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Dating & Marriage With Women From Russia, Ukraine, Belarus & FSU => Agencies & Dating Sites => Topic started by: ashbyclarke on June 02, 2014, 04:12:25 PM
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Anyone noticed the links to EM's didn't work earlier.... now I try and they say I've seen my quota of 10... don't think I've ever clicked on that link 10 times!!! I'm not a member either...
Seems EM's is closing shop on tourists...... Sign of the times? Trade must be bad.
Still if I were single there looks like some benefit of joining, any members who do join perhaps can share some of the delights I'm no longer privileged of viewing tiphat
Liliya 32 :-X
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So they were touting for a couple weeks, their impending site redesign, today they did it.
So far I find the site slower to navigate, with many bugs, such as Who Viewed feature not working, and thumbnails not showing up (so you get a placeholder icon; but if you click on the icon to see the profile, there actually are photos there).
They didn't even properly migrate over the user accounts, so, I show up as a "Free" instead of "Gold" member.
Maybe they will have it all fixed pronto, or not. Post your experiences with the new site.
The new claimed features are 1) instant text chat 2) some form of video chat.
EDIT: it also logs you out after perhaps 1 hour of inactivity, forcing you to login again. And in such a way, that your browser won't offer to remember your username and password for you. Cumbersome.
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So they were touting for a couple weeks, their impending site redesign, today they did it.
So far I find the site slower to navigate, with many bugs, such as Who Viewed feature not working, and thumbnails not showing up (so you get a placeholder icon; but if you click on the icon to see the profile, there actually are photos there).
They didn't even properly migrate over the user accounts, so, I show up as a "Free" instead of "Gold" member.
Maybe they will have it all fixed pronto, or not. Post your experiences with the new site.
The new claimed features are 1) instant text chat 2) some form of video chat.
EDIT: it also logs you out after perhaps 1 hour of inactivity, forcing you to login again. And in such a way, that your browser won't offer to remember your username and password for you. Cumbersome.
Just commented on that Slumba, they won't let me look at any of the promo pics to the right of the page, what's that all about, you don't buy unless you can see....
Sounds like they're sick of the tourists, like me, just taking a peak and not buying.
I only look to comment on :thumbsup:
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This is part of what I had from them on the subject:
The new software is based on Windows server and SQL database (as compared to the current Linux-based server and MySQL database). This allows us to introduce many new services such as instant messaging with built-in online translator and video chat, as part of our usual membership packages, as well as offer our users higher speed and more reliable service in general. The whole website is re-designed in accordance with current trends and requirements users have today to an online dating site. More membership packages will be introduced, as well as downloadable products, both in lower and higher price ranges. The spectrum of non-membership services and products will become wider as well.
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Anyone noticed the links to EM's didn't work earlier.... now I try and they say I've seen my quota of 10... don't think I've ever clicked on that link 10 times!!! I'm not a member either...
Seems EM's is closing shop on tourists...... Sign of the times? Trade must be bad.
Still if I were single there looks like some benefit of joining, any members who do join perhaps can share some of the delights I'm no longer privileged of viewing tip hat
Liliya 32 :-X
Looks like they were in the process of updating the site and it was down for a brief period. Now a new look.
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Anyone noticed the links to EM's didn't work earlier.... now I try and they say I've seen my quota of 10... don't think I've ever clicked on that link 10 times!!! I'm not a member either...
Seems EM's is closing shop on tourists...... Sign of the times? Trade must be bad.
Still if I were single there looks like some benefit of joining, any members who do join perhaps can share some of the delights I'm no longer privileged of viewing tip hat
Liliya 32 :-X
Looks like they were in the process of updating the site and it was down for a brief period. Now a new look.
New look and limited info unless you sign up (for free). Maybe business is good and this is a way of increasing paid membership. Probably too many using the site for free with no intention of ever signing up for a paid membership.
http://www.elenasmodels.com/Home/Index
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Anyone noticed the links to EM's didn't work earlier.... now I try and they say I've seen my quota of 10... don't think I've ever clicked on that link 10 times!!! I'm not a member either...
Seems EM's is closing shop on tourists...... Sign of the times? Trade must be bad.
Still if I were single there looks like some benefit of joining, any members who do join perhaps can share some of the delights I'm no longer privileged of viewing tip hat
Liliya 32 :-X
Looks like they were in the process of updating the site and it was down for a brief period. Now a new look.
New look and limited info unless you sign up (for free). Maybe business is good and this is a way of increasing paid membership. Probably too many using the site for free with no intention of ever signing up for a paid membership.
http://www.elenasmodels.com/Home/Index
Guess I was lucky with my timing on this site...I paid $99.
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This is part of what I had from them on the subject:
The new software is based on Windows server and SQL database (as compared to the current Linux-based server and MySQL database). This allows us to introduce many new services such as instant messaging with built-in online translator and video chat, as part of our usual membership packages, as well as offer our users higher speed and more reliable service in general. The whole website is re-designed in accordance with current trends and requirements users have today to an online dating site. More membership packages will be introduced, as well as downloadable products, both in lower and higher price ranges. The spectrum of non-membership services and products will become wider as well.
Yeah, they bought into the marketing BS it seems. Instant messaging (text chat) works just fine on Linux, there are many ways to do it. Video chat - dunno but usually that is handled by a different server, it is not tied into the guts of the system.
I predict failure for EM, they will either have to drastically revamp what they currently have or switch to something else in 6 months or less.
The bleed of users will kill their profitability.
As it stands, every hour or two you have to re-login - this will kill their "stickiness". Only PayPal and my banking site have this kind of crap enabled.
Their site is noticeably slower, like, 10x page load time (till all the widgets are loaded etc.). Kills browsing experience, as clunky as the old site was it was fast.
And, it has been 8 hours since my support contact about my membership, and I am still listed as "Free" member. So, imagine I was communicating back and forth a lot with a girl, this would kill a day's worth or more of communication, for no good reason. I mean, if you can't even import the old membership database properly ...
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I don't know why they'd switch over to Microsoft Server and SQL Server. Linux and MySql are cheaper and EM doesn't have nearly enough clients to make using SQL Server necessary. Redesign the site and start offering chat and video to increase the profitability is good business sense but when you start using Microsoft crap that's just ruining your system.
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Anyone noticed the links to EM's didn't work earlier.... now I try and they say I've seen my quota of 10... don't think I've ever clicked on that link 10 times!!! I'm not a member either...
Seems EM's is closing shop on tourists...... Sign of the times? Trade must be bad.
Still if I were single there looks like some benefit of joining, any members who do join perhaps can share some of the delights I'm no longer privileged of viewing tiphat
Liliya 32 :-X
Do you have CCleaner? I'll bet (I could be wrong) if you cleaned your cookies you
would get another 10 views
https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner
Udachi!
Bill
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but when you start using Microsoft crap that's just ruining your system.
+1
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Either they changed profile ID #s or 7 more off my watch-list disappeared :(
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Anyone noticed the links to EM's didn't work earlier.... now I try and they say I've seen my quota of 10... don't think I've ever clicked on that link 10 times!!! I'm not a member either...
Seems EM's is closing shop on tourists...... Sign of the times? Trade must be bad.
Still if I were single there looks like some benefit of joining, any members who do join perhaps can share some of the delights I'm no longer privileged of viewing tiphat
Liliya 32 :-X
Do you have CCleaner? I'll bet (I could be wrong) if you cleaned your cookies you
would get another 10 views
https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner
Udachi!
Bill
I've more cookies than I could eat in a lifetime!
tiphat
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Anyone noticed the links to EM's didn't work earlier.... now I try and they say I've seen my quota of 10... don't think I've ever clicked on that link 10 times!!! I'm not a member either...
Seems EM's is closing shop on tourists...... Sign of the times? Trade must be bad.
Still if I were single there looks like some benefit of joining, any members who do join perhaps can share some of the delights I'm no longer privileged of viewing tiphat
Liliya 32 :-X
Do you have CCleaner? I'll bet (I could be wrong) if you cleaned your cookies you
would get another 10 views
https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner
Udachi!
Bill
Changing browser will also work. Just flick over to Yandex or Firefox or whatever your backup ones are (Please, not IE, ever).
But to be fair, after such a big site redesign, it will take them a week or two to fix the niggly issues.
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Anyone noticed the links to EM's didn't work earlier.... now I try and they say I've seen my quota of 10... don't think I've ever clicked on that link 10 times!!! I'm not a member either...
Seems EM's is closing shop on tourists...... Sign of the times? Trade must be bad.
Still if I were single there looks like some benefit of joining, any members who do join perhaps can share some of the delights I'm no longer privileged of viewing tiphat
Liliya 32 :-X
Do you have CCleaner? I'll bet (I could be wrong) if you cleaned your cookies you
would get another 10 views
https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner
Udachi!
Bill
Changing browser will also work. Just flick over to Yandex or Firefox or whatever your backup ones are (Please, not IE, ever).
But to be fair, after such a big site redesign, it will take them a week or two to fix the niggly issues.
Not sure about Windows, but on my Mac it has the same cookies for firefox and safari, but that doesn't extend to banking and other financial data. At least that's what appears on my computer, could be wrong as I'm not that proficient with software.
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But to be fair, after such a big site redesign, it will take them a week or two to fix the niggly issues.
Yes, it's always frustrating at first. Right now the software I use for bidding
window projects works great except that I can't change the quantity of anything
>:( >:( >:( >:( :censored: $%#&**# !! The super moron Techie
told me that this is a known problem and temporarily I just need to restart
my computer each time >:( that guy is really lucky that he is in another state.
For whatever reason my assistant's computer has the ability to change quantities
(we have different authorizations in what we can do on the server) and I must
email her every quantity change that I want to make or if I am working after hours
then I make a list of stuff for her to do the next day when she comes in. I make a
quantity change approximately 40 times per day.
If I had to reboot my computer that many times I would give my computer flying
lessons.
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Yes I agree, the new design is both painful and frustrating!
I just finished writing an e-mail to the owners letting them know how I feel about it.
I actually suggested they just bite the bullet and go back to their previous software.
One time last year I pointed out a member on their site who I knew was married. They looked into it and pulled their profile off.
So now I see they have:
About Me/Marital Status: Married/Separated
WTF?
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But to be fair, after such a big site redesign, it will take them a week or two to fix the niggly issues.
Yes, it's always frustrating at first. Right now the software I use for bidding
window projects works great except that I can't change the quantity of anything
>:( >:( >:( >:( :censored: $%#&**# !! The super moron Techie
told me that this is a known problem and temporarily I just need to restart
my computer each time >:( that guy is really lucky that he is in another state.
For whatever reason my assistant's computer has the ability to change quantities
(we have different authorizations in what we can do on the server) and I must
email her every quantity change that I want to make or if I am working after hours
then I make a list of stuff for her to do the next day when she comes in. I make a
quantity change approximately 40 times per day.
If I had to reboot my computer that many times I would give my computer flying
lessons.
I have an ecommerce site and I know the hours Herrie put into that to make it work properly (some stuff I had to get others who knew more about a given specific too). He also had to fix stuff written by others that wasn't right. And even now, it still has a few little niggles that the bloke who wrote the actual platform cant fix. I also know from stuff like forum upgrades we have done that seemingly simple stuff can have a wheel fall off that takes time to fix.
Elena's have completely changed DB, platform and everything from what I read. From what I read, they have gone with something every tech bloke I have ever known has advised against. So I do sympathise with them in what must be a very trying time while they iron out the niggles.
I actually suggested they just bite the bullet and go back to their previous software.
I thought similar yesterday. But people always resist change. I had a play with a VB site in recent months, and I couldn't come to grips with it. Nor could Chris. But others sing VBulletin praises to the roof.
Personally, I would give them a spell to watch it in action and tweak it.
What I would have done is roll out a side version and have a few folks (like members here for example) test it out and give feedback before going live.
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What I would have done is roll out a side version and have a few folks (like members here for example) test it out and give feedback before going live.
Exactly!
It isn't so much the links not working or the slowness etc. that bothers me.
It's the entire look and feel of the site.
It looked professional before, now it simply looks cheap.
If they did all this just so members could chat with each other it was a big mistake.
When I wrote them with my suggestions I mentioned the good ol' chestnut "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." :)
My bank made a similar move half a year ago when they revamped the main account screen you see after you log in.
It was a total screw up and they haven't done anything about it really since then.
But you know, you hire these programmers and they feel they need to keep making changes to justify their wages. :(
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They have set up the site now so that the first thing you see when you log in are women who recently viewed your profile.
But... they aren't being exactly genuine with their software.
How do I know?
Well for starters a bunch of women (Russia and Ukraine) are showing as ONLINE at 3-4 a.m. their time. What are the chances of that? When do these women sleep?
I might give them the benefit of the doubt if it happened just one time, but...
one of these women is online at 3, 4, 6 a.m. etc. and just happens to have written me a letter that Elena's is hoping I will open.
What are the chances of that? :)
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The worst thing about the site is they decided to do away with
the advanced search feature. You can search by age only.
If you wanted to search by English ability, city, height, weight
education, country or city you are pretty much unable to do so.
Let's say you go to Minsk to meet a girl WOVO and it doesn't
work out 5 minutes into your trip you can't search for Minsk girls.
Let's say there was a girl who you were interested in but you
didn't remember X, Y and Z. You can't simply put in the variables
that you know to find her quickly. You must sort through many
many others.
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It is even worse, now. I can't even look at new emails that have been sent to me. The count of emails in the upper right corner changes depending on which page I am on, also.
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Has EM changed owners? Site redesign, new features added, other features deleted sound like problems that happen when new owners take over and want to radically change the website.
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Has EM changed owners? Site redesign, new features added, other features deleted sound like problems that happen when new owners take over and want to radically change the website.
They've had the same design for nearly a decade (maybe longer) and surely business has
slowed a bit so it was time to do an upgrade and make an improved more interactive site
like most of their competition. They missed it here, somebody probably knew the Microsoft
product and convinced them to use it. They need to start over, develop a site offline, tweak
it, play with it, let a few people try it then bring it online.
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Has EM changed owners? Site redesign, new features added, other features deleted sound like problems that happen when new owners take over and want to radically change the website.
They need to start over, develop a site offline, tweak
it, play with it, let a few people try it then bring it online.
That's pretty much the way it's supposed to be done. I'm surprised they didn't run a beta version in conjunction with their old version and ask for comments. Judging from the way the new version works I doubt there'd be too many positive comments. In turn that'd give them some clues where improvements were needed for the next version. Then repeat the process until the new version works properly.
Perhaps EM used the same people that designed and implemented the Obamacare website? :laugh:
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That's pretty much the way it's supposed to be done. I'm surprised they didn't run a beta version in conjunction with their old version and ask for comments. Judging from the way the new version works I doubt there'd be too many positive comments. In turn that'd give them some clues where improvements were needed for the next version. Then repeat the process until the new version works properly.
Perhaps EM used the same people that designed and implemented the Obamacare website? :laugh:
I agree.
I just checked on the 'development' of the site now and they have taken it down for at least 24 hours to work on it. :)
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I just checked on the 'development' of the site now and they have taken it down for at least 24 hours to work on it. :)
That will explain why the ads to the right have gone off.
After seeing the new site, I did actually shoot them a few suggestions based on my thoughts and member comments. Not sure if they will take any notice, but as they get a noticeable lump of traffic from here, one would hope they might.
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I'm not actively looking right now but out of curiosity I wanted to have a look the new site, was only able to log in once and haven't been able to log in for days now. It is a total flop, the previous site was dated but it was functional and worked reasonably well.
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That will explain why the ads to the right have gone off.
After seeing the new site, I did actually shoot them a few suggestions based on my thoughts and member comments. Not sure if they will take any notice, but as they get a noticeable lump of traffic from here, one would hope they might.
Yes, I'm not sure how this one will play out.
I also sent them some suggestions a few days ago, but interestingly this is the first time I have not heard back from them.
I have sent suggestions before and asked questions and always received a reply within a day.
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So, one possible situation for the rapid move - lost emails?
I have seen at least one case, where a girl I was communicating with, had sent an email, that never showed up - but it showed up now, a month later!
I am unhappy about that, to be sure >:( :GRRRR:
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Yes the definitely "Sh!t the bed" on this. My bro just purchased a platinum membership and is super peeved at not being able to get into his email. We're both heading to Minsk and he wants to get some correspondence in quickly as my time will be with Anya and he might be going solo... Hope they get it together soon. On a side note don't worry if the ladies are wondering why you are not responding....Anya as well as her mother hasn't been able to login at all so they ladies are having issues as well.
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A month on and it's still garbage. It was my favorite site but now I check it maybe once a week.
The photos are too small when you're browsing, the advanced search doesn't work, if you browse by categories (such as "Online now"), it doesn't show their age, the age slider at the top doesn't work, the online/offline indicator is still wonky, if you click "Next" to go to the next page it jumps by 5 pages instead, inbox is buggy, there's no longer indication of when the girl was last online, no EOI response rate, etc. etc.
There's no way I'll be renewing my membership with the way the site is currently.
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I cancelled my membership and sent them an email stating when the get it fixed... email me.
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I wonder how well people are getting along with the new Elena's site now?
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I wonder how well people are getting along with the new Elena's site now?
Have they changed it again?
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I wonder how well people are getting along with the new Elena's site now?
Have they changed it again?
Well, they changed it a few months ago and it was all broken. But they have since had time to fix it, but from what I saw it is still painful. I just wondered if people were still using them or if the new site drove them all away.
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They probably wouldn't notice much with the state of the business overall.
Have they set up a live video chat thingy yet?
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They probably wouldn't notice much with the state of the business overall.
Have they set up a live video chat thingy yet?
I dont know. I am not a user; my interface is different.
What I can tell you is they have had financial/technical issues it seems since June. We'll call it technical errors due to the site redesign for now. Expect to see their ads vanish at weekend unless somebody there wakes up. That is all I will say for now.
What I am wondering, is have any users here used the site the last few months? Or has everyone abandoned it since the site redesign. Lurkers and low post members - I am asking you this question. Please chime in if you are currently using Elena's Models.
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What I am wondering, is have any users here used the site the last few months? Or has everyone abandoned it since the site redesign. Lurkers and low post members - I am asking you this question. Please chime in if you are currently using Elena's Models.
I seldom visit the site now.
Yes it is still painful. :(
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Yes, Manny I am still using Elena's, although I prefer F Dating. Better functioning site, and more selection = better end results.
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Coffin, nail, hammer.
If they are no longer able to pay affiliates then given their previous history we can safely infer that they did not take on board the stuff they read a few years ago - or tried too late to do something about it. The site redesign was pretty obviously a last roll of the dice and I bet that the correction work has not been done for a very good reason.
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It seems that my membership is still alive, despite no photos! Can someone drop me a line to E2147495725?
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I sent them some constructive criticism about a month before my membership was due to expire. I listed out all the bugs and missing features (from the old site) in bullet point form as well as the browsers I was using, OS, etc.
They have fixed a number of my complaints but the site is still very lacking. Because of that I let my membership expire a few weeks ago.
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Just managed to log on after a password reset request...
Entered Belle's EM ID as she requested in both member ID search and advanced search entered E2147495725 and got "No Record(s) Found."
Went to my Homepage and found an Advanced Search function...
re-entered Belle's ID and "No Record(s) Found." Ok so tried the Advanced search by country with the age slider 18 to 80 - surprising how many 50+ models there are!
Any way tried advanced search with country Canada and ONLY 31 ladies profiles ages 18 to 80 total for all of Canada - talk about scrubbing the ladies database - one way to make sure you have fresh (bait) profiles!!!
And no searching by city or postal code - conclusion a complete and utter fustercluck.
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More testing - searched Ukraine 18 to 32 got 93 pages at 15 profiles per page for a total of only 1400+/1 ladies in all of Ukraine - what a joke I would use mamba or VK or even Facebook or ugh gasp hargh AWEB truth be told as EM has committed e-commerce suicide here.
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Guess I got out before this site went to hell...worked well for me with ease of use and cost.
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It seems that my membership is still alive, despite no photos! Can someone drop me a line to E2147495725?
I entered your ID, and the reply was 'Sorry, there are no records.' Of course I don't have an EM membership but with the old site even those without membership could search for a specific ID #.
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Coffin, nail, hammer.
If they are no longer able to pay affiliates then given their previous history we can safely infer that they did not take on board the stuff they read a few years ago - or tried too late to do something about it. The site redesign was pretty obviously a last roll of the dice and I bet that the correction work has not been done for a very good reason.
I have been using EM for almost two years. Haven't been active since around May but still checked it out occasionally since the site remodelling because I had a paid membership that was still valid.
I'd say that it was a fairly vibrant site with a lot of traffic until recently. Its gone into free fall with this new website and there are far less women on it currently than was the case a year ago.
I'm not looking now but if I was still searching, I would think twice about signing up for it again. The old site was actually reasonably functional and easy to use and did have a lot of traffic.
Not sure what you are on about affiliates though? ???
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I am engaged so I don't use Elena's models anymore. However, I have tried
to use it since I've heard of their redesign and it's a mess. They abandoned
the advanced search features. What idiots. That was the best feature of their
site. I could search for a 175 cm and taller girl, or I can find every girl in my
age range in a certain city.
They must have a death wish, or the unemployed brother in law that can't
hold a job redesigned it for them and they can't fire him.
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I am engaged so I don't use Elena's models anymore. However, I have tried
to use it since I've heard of their redesign and it's a mess. They abandoned
the advanced search features. What idiots. That was the best feature of their
site. I could search for a 175 cm and taller girl, or I can find every girl in my
age range in a certain city.
They must have a death wish, or the unemployed brother in law that can't
hold a job redesigned it for them and they can't fire him.
They have added back in, the advanced search, but all the graphical gewgaws, popups, sliders etc. make the site 5x slower than before.
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They have added back in, the advanced search, but all the graphical gewgaws, popups, sliders etc. make the site 5x slower than before.
Exactly! Besides all the bugs, the site is so tediously slow now with all the above, that it makes for a most unpleasant experience.
Not one conducive to having me return any time soon.
They must have a death wish, or the unemployed brother in law that can't
hold a job redesigned it for them and they can't fire him.
Here are two replies to my most recent complaints, written by the unemployed brother:
1. "I got it now, you mean, when you click on small right and left arrows to view other pictures in small size, you get that error message.
I have forwarded your complaint to our IT Department and they will fix this error shortly.
Thank you for bringing this bug to our notice."
2. "Sorry for the inconvenience caused to you. Yes we had automatic loginfeature on our old website and we are working on bringing it on our new website.
We are re-designing the loginwindow with many more options and we are going to update our website in few days.
We just need some more days for testing before we update our website with new features that includes automatic login/ remember me option. "
"... some more days", yeah right. :)
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Thanks for trying to find me my dears! Looks like it's just a code is left there...
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Is anyone still using Elena's?
Besides the fact that the site is rather slow and often times unresponsive, there are several profiles I strongly feel are fake and yet they refuse to remove them. I'm usually rather good at detecting fake profiles / correspondence. They all seem to follow a certain unrealistic pattern.
I would love to hear other member's opinions and input.
Spasiba zapomish!
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Anyone?
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Is anyone still using Elena's?
Besides the fact that the site is rather slow and often times unresponsive, there are several profiles I strongly feel are fake and yet they refuse to remove them. I'm usually rather good at detecting fake profiles / correspondence. They all seem to follow a certain unrealistic pattern.
I would love to hear other member's opinions and input.
Spasiba zapomish!
I'm not using Elena's now, but when I was, I informed them a couple of times about 'improper' profiles.
One was a profile of a woman in Ukraine. I told them I had tried to meet the woman (in Ukraine) and also had a non-visual Skype session with 'her'.
They removed 'her' profile.
The other was also a woman from Ukraine. I met her and learned she is still married. I told Elena's of this and they removed her profile too.
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EM is a study in how to ruin a useful FSUW match making site...
Looks like Elena sold it off to god knows who - originally from Yekaterinburg - she married a South African bloke - moved to OZ and ran it successfully there for a number of years... most of the ladies were legit and they had a verified profile feature early on.
Now it seems Elena sold the site with the slacking off of the MOB biz and for whatever reason did not want to compete with Adate - arguably the only globally successful MOB chat and tours site... Adate sucessfully competing against the likes of Mamba and VK in the FSU countries - the RU UA war has not helped.
Knowing a bit about the IT industry looks to me the old code that actually worked on EM was replaced with some sort of cheap freelance package from India full of Advertising spamware and completely untested code with no functional or load testing what so ever...
Would not surprise me if it was now owned by underworld operators more interested in identity theft than match making and I will not be using this hacko-spam-a-rama again.
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I wanted to share my experience on opinion regarding Elenas Models with the newer members.
I have reason to believe there are some fake profiles there. I have encountered some women sending me EOI's and then do not reply to any e mails. Of course this is beneficial for the site because this eats up your paid credits.
I have also encountered some women that insist on me giving them my e mail but refuse to give me their skype, or refuse to be seen on skype.
I want to advise the new people that some of the scammers, or Yuris will send you a virus through your e mail, or ask you for money.
I always prefer to have a nice conversation on skype first.
I can't really say anything positive about Elena's models. Does anyone concur?
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I wanted to share my experience on opinion regarding Elenas Models with the newer members.
I have reason to believe there are some fake profiles there. I have encountered some women sending me EOI's and then do not reply to any e mails. Of course this is beneficial for the site because this eats up your paid credits.
I have also encountered some women that insist on me giving them my e mail but refuse to give me their skype, or refuse to be seen on skype.
I want to advise the new people that some of the scammers, or Yuris will send you a virus through your e mail, or ask you for money.
I always prefer to have a nice conversation on skype first.
I can't really say anything positive about Elena's models. Does anyone concur?
I meet my wife on this site and found it easy to use and rather inexpensive...we moved away from Elena's within 2 weeks to personal e-mail and skype.
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I wanted to share my experience on opinion regarding Elenas Models with the newer members.
I have reason to believe there are some fake profiles there. I have encountered some women sending me EOI's and then do not reply to any e mails. Of course this is beneficial for the site because this eats up your paid credits.
I have also encountered some women that insist on me giving them my e mail but refuse to give me their skype, or refuse to be seen on skype.
I want to advise the new people that some of the scammers, or Yuris will send you a virus through your e mail, or ask you for money.
I always prefer to have a nice conversation on skype first.
I can't really say anything positive about Elena's models. Does anyone concur?
I meet my wife on this site and found it easy to use and rather inexpensive...we moved away from Elena's within 2 weeks to personal e-mail and skype.
It truly has seemed to change for the worse since then though.
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I meet my wife on this site and found it easy to use and rather inexpensive...we moved away from Elena's within 2 weeks to personal e-mail and skype.
That would concur exactly with my experience of EM as well!
I have reason to believe there are some fake profiles there. I have encountered some women sending me EOI's and then do not reply to any e mails. Of course this is beneficial for the site because this eats up your paid credits.
There were certainly fake profiles on EM when I was a member to - for the first few days I didn't put any photos up and was still getting EOI's from the "banner" girls!!!
It doesn't look like things have changed that much!
On the plus side it was always a really simple site/format to use :thumbsup:
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I meet my wife on this site and found it easy to use and rather inexpensive...we moved away from Elena's within 2 weeks to personal e-mail and skype.
That would concur exactly with my experience of EM as well!
I have reason to believe there are some fake profiles there. I have encountered some women sending me EOI's and then do not reply to any e mails. Of course this is beneficial for the site because this eats up your paid credits.
There were certainly fake profiles on EM when I was a member to - for the first few days I didn't put any photos up and was still getting EOI's from the "banner" girls!!!
It doesn't look like things have changed that much!
On the plus side it was always a really simple site/format to use :thumbsup:
I for certain breezed past many fake profiles and was easy to spot them after spending just a few days on the site...but I was impressed with the ease to send personal messages and then move away from the site if the lady in question had a personal e-mail account and skype...within 2 weeks I meet my wife and soon to be mother of our son!
A shame if format has changed.
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B.O.T. the "new" EM site NO LONGER FUNCTIONS CORRECTLY... try it for a day but don't let them have your Credit Card info - fore warned is fore armed... For example just did a quick search 3204 record(s) between 18 to 28 age ... using Google Chrome - clicked on multiple ladies profiles links and NONE work - this site has been turned into a complete SUCKFEST.
Seems a sleazy chat and video version of AWEB which actually does over $100M a year and has a site that actually works.
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