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Title: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on April 06, 2020, 08:11:20 AM
Any Brits here please help me with my petition to stop dick head Branson taking your hard earned tax money to rescue his ailing business ventures..

Make him suffer!!


I’ve made a petition – will you sign it?

Click this link to sign the petition:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/314463/sponsors/new?token=tAZKaX8gNRg7BrDtv_Zo

My petition:

Deny Richard Branson access to TAX payers money to rescue his business ventures.

Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business.

Richard Branson is a tax exile and contributes as little tax to the UK government as is possible. He has substantial assets and just like any small man who owns a business in the Uk would have to do, he can sell assets including his private Island to help rescue his airline. From what I see he has no rainy day fund.
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Manny on April 06, 2020, 10:54:56 AM
Done.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Wiz on April 06, 2020, 11:28:37 AM
Not a Virgin Anymore  :laugh:

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Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on April 06, 2020, 11:42:31 AM
So it has now gone to be checked if it meets the standards ,if so the petition will be live within a week..

After this time it will be share like bloody crazy .. need 100,000 signatures..I think that will be easy!

Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on April 21, 2020, 01:02:54 AM
I cannot believe my petition is still under moderation..

In the meantime Virgin Australia has gone into administration... :thumbsup: tiphat

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-52363428

And let us prey the sleeve bag has to wind his other companies up...Free market economy survival of the fittest .. there will always be someone else ready to step in to the twats shoes!!

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52354865?SThisFB&fbclid=IwAR2u2ChtfxztdJVr6Pf9_TVbZgNNS694SrVLTf1Wr8Ichcb00qXkXoQaE_4
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: msmoby on April 21, 2020, 03:03:03 AM
You don't seem to get it, Steveboy...

I seriously doubt RB will be liable for much of the debt ...  'Trampu' has put businesses into bankruptcy ( ooops, sorry, Chapter 11)  SIX times  - stiffing creditors for MILLIONS - if not Billions in total..


Some folks voted for him, thinking this experience ( 'Good businessman') would make him a great 'leader'...  So..

Branson for PM ? ....


Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on April 21, 2020, 12:00:05 PM
You don't seem to get it, Steveboy...

I seriously doubt RB will be liable for much of the debt ...  'Trampu' has put businesses into bankruptcy ( ooops, sorry, Chapter 11)  SIX times  - stiffing creditors for MILLIONS - if not Billions in total..


Some folks voted for him, thinking this experience ( 'Good businessman') would make him a great 'leader'...  So..

Branson for PM ? ....

Of course he will not!! Do you think Im that stupid!! I just want him to loose Virgin Atlantic so it is no longer his.. :laugh:

He is an obnoxious little as swipe who pretends to be a friend of the working class.. some kind of hero like robin hood ..
never liked the dick..

Now he is sending patronising letters to his staff.. He has a f**** big mouth , that pews out a obnoxious smell  :chuckle:

He also went against the will of the people who voted to leave the EU.. BUT now wants those people to bail him out!! The general public are to stupid to make a decision about Europe as he kind of said.. BUT the general public are ok when it comes to a bail out.. :ROFL:

Joke or what!!
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on April 22, 2020, 02:06:53 AM
I don't like the leftist Guardian but they did a good story about Tricky dicky!@!

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/richard-bransons-bailout-plea-proves-145642730.html
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: rosco on April 22, 2020, 03:21:34 AM
You don't seem to get it, Steveboy...

I seriously doubt RB will be liable for much of the debt ...  'Trampu' has put businesses into bankruptcy ( ooops, sorry, Chapter 11)  SIX times  - stiffing creditors for MILLIONS - if not Billions in total..


Some folks voted for him, thinking this experience ( 'Good businessman') would make him a great 'leader'...  So..

Branson for PM ? ....

Donald Trump lives in your little head, rent free. It must be horrible being Moby.  :snivel:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: msmoby on April 22, 2020, 03:53:36 AM


Donald Trump lives in your little head, rent free. It must be horrible being Moby.  :snivel:

Your daily psychological ASSessments for the day constantly entertain ... Are you sure I'm not living in YOUR head ? ;)
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on April 22, 2020, 04:11:59 AM
looks like there are already a few petitions going..

https://www.change.org/p/boris-johnson-pm-ensure-sir-richard-branson-sells-private-assets-before-being-bailed-out-by-the-government?recruiter=138104440&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial&recruited_by_id=1c058960-1fa4-11e4-9532-f54f2519675e&utm_content=fht-21267471-en-gb%3Av2
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: rosco on April 22, 2020, 05:13:36 AM


Donald Trump lives in your little head, rent free. It must be horrible being Moby.  :snivel:

Your daily psychological ASSessments for the day constantly entertain ... Are you sure I'm not living in YOUR head ? ;)

I correct your howlers, you just howl about Trump. Knowledge is power. 🤫
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: msmoby on April 22, 2020, 05:20:37 AM


I correct your howlers, you just howl about Trump. Knowledge is power. 🤫

You've 'corrected' my howlers on what ?  Forgetting you'd once called me ? :chuckle:

Certainly not on immigration, international qualifications or even Russia ...

As for 'Trampu' or 'Brexit' ... history will show us who called that right !    I'm so glad BoJo was cared for by a Portuguese Nurse .... hopefully she'll have reminded him that more of her kind cannot come, soon ...
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: msmoby on April 22, 2020, 05:23:57 AM
looks like there are already a few petitions going..

Well, he's deep 'sixxed' his Aussie avaiation  involvement - leaving Quantas no opposition and offered to put up one of his Caribbean island as collateral - so the guy - unlike 'Trampu' is not  adverse to losing something of his own ...
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on April 22, 2020, 08:06:29 AM
Branson must be the poorest Billionaire on the planet! He actually owns nothing! No trains, no planes, no ships nothing its all on the tick or half owned by other people with more money than himself..

How the hell does a billionaire not have the power to even raise 300 million? What sort of billionaire is that then?

The man is a total clown with some shitty Island in the Caribbean that every now and again gets ripped to pieces by a hurricane..
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: msmoby on April 22, 2020, 08:38:11 AM
Steveboy, I can think of a President of the biggest country on earth...

He ( claims to ) owns f'all, too...

Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on April 23, 2020, 11:48:32 AM
The USA meaning of a billion is a thousand million, or one followed by nine noughts (1,000,000,000). Increasingly in this country we are using the USA meaning of a billion for these big numbers, and a trillion for the old UK meaning of one followed by twelve noughts.

So a billion is a thousand million.. tricky dicky is apparently worth 4500 Million..

Yet the little twat cannot even get his hands on 300 million cash?? :ROFL:


I see this quiet often in life really and it makes me laugh all the time.. I know so many people who say they have this, say they have that , say they are worth this or that but in reality they actually own jack shit!!

For example you can have a friend who says my house is worth 400K I got a car worth 20K I got all the latest gear, the latest clothes .. so you tell this person some super discount holiday come along and already 4 mates are going its JUST 600 GBP which is nothing .. yet this person does not actually even have 600 quid..spare in his pocket..

It is why I always look on the vast majority of people talk total bullshit about their finances and net worth.. the bottom line is if you have no cash at hand in the bank, under the matteress.. liquid assets with no loan on .. then really you have zilch ...


Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Wiz on May 02, 2020, 05:39:05 AM
Billionaire Branson wants government support in the pandemic
downturn – and resorted to attention-grabbing tactics to get it


(https://cdni.rt.com/files/2020.04/l/5ea1e2062030272ff040a23e.JPG)

 :coffeeread:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: rosco on May 03, 2020, 04:48:44 AM
I'm so glad BoJo was cared for by a Portuguese Nurse .... hopefully she'll have reminded him that more of her kind cannot come, soon ...

Why do you feel the need to constantly lie? Perhaps you’re just stupid, who knows?
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: andrewfi on May 03, 2020, 08:03:38 AM
Branson and other business people like him have a problem. They cannot (and should not) be expected to afford to pay for the salaries of people who cannot work, in large part, because of restrictions placed by national governments. That's not a normal business risk.

Many people think that the rich have a building akin to Scrooge McDuck's gold vault where piles of money are stored, available for swimming in, spending, burning, whatever. That's not how it is at all.

A sensible person will have his or wealth in large illiquid form as investments. Right now, guess what types of assets are the least liquid? Real estate, stocks, businesses. Branson cannot simply turn up hundreds of millions of pounds. He has offered to pledge his single most valuable (non airline) asset as security for a loan at sensible terms. This seems not unreasonable. He is putting up a personal asset as security for a business loan.

It is worth noting that the airline is not solely owned by Branson. Virgin Atlantic is owned by a holding company owned jointly with Delta Airlines 49%/51% yet Branson is offering to pledge a personal asset for a debt that would be only partly his responsibility.

Some moan that the business should get no help due to the lack of taxes paid in the UK. That's silly. The company is based in the UK and a large number of the employees are British based, British tax payers. The economic argument is that by keeping these people in a job with a (hopefully) viable business following restructuring the costs to the exchequer are less than the cost of a loan that is likely to be repaid.

The underlying question that should be answered though is whether a post Covid-19 world can support all the airlines and infrastructure that were in use before the virus. If the judgement is that it can't then as a matter of policy no assistance should be given, or it should be targeted on the candidates most likely to perform adequately after the virus.
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 03, 2020, 08:41:44 AM
Branson and other business people like him have a problem. They cannot (and should not) be expected to afford to pay for the salaries of people who cannot work, in large part, because of restrictions placed by national governments. That's not a normal business risk.

Many people think that the rich have a building akin to Scrooge McDuck's gold vault where piles of money are stored, available for swimming in, spending, burning, whatever. That's not how it is at all.

A sensible person will have his or wealth in large illiquid form as investments. Right now, guess what types of assets are the least liquid? Real estate, stocks, businesses. Branson cannot simply turn up hundreds of millions of pounds. He has offered to pledge his single most valuable (non airline) asset as security for a loan at sensible terms. This seems not unreasonable. He is putting up a personal asset as security for a business loan.

It is worth noting that the airline is not solely owned by Branson. Virgin Atlantic is owned by a holding company owned jointly with Delta Airlines 49%/51% yet Branson is offering to pledge a personal asset for a debt that would be only partly his responsibility.

Some moan that the business should get no help due to the lack of taxes paid in the UK. That's silly. The company is based in the UK and a large number of the employees are British based, British tax payers. The economic argument is that by keeping these people in a job with a (hopefully) viable business following restructuring the costs to the exchequer are less than the cost of a loan that is likely to be repaid.

The underlying question that should be answered though is whether a post Covid-19 world can support all the airlines and infrastructure that were in use before the virus. If the judgement is that it can't then as a matter of policy no assistance should be given, or it should be targeted on the candidates most likely to perform adequately after the virus.

Many people think that the rich have a building akin to Scrooge McDuck's gold vault where piles of money are stored, available for swimming in, spending, burning, whatever. That's not how it is at all.

Yeah but he should sell his assets what ever he has and if that means selling them at rock bottom amounts to fund his other business so be it!! He deserves absolutely jack shit!

I have a friend who run a company for 25 years employed 34 staff.. when things went tits up do you know what the administrators sold his company name and assist for on a quick sale 20k!! Yes 20k all equipment and the company continuing with its name to another company he was doing 3 million a year, about 100k worth of equipment sold an a quick shot sale for jack shit! he also owned the business unit worth 500k that is still for sale! 2 years after..

Branson has plenty of assets he can sell within 48 hours! Anyone can raid cash in a matter of hours.. you sell it for  nothing! Do you know what Joe public has to do if they get short of cash and are not born with a silver spoon in their gob? Take a log book loan out when things get dire and a crazy interest rate on their car.. or go to the pawn shop with their watch..all sorts of things.

He has property? Then put in a quick auction to raise cash so what if he gets just 50% of the value who cares it is not my problem!! And it is not anyone else problem..

I have been there and done the lot many years ago.. and certainly learnt how to never have such a shit business that you cannot get access to reasonable amounts of cash fast.. I have no credit other than a house loan.. I own every thing and have cash in the bank no one owes me and no one ever will..

If you ask me he has a pretty shit business if he does not even own most of it and cannot get his hands on a few hundred million in cash.. over investing is cash is his problem!

He can sell his Island within 24 hours very easy!! Say it is worth 2 billion? then he sells it for 500 million ..job done! There are plenty in the world with available cash IN THE POCKET who would buy at such a discount.. I cannot see why he is not forced to sell Necter Island at 30% of the value to raise some fast cash..what is the problem there.. I can give him 100K within a day :laugh:

Simple as 1-2-3







Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: andrewfi on May 03, 2020, 08:50:04 AM
Steve, if he sells at whatever price he can get right now then he gets, in practical terms nothing - forced sale, low price. Not much money, doesn't do much good.

If the asset is taken as security then if the loan isn't repaid the asset will be sold or used and at a higher price given that it wont be happening in the middle of the biggest pandemic since 1918.

The greatest good is done by maximising the value of the asset - unless you think that the action should be a case of punishing the guy for being wealthy and, I am sure that's not what you really want, is it?
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 03, 2020, 08:52:44 AM
I found the little turds Island

https://www.heart.co.uk/showbiz/celebrities/necker-island-location-worth-richard-branson/

It's just worth 80 million? How the F**** will that stand for collateral for 500 million..??  So looks like he could sell it within 24 hours at a knock down price of say 40 Million?? :laugh:

So just needs another 460 million now.. what else has the twat got to sell?? London property? Cars? Boats ? all can be sold within 24 hours..he could even sell hi wife..
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 03, 2020, 08:59:08 AM
Steve, if he sells at whatever price he can get right now then he gets, in practical terms nothing - forced sale, low price. Not much money, doesn't do much good.

If the asset is taken as security then if the loan isn't repaid the asset will be sold or used and at a higher price given that it wont be happening in the middle of the biggest pandemic since 1918.

The greatest good is done by maximising the value of the asset - unless you think that the action should be a case of punishing the guy for being wealthy and, I am sure that's not what you really want, is it?

Steve, if he sells at whatever price he can get right now then he gets, in practical terms nothing - forced sale, low price. Not much money, doesn't do much good. This happens every single day of the year to thousands of ordinary people , they get nothing.. it is life!! He should of run his company better then..millions and millions of people have had to nearly give away assets to pay the bills..

Normal people do not get such deals Ever!

Punishing him for being rich? Noooooo I have nothing against making money or anyone making money and I have nothing against rich people we all want to make money.. nothing wrong there.. that is not the issue.. BUT I do have a problem with rich people like Branson who has a huge mouth!! So big he even tried to overturn the public vote to leave the EU this is much much much more important to me about the guy, a guy who generally thinks the general public are to stupid to make a decision about leaving the EU..

The guy is a total onanist..

Myself I have very strong principles and would never in my life do on to others what I would not expect myself.. But Branson it works like this

You decide to buy a nice place in Estonia and it is just going through with the estate agent.. I step in and say Hell Andrew what are you doing buying a place in Estonia!! You cannot do this I do not think it is a good idea! You should buy a place in the UK Im telling you now what you should be doing.. then whilst you are sleeping I call your estate agent and try to stop the sale, I tell them sorry my friend Andrew has gone a bit funny recently and has no idea what he is doing. and so on and so on..

Then guess what? One month later my business goes down the pan and I call you up and say "hey Andrew could you lend me 100K"

I think I know your answer..

It is no different with Branson.. the slime bag..

Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: AvHdB on May 03, 2020, 09:30:06 AM
While I may be mistaken, Necker Island owned in some Virgin company (R. Branson) is a very expensive resort. Sailed by it three? years ago, my thought after someone told me about it, big deal. I suspect the resort hotel/inn on St. Peters also in the British Virgin Islands is twice as nice.

But in fact I could care less, not my thing.
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 03, 2020, 09:44:41 AM
Branson is a real shister...

The guy sends out patronizing letters to his staff about trying to save their jobs.. but hang on a minute he sent his staff home pretty dam fast without wages..

Your telling me he cannot pay their salary for 6 weeks? You may argue the point "Why should he pay the salary" This is correct nothing wrong with that! This guy

https://sports.yahoo.com/sheeran-furlough-083555372.html?src=rss.       he's happy to pay his staff for a few months out of his own pocket I guess you could say as some kind of respect .. If I had a guy or two working for me I would Aldo be happy to pay their salary for 2 months out of my own pocket, and so do many others..

The thing with tricky dicky is this he always presents himself as a kind of "Peoples person" which he is in fact far from!! Virgin owned the local health clinic in Lyme Regis for a period and he was a shitty payer and the locals were glad to see the back of him..

But anyway back to the "Peoples man " he falsely tries to market him self st.. "Peoples man"? He couldn't even pay his staff 6 week from Virgin funds.. what sort of a business can you have with no cash in the bank to do this? Pretty shit if you ask me?

He is no peoples man. he is just a shister and so what if his shitty airline goes bust.. plenty of other bigger fish went the same way. TWA.. PANAM.. big iconic brands.. but someone else stepped into their shoes , someone else employed the staff..

No one will miss tricky dicky.. as they say what comes round goes round and more more the case for this turd..





Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: andrewfi on May 03, 2020, 09:52:03 AM
Ed Sheeran is paying for staff at his private pub. It's a handful of people. The Virgin Group employs over 8000 on the airline. A slight difference in scale.

I'd bet there are legal reasons connected to fiduciary responsibility that limit the ability of Virgin to fly the business into the ground to the detriment of the shareholders.
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 03, 2020, 10:22:10 AM
Ed Sheeran is paying for staff at his private pub. It's a handful of people. The Virgin Group employs over 8000 on the airline. A slight difference in scale.

I'd bet there are legal reasons connected to fiduciary responsibility that limit the ability of Virgin to fly the business into the ground to the detriment of the shareholders.

Yeah but ed Sheridan is worth just 170 million .. Virgin apparently is worth billions.. it makes no difference If I paid 2 members of staff full salary for 2 months that would be = to 8000 staff from Virgin..It is no different to the head of Amazon bragging about what a do good'er he is giving 3 billion to charity.. I would consider myself more generous than him if I just gave $500 to charity..

Of course Im not saying here it is any employers responsibility or not responsibility to pay staff that is up to the employer at all times..

But as I said Branson markets himself as a kind of peoples man who looks after his staff.. in fact he does not really any more than any other employer..


He has also spent billions /millions of Virgin galactic . it is a loss making venture at the moment of course maybe one day it will make some money but at the moment it is loss making and has been for years..

Maybe if he was such a good business man he would of not started investing in Virgin galactic till he had a decent rainy day fund.. if you ask me that is bad business and in any case it is always bad to over invest..

The man is a shister and nothing more.. I know for sure I will never fly Virgin.. but I have principles and for absolutely sure I would never ever go cap in hand to anyone especially people who I previously called stupid..which is basically what the turd is doing.. he is asking the general public for a bail out/cheap loan how ever you want to dress it up.. he is begging the people a few months back that he considered stupid dumb ass mo***** ***** that is the truth of the matter..
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Wiz on May 03, 2020, 08:03:28 PM
Ed Sheeran is paying for staff at his private pub. It's a handful of people. The Virgin Group employs over 8000 on the airline. A slight difference in scale.

I'd bet there are legal reasons connected to fiduciary responsibility that limit the ability of Virgin to fly the business into the ground to the detriment of the shareholders.

Laker Airways was a wholly private, British independent airline founded by Sir Freddie Laker in 1966. It was originally a charter airline flying passengers and cargo worldwide. The company did not survive Mrs Thatcher recession of the early 1980s (3.5 Million unemployed) and on 5 February 1982, Laker Airways collapsed owing £270m. Three years after the failure, rival transatlantic airlines settled a lawsuit that alleged they had colluded to cut fares and force Sir Freddie out of business.

Freddie Laker, founder and chairman of Laker Airways,, was a wonderful man and I am honoured to have met him! He gave me the best advice on how to make money. "Pile them High and make them cheap" and worked perfectly for me, 1978 - 1981, as a small company I made a lot of money at that time organising  holidays and flights to Greece.

Mrs Thatcher, also,  did not intervene to  provide Government Guarantees to Midlands Bank, in March 1991 to protect the International Leisure Group and its Airline Air Europe that was the main supplier of charter seats to Intasun Leisure, and many other small operators like mine!

As Richard Branson is not domicile in the UK and his companies are registered in Switzerland just wonder if he paid any taxes in the UK?

Didn't the Government had to Nationalise Virgin trains because ....... why now we should pay for his losses of Virgin Airlines.?

How many other British Airlines are loosing money because of the lockout and sorting out their own staff......

When Air Europe went bust my small company lost over £50 000, at the time,  that was paid in 1990 deposits for flight to be operated during next summer?

My company did not get any money back.... banks had priority!  >:(

PS: Steve try to find his Bio..... he almost went to prison... for not paying VAT!

Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Wiz on May 04, 2020, 01:17:39 AM
Branson and other business people like him have a problem. They cannot (and should not) be expected to afford to pay for the salaries of people who cannot work, in large part, because of restrictions placed by national governments. That's not a normal business risk.

The underlying question that should be answered though is whether a post Covid-19 world can support all the airlines and infrastructure that were in use before the virus. If the judgement is that it can't then as a matter of policy no assistance should be given, or it should be targeted on the candidates most likely to perform adequately after the virus.

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Make your choice........who to save!

As about Branson's Guarrantees, his islands ....... I am sure you read that have been destroyed by the typhoon.........and their value......is not 500 million....I read!

 tiphat
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: AvHdB on May 04, 2020, 08:01:00 AM
As about Branson's Guarrantees, his islands ....... I am sure you read that have been destroyed by the typhoon.........and their value......is not 500 million....I read!

Which guarantees? How many islands does he own? Which typhoon destroyed the islands? Have you seen any of the islands?

You read, I assume Cat in the Hat.

Note: My initial post did not correctly indicate the author. It is in fact Wiz as visible above, Reply#29.
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 04, 2020, 08:05:40 AM


As about Branson's Guarrantees, his islands ....... I am sure you read that have been destroyed by the typhoon.........and their value......is not 500 million....I read!


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He must have have some clothes or a few houses, boats he can do a quick fire sale with..

I can highly recommend a great series "If you can't pay we will take it away" Watch a few episodes of that then decide if dip wit should be entitles to a bail out from the UK tax payers..




Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 04, 2020, 08:17:56 AM
There are just two people I cannot stand .. both arrogant, double standards do as I say but not as I do and all the usual shit that comes out of these peoples foul disgusting mouths..

1. Richard Branson

2. Victoria beckam

Victoria beckam is another dumb ass   https://meaww.com/victoria-beckham-employees-furlough-salary-pay-taxpayers-net-worth-posh. She changed her mind on this now due to public outcry.. :laugh:

This women I really cannot stand .. she is a dumb f**** who only has the ability to wash a few plates nothing more..yet for some real crazy unknown reason she thinks she is some kind of fashion icon.. :laugh:

Who the hell would want to buy her crappy brand is way beyond me! I cannot think what mentality any women would wish to buy any of her crap and yes it really is crap made in Bangladesh anyone who considers them selves fashionable and trendy with any of her garbage must with be as stupid as her or completely friggin brain dead..my wife would never buy her trash and if she did I would bin it whilst she slept!!

Beckem has never made rouble with any of her business ventures and always asks her husband to bail her out or pay the creditors.. YET for some  christ knows reason considers herself a fashion icon.. :laugh: What a dumb b***

And this women really even thinks people are interested in her stupid dumb ass kids!! Who the hell is interested in her kids? Only other dumb asses!!

Victoria beckam  :sick0012: :sick0012: :sick0012: No thanks!








Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: AvHdB on May 04, 2020, 09:51:54 AM
Ms. Beckam is seriously annoying and it would be on my list. * BUT if she was available and I could use a noise cancelling device, I might do mankind a small favour and pound her.



*in some ways a better version than the original, unfortunately ms is not on the list!
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 04, 2020, 10:02:00 AM
Ms. Beckam is seriously annoying and it would be on my list. * BUT if she was available and I could use a noise cancelling device, I might do mankind a small favour and pound her.



*in some ways a better version than the original, unfortunately ms is not on the list!


I can't stand the bloody women!! If for some reason I was ever famous or on some list and had to meet her and for some reason would have to shake her hand I would just say

"You know what Victoria? I really cannot stand you! I'm not going to shake your hand"

I certainly would never do so to please anyone..

Horrible little women..
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Manny on May 04, 2020, 10:12:34 AM
I like Victoria Beckham.  :nod:

I've no time for Beardy Branson though.

Perhaps we could rename this topic "People Steve Hates"?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 04, 2020, 11:16:00 AM
I like Victoria Beckham.  :nod:

I've no time for Beardy Branson though.

Perhaps we could rename this topic "People Steve Hates"?  :chuckle:

I can honestly tell you I do not hate many people.. Im not a hateful person! Im easy going but I just hate people with double standards..and hypocrites Yes I can't stand hypocrites  I do not care what people do in life, you do what you have to do to make life how you want, most want to make money and be happy myself included..life is to short to bicker too much..If some one is robbing banks for a living I don't care.. as long as they don't rob me,,

But those two yes I hate the dumb asses!!

I like Victoria Beckham but could you just explain one little thing what you like about this poisoned dwarf ?  :laugh:





Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Wiz on May 04, 2020, 11:28:21 AM
As about Branson's Guarrantees, his islands ....... I am sure you read that have been destroyed by the typhoon.........and their value......is not 500 million....I read!

Which guarantees? How many islands does he own? Which typhoon destroyed the islands? Have you seen any of the islands?

You read, I assume Cat in the Hat.

Note: My initial post did not correctly indicate the author. It is in fact Wiz as visible above, Reply#29.

I suggest when you come to your senses and the wine has stop controlling your head..... go and make some searches about the Necker Island that he bought for $28,000 dollars...... you will discover that it was destroyed from a hurricane.........

DO NOT TRY TO BE CLEVER for the sake to ridicule my comments.

You are justs a TROLL and nothing else... go talk to your mate Moby!

 :evilgrin0002:

Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: AvHdB on May 04, 2020, 12:22:20 PM
As about Branson's Guarrantees, his islands ....... I am sure you read that have been destroyed by the typhoon.........and their value......is not 500 million....I read!

Which guarantees? How many islands does he own? Which typhoon destroyed the islands? Have you seen any of the islands?

You read, I assume Cat in the Hat.

Note: My initial post did not correctly indicate the author. It is in fact Wiz as visible above, Reply#29.

I suggest when you come to your senses and the wine has stop controlling your head..... go and make some searches about the Necker Island that he bought for $28,000 dollars...... you will discover that it was destroyed from a hurricane.........

DO NOT TRY TO BE CLEVER for the sake to ridicule my comments.

You are justs a TROLL and nothing else... go talk to your mate Moby!

 :evilgrin0002:

Please understand Stud Muffin, first, NO typhoon passed by Necker Island.

Second, until presently, only Hurricane Irma has caused damage to the British Virgin Islands. While reported Necker Island was destroyed, they were receiving guests when I sailed by in the early winter. Other islands were more heavily damaged and the American Virgin Island were devastated.

We can assume that you have never seen Necker Island, except perhaps the pictures in a brochure. As mentioned above I sailed by it, big deal. 

While I am not sure, if you think that island is worth 500 million $US, I have a bridge connecting Brooklyn to Manhattan for sale. The generous chap that I am I will make a special price for you! For what it is worth he DID NOT buy the island as you suggest for $ 28,000.=

A veritable Greek oracle of misinformation is Wiz.

When you get past Cat in the Hat, perhaps an English classic such as Winnie the Pooh?
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Manny on May 04, 2020, 12:31:49 PM
I like Victoria Beckham but could you just explain one little thing what you like about this poisoned dwarf ?  :laugh:

I read her books and she came across really nice and good hearted, and she's from a decent family. I knew a few folks who met them when they lived up here when he was at United, people liked them. I always thought she was the best looking of the Spice Girls, and she's matured into a pretty keen looking milf.

Sure her fashion label isn't the most successful, but it's the millionaire version of a rich housewife bird with a shop selling candles and smelly stuff. Keeps her busy, she gets to hang out with designers and folks like Elton. Why not? They don't need the clothes thing to make a profit, it's a hobby really. Better she does that on his dime than be bored at home and end up shagging her tennis coach.

She's actually got a superb fashion sense, but not so much business sense. Her stuff is great looking and well cut but simply not good value for money. Had she have pitched lower in the market within reach of average middle class folks, it'd have done well. Her mistake was trying to enter the market at Versace and Hermes level without the history.

Also she kept her family together through some rocky times with the added pressure of the media spotlight.
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: AvHdB on May 04, 2020, 12:55:21 PM
I like Victoria Beckham but could you just explain one little thing what you like about this poisoned dwarf ?  :laugh:
Also she kept her family together through some rocky times with the added pressure of the media spotlight.

This I can respect but on the television and radio she is just annoying to the extreme. Perhaps it is her particular accent, but please STFU!
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Lord of the Dance on May 04, 2020, 01:00:00 PM
I have a bridge connecting Brooklyn to Manhattan for sale. The generous chap that I am I will make a special price for you!

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

For what it's worth, we've decided to unload a few of our property holdings in the FL keys after hurricane Irma came through a few years back... did a lot of damage on Islamorada (fortunately our house is flood/storm proof, but some of the rentals are not).

Wiz, you should know that a typhoon is not native to the North Atlantic nor Caribbean oceans.

A short cartoon on Sir Richard Branson:


Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Lord of the Dance on May 04, 2020, 02:21:30 PM
I'll be honest, I really don't know too much about this fella, Sir Richard. I suppose my limited knowledge of his exploits would be his involvement in the aerospace industry. But a bit of YouTubing netted this interesting piece detailing his private island and the (sometimes famous) guests he hosts there. Definitely an eccentric of the far-out-there variety.

As to this bailout stuff, my personal belief is that a government should never interfere with business, whether for better or for worse... that's just not within the job description of a country's government.

Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: andrewfi on May 04, 2020, 02:44:15 PM
I tend toward the don't bail out businesses but there are times when it can be worthwhile. For example, a government might take the view that some businesses or sectors had a national strategic value. Or it might be that the failure of the business might have far reaching and unfortunate consequences. Then there's the costs involved in taking a load of people out of the workforce as compared to keeping an otherwise sound business working.

These factors are even more important at times like this. I am absolutely not making a case for Virgin here, but pointing out that a blindly doctrinaire approach is not the best way to go.
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 04, 2020, 04:43:56 PM
I like Victoria Beckham but could you just explain one little thing what you like about this poisoned dwarf ?  :laugh:

I read her books and she came across really nice and good hearted, and she’s from a decent family. I knew a few folks who met them when they lived up here when he was at United, people liked them. I always thought she was the best looking of the Spice Girls, and she’s matured into a pretty keen looking milf.

Sure her fashion label isn’t the most successful, but it’s the millionaire version of a rich housewife bird with a shop selling candles and smelly stuff. Keeps her busy, she gets to hang out with designers and folks like Elton. Why not? They don’t need the clothes thing to make a profit, it’s a hobby really. Better she does that on his dime than be bored at home and end up shagging her tennis coach.

She’s actually got a superb fashion sense, but not so much business sense. Her stuff is great looking and well cut but simply not good value for money. Had she have pitched lower in the market within reach of average middle class folks, it’d have done well. Her mistake was trying to enter the market at Versace and Hermes level without the history.

Also she kept her family together through some rocky times with the added pressure of the media spotlight.

folks like Elton  Christ i forgot that one!! Elton John a despicable person utterly.. here we have the usual hypercritical pr*** that hangs about with other pr***s .. here is a guy who has the f*** audacity to tell the likes of you and me to cut down our C02 emissions , take less holidays , use the car less often whilst this fat twat lays in bed sucking his partners plums and ordering private jets to collect his friends for a weekend party..

Then he has the bloody audacity  to say it is ok for him as he will pay some conscience tax to some green planet fund and plant a few trees to offset it.. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: he must think the general public are stupid.. of course he does!

What a idiot the guy has landed up as..

So ok one more to  the list

1. trick dicky
2. dip shit beckem
3. elton plum sucker john
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Dogsoldier on May 04, 2020, 11:27:25 PM
I like Victoria Beckham but could you just explain one little thing what you like about this poisoned dwarf ?  :laugh:

I read her books and she came across really nice and good hearted, and she’s from a decent family. I knew a few folks who met them when they lived up here when he was at United, people liked them. I always thought she was the best looking of the Spice Girls, and she’s matured into a pretty keen looking milf.

Sure her fashion label isn’t the most successful, but it’s the millionaire version of a rich housewife bird with a shop selling candles and smelly stuff. Keeps her busy, she gets to hang out with designers and folks like Elton. Why not? They don’t need the clothes thing to make a profit, it’s a hobby really. Better she does that on his dime than be bored at home and end up shagging her tennis coach.

She’s actually got a superb fashion sense, but not so much business sense. Her stuff is great looking and well cut but simply not good value for money. Had she have pitched lower in the market within reach of average middle class folks, it’d have done well. Her mistake was trying to enter the market at Versace and Hermes level without the history.

Also she kept her family together through some rocky times with the added pressure of the media spotlight.

folks like Elton  Christ i forgot that one!! Elton John a despicable person utterly.. here we have the usual hypercritical pr*** that hangs about with other pr***s .. here is a guy who has the f*** audacity to tell the likes of you and me to cut down our C02 emissions , take less holidays , use the car less often whilst this fat twat lays in bed sucking his partners plums and ordering private jets to collect his friends for a weekend party..

Then he has the bloody audacity  to say it is ok for him as he will pay some conscience tax to some green planet fund and plant a few trees to offset it.. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: he must think the general public are stupid.. of course he does!

What a idiot the guy has landed up as..

So ok one more to  the list

1. trick dicky
2. dip shit beckem
3. elton plum sucker john

Has your Mrs taken social distancing to an extreme and banned you from the bedroom?  :chuckle:

You seem to be awful shirty of late.  :ROFL:

Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Wiz on May 04, 2020, 11:34:54 PM
While I am not sure, if you think that island is worth 500 million $US, I have a bridge connecting Brooklyn to Manhattan for sale. The generous chap that I am I will make a special price for you! For what it is worth he DID NOT buy the island as you suggest for $ 28,000.=

A veritable Greek oracle of misinformation is Wiz.

Zionist Troll..... I told you to search and find the info..... not if you went sailing near his island!  Find another person to play your silly trolling games!

I have more important thing to do with my life!

 :evilgrin0002:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 05, 2020, 12:11:40 PM
I like Victoria Beckham but could you just explain one little thing what you like about this poisoned dwarf ?  :laugh:

I read her books and she came across really nice and good hearted, and she’s from a decent family. I knew a few folks who met them when they lived up here when he was at United, people liked them. I always thought she was the best looking of the Spice Girls, and she’s matured into a pretty keen looking milf.

Sure her fashion label isn’t the most successful, but it’s the millionaire version of a rich housewife bird with a shop selling candles and smelly stuff. Keeps her busy, she gets to hang out with designers and folks like Elton. Why not? They don’t need the clothes thing to make a profit, it’s a hobby really. Better she does that on his dime than be bored at home and end up shagging her tennis coach.

She’s actually got a superb fashion sense, but not so much business sense. Her stuff is great looking and well cut but simply not good value for money. Had she have pitched lower in the market within reach of average middle class folks, it’d have done well. Her mistake was trying to enter the market at Versace and Hermes level without the history.

Also she kept her family together through some rocky times with the added pressure of the media spotlight.

folks like Elton  Christ i forgot that one!! Elton John a despicable person utterly.. here we have the usual hypercritical pr*** that hangs about with other pr***s .. here is a guy who has the f*** audacity to tell the likes of you and me to cut down our C02 emissions , take less holidays , use the car less often whilst this fat twat lays in bed sucking his partners plums and ordering private jets to collect his friends for a weekend party..

Then he has the bloody audacity  to say it is ok for him as he will pay some conscience tax to some green planet fund and plant a few trees to offset it.. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: he must think the general public are stupid.. of course he does!

What a idiot the guy has landed up as..

So ok one more to  the list

1. trick dicky
2. dip shit beckem
3. elton plum sucker john

Has your Mrs taken social distancing to an extreme and banned you from the bedroom?  :chuckle:

You seem to be awful shirty of late.  :ROFL:

Are you saying I have no sex? My wife says I'm a non stop sex machine ... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Wiz on May 07, 2020, 01:03:09 AM
Why The UK Government Won’t Help Virgin Atlantic


 tiphat

Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: andrewfi on May 07, 2020, 01:29:30 AM

Are you saying I have no sex? My wife says I'm a non stop sex machine ... :chuckle:

Just like she has convinced you that a centimeter is the same as an inch.
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 07, 2020, 02:52:35 AM

Are you saying I have no sex? My wife says I'm a non stop sex machine ... :chuckle:

Just like she has convinced you that a centimeter is the same as an inch.

Someone always told me its not how big it is, it is how you use it.. :laugh: :laugh:

Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Lord of the Dance on May 07, 2020, 10:56:15 AM

Are you saying I have no sex? My wife says I'm a non stop sex machine ... :chuckle:

Just like she has convinced you that a centimeter is the same as an inch.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: msmoby on May 08, 2020, 03:31:55 PM
I'm so glad BoJo was cared for by a Portuguese Nurse .... hopefully she'll have reminded him that more of her kind cannot come, soon ...

Why do you feel the need to constantly lie? Perhaps you’re just stupid, who knows?

Hmm, tell us about what band a nurse needs to be to earn £25k under the coming rules ..

You say you have nursing friends ... you'll find who was 'lying' ..

https://www.nurses.co.uk/careers-hub/nursing-pay-guide/


Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: rosco on May 10, 2020, 09:34:54 AM
I'm so glad BoJo was cared for by a Portuguese Nurse .... hopefully she'll have reminded him that more of her kind cannot come, soon ...

Why do you feel the need to constantly lie? Perhaps you’re just stupid, who knows?

Hmm, tell us about what band a nurse needs to be to earn £25k under the coming rules ..

You say you have nursing friends ... you'll find who was 'lying' ..

https://www.nurses.co.uk/careers-hub/nursing-pay-guide/

I’ll assume you’re being deliberately obtuse here for political point scoring, rather than simply being down right retarded?

For the sake of discussion, let’s be really silly and pretend the UK Govt sends home anyone speaking with a funny accent or has a darker skin than we. It’s never going to happen without good reason but let’s carry on.

Your lot love to paint a picture of the NHS being majority staffed by non Ukr’s which is again a lie but let’s pretend and we’re left with say 20% of the staff because we threw them all out for being brown.

Now, not only does this sound utterly ridiculous when written never mind being factually incorrect, it would also never happen. What Brexit would allow is for the country to accept immigrants who bring with them a net gain and by meeting said criteria, it’s win win for both parties. Those who’s skills or demographics are required, are welcomed with open arms whilst those who bring incompatible cultures, crime, social problems and generally cost us money, get turned away. When you throw a garden party, you invite people who contribute in one way or another, one doesn’t simply invite unknown individuals or criminals.....no matter how liberal they are.

So if we need nurses for the NHS and the only place we can find them is Somalia, then it’s obvious the immigration criteria would be favourable if you were a Somali nurse. Over and above that, we can then set in motion the vehicle to educate and train UK nurses because we have identified a shortage.

It’s not a hard concept to understand and it’s not racist, something you lot again love to lie about. So back to my original question, why do you lie about Boris not accepting non UK nurses after Brexit, if it brings about a shortage? Do you think Boris would throw them out and then think, oh no we’ve got no nurses because I threw out all the brown people? You really think like that Moby?  :'(

yes, I’m aware that I’ve just wasted another 5 minutes of my day on you, pointing out the bloody obvious. Now for once in life just get back to me and admit you’re wrong and that arguing is a horrible yet uncontrollable facet of your odd little personality disorder.
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: andrewfi on May 10, 2020, 05:00:09 PM
Steveboy, is there a pattern building here about self deception fuelled by flattery?
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: msmoby on May 10, 2020, 06:37:05 PM


yes, I’m aware that I’ve just wasted another 5 minutes of my day on you, pointing out the bloody obvious. Now for once in life just get back to me and admit you’re wrong and that arguing is a horrible yet uncontrollable facet of your odd little personality disorder.

..You did indeed and never dealt with the question that put a 15" round through your 'armour' ..  ( sorry 'argument' ) ..   Once again, you prove you are clueless re current and future immigration law ...  and the plight of UK nursing and need for help from other nations... help that will slow down, if there's

1/ No deal re EU workers rights

2/ a min salary set at a rate that will make it nigh on impossible to recruit Nurses from neighbouring EU nations

What nursing grade was the Portuguese Nurse ?  ..
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 12, 2020, 05:02:31 AM
Steveboy, is there a pattern building here about self deception fuelled by flattery?

I think I have been seeing to many guys Bios and bullshit over the years it's kind of rubbing off on me  :laugh:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 12, 2020, 05:03:56 AM
So the twat is finally selling some stuff like most other normal people have to do..

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/richard-branson-sheds-majority-stake-165109935.html

keep going tricky dicky...
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: andrewfi on May 12, 2020, 12:25:57 PM
Steveboy, is there a pattern building here about self deception fuelled by flattery?

I think I have been seeing to many guys Bios and bullshit over the years it's kind of rubbing off on me  :laugh:

I wasn't thinking of what you read in biographies. :)
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: rosco on May 12, 2020, 03:11:38 PM


yes, I’m aware that I’ve just wasted another 5 minutes of my day on you, pointing out the bloody obvious. Now for once in life just get back to me and admit you’re wrong and that arguing is a horrible yet uncontrollable facet of your odd little personality disorder.

..You did indeed and never dealt with the question that put a 15" round through your 'armour' ..  ( sorry 'argument' ) ..   Once again, you prove you are clueless re current and future immigration law ...  and the plight of UK nursing and need for help from other nations... help that will slow down, if there's

1/ No deal re EU workers rights

2/ a min salary set at a rate that will make it nigh on impossible to recruit Nurses from neighbouring EU nations

What nursing grade was the Portuguese Nurse ?  ..

Moby, be a good chap and read what I write. You talk rubbish about a post you obviously can’t understand or you wouldn’t embarrass yourself like this.

To steal a quote, is it dishonesty or stupidity, on your behalf? Either way it’s wasting my time.

And if you’re telling me you know all about future UK immigration requirements before the government does......then that’s why they call you Mystic!!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: msmoby on May 14, 2020, 09:42:09 AM



..You did indeed and never dealt with the question that put a 15" round through your 'armour' ..  ( sorry 'argument' ) ..   Once again, you prove you are clueless re current and future immigration law ...  and the plight of UK nursing and need for help from other nations... help that will slow down, if there's

1/ No deal re EU workers rights

2/ a min salary set at a rate that will make it nigh on impossible to recruit Nurses from neighbouring EU nations

What nursing grade was the Portuguese Nurse ?  ..


Moby, be a good chap and read what I write. You talk rubbish about a post you obviously can’t understand or you wouldn’t embarrass yourself like this.

To steal a quote, is it dishonesty or stupidity, on your behalf? Either way it’s wasting my time.

And if you’re telling me you know all about future UK immigration requirements before the government does......then that’s why they call you Mystic!!  :chuckle:

Rosco, I read what you wrote and it was clear you STILL hadn't a clue what health workers / care-workers in the front line were experiencing whilst you indulged in a spot of personal 'attacking ' ..

My question re the  Portuguese  nurse that cared for Boris and her grade was extremely valid and you dodged it ...

The govt have already announced their work visa criteria ..

Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 18, 2020, 12:41:54 PM
I cannot believe my bloody petition Has still not been signed off! maybe on purpose! 5 days they said and those buggers were given an extra 10 grand to work from home..

Do you know how many working class protection leagues, power to the people clubs, workers of the world unite , more pay for the unemployed , better social security clubs, pages and associations and so on I signed up ready to promote the petition , bloody piles of them and now I got all their left wing garbage coming to my facebook non stop like train!! I got to spend all week now removing it and myself from their far left garbage.. Im feeling a bit bored today so will see how many of them will remove me from their pages.. :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

(https://scontent.fhel6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/97732520_2805753006190252_4735453648614588416_o.png?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_oc=AQkD5BMsDR626dmSUp4mylfzMeDbxXG5-pHzKhtMJ9PHfKfSyAYckjQAwYK-Oph1odA&_nc_ht=scontent.fhel6-1.fna&oh=0226b0df569afa2705d22c543d883dec&oe=5EE923A9)

I only just started.. :laugh:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Manny on May 18, 2020, 04:00:13 PM
You're right. I’ve disposed of some rental properties the last year or two. Government policy is tilting against landlords too.
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: rosco on May 18, 2020, 04:05:40 PM


yes, I’m aware that I’ve just wasted another 5 minutes of my day on you, pointing out the bloody obvious. Now for once in life just get back to me and admit you’re wrong and that arguing is a horrible yet uncontrollable facet of your odd little personality disorder.

..You did indeed and never dealt with the question that put a 15" round through your 'armour' ..  ( sorry 'argument' ) ..   Once again, you prove you are clueless re current and future immigration law ...  and the plight of UK nursing and need for help from other nations... help that will slow down, if there's

1/ No deal re EU workers rights

2/ a min salary set at a rate that will make it nigh on impossible to recruit Nurses from neighbouring EU nations

What nursing grade was the Portuguese Nurse ?  ..

Mystic has obviously lost his powers. Be a good chap now Moby and apologise once you’re emotionally available?

https://news.sky.com/story/post-brexit-immigration-plans-to-replace-free-movement-with-points-system-clear-first-commons-hurdle-11990623

Officials said the system will make it easier and quicker for medical professionals around the world to work in the health service through a new fast-track NHS visa

This stuff cracks me up..... :laugh:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: rosco on May 18, 2020, 04:07:35 PM



..You did indeed and never dealt with the question that put a 15" round through your 'armour' ..  ( sorry 'argument' ) ..   Once again, you prove you are clueless re current and future immigration law ...  and the plight of UK nursing and need for help from other nations... help that will slow down, if there's

1/ No deal re EU workers rights

2/ a min salary set at a rate that will make it nigh on impossible to recruit Nurses from neighbouring EU nations

What nursing grade was the Portuguese Nurse ?  ..


Moby, be a good chap and read what I write. You talk rubbish about a post you obviously can’t understand or you wouldn’t embarrass yourself like this.

To steal a quote, is it dishonesty or stupidity, on your behalf? Either way it’s wasting my time.

And if you’re telling me you know all about future UK immigration requirements before the government does......then that’s why they call you Mystic!!  :chuckle:

Rosco, I read what you wrote and it was clear you STILL hadn't a clue what health workers / care-workers in the front line were experiencing whilst you indulged in a spot of personal 'attacking ' ..

My question re the  Portuguese  nurse that cared for Boris and her grade was extremely valid and you dodged it ...

The govt have already announced their work visa criteria ..

Indeed they have. Now wipe that egg off your chin!  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: msmoby on May 19, 2020, 04:18:41 AM


Mystic has obviously lost his powers. Be a good chap now Moby and apologise once you’re emotionally available?

https://news.sky.com/story/post-brexit-immigration-plans-to-replace-free-movement-with-points-system-clear-first-commons-hurdle-11990623

Officials said the system will make it easier and quicker for medical professionals around the world to work in the health service through a new fast-track NHS visa

This stuff cracks me up..... :laugh:


Thanks, Rosco

In one fell swoop you proved:

1/ who doesn't read

2/ if you had read you'd have realised that the Portuguese nurse would NOT qualify to be here under the new rules ..clue 70 points...

You see, once again, you are talking to somebody seeking to bring in two people under the existing and new criteria and I actually knew the rules ..
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 19, 2020, 11:30:32 AM
I cannot believe my bloody petition Has still not been signed off! maybe on purpose! 5 days they said and those buggers were given an extra 10 grand to work from home..

Do you know how many working class protection leagues, power to the people clubs, workers of the world unite , more pay for the unemployed , better social security clubs, pages and associations and so on I signed up ready to promote the petition , bloody piles of them and now I got all their left wing garbage coming to my facebook non stop like train!! I got to spend all week now removing it and myself from their far left garbage.. Im feeling a bit bored today so will see how many of them will remove me from their pages.. :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

(https://scontent.fhel6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/97732520_2805753006190252_4735453648614588416_o.png?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_oc=AQkD5BMsDR626dmSUp4mylfzMeDbxXG5-pHzKhtMJ9PHfKfSyAYckjQAwYK-Oph1odA&_nc_ht=scontent.fhel6-1.fna&oh=0226b0df569afa2705d22c543d883dec&oe=5EE923A9)

I only just started.. :laugh:


Today they all told me to fook off from the page.. especially when I pointed out that instead of sitting down complaining all their lives maybe they should get off the asses and do a little extra work.. anyway gave me something to do during coffee break.. :laugh:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: rosco on May 19, 2020, 01:48:45 PM


Mystic has obviously lost his powers. Be a good chap now Moby and apologise once you’re emotionally available?

https://news.sky.com/story/post-brexit-immigration-plans-to-replace-free-movement-with-points-system-clear-first-commons-hurdle-11990623

Officials said the system will make it easier and quicker for medical professionals around the world to work in the health service through a new fast-track NHS visa

This stuff cracks me up..... :laugh:


Thanks, Rosco

In one fell swoop you proved:

1/ who doesn't read

2/ if you had read you'd have realised that the Portuguese nurse would NOT qualify to be here under the new rules ..clue 70 points...

You see, once again, you are talking to somebody seeking to bring in two people under the existing and new criteria and I actually knew the rules ..

Oh dear Moby, what’s the point.

The government introduce a system specifically to fast track foreign staff for the NHS, dispelling your extremist guess work and anti government bigotry yet here you are still arguing about a future you have no idea about.

Let’s leave it at that shall we? Even when you’re proven wrong you insist on arguing. You genuinely believe our government will write laws (designed to help us recruit people we need) to get rid of people they need. Yes your outlook is bewildering and only you know why.

If you had actually read the article and looked at the proposed points table, before running back to argue about it, you’d see that your Portuguese nurse would easily hit 70 points, the threshold for a visa. Seriously Moby, I’m wasting my time on you.

Time better spent doing anything else, I suggest.

  :'(
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: msmoby on May 20, 2020, 03:08:20 AM
Rosco, if you simply cannot 'believe' me and why you are mistaken, read what the RCN have to say ..

"“We are concerned that these proposals from the Government will not meet the health and care needs of the population. They close the door to lower-paid healthcare support workers and care assistants from overseas, who currently fill significant numbers of posts in the health and care workforce.

"While recruitment of overseas staff shouldn’t be used as a replacement for domestic workforce supply, it’s clear that it will need to continue in the short to medium-term so that health and social care services in the UK can continue to function.

“We are clear that maintaining arbitrary salary thresholds will not enable health and social care services in the UK to recruit and retain the number of staff needed to meet the needs of the UK’s population.

“We are also very disappointed to see the Immigration Health Surcharge of £400 a year for overseas staff remain in place.  Nursing staff from abroad, whom we want to attract to the UK, already pay for the NHS through their taxes and should not have to pay this extra charge, which applies whether or not they access services”.

PS the govt decided to raise the Immigration Health Charge by over 50% and STILL make those working in the NHS pay  :dh:

Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: msmoby on May 20, 2020, 03:19:03 AM
ooops,forgot the link

https://www.rcn.org.uk/news-and-events/press-releases/royal-college-of-nursing-comments-on-new-uk-points-based-immigration-system (https://www.rcn.org.uk/news-and-events/press-releases/royal-college-of-nursing-comments-on-new-uk-points-based-immigration-system)
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: rosco on May 21, 2020, 03:32:21 AM
Blah blah blah.....

But you lied and you're deflecting from our original discussion. It's what you do and it needs to stop Moby.

The sky news article told us two things;

https://news.sky.com/story/post-brexit-immigration-plans-to-replace-free-movement-with-points-system-clear-first-commons-hurdle-11990623

1) That this nurse would easily qualify for the 70 points required. It proves you talk rubbish because you said she wouldn't. Read your own words below!

2) That more details will be released later in the year and that the plans will be scrutinised further by MP's before being voted on. This suggests that our future plans are not cast in tablets of stone contrary to what you're telling us and that you are again lying to us. You speak with some kind of faux authority and tell me I'm wrong whereas all the information released suggests I'm bang on the money. Again.

Come on Moby, do the right thing and just admit that you're wrong? These are your words below and it really does make you look rather stupid. Put your hand up and we can all move on, there's a good boy.


Thanks, Rosco

In one fell swoop you proved:

1/ who doesn't read

2/ if you had read you'd have realised that the Portuguese nurse would NOT qualify to be here under the new rules ..clue 70 points...

You see, once again, you are talking to somebody seeking to bring in two people under the existing and new criteria and I actually knew the rules ..


Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: rosco on May 21, 2020, 03:44:43 AM
Rosco, if you simply cannot 'believe' me and why you are mistaken, read what the RCN have to say ..

"“We are concerned that these proposals from the Government will not meet the health and care needs of the population. They close the door to lower-paid healthcare support workers and care assistants from overseas, who currently fill significant numbers of posts in the health and care workforce.

"While recruitment of overseas staff shouldn’t be used as a replacement for domestic workforce supply, it’s clear that it will need to continue in the short to medium-term so that health and social care services in the UK can continue to function.

“We are clear that maintaining arbitrary salary thresholds will not enable health and social care services in the UK to recruit and retain the number of staff needed to meet the needs of the UK’s population.

“We are also very disappointed to see the Immigration Health Surcharge of £400 a year for overseas staff remain in place.  Nursing staff from abroad, whom we want to attract to the UK, already pay for the NHS through their taxes and should not have to pay this extra charge, which applies whether or not they access services”.

PS the govt decided to raise the Immigration Health Charge by over 50% and STILL make those working in the NHS pay  :dh:

1) Thats a lot of whataboutery for a policy yet to be debated, voted on and implemented. The lowest paid nurses are the ones without experience, do new really need that? We have our own nurses without experience. And if we do need them, the points system still allows them to meet the requirements. No problems here, move on.

2) If the immigration health surcharge is so unfair then they don't need to come to the UK. I guarantee that they'll still come in their hoards looking for work and many will be earning decent money out of it. I agree its an emotional subject, particularly in todays market but life isn't fair. Still £400 out of a reasonable salary is better than working for a salary a tenth of that elsewhere I suppose...... :whist11: Don't like it, don't come.....but I guarantee they will.

Student pilots need to pay serious cash to even get an interview but they all know that beforehand and they still come in their numbers. Do we get outraged at that, no we don't because the nurse thing gives anti government yobs something emotional to manipulate.

None of the above changes anything Moby and your Portuguese nurse, who you've attempted to use as a pawn, would still qualify under the newly proposed rules. They've been given extra points based on their suitability, along with any other occupation that we have a shortage for. You're simply finding something to moan and complain about......which is tedious to say the least.

Now get your hand up and move on, you're looking really silly now.
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: rosco on May 21, 2020, 11:30:05 AM
Oh look, the governments discussed the new laws and decided to scrap NHS fees for foreign workers. You know, the ones that upset Moby enough to make him come out with emotionally unstable rants. Are you still claiming to be in the know Moby? Do you still insist you know better than anyone else?

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-u-turn-as-he-scraps-nhs-fee-for-foreign-health-workers-after-being-personal-beneficiary-of-carers-from-abroad-11992317

Personally I think it's the wrong decision. Everyone who hasn't paid into the system and living in the UK should pay to use it. It's only fair. I suspect this is simply a sweetener to shut people like MS up with their constant whining and moaning at every turn.

Rosco wins again and another Moby fail with his bollox. When will you stop with the howlers?!  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: msmoby on May 22, 2020, 12:57:25 AM
Hmm, it seems that Manny wants you to advise of the Boris climb down, not me  :chuckle:

1/ So I was RIGHT on the govt being totally MAD to even try such a scheme and common sense prevailed

2/ However, back to said Portuguese nurse.. Rosco. you refuse to answer the question as to her GRADE ..  Why is that ?  Is it because you KNOW Moby's been right all along and the Royal College of Nursing are on the govt's case

You can expect another climb down

Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Manny on May 26, 2020, 05:32:27 AM
From an email just now:

Quote
Sorry, we can’t accept the petition you supported – “Deny Richard Branson access to TAX payers money to rescue his business ventures.”.

It included confidential, libellous, false or defamatory information, or a reference to a case which is active in the UK courts.
Title: Re: Government Petition: Please deny Richard Branson tax payers money to fund his ailing business
Post by: Steveboy on May 26, 2020, 01:42:57 PM
From an email just now:

Quote
Sorry, we can’t accept the petition you supported – “Deny Richard Branson access to TAX payers money to rescue his business ventures.”.

It included confidential, libellous, false or defamatory information, or a reference to a case which is active in the UK courts.

Yeah bloody cheek I made that petition as simple as possible with none of that crap..

Probably one of tricky dickies friends in Westminster fixed it for him.. :laugh:

Slimmey bast****