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Information & Chat => The Expatriate Life: Living in the FSU, Asia or Elsewhere => Topic started by: Dogsoldier on March 19, 2020, 10:24:04 AM
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Im sat having a English fry up, we got plenty of bacon.. popped up the supermarket earlier shelves are packed full again..
They are giving visa extensions to any foreigners who has a visa that expires before May1st and is worried about returning to hell..from what I hear there are a lot of people not wanting to leave Russia..
Just 142 cases here.. it could be lies.. who knows .. carrying on as normal even working on my new tourist business .. But I'm still always ready for Armageddon :laugh:
Ok Steve your in Russia, saying you have bacon, made me almost fall on floor.
When travel restrictions lift, come visit me, I will show you bacon.
Beef and Bacon in FSU is mostly not fit to eat.
So when ready come on over I will give you a great steak and fresh Lobster for supper.
Bacon and eggs form breakfast :) tiphat
Food for thought.
Could be a new topic.
Your experience of eating/buying meat in the FSU?
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Im sat having a English fry up, we got plenty of bacon.. popped up the supermarket earlier shelves are packed full again..
They are giving visa extensions to any foreigners who has a visa that expires before May1st and is worried about returning to hell..from what I hear there are a lot of people not wanting to leave Russia..
Just 142 cases here.. it could be lies.. who knows .. carrying on as normal even working on my new tourist business .. But I'm still always ready for Armageddon :laugh:
Ok Steve your in Russia, saying you have bacon, made me almost fall on floor.
When travel restrictions lift, come visit me, I will show you bacon.
Beef and Bacon in FSU is mostly not fit to eat.
So when ready come on over I will give you a great steak and fresh Lobster for supper.
Bacon and eggs form breakfast :) tiphat
Im no fool trust me!! ;D I got bacon from the Uk .. usually bring about 20 packs back with me and sausages a long with steak and kidney pies :thumbsup:
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Im sat having a English fry up, we got plenty of bacon.. popped up the supermarket earlier shelves are packed full again..
They are giving visa extensions to any foreigners who has a visa that expires before May1st and is worried about returning to hell..from what I hear there are a lot of people not wanting to leave Russia..
Just 142 cases here.. it could be lies.. who knows .. carrying on as normal even working on my new tourist business .. But I'm still always ready for Armageddon :laugh:
Ok Steve your in Russia, saying you have bacon, made me almost fall on floor.
When travel restrictions lift, come visit me, I will show you bacon.
Beef and Bacon in FSU is mostly not fit to eat.
So when ready come on over I will give you a great steak and fresh Lobster for supper.
Bacon and eggs form breakfast :) tiphat
Im no fool trust me!! ;D I got bacon from the Uk .. usually bring about 20 packs back with me and sausages a long with steak and kidney pies :thumbsup:
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As with anywhere even in Russia if you have money you can buy what ever food you want best quality beef or any other food, depends where you go.. local cheap supermarket or a high class food shop..just like in the UK a cheap 1pound Chicken in Tesco or a nice organic one from the local butchers ..
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Glad to hear it, would should not have to suffer with the beef and bacon they supply.
its almost a crime lol.
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Glad to hear it, would should not have to suffer with the beef and bacon they supply.
its almost a crime lol.
The fish and chips aint the same either !! looks like I'm not going to be seeing that for a few months now :(
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Thats the 1 thing I have finally given up on, on Crimea.
They are NOT capable of making a decent steak or other cow-meat products.
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When we spent a lot of time in Estonia I had a freezer full of British bacon. The Estonians didn’t really understand bacon.
As for steak in Russia and the near regions? With the exception of the very expensive (now gone) Vostochny Express in Togliatti, it’s all crap that I had. Including expensive places in Moscow.
In Russia, chewy pork shashlik? :sick0012:
My FIL (who taught me barbecue) was shocked we use decent beef and chicken fillet here. I think he had a religious experience when he ate my barbie. :chuckle:
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The best beef, the best steaks the best of everything is here if your willing to pay for it much depends where you eat out..
Chewy old beef? Don't come across much of that when we go out..
All I really miss is fish and chips.. ;D
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I bought chicken at the bazaar.
There was a van parked up with the rear doors open and it was stacked with fresh whole chicken. The seller had a table up with some scales. Business was brisk. :chuckle:
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The best beef, the best steaks the best of everything is here if your willing to pay for it much depends where you eat out..
Chewy old beef? Don't come across much of that when we go out..
All I really miss is fish and chips.. ;D
Evpatoria has 2 or 3 very expensive restaurants. I can easily pay $30 per meal there (No drinks, just the food. Usual prices is more like $40 all in for 2 people). I tried them all for steak but its simply not possible.
My favorite top-billing restaurants:
- Moz-cafe ... they do almost all kitchens.
- St. Petersburg. More a hotel-restaurant of a 5-start hotel. Excellent food but expensive.
My favorite places to go:
- Gamlet - Not cheap, but not expensive either. Nice atmosphere
- Volodya - Shaslick fast-food setup, and damn good at it. seaside view on the balcony. (They also do take-out and delivery)
- Sushi - like the name says :)
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Meat in Russia is generally lower quality than in the USA. Nothing like Whole Foods there. I was in Moscow and there's no organic grass fed beef or free range chicken.
Azbuka Vkusna is a high end supermarket and their meats were quite good. Bought their burgers and it was fine. But steak is like $50 for a rib eye!
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The best beef, the best steaks the best of everything is here if your willing to pay for it much depends where you eat out..
Chewy old beef? Don't come across much of that when we go out..
All I really miss is fish and chips.. ;D
Evpatoria has 2 or 3 very expensive restaurants. I can easily pay $30 per meal there (No drinks, just the food. Usual prices is more like $40 all in for 2 people). I tried them all for steak but its simply not possible.
My favorite top-billing restaurants:
- Moz-cafe ... they do almost all kitchens.
- St. Petersburg. More a hotel-restaurant of a 5-start hotel. Excellent food but expensive.
My favorite places to go:
- Gamlet - Not cheap, but not expensive either. Nice atmosphere
- Volodya - Shaslick fast-food setup, and damn good at it. seaside view on the balcony. (They also do take-out and delivery)
- Sushi - like the name says :)
Evpatoria has 2 or 3 very expensive restaurants. I can easily pay $30 per meal . That is not expensive.. If your ever in St Petersburg I can give you a whole load of places where you can eat steak that is comparable to anywhere else in the world..If we go to a nice place we would pay min $100.00/150.00 for a meal pudding and drinks for two.. Moscow more some times..
I like my seafood so usually if I can will have King crab legs that's about $80.00 for a big plate enough for one Im a pig.. :laugh:
But its not all expensive you can go to many places and have a reasonable steak for $15/20
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I have had some amazing pork dishes, but I guess they don't understand bacon or smoker.
Some great chicken dishes also, but beef, not fit to eat IMO.
Even in grocery stores I have been in, can't find decent beef.
Makes you wonder, what they are doing to the cows lol.
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Evpatoria has 2 or 3 very expensive restaurants. I can easily pay $30 per meal . That is not expensive.. If your ever in St Petersburg I can give you a whole load of places where you can eat steak that is comparable to anywhere else in the world..
I'm sure you can steve, but I was talking about Crimea, which is nowhere near St Petersburg or Moscow :)
And for Evpatoria the prices are very big.... its a surprise to me too, because the grocery markets are just as expensive as in Netherlands. These restaurants must be getting their food cheaper some place else.
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Meat in Russia is generally lower quality than in the USA.
I suppose it depends on how you define quality. A lot of US meat does not meet UK and EU standards due to chlorination and very high content of hormones, antibiotics and other pharmaceuticals.
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Had THE most melt-in-the-mouth steak in Tbilisi at the end of Feb.
Good steak is a rarity outside Moscow / Piter...Most Russians ( and our leader) would reject it as 'not cooked enough'))
Cannot tell the difference in a Big Mac from Moscow to Manchester, Batumi to ( various ) Birminghams..
Bacon isn't cured / smoked in the way the Danes / Brits like it...
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I have often thought if I could figure out a way to import fresh Beef and Bacon
to FSU at a reasonable cost, I could make a fortune with a burger joint.
Show them how to make real good french fries also.
Breakfast, real fish and chips from Here, possibilities are endless.
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My FIL (who taught me barbecue) was shocked we use decent beef and chicken
fillet here. I think he had a religious experience when he ate my barbie. :chuckle:
I've never had decent beef in the FSU. I tend to eat as they
do, the when in Rome sort of thing.
I never let Angel Eyes get near the steaks. She has no idea
how to cook it except cook it until it's as dry as shoe leather.
She is fairly adept at cooking fish but will happily step aside
if I say I want a crack at it.
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My FIL (who taught me barbecue) was shocked we use decent beef and chicken
fillet here. I think he had a religious experience when he ate my barbie. :chuckle:
I've never had decent beef in the FSU. I tend to eat as they
do, the when in Rome sort of thing.
I agree with you.
I probably wasn't clear. I learned to barbecue from my father-in-law 15 years ago at the dacha. Since then I've adapted it, learned stuff and like to do what I like to do. My repertoire is reasonably limited but I'm very good at what I can do.
The folks visited us recently so they had a new experience of barbecue in the UK.
A simple thing like a nice good quality organic fillet, barbecued nicely with a bit of melted blue cheese on top. That isn't really happening in Russia. The folks loved it.
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When it comes to BBQs / Shaslik.. ( I've had a few in UK/ US / Cyprus/ Georgia / UA / RU ... ) NOTHING has come close to how one of my biz partners cooks at his family Dacha in the mountains behind Sochi
He KNOWs how how make Shaslik .. but it's chicken and pork ... Steaks are just not on their menu ..
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My FIL (who taught me barbecue) was shocked we use decent beef and chicken
fillet here. I think he had a religious experience when he ate my barbie. :chuckle:
I've never had decent beef in the FSU. I tend to eat as they
do, the when in Rome sort of thing.
I agree with you.
I probably wasn’t clear. I learned to barbecue from my father-in-law 15 years ago at the dacha. Since then I’ve adapted it, learned stuff and like to do what I like to do. My repertoire is reasonably limited but I’m very good at what I can do.
The folks visited us recently so they had a new experience of barbecue in the UK.
A simple thing like a nice good quality organic fillet, barbecued nicely with a bit of melted blue cheese on top. That isn’t really happening in Russia. The folks loved it.
I put good quality mature Stilton on ours, the rellies in Ukraine are hooked on vintage cheddar and Stilton, its always on our shopping list when visiting. My wife took a good few kilos of each over a month or so ago on her last trip :)
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In Ukraine also most have no idea about the concept of steak. Although we visited "Sam's Steakhouse" a few times in Kiev which imports its steaks and has foreign trained chef! Really Good Steak considering.
In Dnipr. the BBQ'd items are presently chicken, lamb and beef as the place the family gets it from is Islamic so no pork there. Not bad really, but do miss the pork though.
On an earlier visit to Yalta the shop assistant wanted to cut the beefsteak for us and we ended up with stewing meat she had no idea of what or how a steak should look at all. At least here at home we can get good Alberta beef for steaks.
As to bacon there is a reason even Americans call it "Canadian Bacon" since we tend to use more of the pork loin rather than the other fatty stuff that passes for bacon generally.
Past visit to St Petersburg loved the hotel lunch as their steak and fries was almost as good as back here at home in Canada.
As to chips last visit in the Fall to Dnipr. found a new place in a city centre mall that serves fish and chips. The chips are the thin cut ones similar to what is sold by Lay's etc. Really good even went back and bought more before we left for Vienna and later home. In Austria we also enjoy the "Nordic Fish" fast food places too.
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In Ukraine also most have no idea about the concept of steak. Although we visited "Sam's Steakhouse" a few times in Kiev which imports its steaks and has foreign trained chef! Really Good Steak considering.
In Dnipr. the BBQ'd items are presently chicken, lamb and beef as the place the family gets it from is Islamic so no pork there. Not bad really, but do miss the pork though.
On an earlier visit to Yalta the shop assistant wanted to cut the beefsteak for us and we ended up with stewing meat she had no idea of what or how a steak should look at all. At least here at home we can get good Alberta beef for steaks.
As to bacon there is a reason even Americans call it "Canadian Bacon" since we tend to use more of the pork loin rather than the other fatty stuff that passes for bacon generally.
Past visit to St Petersburg loved the hotel lunch as their steak and fries was almost as good as back here at home in Canada.
As to chips last visit in the Fall to Dnipr. found a new place in a city centre mall that serves fish and chips. The chips are the thin cut ones similar to what is sold by Lay's etc. Really good even went back and bought more before we left for Vienna and later home. In Austria we also enjoy the "Nordic Fish" fast food places too.
What is the name of the hotel in St. Petersburg?
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I put good quality mature Stilton on ours, the rellies in Ukraine are hooked on vintage cheddar and Stilton, its always on our shopping list when visiting. My wife took a good few kilos of each over a month or so ago on her last trip :)
Ours love British cheese as well. Wifey takes it as well.
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Meat in Russia is generally lower quality than in the USA.
I suppose it depends on how you define quality. A lot of US meat does not meet UK and EU standards due to chlorination and very high content of hormones, antibiotics and other pharmaceuticals.
True if you are eating at mcdonalds or taco bell. i get the good stuff..Waitrose did have some good quality Angus and Hereford beef when I lived there.
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There are a fair few reasonably priced restaurants in St Petersburg where you can get a good steak..
We often visit. https://www.caferubinstein.ru
If the steaks there are not good enough for anyone here then all I can imagine is you lot eat out at places such as Buckingham palace or maybe the White House.. :laugh:
But then maybe myself coming from some desolate village away from cizalisation I'm clueless about a good steak.. :laugh:
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In Ukraine I have eaten decent steak. It primarily comes from Argentina. The domestic beef is good for for stews.
Lamb is always best from a Muslim, on the market.
Chicken from a babushka who raises it and butchers the day before you get it. I have had good goose and rabbit but I am not very good at cooking it.
In the United States beef is either very very good or akin to ms’s posts. The best is pasture raised free of growth hormones and air cured, but pricey. What you purchase at the grocery store is generally of poor quality.
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In the United States beef is either very very good or akin to ms’s posts.
Given MS was trained how to cook a steak, and knows good from excellent - I'll take that as a compliment...
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In the United States beef is either very very good or akin to ms’s posts. The best is
pasture raised free of growth hormones and air cured, but pricey. What you purchase
at the grocery store is generally of poor quality.
My grandfather was a wheat and cattle rancher. 100% of our beef was pasture
raised, but the last three weeks we would feed them hay with a bucket of grain
per day to would fatten them up. We used wheat, farmers in the midwest would
use corn. We would shoot the animal in the head* and immediately drain it, quarter
it and then hang it in a dry cool place to age.
Beef tastes good because of the fat marbling and of course the cooking. You need
high heat enough to sear the meat and seal in the fat. The top flight steak houses
have grills that can cook meat at over a thousand degrees. There is no way to
replicate that at home with a regular gas or electric stove and hood, you can
buy a restaurant quality range but you also need a restaurant quality hood to
remove the smoke that cooking meat at 1100-1400 degrees creates.
The best home cooked steak is grilled on a barbecue with gas. For all those who
use briquettes or something similar you can argue but you are wrong. You can't
get the same heat and especially not the same consistent heat.
The FSU standard was to cook it so that you won't die from food poisoning. It's not
that they don't have high standards (they do) but for a bribe it's all ignored so most
FSU beef is not fattened up on expensive grain, it's not aged properly and it's cooked
to death at medium heat draining any fat out that the meat might have and that's why
they have mediocre results.
There is more to it than that but that's the cliffnote's version.
* Shooting the animal in the head with a rifle usually a 22 cal magnum.
The animal is calm and has no idea it's going to die. It's not in a long line
of other steers or heifers waiting to face death. As a result the steer doesn't
have an elevated pulse and no adrenaline racing through it's system. It's
mine and others opinion that being killed this way will make the meat taste
better.
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My Grandfather and Great uncle also had Cattle farms.
My Grandfather died before I understood any of this.
But my Great uncle and cousin ran farm for years.
I killed with first head of beef when I was 10 and quartered .
At that time it was taken to butcher to be hung, aged and then cut into different
cuts of meat.
Quality of how beef is raised is certainly a large factory to quality.
Cooking becomes a whole other conversation.
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Meat is good every where in the world probably even in the Congo!
As I said Fish and chips simply is not the same unless its in the UK same for bacon,,
Steaks and meat you can get anywhere if you can't find a decent steak house in a FSU country it will be only for two reasons..
1. You're not there long enough! You can not expect to find the best places within a few days or a week, same applies to any city in the world.
2. Your dating a women who has no money so probably will not know where to take you anyway for a good steak!
All easy really!
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Steaks and meat you can get anywhere if you can't find a decent steak house in a FSU country it will be only for two reasons..
1. You're not there long enough! You can not expect to find the best places within a few days or a week, same applies to any city in the world.
2. Your dating a women who has no money so probably will not know where to take you anyway for a good steak!
All easy really!
Ok, care to wager me on that? You goto Crimea, Evpatoria and find a restaurant for me with good quality steak..
Hell, I'll even accept passable quality steak.
I'll bet you $50 for it.
I have been trying there for at least 10 years, with 3 weeks time in-country every year
If corona doesn't mess up my travel plans, i will be there last week of july + first 2 august.
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Mark I have only been to Crimea once. They simply don’t know how to cook beef there. Whether you get a burger or a steak, they refuse to cook it medium or even medium-well. I wasn’t confident in the quality of the meat either. I agree with 2TallBill about the proper way to raise cattle and slaughter cattle.
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Meat is good every where in the world probably even in the Congo!
As I said Fish and chips simply is not the same unless its in the UK same for bacon,,
Steaks and meat you can get anywhere if you can't find a decent steak house in a FSU country it will be only for two reasons..
1. You're not there long enough! You can not expect to find the best places within a few days or a week, same applies to any city in the world.
2. Your dating a women who has no money so probably will not know where to take you anyway for a good steak!
All easy really!
I will disagree, how an animal is fed makes a difference.
As far as Bacon, and Fish and Chips, Canadian has Bacon figured out, best anywhere.
East coast our fish and chips are just as good if not better than UK.
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Meat is good every where in the world probably even in the Congo!
As I said Fish and chips simply is not the same unless its in the UK same for bacon,,
Steaks and meat you can get anywhere if you can't find a decent steak house in a FSU country it will be only for two reasons..
1. You're not there long enough! You can not expect to find the best places within a few days or a week, same applies to any city in the world.
2. Your dating a women who has no money so probably will not know where to take you anyway for a good steak!
All easy really!
I will disagree, how an animal is fed makes a difference.
As far as Bacon, and Fish and Chips,
Canada has Bacon figured out, best anywhere.
East coast our fish and chips are just as good if not better than UK.
FTFY
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Steaks and meat you can get anywhere if you can't find a decent steak house in a FSU country it will be only for two reasons..
1. You're not there long enough! You can not expect to find the best places within a few days or a week, same applies to any city in the world.
2. Your dating a women who has no money so probably will not know where to take you anyway for a good steak!
All easy really!
Ok, care to wager me on that? You goto Crimea, Evpatoria and find a restaurant for me with good quality steak..
Hell, I'll even accept passable quality steak.
I'll bet you $50 for it.
I have been trying there for at least 10 years, with 3 weeks time in-country every year
If corona doesn't mess up my travel plans, i will be there last week of july + first 2 august.
There is a business opportunity there then for you when you retire ??
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Meat is good every where in the world probably even in the Congo!
As I said Fish and chips simply is not the same unless its in the UK same for bacon,,
Steaks and meat you can get anywhere if you can't find a decent steak house in a FSU country it will be only for two reasons..
1. You're not there long enough! You can not expect to find the best places within a few days or a week, same applies to any city in the world.
2. Your dating a women who has no money so probably will not know where to take you anyway for a good steak!
All easy really!
I will disagree, how an animal is fed makes a difference.
As far as Bacon, and Fish and Chips, Canadian has Bacon figured out, best anywhere.
East coast our fish and chips are just as good if not better than UK.
It is a little like a cup of tea.. A cup of tea in Russia just doesn't seem the same back in the UK.. maybe it is the water or tea bags Im not sure... BUT Im happy to suffer for the Motherland.. :laugh:
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2TallBill, Thank you for your post #28. It sums up beef in the United States.
One interesting thing about lamb I have read and in fact tasted is those sheep raised near the sea taste better. Examples could be New Zeeland, Scotland and even little Texel. Not sure why that it is.
My suspicion is the end result is 1/3 what you start with and 2/3 technique (preparation & execution).
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There is a business opportunity there then for you when you retire ??
But then i'd have to hire a cook, who knows how to cook steak :P
I can cook steak myself, given the ingredients are of good quality but it never does turn out as restaurant-quality like netherlands restaurants can make it.
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like netherlands restaurants can make it.
Santos in Scheveningen is one of my favourite steak houses. Been going for years. :nod:
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like netherlands restaurants can make it.
Santos in Scheveningen is one of my favourite steak houses. Been going for years. :nod:
Yes thats a nice one.
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The meat in Russia is very good. I think I posted a video of ranchers from Canada, the US, Australia and Japan whom were invited to Russia back in 07-08. Russia has a couple of regions (e.g.Kaluga and Voronezh) that raise cattle and had angus cows flown in. Miratorg (Мираторг) is the largest producer and was officially established about 10 years ago.
The beef produced in Russia rivals anything I've had anywhere, period. If you haven't had a good steak in Russia it's probably because you haven't been here in awhile.
250g Ribeye (90oz) for 429ru even at a exchange rate of 65ry to $1, it's only around $6. sear it a couple of days ago and it was deliscious.
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400g top sirloin (14oz) for around $9us (at the 65ry to $1us rate above). Seared this last week and was right there in taste compared to the ribeye.
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Black Angus beef patty I simply pan fried and was amazed by the taste, simply the best beef patty I've had. 299ry or less than $3usd.
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Price for the ribeye.
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P.S. Manny for some reason the photos wouldn't attach to the file.
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Meat in Russia is generally lower quality than in the USA. Nothing like Whole Foods there. I was in Moscow and there's no organic grass fed beef or free range chicken.
Azbuka Vkusna is a high end supermarket and their meats were quite good. Bought their burgers and it was fine. But steak is like $50 for a rib eye!
https://av.ru
Saw a ribeye there 400g (14oz) for 930 rubles 2 days ago while shopping (about $15 using a 65ru exchange rate). Not quite $50 tiphat. I usually buy only the things that are hard to find in Moscow there as they usually have it. Seems pretty reasonable to me. Sorry, but don't agree with your statements.
As far as organic, well: https://esh-derevenskoe.ru/mjaso-i-ryba/govjadina?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=bondarev&utm_campaign=bondarev&fbclid=IwAR32uBoqWLbUrPE7W67_Ky54f-tLo_xES8Ld7wyIyMNNMTACI2bosE0c36Q
доставка возможна также :)
Here's another new outlet that offers some whole foods although not all their products are. They have outlets all over Moscow.
https://vkusvill.ru
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well that was a few years back and the ruble has dropped a ton since. I never saw ribeyes that cheap at AV otherwise I would have bought some. 2 burger patties was close to $10. I was shopping close to MKAD so maybe prices are higher there..
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where did you get the beef patty? your links don't work
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Dan are you still in Moscow?
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where did you get the beef patty? your links don't work
Перекресток. Yeah, I thought the links might not work for some, but they worked for me.
Dan are you still in Moscow?
да конечно.
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well that was a few years back and the ruble has dropped a ton since. I never saw ribeyes that cheap at AV otherwise I would have bought some. 2 burger patties was close to $10. I was shopping close to MKAD so maybe prices are higher there..
I used a $1 = 65 ruble rate which has been consistently about this range since 2015 (even though it's now around 80, which makes the meat even more affordable for someone like me who still has 95% of my money in $ :P). Prices are the same everywhere.
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where did you get the beef patty? your links don't work
Перекресток. Yeah, I thought the links might not work for some, but they worked for me.
Dan are you still in Moscow?
да конечно.
Maladetz! Dorogaya maya stalitsa
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Steaks and meat you can get anywhere if you can't find a decent steak house in a FSU country it will be only for two reasons..
1. You're not there long enough! You can not expect to find the best places within a few days or a week, same applies to any city in the world.
2. Your dating a women who has no money so probably will not know where to take you anyway for a good steak!
All easy really!
Ok, care to wager me on that? You goto Crimea, Evpatoria and find a restaurant for me with good quality steak..
Hell, I'll even accept passable quality steak.
I'll bet you $50 for it.
I have been trying there for at least 10 years, with 3 weeks time in-country every year
If corona doesn't mess up my travel plans, i will be there last week of july + first 2 august.
https://www.facebook.com/doctorwhiskyyalta/
I'll assume the check is in the mail. :)
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https://www.facebook.com/doctorwhiskyyalta/
I'll assume the check is in the mail. :)
When I have eaten there and the steak is passable.
MozPizza (https://yandex.ru/maps/org/mos_cafe/1933956830/?ll=33.359385%2C45.185289&source=wizbiz_new_text_single&z=18) in Evpatoria also claimed they could do steak.
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/moscafe_evpatoria/
https://doctorwhisky.ru/product-category/menyu/kuhnya/
Come to think of it, if I see how much tekst they put beneath rib-eye steak opposed to the rest of the menu they don't make it too attractive :(
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https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g295378-d12364032-Reviews-Restaurant_Doctor_Whisky-Yalta.html
Most seem to like it. But it has a varied menu.
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Most seem to like it. But it has a varied menu.
Welcome back Danchik!
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Перекресток. Yeah, I thought the links might not work for some, but they worked for me.
Perekrestok!?!?! I shopped there sometimes. never saw good beef patties. they usually had ready made food which wasn't the best. maybe your tastes and mine aren't the same...
I'd go to the Hard Rock cafe on Arbat for a good burger. it'll cost you over 1000 rubles though.
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I used a $1 = 65 ruble rate which has been consistently about this range since 2015 (even though it's now around 80, which makes the meat even more affordable for someone like me who still has 95% of my money in $ :P). Prices are the same everywhere.
You're getting paid in $...good man! I got paid in foreign currency too. less risk than with the ruble.
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Most seem to like it. But it has a varied menu.
Welcome back Danchik!
Thanks Bill. Not sure how long I'll stick around, we'll see.
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Перекресток. Yeah, I thought the links might not work for some, but they worked for me.
Perekrestok!?!?! I shopped there sometimes. never saw good beef patties. they usually had ready made food which wasn't the best. maybe your tastes and mine aren't the same...
I'm sure our tastes are different, however, I go to 4 different markets to get what I need; Перекресток, Ашан, Магнолия, и Азбука Вкуса.
To be honest, it was the first time I had seen an Angus beef patty like the one I bought. Мираторг have their own stores around Moscow now, but of course you can pick up their products at different outlets.
https://shop.miratorg.ru
I rarely, if ever, buy ready made food at Перекресток or anywhere for that matter. I usually get jalapeños, certain vegetables and some coffee cocktails that I can only find there I'm fairly discriminating about what I put in my body, intermittent fast (16/8), train 5-6 days a week and do 90% of my cooking at home. Think Mediterranean diet :). I do like a good steak every now and then though.
I'd go to the Hard Rock cafe on Arbat for a good burger. it'll cost you over 1000 rubles though.
Don't go to the Arbat much anymore, but I must say that the Hard Rock has the best fajitas in town.