than a little proof its expensive.
As far as what you or I think it is not relevant, I beleive if 75- 80% of Canadians want gone
Our government you should look into it official and respect the wishes of Canadians.
I suspect most in UK would agree with proper process as well, considering Brexit vote.
I personally beleive biggest problem with Gornements today is exactly that, they do as they want
not what people want. Rarely does a govenment in Canada get over 50% of the vote,
so In my mind, major issues can be solved with plebiscite.
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So I haven't been following the Harry/Meghan saga because: don't care, but it does seem to me that she is the first woman in history who took a prince and turned him into a frog.
B/B
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So I haven't been following the Harry/Meghan saga because: don't care, but it does seem to me that she is the first woman in history who took a prince and turned him into a frog.
B/B
You didn’t watch the interview? Many people cried when they watched a princess paid $7 million tell the world she’s a victim and how bad life was being in the royal family. Does she have a gofund me?
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So I haven't been following the Harry/Meghan saga because: don't care, but it does seem to me that she is the first woman in history who took a prince and turned him into a frog.
B/B
You didn’t watch the interview? Many people cried when they watched a princess paid $7 million tell the world she’s a victim and how bad life was being in the royal family. Does she have a gofund me?
Although I am quite indifferent to royalty, It does seem that fact-checking makes her story fall apart more and more, which of course doesn't do her any good.
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Funny in Canada, its talked about every year
and more and more people, asking why are we paying
for something that in todays world gives us nothing back,
Some say history, big bill for history.
this years poll hit 84% of people wanting it to change.
Canada doesn't pay anything to the royal family. Constitutionally, the Queen is our head of state, however, in reality, that means little. She doesn't open parliament, she doesn't sign bills. The person who does sign bills into law, her representative (governor general), doesn't refuse to do so. So in reality, it is parliament that runs the country, not the Queen or her Canadian representative.
Actually thats not ture, we pay 3 million a year a year, that amount was released several years ago by Government.
Also your right about the govern general except, look at salary, benefits, life time pension after serveing along with
200,00k year expense account after out of office, they say the lastest disgraced govern general could cost us up to a million a year
for over 10 years. For a job that is nothing but Dog and pony show. We maintain several properties that cost us millions each year
and automatically pay for everything that involves a royal visit by any member of the family.
Its not cheap, its not needed and over 80% of Canadians no longer want it.
I like history, but I suspect we could spend the money on better things.
We don't pay the Crown anything. The $3 million you are referring to likely is costs on a royal visit to Canada - security, staff at accommodation, etc. But, Canada does that for other world leaders as well. Most of the costs come from the governor general's office and the lieutenant governors.
I agree with Dogsoldier, we would pay the cost of anything that replaced the governor general. The salary really is a drop in the bucket, assuming the PM appoints someone capable of doing the job.
Replacing this system would require a constitutional amendment, and hence, consent of a majority of the provinces. That is unlikely to occur in this country.
Halo I am not getting in an argument with you, because you will post until
I give up or give in, think whatever you want. I don't agree with you.
I posted one small link from Macleans, a fairly well respected News magazine in Canada.
WHen I googled costs regarding monarchy, the list was endless of reports on how much it costs,
the 3 million I quoted is a drop in the bucket. There is more than a little proof its expensive.
As far as what you or I think it is not relevant, I beleive if 75- 80% of Canadians want gone
Our government you should look into it official and respect the wishes of Canadians.
I suspect most in UK would agree with proper process as well, considering Brexit vote.
I personally beleive biggest problem with Gornements today is exactly that, they do as they want
not what people want. Rarely does a govenment in Canada get over 50% of the vote,
so In my mind, major issues can be solved with plebiscite.
The Macleans article is about the cost of the governor general and lieutenant governors of Canada. It is not about giving money to the British royal family.
Were we to replace the parliamentary system, it would be with something that still requires funding, probably of the same amount, or more.
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So I haven't been following the Harry/Meghan saga because: don't care, but it does seem to me that she is the first woman in history who took a prince and turned him into a frog.
B/B
You didn’t watch the interview? Many people cried when they watched a princess paid $7 million tell the world she’s a victim and how bad life was being in the royal family. Does she have a gofund me?
Although I am quite indifferent to royalty, It does seem that fact-checking makes her story fall apart more and more, which of course doesn't do her any good.
She's winning the twitter wars, especially in the African American community. And of course, twitter is a direct reflection of broader society. (/s)
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Mark, truth does not matter much. Just look at the posts of some posters here.
She is a woman and must therefore be believed. She has black blood in her which means she must be oppressed. And she has claimed victimhood which synergises the former two assets.
Whatever happens in reality, the 'narrative' is fixed. The black girl who became a princess, only to be driven nearly to death by a racist and vengeful family unable to accept her due to her colour and breeding.
It is all, probably, lies or, at best purposeful misinterpretation of speech and situations, is what counts and will become the acceptable reality.
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Andrew, I doubt she is telling the whole truth
and most likely twisting the story into her own favour.
This is something most people do.
But I highly doubt the Royal family is telling the whole truth also.
The truth likely is somewhere in the middle and in this case, that is not
good. The fact she does not fit the royal family mould likely caused problems
right form the start. Not proper family for the royals.
With the world as it is today, the royals made a huge mistake thinking
they could do what they always do, cover it up and make it go away.
Most of the UK beleives she is poison and most of the world beleives shes telling
the truth, you don't suppose the folks in the UK are a bit bias LOL.
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I rather doubt that the royal family has covered anything up.
Bear in mind they did not know what was in the interview before it was broadcast. To some degree, neither would Meghan and her hamster. They would know what they had talked about, might even have had a transcript but they would almost certainly not have known what the final edit was or have been given approval rights.
For example, from what I have seen of this 'racist' claim, it is the kind of thing that could've been said by many older people in what they might have seen as being humour. That does not mean that the person is 'racist' but it might mean their attitudes are not current with Karen culture and Twitterdom.
For example what has been claimed to have been said is the kind of thing that my Dad might've said. Insensitive perhaps, but I know that, in practical terms, he was not racist. Nor would him having said something like that mean that I, my sister, mother or cousins were also racist.
I am not a great one for meme culture, it usually tends to block thought and reduce the depth of communication to the lowest possible level, however, I did see one meme that did ring true. In essence, the point being made was this, in comparison with the Queen, the head of the royal family. Who is more likely to be on the side of right and truth here: a person who has a history of problems with family and co-workers, who is unable to maintain relationships those close to her; or the person who is on good terms with heads of state around the world, who has proven competent at handling the most serious people issues in the world over the past 70 years?
We do not know the truth and, of course, here, 'truth' is a flexible concept, no black or white. However, just as we might do when looking at other matters of the day, we can gain inferences from context, past behaviour and desired outcomes.
My perspective is that this woman was unsuited to the role she chose for herself by agreeing to marry into the British royal family. She is almost certainly a woman who has become unaccustomed to hearing the word 'no' and thus is very unsuited to a lifestyle that is very privileged in many ways also comes with a severe set of restrictions that will include limits on her perceived personal freedoms.
This woman, a moderately successful actress, probably thought she had hit the jackpot the night she blew off Piers Morgan to meet with Prince Harry. Harry is not faultless in such a scenario but in the end, there is probably almost nothing that the Queen or Harry's purported father could do about his choice.
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Much of what you said is likely true, but again from a UK perspective.
Harry could have divorced her, his father set that precedent in the past.
It could very well be true, she had no idea what she was truely in for
but then who could be? Even though we all know certain protocols etc.
I am not sure any outsider could truly understand a Roayls life until
involved. Unless they do it the old fashioned way and only let Royals,
marry royals from other families, then this is bound to happen.
Also younger folks are not going to shut up and do as told as it has been
for centuries, new world, they had better adjust.
As I said above, I am quite sure some of what was said is very true,
some is over the top by spoiled people. Sorted the rich complaing about the
super rich, all those poor folks LOL.
I will say it again, I suspect most in the UK will stand up for the Monarchy
and most others will take the side of Megan and Harry, no big surprise.
The history is cool but a huge waste of money IMO.
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The truth likely is somewhere in the middle and in this case, that is not
good.
I'm gonna satire a bit:
Meghan: I had *NO* help whatsoever getting up to speed with royal protocols and table manners.
Queen: Meghan had 15 personal assistants assigned to her, 1 of which is my most trusted personal right hand assistant.
Middle truth:
Meghan probably had around 7 personal assistants.
Now, considering the middle truth, errr, LOL.
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The truth likely is somewhere in the middle and in this case, that is not
good.
I'm gonna satire a bit:
Meghan: I had *NO* help whatsoever getting up to speed with royal protocols and table manners.
Queen: Meghan had 15 personal assistants assigned to her, 1 of which is my most trusted personal right hand assistant.
Middle truth:
Meghan probably had around 7 personal assistants.
Now, considering the middle truth, errr, LOL.
You can spin anything you want.
The royal family said they had no Idea Megan and Harry were not Happy, they
never told the queen lol. Really 2 years of public issues, 6 months notice they wanted
out, queen / Grandma knew nothing (:)
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As at least one of the royal family have pointed out, different people have different perceptions of the same events. That's all a point I made upthread.
One can believe more than one story to be true from the perspective of the various observers/participants.
For example, I have been self-isolating since my return home a few days ago. My mum, queen of the family and all she surveys, had been criticising for about how I was managing the self-isolation, bearing in mind that at the time in consideration, I had taken 3 Covid-19 tests in 6 days and all were negative.
So, my mother was moaning to me that I was not locked away in my bedroom when the cleaners were working. I told that I had been self-isolating according to the guidelines of the UK government and following the advice provided by the NHS with the results of the 3rd test.
She had asked me to stay out of the way of the staff around the house, which I did. She claimed she had imagined that statement to mean that I would remain in the bedroom at all times.
Now, she was objectively wrong in claiming that she had asked me to remain in my bedroom but here's the thing - Her TRUTH was that I had not been saying in the bedroom and that put me in the wrong.
For myself, I had been doing as she asked and kept myself out of the way of the masked staff and did not come within 2-3 meters of them at any time, thus following self-isolation guidelines. (yeah, it is quite a large house).
So, there we have it. Two different accounts of the same matter and both 'true' to the participants/observers. Now, in this case, I can say that having discussed the matter with the mother we came up to a grudging agreement that I HAD been following government guidance and that she had not asked me to lock myself in the bedroom, she had merely imagined that I would do so.
I can see similar situations in the reports of the interview and comments made by stakeholders since the interview. Two versions of a truth that might even be honestly held by all parties (although I have some doubt in respect of honesty in at least one of the stakeholders). Discussions over the events may end up reaching an agreement over an agreed truth - that may be as happened to me, grudgingly given, but an agreement will be reached.
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I agree there is at least two perceptions of the truth
in reality, likely many depending on who you ask.
As always one one is telling a story they would spin
it in their favour, this is fairly normal.
IMO, couple ways to look at this.
Royals have been doing things a certain way
for generations. But the 21st century as we all
see is a whole different animal. Maybe this helps
them to adjust to the world we know, maybe not.
In the big picture, the average person can't relate
because its the spoiled whining to the privilege
at a level most of us could not comprehend.
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The real losers in the Meghan and Harry drama are the people of Sussex, who, left leaderless without their Duke, are now defenseless against incursions from Hampshire and Kent.
Copied from History for the Witty 2.0
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The real losers in the Meghan and Harry drama are the people of Sussex, who, left leaderless without their Duke, are now defenseless against incursions from Hampshire and Kent.
:laugh:
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I can say on good authority that New Hampshire has no plans to invade Sussex the County that encompasses Metro Boston and neighboring hamlets.
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Sorry, I couldn't get just the image to appear.
Mod edit: code fixed
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I think the photo has been altered but still there is some truth to it and that is what makes it so funny.
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