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General Discussion => General Chat => Topic started by: NS1 on April 26, 2020, 07:08:36 AM
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So for fun and stupid arguments ;D
What would you do, if the power went off
and never came back on?
Do you have the skills to survive?
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No, I don't.
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Depends, for a week yes. For a month perhaps, though I am far from certain. For a year, no.
I am assuming that no one has power and delivery of essentials such as fuel and food ceases.
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Do you have the skills to survive?
No, unfortunately. But I presume it would be much easier somewhere in the countyside (where things haven't much changed during last century) as in Moscow... :biggrin:
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Do you have the skills to survive?
As long as I got toilet paper, I've got the supplies to survive! Some people can't live without their phone. No phone = End of the world.
An Iraqi friend of mine said when power went out for long periods of time, people clear cut the forests to generate heat in their homes. If power goes out for people forever, the environment and animals will get hit first and then we'll turn on each other. Most jobs require electricity. Without it most of us will be out of a job. No job, no money. No money, no honey or food. MAN is just 3 meals away from anarchy.
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Ok, I will help you out.
Power goes out and
NEVER COMES BACK ON.
thats the question, can you survive?
I will add a twist,
what would happen?
what would you do?
You realize it would take, maybe a week
then things would come unhinged.
Just staying alive from people would become your immediate Challenge.
So, really think about it, what would you do?
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You realize it would take, maybe a week
I did a week with no phone and no internet and media in North Korea. It freaks you out the first day or two, then it becomes quite serene.
As long as there was food and basic necessities, I'd be fine. Might be another kid at the end of it, though. ;D
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You realize it would take, maybe a week
I did a week with no phone and no internet and media in North Korea. It freaks you out the first day or two, then it becomes quite serene.
As long as there was food and basic necessities, I'd be fine. Might be another kid at the end of it, though. ;D
Where would you get food and necessities ?
No power, stores closed, no trucks and planes.
I am sure at some point, those who survived would grow food
or buy from locals, but short term, food would be gone in weeks.
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You realize it would take, maybe a week
I did a week with no phone and no internet and media in North Korea. It freaks you out the first day or two, then it becomes quite serene.
As long as there was food and basic necessities, I'd be fine. Might be another kid at the end of it, though. ;D
Where would you get food and necessities ?
No power, stores closed, no trucks and planes.
I am sure at some point, those who survived would grow food
or buy from locals, but short term, food would be gone in weeks.
Well for a week I'd have enough in the cupboards.
Once that was running out, I'd hope money still works.
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You realize it would take, maybe a week
I did a week with no phone and no internet and media in North Korea. It freaks you out the first day or two, then it becomes quite serene.
As long as there was food and basic necessities, I'd be fine. Might be another kid at the end of it, though. ;D
Where would you get food and necessities ?
No power, stores closed, no trucks and planes.
I am sure at some point, those who survived would grow food
or buy from locals, but short term, food would be gone in weeks.
Well for a week I'd have enough in the cupboards.
Once that was running out, I'd hope money still works.
Money would't be worth much in the beginning.
Ironically likely best thing to have is a
Gun and a place you can actually defend from those who would try
and take your weeks worth of food.
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We have a political wing of the democratic party who think this is a good idea. Just get rid of all gas, coal, and oil and the planet will be much better. The thinking was people survived before these things and we will do it again. USA congresswoman A.O.C. is very happy that the USA oil industry might go broke. She wants laws to prevent fracking, band all gasoline cars in five years and so much more to save the planet. She want the USA government to keep any body else from drilling on lands of bankrupt companies until we get USA oil production to zero. She want to shut down all coat immediately and phase natural out gas power plants and replace them with green energy. Tax all businesses until they are out of business and pay all people a wage for just being alive.
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Tax all businesses until they are out of business and pay all people a wage for just being alive.
This isn’t dissimilar to what the UK are trying at the moment. The government is paying 80% wages of a lot of people to stay at home.
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What do either of the comments above, have to do with no power?
( way off topic)
Folks with large stock piles of oil, could run generators for a bit.
But with out producing more, not for long.
I am surprised folks can't give a good answer.
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What ever happens.. no power, sun light, internet, food I will survive I already have a plan to head off to Finland by the sea should the worse happen.. bag packed in cupboard with supplies and important stuff.. :laugh:
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Do you have the skills to survive?
No, unfortunately. But I presume it would be much easier somewhere in the countyside (where things haven't much changed during last century) as in Moscow... :biggrin:
Nope, I can't butcher anything alive (yes, I am a hypocrite) and I don't know enough to live on plants-only.
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Folks with large stock piles of oil, could run generators for a bit.
But with out producing more, not for long.
Without power, refineries can't make gas. Gasoline pumps can't pump gas. Gas would be available for a few weeks after everybody siphons gas from tanks at the gas station. Food supply chains will be cut off.
I am surprised folks can't give a good answer.
Your question is actually complicated. Skills to survive the loss of electricity may depend on the ability to hide, steal and shoot a gun. If nobody bothered me, and I had plenty of time, I would removed the gas engine off my generator and connect the generator to a bicycle to produce power when I need it.
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This was said to me at a get together last year, to start a conversation.
Amazing how people view it, without much real thought, after a bit, really made me think.
So after a bit of thought, realizing, once people clued in,
the power wasn't coming back on, normal jobs and life
would cease to be the way we know it.
People would panic like never before, food being first.
Idiots would start lute and steal, a 60" big screen not worth much :)
Your abilities and tools at hand would be number one.
If you grew up hunting, fishing, taking care of garden, you have a small chance.
First and foremost, you have to be able to protect yourself, your family and what little you have.
Could you protect your current home. Mine would be easy to take if some one wanted.
To think people would not shoot you just for your food, you would guess wrong.
So I would pack up, all that is useful and ever bit of food, fuel and supplies I could get my hands on.
I would get out of city and fast, this would be the craziest place to be, as the less able will try and take what they want.
Go to a place, you can defend, have water, shelter and hopefully be able to hunt and fish at least short term.
The crowd would thin relatively quickly, few months. Before you go, have a quick plan to try and get
some long term supplies, one might laugh, seeds for planting, fish gear, more bullets etc.
One other thing, be careful who you decide to take with you or join up with.
They have to bring something to the table, just nice folks or your bringing someone who will want your food or get you killed.
Now, think about it again, what would you do, if the Power went out and never came back on?
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This was said to me at a get together last year, to start a conversation.
Amazing how people view it, without much real thought, after a bit, really made me think.
So after a bit of thought, realizing, once people clued in,
the power wasn't coming back on, normal jobs and life
would cease to be the way we know it.
People would panic like never before, food being first.
Idiots would start lute and steal, a 60" big screen not worth much :)
Your abilities and tools at hand would be number one.
If you grew up hunting, fishing, taking care of garden, you have a small chance.
First and foremost, you have to be able to protect yourself, your family and what little you have.
Could you protect your current home. Mine would be easy to take if some one wanted.
To think people would not shoot you just for your food, you would guess wrong.
So I would pack up, all that is useful and ever bit of food, fuel and supplies I could get my hands on.
I would get out of city and fast, this would be the craziest place to be, as the less able will try and take what they want.
Go to a place, you can defend, have water, shelter and hopefully be able to hunt and fish at least short term.
The crowd would thin relatively quickly, few months. Before you go, have a quick plan to try and get
some long term supplies, one might laugh, seeds for planting, fish gear, more bullets etc.
One other thing, be careful who you decide to take with you or join up with.
They have to bring something to the table, just nice folks or your bringing someone who will want your food or get you killed.
Now, think about it again, what would you do, if the Power went out and never came back on?
There are a few of us god fearing people that are capable of defending what we have. I would guess that 60% of my neighbors are military vets. Medical issues would be my first concern and is my weak point. My first line of defense is a Mossberg 500 and my neighbors.
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You realize it would take, maybe a week
I did a week with no phone and no internet and media in North Korea. It freaks you out the first day or two, then it becomes quite serene.
As long as there was food and basic necessities, I'd be fine. Might be another kid at the end of it, though. ;D
Where would you get food and necessities ?
No power, stores closed, no trucks and planes.
I am sure at some point, those who survived would grow food
or buy from locals, but short term, food would be gone in weeks.
Well for a week I'd have enough in the cupboards.
Once that was running out, I'd hope money still works.
Once that was running out, I'd hope money still works.. And exactly what would you do if money never worked again.. it all went tits up over night! No power, no money.. would you have a plan to survive?
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Well we couldn't post and update here anymore,
but I suspect better than 80% of these folks would be the first to go :nod:
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Well we couldn't post and update here anymore,
but I suspect better than 80% of these folks would be the first to go :nod:
It would be interesting what would happen if suddenly there was no power, no money, no sunlight hardly and a virus all chucked in at once and on top of that some people had already started to use mob rule, there was no police to help you out!
What would you do? Stay at home? Or head some where safe?
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It would be interesting what would happen if suddenly there was no power, no money, no sunlight hardly and a virus all chucked in at once and on top of that some people had already started to use mob rule, there was no police to help you out!
What would you do? Stay at home? Or head some where safe?
No very interesting. Most of us would soon be dead and the rest would follow in a couple of weeks. No food supply and it would get very cold in a couple of days. The mob and the virus would be the least of our worries.
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But in reality for example in the last 100 years we already had 3 big events now! WW1 and WW2 now a virus.. all in last 100 years..
Our cosy lives are not as cosy as they may seam in reality.. soon enough something bigger much bigger will happen to us fleas sat on a molten rock orbiting a nuclear reactor ..this is if some idiot doesn't press a wrong button in the next few years.. plenty of nutters about Adolf Hitler .. Hilary :censored: on.. sorry I mean clinton ..Pol pot.. :laugh:
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But in reality for example in the last 100 years we already had 3 big events now! WW1 and WW2 now a virus.. all in last 100 years..
Our cosy lives are not as cosy as they may seam in reality.. soon enough something bigger much bigger will happen to us fleas sat on a molten rock orbiting a nuclear reactor ..this is if some idiot doesn't press a wrong button in the next few years.. plenty of nutters about Adolf Hitler .. Hilary :censored: on.. sorry I mean clinton ..Pol pot.. :laugh:
this is far more true than most like to admit.
I could not survive an Nuclear war, but I could pretty much anything else.
not mush fun, but could do it.
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Well I spent the first three weeks after our house fire sleeping in a folding patio chair in the kitchen of the guest house... point being that I think we’re all more capable of adapting to adverse circumstances than we realize (until such a time as we’re actually faced with them).
Electricity isn’t too challenging to generate (in small quantities) via solar, wind or hydroelectric means for such conveniences as LED lighting, high-efficiency DC appliances and even audio / visual entertainment (assuming you have pre-recorded music and movies). Aboard the sailboat I have a sat-com data link, but for the purpose of this discussion I’m assuming all means of communication and data download are out.
A fuel oil (or LPG / NG) generator is a wise investment, assuming you have an adequate supply of fuel available. Although it sounds archaic, a steam-driven generator is perhaps the most versatile means of electric power generation due to its ability to run on virtually anything that’ll burn (from fuel oils and gases to wood, coal or even garbage).
As important as electricity is to society today, I’d be far more concerned about adequate supplies of food, water and medications. Collectively I think we really under-appreciate all three.
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Most people can put up with adverse conditions for a while. Almost none of us have the requisite skills to survive long term in a post civilisation world.
For example, how long, in reality, would the most (by their own standards) well-prepared prepper last? A few weeks, maybe a few months? They depend upon their stores of canned and dried foods. They have a bit of fuel stashed away and waaaaay more guns and ammunition than they need.
All of that is short term.
A 40 year old prepper would have, in today's world, around 40 more years of life ahead of them. What are they going to do when they've eaten all the food they stashed away? How many of them have farms, the hand tools, draught animals and the machinery they can pull to plough the fields, drill the seeds, mill the grain, etc. etc?
How may of the tiny few who have all the requisites of survival long term have the team in place to use the equipment or the knowledge of farming using that equipment?
Truth be told, all of us depend upon power, water, logistics to survive for anything longer than a few weeks or possibly months.
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Your abilities and tools at hand would be number one.
If you grew up hunting, fishing, taking care of garden, you have a small chance.
So I would pack up, all that is useful and ever bit of food, fuel and supplies I could get my hands on.
I would get out of city and fast, this would be the craziest place to be, as the less able will try and take what they want.
Go to a place, you can defend, have water, shelter and hopefully be able to hunt and fish at least short term.
:thumbsup:
What relates that particular topic to the main thema of this forum: it brings "providing for your family" to a new level... oh wait, maybe rather back to its original meaning? (:)
In a "post-catastrophe" world a hunter \ survivor would be much more successful than an purely genius IT guy or a banker :biggrin:
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Most people can put up with adverse conditions for a while. Almost none of us have the requisite skills to survive long term in a post civilisation world.
For example, how long, in reality, would the most (by their own standards) well-prepared prepper last? A few weeks, maybe a few months? They depend upon their stores of canned and dried foods. They have a bit of fuel stashed away and waaaaay more guns and ammunition than they need.
All of that is short term.
A 40 year old prepper would have, in today's world, around 40 more years of life ahead of them. What are they going to do when they've eaten all the food they stashed away? How many of them have farms, the hand tools, draught animals and the machinery they can pull to plough the fields, drill the seeds, mill the grain, etc. etc?
How may of the tiny few who have all the requisites of survival long term have the team in place to use the equipment or the knowledge of farming using that equipment?
Truth be told, all of us depend upon power, water, logistics to survive for anything longer than a few weeks or possibly months.
For the most part this is true. Here in the United States, and in Canada too, there are definitely people who live a primitive life 'off the grid' but for the most part they do so by choice. I don't imagine that it's even possible to do so in countries like England where forested space is minimal (England is about 1/7 the size of Alaska - a state where many hunt for their own food).
Beyond the logistics and practical lifestyle changes required for survival, another level of consideration is, who would want to live in a world vastly different from the one we've come to know in the last century?
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Many estimates were after 4 to 6 weeks (now) of Social Isolation Quarantine impacting incomes and active lifestyles we would see social protests... After 6 to 8 weeks social unrest... 8 to 10 weeks food riots...
As social fabric continues to fray your operational security and situational awareness becomes paramount to your physical safety and security... The following newsletter tips by a former CIA field operator are a quick read that I found to be a good refresher from my military days as a Nuke boats crewman and in Port armed top side security...we can all use this concise refresher:
A Surveillance Detection Route (SDR) is one of the most important skills a spy ever learns.
I’ve written about SDRs in the past, but here’s the 30 second refresher…
If you had an important meeting with an asset, you wouldn’t go straight from Point A to Point B.
Why?
Well, if you were followed by hostile surveillance, you could get your asset killed and you could end up in jail or worse.
So, you would run an SDR and you might go to the coffee shop first or to the grocery store or to the gas station…
And then you would finally make your way to your final destination, if you were sure you weren’t being followed.
But, how do make sure you aren’t followed?
There are 3 simple tests spies use.
First, is the Distance Test.
Let’s say you’re running your SDR and one of your planned stops is at the local gas station to pick up a drink.
As you’re grabbing a drink, you spot a shady looking fellow who just doesn’t blend in.
You commit his appearance to memory and make a note that he might be hostile surveillance.
If you go to a hot dog stand right next to the gas station and see the same guy at the hot dog stand…
That’s not a good enough indicator you’re being followed because the gas station and the hot dog stand are right next to each other.
But, if you drive 20 miles from that gas station to a coffee shop and you see the same guy at the coffee shop…
Then there’s obviously a solid chance you’re being followed because there’s good distance from the gas station to the coffee shop (20 miles).
Test #2 is the Time Test.
Let’s say you’re meeting a very high-value asset so you’re running an 8-hour SDR.
(This means you’re going around the area for 8 hours to see if you can pick up surveillance before going to your final destination.)
So, at 9am you decide to get a haircut and you see a person come in to also get their haircut.
This person raises some red flags for you, so you make a mental note of it.
Well, at 2pm, you swing by the barber shop again, to ask the barber a question about what beard oil he recommends. (Remember, this is all pre-planned.)
As you exit the barber shop, you see the same fellow who was there at 9am this morning.
Coincidence? Spies don’t believe in coincidences.
Again, major red flags since a lot of time has passed from 9am when you saw the guy at the barber shop and 2pm when he is there again.
Test #3 is the Direction Test.
This is an easy one to do.
Here’s a super-simple example.
You’re driving down the road and you think a car is following you.
So, you change direction and flip a U-turn.
If the car behind you suddenly makes a U-turn too, you know you’re being followed.
Now, I know you’re not James Bond in a foreign country…
But, criminals follow people too.
By using these 3 tests, you can tell if anyone might be following you home to try and do a home invasion or something else sinister.
P.S. This 3 Stage Defense Protocol shows you how to survive if hostile surveillance attacks you.
And in the months ahead you are out and about trying to find bacon for under $20 a pound or trying to satisfy your meat cravings and you see large groups of antifa types or worse your neighbors even yelling with signs about food and suddenly see lads running with old liquor glass bottles and wet rags dangling from the tops... Yes Molotov Cocktails... Newsflash you are in the middle of Food Riots and the above 3 techniques will help you GTFO and get home safely with your life intact rather than being assaulted for your grocery bags content.
In regard to OP much more likely for power to be on and off for random periods as in many 3rd world countries that find a chest freezer and emerg generator to be as valuable as their survival firearms... Living in a constitutional concealed carry state with both hunting and fishing traditions like Alaska, Montana, Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire in third level cities on the outskirts of major metros provides both security and ability to trade.
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In a post civilisation world, the most useful asset that most of us might have would be the ability to make a non-violent choice to not continue to live.
A little bit 'On The Beach' for some, but I am pretty damned sure that for most people, given a choice between a lingering starvation or violent death at the hands of people willing to kill for whatever one might possess and the ability to make an easy end that a large number would go for the easy end. The suicide pill.
I can certainly imagine the latter option in a situation where it was clear that the world we once had was gone forever. That would become more likely as one got older, less healthy, less able (or willing) to live in the new world that one had not chosen.
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In a post civilisation world, the most useful asset that most of us might have would be the ability to make a non-violent choice to not continue to live.
A little bit 'On The Beach' for some, but I am pretty damned sure that for most people, given a choice between a lingering starvation or violent death at the hands of people willing to kill for whatever one might possess and the ability to make an easy end that a large number would go for the easy end. The suicide pill.
Not for the first time, Neville Shute's great novel, 'On the Beach' gets a mention ..
Time to re read it, again, as I last read it when the cold war stand-off still existed.
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In a post civilisation world, the most useful asset that most of us might have would be the ability to make a non-violent choice to not continue to live.
A little bit 'On The Beach' for some, but I am pretty damned sure that for most people, given a choice between a lingering starvation or violent death at the hands of people willing to kill for whatever one might possess and the ability to make an easy end that a large number would go for the easy end. The suicide pill.
Not for the first time, Neville Shute's great novel, 'On the Beach' gets a mention ..
Time to re read it, again, as I last read it when the cold war stand-off still existed.
Within a few days, the last pockets of humanity are dead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(1959_film)
Are you referring to "On the Beach"? :GRAVE:
Thank you. :bow:
I had a week or so ago in my hands the novel. Sort of tired of reading depressing books. The novel was made into a memorable film.
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Not sure where cufflinks was going, not much to do with this thread.
People are starting to think about it and it can be an interesting conversation.
Andrew's option is one, but not something I am wired to do, so regardless would like go
out fighting and maybe a far worse death if so.
Yes old school skills are required short term, but in time new world skills would be needed to.
maybe not IT or some things, but bright people, with innovated ideas would be more than useful.
I believe figuring out how to survive the first few months would be key, then at least one could sort out longer plans later.
I suspect the nuts would take care of real weak and the other nuts :)
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SO, when this was asked of me, like many I gave some quick response's
some useful, some likely not so much.
But after some thought, I said ok with time, ( meaning now) to think about it.
I came up with a decent plan fairly quickly.
First I have some useful tools and items on hand. next I know I can't defend this place, to far from water,
too close to civilization. So what would I do where would I go. Heres a fast plan.
I would put together everything I have in truck / trailer thats useful. including, food, clothing, blankets.
the cool sneakers don't matter much now, only practical items.
Next where could I get more supplies, without going to war. Well I know a few places, very close,
sounds mean, go quickly and take what you need, I also would go to local feed store, get seeds etc, for future.
People who I want to take. Sounds mean, but only those you trust 100% and those who could be useful.
Everyone else eats food or gets you killed.
Then I though of places, friend owns cottage, (45 minutes away ) fully winterized on lake, with exceptionally difficult access,
lots of fresh water, hunting, average planting area, but for beginning easy to protect, lots of trees for for fire, heat.
and Ironically state of art solar system, so for short time everything I need and exceptionally easy to defend.
by land only a 20 foot swath you can see from several hundred feet, water, you see them coming a mile off.
I can hunt and fish, not be perfect, but I will not starve to death. Let the world go in and out of chaos.
Then folks you would see are looking to survive and rebuild slowly. In time you will get things you need.
Move to more realistic place to do all you need.
Do you have any of these options? can you offer a future skill, someone would take you with and protect for future
gain? if so, maybe, if not well. Maybe topic upthread is your option.
Edit, add old transmitter radio, if lucky ham system, sooner or later, you will hear stuff.
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I was thinking about this.
People would panic like never before, food being first.
Idiots would start lute and steal, a 60" big screen not worth much :)
As we have seen here in the UK, a few people get flu-like symptoms and they are running out of stores screaming clutching toilet roll like their life depended on it.
Anyone married to a Russian speaking woman took it easy. They are obsessed with clean bums. No toilet roll? No panic, the shower is over there. :whist11:
Your abilities and tools at hand would be number one.
If you grew up hunting, fishing, taking care of garden, you have a small chance.
A few weeks ago when everyone here was panicking and emptying shelves, my wife refused to participate. I'm a practical bloke, she has a dacha, we'll get by was her thinking. We had Grechka in the cupboard, and as any Russian knows, if you have Grechka, all is well with the world. :chuckle:
First and foremost, you have to be able to protect yourself, your family and what little you have.
Could you protect your current home. Mine would be easy to take if some one wanted.
To think people would not shoot you just for your food, you would guess wrong.
This is a thing here. Where we live we have tall gates, trees and railings to the front. And no access to the rear. So we are reasonably secluded. But you could maybe slide in via a neighbouring property. Or climb over. Few people have guns here. I'd support a guns on the property for self protection rule here.
Go to a place, you can defend, have water, shelter and hopefully be able to hunt and fish at least short term.
Now, think about it again, what would you do, if the Power went out and never came back on?
At this point it is essentially armageddon and we become cavemen again.
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Manny I agree with all this, except for two things.
If big house, you can only watch so many places at once,
so hard to protect once they do get on property.
Two, if you have to live off land and water, even if only for few months,
most residential properties are not ideal.
Why I though of well equipped cottage 45 minutes from city,
with lake, woulds and difficult access.
We can all live with out toilet paper or maybe few fav items from grocery store.
but inside of 1-2 weeks, those stores will be empty with no realistic timeline of being open again.
so short term, you have to survive and let the idiots kill each other off, so civilization can start to rebuild.
with some nots, but most trying to rebuild.
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Why I thought of a well equipped cottage 45 minutes from city,
with lake, woods and difficult access.
I agree the place you described would be ideal. But we dont all have access to such a place.
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Why I thought of a well equipped cottage 45 minutes from city,
with lake, woods and difficult access.
I agree the place you described would be ideal. But we dont all have access to such a place.
This is where countries like Canada and Russia take the prize.
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We won't be going back to caveman times, I would say more like communist times. Democracy would be finished. They would probably declare martial law and send the army in to kill any looters and thieves right away before it gets too out of hand. They would seize all food and agriculture production to assure the public they wouldn't starve. Farmers would be told they can keep on going as they were but you are working for the country now and fuel and any needs to raise livestock and grow grain will be provided by the govt, including helpers. In fact all people would be assigned work, no more sitting on your asses and collecting welfare checks.
Oil production won't stop, you don't need electricity to extract or refine oil, just diesel generators. But they would control it, trains and transport trucks will be under govt control, and no more privately owned cars. Public transportation would be your only option. Natural resources will become the new gold, the globe will look a lot different. The US will invade us and Mexico for any we have, and we will give up without a fight because we are socialists pussies who can't fight our way out if a wet paper bag. Russia will take over most of eastern Europe again, Germany will take western Europe and China will take Aisa. Any countries who put up a fight will be decimated, Iran would be wiped out because they're nuts and who knows wtf they would do with their nukes when they get desperate. North Korea too.
The barter system will take over money. Anyone who has a house with a yard in the cities would have vegetable gardens and chickens for meat and eggs. Anyone who leaves the city to go live out in the country probably won't be stopped... the less people to babysit the better. Population control could be enforced as well
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The novel was made into a memorable film.
Must check it out.
Fell asleep to the audible version and for those checking Nevil Shute out, I spelt his name correctly, this time.
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It would only take one big rock to hit the planet and your all in cave man times again cos when it hits all sorts of other things will follow virus, plague and worst!
Try asking the dinosaurs how life was , there will be no Communism socialism all there will be is Molten glass for rain for 10,000 square miles, no sunlight for 5 years, multiple earthquakes total chaos you can forget about any type of society .. the world has just a small virus at the moment and most cannot cope..
BUT life will still go on.. but for sure only for the fittest and who are willing to kill to survive cos everyone will be killing each other for a few years for sure ..
And all of this can happen at a flicker of an eyelid!! Big rocks hit the planet all the time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_Crater
Non stop rocks hitting the place.. try doing some research on it.. Nasa and many other countries are already working together on a plan of action for a big one..
No amount of money will help you when it happens.. you will just need a shot gun :laugh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_on_Earth. It is coming any day soon!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_in_North_America. The US could disappear overnight.. totally..
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Just 100 years ago... if it hit a few hours earlier it could be Good bye Paris ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event
What about the so called Dark ages? Just a few hundred years back?
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/02/040204000254.htm
Everyone is on borrowed time..
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I agree the place you described would be ideal. But we dont all have access to such a place.
YES, you do.. it's called the Peak District
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I agree the place you described would be ideal. But we dont all have access to such a place.
YES, you do.. it's called the Peak District
Not the location, the shack. Ref post #33 above. Yes, the Pennines are on the doorstep, but the house on the lake NS described is what I was referencing.
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It would only take one big rock to hit the planet and your all in cave man times again cos when it hits all sorts of other things will follow virus, plague and worst!
Try asking the dinosaurs how life was , there will be no Communism socialism all there will be is Molten glass for rain for 10,000 square miles, no sunlight for 5 years, multiple earthquakes total chaos you can forget about any type of society .. the world has just a small virus at the moment and most cannot cope..
BUT life will still go on.. but for sure only for the fittest and who are willing to kill to survive cos everyone will be killing each other for a few years for sure ..
And all of this can happen at a flicker of an eyelid!! Big rocks hit the planet all the time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_Crater
Non stop rocks hitting the place.. try doing some research on it.. Nasa and many other countries are already working together on a plan of action for a big one..
No amount of money will help you when it happens.. you will just need a shot gun :laugh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_on_Earth. It is coming any day soon!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_in_North_America. The US could disappear overnight.. totally..
I don't know about you man... so often you seem a little too eager to welcome the end times. :laugh:
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I agree the place you described would be ideal. But we dont all have access to such a place.
YES, you do.. it's called the Peak District
I have fond memories of both the Pennine and Dales Ways. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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It would only take one big rock to hit the planet and your all in cave man times again cos when it hits all sorts of other things will follow virus, plague and worst!
Try asking the dinosaurs how life was , there will be no Communism socialism all there will be is Molten glass for rain for 10,000 square miles, no sunlight for 5 years, multiple earthquakes total chaos you can forget about any type of society .. the world has just a small virus at the moment and most cannot cope..
BUT life will still go on.. but for sure only for the fittest and who are willing to kill to survive cos everyone will be killing each other for a few years for sure ..
And all of this can happen at a flicker of an eyelid!! Big rocks hit the planet all the time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_Crater
Non stop rocks hitting the place.. try doing some research on it.. Nasa and many other countries are already working together on a plan of action for a big one..
No amount of money will help you when it happens.. you will just need a shot gun :laugh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_on_Earth. It is coming any day soon!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_in_North_America. The US could disappear overnight.. totally..
I don't know about you man... so often you seem a little too eager to welcome the end times. :laugh:
No Im just pointing out that humans are just tenants on this planet and nothing more!! It is like renting a house then going putting a conservatory up and making an extension.. Its not your house!
Same with he planet.. soon enough the new tenants will take over just like they have done for millions of years .. as for saving the planet with CO2 emissions :laugh: They may try that but at a flicker of an eyelid its back to the same level again.. Mother Nature is very powerful ask pliney the elder , he was the last governor of Pompeii ..
Here he is in his last moments not sure what the dirty bugger was uptown when the volcano went bang..
(https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/95928329_2764125200353033_5291991705489244160_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_oc=AQmhfjSr-OZYBlYzSv8SDry-jE2r1rPv7KWSow--GZ9TGO33vfA2vWAfhzXPWoj3nLc&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=45efbdbd942e56974e57953ce88a2a33&oe=5ED2D114)
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Here he is in his last moments not sure what the dirty bugger was upto when the volcano went bang..
(https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/95928329_2764125200353033_5291991705489244160_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_oc=AQmhfjSr-OZYBlYzSv8SDry-jE2r1rPv7KWSow--GZ9TGO33vfA2vWAfhzXPWoj3nLc&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=45efbdbd942e56974e57953ce88a2a33&oe=5ED2D114)
Moby on Skype isnt it?
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Here he is in his last moments not sure what the dirty bugger was upto when the volcano went bang..
(https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/95928329_2764125200353033_5291991705489244160_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_oc=AQmhfjSr-OZYBlYzSv8SDry-jE2r1rPv7KWSow--GZ9TGO33vfA2vWAfhzXPWoj3nLc&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=45efbdbd942e56974e57953ce88a2a33&oe=5ED2D114)
Moby on Skype isnt it?
La petite mort.
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I was thinking about this.
I have a prepper friend, only he doesn't like being called a "prepper"...sort of how like a "Trekker" is someone who likes Star Trek a bit too much but a "Trekkie" is someone who INSISTS that you call him a "Trekker". He has the habit of bringing a few boxes of ammo with him any time he comes by and kept on me about stocking up, so by the time the quarantine came, I had enough ammo (several thousand rounds) of the various types that I need to last a good long time.
Because really, the only times you don't need more ammo is if you're swimming or on fire. :chuckle:
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Having collected my bonus in March I picked up about two years worth of emergency rations, together with some meal substitutes (like cubes of butterscotch flavored stuff) I can easily extend that to three years. It just happened - suddenly, I was a prepper, too. :chuckle:
The supply chain actually recovered relatively quickly, other than TP and paper towels (and Lysol wipes which I don't use anyway). I have long made it a habit of picking up consumables - esp things that are bulky and inconvenient to lug when you have other groceries - if I happen to be near a market, such as if I am getting my mail, going to the bank, etc. So I had plenty of paper towels and TP on hand, as well as canned food - there's a type of soup I get that sells out quickly, so I pick up a bunch when it comes in. I also got plenty of tuna pouches - good "on the go" energy - and when I make a sammich out of the "five ounce" pouch, there's always a bit left on the end for the cats to share.
I have a 360 gallon propane tank to run the (built in) generator and heat the pool, so all good there - I seldom heat the pool and doubt I would in the post-apocalypse either. My particular favorite hand soap was sold out at the market, but Staples was spot on, true to their advertisements: "Yeah, we've got that." A visit to a Stop & Stop in a "diverse" neighborhood yielded all of my favorites - most of the residents were "of color" so preferred different things. Done/dusted. And Walmart happily delivered (for free) my particular favorite Macadamia nuts at their "Everyday Low Prices", plus an additional 5% off because I picked up their co-branded visa with Capital One.
I could probably use a bit more Solar Salt - I have about 3 month supply, laid in. And there's plenty of water - I have my own well that the generator runs, and I keep extra bottled water and green tea "just because". I do need more wood - I just burned the last yesterday - but I have a neighbor with 7 cords who would no doubt be happy to trade for water or extra food. So no worries.
So when the Big Night comes because of an asteroid, or the Mohabis among us get their way, and we're flooded with migrant trash because: Feelings, and the Sun Sets on Civilization? B/B will be ready.
B/B