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Title: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: martincop on July 01, 2020, 08:46:13 AM
Thank you for your understanding and desire to help me. I am happy to know that my feelings are mutual !!! And you, like me, value our relationship and want to help me !!!))) You write that you will help me !! Thank you, my love - I am happy !!! I can buy the necessary products and maybe enough to pay for everything you need !!!! You ask how much I need - well, I don’t know - how much you can send so much to me - and I will be very grateful to you !! I admire you!! I am very glad that you understand and support me. It will save our relationship. I don’t have to sell my laptop to pay for all this! And we will not lose each other !!!))) I am happy to know that you value our relationship, as I do !!!))) our feelings are mutual, and we can and should go further !!! Thank you for your love, that you will help me, and I will be able to buy everything you need for me! I'm happy!! Thank you very much!!!
I like your idea to meet and spend time together !! and if you decide to come to me in Ukraine! But I’m upset by the fact that we will not meet soon ((This is terrible ((due to the epidemic of the virus, now we need to wait a long time ((
I am sorry that I had to turn to you - because otherwise I would not be able to buy even food, not to mention everything else, and because of this I had to ask for help from you. I am sorry that I had to do this because I was not used to asking people for anything ... but I decided that you are my man and I can turn to you with this important question. Because it concerns our communication with you !!! So that because of this I do not have to sell my laptop on bail ((and so that our connection is not lost !! This is the most important for me !!!
I will send you my personal information so that you can use to transfer money.
Here you can get through the system Western Union or Money Gram or RIA
My name - Hanna Didenko

-Fourth email and she asks for money. Poltova sure looks like suburbs of Chicago or Berlin. For someone who needs money she sure dresses like a super model with over a dozen professionally shot photos. And she sure has casually forgotten my request for a phone number or skype.
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: BillyB on July 01, 2020, 09:20:11 AM

You'll know you're good when you identify a scammer or agency worker writing the letters on the first letter. It's easy to identify because real women don't write like that.
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Manny on July 01, 2020, 10:24:29 AM
I bet the virus is a great money spinner for scammers though, eh? Lost of sick Grannies, medicines needed, lost jobs and other sob stories.

Great post, Martin.
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: rosco on July 01, 2020, 10:27:36 AM
Thank you for your understanding and desire to help me. I am happy to know that my feelings are mutual !!! And you, like me, value our relationship and want to help me !!!))) You write that you will help me !! Thank you, my love - I am happy !!! I can buy the necessary products and maybe enough to pay for everything you need !!!! You ask how much I need - well, I don’t know - how much you can send so much to me - and I will be very grateful to you !! I admire you!! I am very glad that you understand and support me. It will save our relationship. I don’t have to sell my laptop to pay for all this! And we will not lose each other !!!))) I am happy to know that you value our relationship, as I do !!!))) our feelings are mutual, and we can and should go further !!! Thank you for your love, that you will help me, and I will be able to buy everything you need for me! I'm happy!! Thank you very much!!!
I like your idea to meet and spend time together !! and if you decide to come to me in Ukraine! But I’m upset by the fact that we will not meet soon ((This is terrible ((due to the epidemic of the virus, now we need to wait a long time ((
I am sorry that I had to turn to you - because otherwise I would not be able to buy even food, not to mention everything else, and because of this I had to ask for help from you. I am sorry that I had to do this because I was not used to asking people for anything ... but I decided that you are my man and I can turn to you with this important question. Because it concerns our communication with you !!! So that because of this I do not have to sell my laptop on bail ((and so that our connection is not lost !! This is the most important for me !!!
I will send you my personal information so that you can use to transfer money.
Here you can get through the system Western Union or Money Gram or RIA
My name - Hanna Didenko

-Fourth email and she asks for money. Poltova sure looks like suburbs of Chicago or Berlin. For someone who needs money she sure dresses like a super model with over a dozen professionally shot photos. And she sure has casually forgotten my request for a phone number or skype.

For the life of me I can’t recall, but someone else on this very forum has this retarded style to ))))))
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 01, 2020, 11:38:52 AM
Thank you for your understanding and desire to help me. I am happy to know that my feelings are mutual !!! And you, like me, value our relationship and want to help me !!!))) You write that you will help me !! Thank you, my love - I am happy !!! I can buy the necessary products and maybe enough to pay for everything you need !!!! You ask how much I need - well, I don’t know - how much you can send so much to me - and I will be very grateful to you !! I admire you!! I am very glad that you understand and support me. It will save our relationship. I don’t have to sell my laptop to pay for all this! And we will not lose each other !!!))) I am happy to know that you value our relationship, as I do !!!))) our feelings are mutual, and we can and should go further !!! Thank you for your love, that you will help me, and I will be able to buy everything you need for me! I'm happy!! Thank you very much!!!
I like your idea to meet and spend time together !! and if you decide to come to me in Ukraine! But I’m upset by the fact that we will not meet soon ((This is terrible ((due to the epidemic of the virus, now we need to wait a long time ((
I am sorry that I had to turn to you - because otherwise I would not be able to buy even food, not to mention everything else, and because of this I had to ask for help from you. I am sorry that I had to do this because I was not used to asking people for anything ... but I decided that you are my man and I can turn to you with this important question. Because it concerns our communication with you !!! So that because of this I do not have to sell my laptop on bail ((and so that our connection is not lost !! This is the most important for me !!!
I will send you my personal information so that you can use to transfer money.
Here you can get through the system Western Union or Money Gram or RIA
My name - Hanna Didenko

-Fourth email and she asks for money. Poltova sure looks like suburbs of Chicago or Berlin. For someone who needs money she sure dresses like a super model with over a dozen professionally shot photos. And she sure has casually forgotten my request for a phone number or skype.

dozen professionally shot photos. That is all you need to know  the person is a scammer! No need for any contact!


Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Manny on July 01, 2020, 12:11:36 PM
dozen professionally shot photos. That is all you need to know  the person is a scammer! No need for any contact!

I disagree. Every man and his dog is a photographer in Russia. What better route to undressed women? (https://www.instagram.com/dmitry_arhar/?hl=en) For a single guy there it's a no brainer.

Also, every woman has her 'portfolio'. My wife has one done every year. We've had family ones done too. It's not an expensive thing in Russia as you'll know.

Here's one my wife just approved for publication.

[attachimg=1]

According to Steve, now she's a scammer. I guess I'm happy still being "scammed" after 14 years.  :P

Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 01, 2020, 12:34:31 PM
dozen professionally shot photos. That is all you need to know  the person is a scammer! No need for any contact!

I disagree. Every man and his dog is a photographer in Russia. What better route to undressed women? (https://www.instagram.com/dmitry_arhar/?hl=en) For a single guy there it's a no brainer.

Also, every woman has her 'portfolio'. My wife has one done every year. We've had family ones done too. It's not an expensive thing in Russia as you'll know.

Well there are professional photos and professional "Kind off erotic" photos... You will never ever see any women on my sites with professional photos ( I hope that is not where he met her/it   :laugh::laugh:)

As far as Im concerned any women with photos like these below is a fake most women signing up do not have any special photos , just normal run of the mill photos , maybe taken by a friend at a park or something..

(https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106974333_2914922051940013_5953530469647444403_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_oc=AQkk03Sg1bVN-2MIp9RnSGMl65FJCp9U9tEZFZqewsGeekN_su2MBhEH_tpkgNAmEkA&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=24fe07be15f5c1974180027dc7ad0186&oe=5F20BE25)

(https://scontent.fhel6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106911591_2914921805273371_8017277355798169520_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_oc=AQmyDpx6LLWTeUIAEqUmWunH0dmZ_yDk2_4JBUoBGvH3q-j2WDOPBamp-iTLGEINw9U&_nc_ht=scontent.fhel6-1.fna&oh=73676a485b92ea1aa1a44bbb59daa520&oe=5F21EB5B)

Most Russian women today just upload run off the mill photos just like women on any mainstream dating site.. I think the days of Russian women joining a dating site and uploading some super photo edited photos are long gone, yea some like to do a pose and make them look nice but I don't think so many make a big point of it any more..

Just go to match.com and you will see what I mean..

Most are just like these below .. nothing sensational..

(https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106566123_2914939891938229_5190379848128751953_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_oc=AQlJrTf0dX2X2a5gt1Od8pTL5zCp1DZP_ZOBETZfBhMsWybFyGoZFD08kkvmuVZvNvA&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=d9e8243de7561bcb281db7b2b2aed1ec&oe=5F241F71)
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Texan77 on July 01, 2020, 12:54:29 PM
My warning sign to stay away is if it show off her butt or her breast too much. If it does something to imply sex I know it is not going to work out. If she tries to make the relationship grow too fast where she has a reason to claim she is owe support huge warning sign she is not real like this girl in these emails. If I say I am coming to visit and she starts to have reason not to meet me another warning sign.
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 01, 2020, 02:12:37 PM
Most women with professional photos usually land up here after a short period..

https://www.facebook.com/CupidGuardcom-1946518872238288/?view_public_for=1946518872238288

They all have the same style and pose....AND of course UNDER 35 ...
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Manny on July 01, 2020, 02:15:45 PM
Most women with professional photos usually land up here after a short period..

https://www.facebook.com/CupidGuardcom-1946518872238288/?view_public_for=1946518872238288

They all have the same style and pose....AND of course UNDER 35 ...

In the photo I posted above, my wife is over 35.  :coffeeread:
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Manny on July 01, 2020, 02:17:32 PM
Most are just like these below .. nothing sensational..

(https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106566123_2914939891938229_5190379848128751953_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_oc=AQlJrTf0dX2X2a5gt1Od8pTL5zCp1DZP_ZOBETZfBhMsWybFyGoZFD08kkvmuVZvNvA&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=d9e8243de7561bcb281db7b2b2aed1ec&oe=5F241F71)

Half of those are scary. Who takes profile photos like that?  :rolleye0009:
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 01, 2020, 02:17:37 PM
dozen professionally shot photos. That is all you need to know  the person is a scammer! No need for any contact!

I disagree. Every man and his dog is a photographer in Russia. What better route to undressed women? (https://www.instagram.com/dmitry_arhar/?hl=en) For a single guy there it's a no brainer.

Also, every woman has her 'portfolio'. My wife has one done every year. We've had family ones done too. It's not an expensive thing in Russia as you'll know.

Here's one my wife just approved for publication.

(Attachment Link)

According to Steve, now she's a scammer. I guess I'm happy still being "scammed" after 14 years.  :P


Russian women aint uploading pictures like that anymore .. maybe 20 years ago in the days of marriage agencies and when women were more eager to find a foreigner.. now women who sign up to foreign dating sites usually do it out of curiosity and just upload some pics from their phone.. just like the women on Tinder you don't see professional photos there either.. just normal run of the mill pics..

Of course there are always some who will do so.. but generally today no.. its a thing of the past..
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 01, 2020, 02:20:32 PM
Most are just like these below .. nothing sensational..

(https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106566123_2914939891938229_5190379848128751953_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_oc=AQlJrTf0dX2X2a5gt1Od8pTL5zCp1DZP_ZOBETZfBhMsWybFyGoZFD08kkvmuVZvNvA&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=d9e8243de7561bcb281db7b2b2aed1ec&oe=5F241F71)

Half of those are scary. Who takes profile photos like that?  :rolleye0009:



Everyone!! You have probably been out of dating so long you haven't noticed how things are.. go sign up to Tinder send me all the professional photos there of the Russian women? You will find very few.. as I said just run of the mill mill pics, yes some nice ones.. but nothing special no expert photo shoots.. that was decades ago,,
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Manny on July 01, 2020, 02:25:40 PM
dozen professionally shot photos. That is all you need to know  the person is a scammer! No need for any contact!

I disagree. Every man and his dog is a photographer in Russia. What better route to undressed women? (https://www.instagram.com/dmitry_arhar/?hl=en) For a single guy there it's a no brainer.

Also, every woman has her 'portfolio'. My wife has one done every year. We've had family ones done too. It's not an expensive thing in Russia as you'll know.

Here's one my wife just approved for publication.

(Attachment Link)

According to Steve, now she's a scammer. I guess I'm happy still being "scammed" after 14 years.  :P

Russian women aint uploading pictures like that anymore .. maybe 20 years ago in the days of marriage agencies and when women were more eager to find a foreigner.. now women who sign up to foreign dating sites usually do it out of curiosity and just upload some pics from their phone.. just like the women on Tinder you don't see professional photos there either.. just normal run of the mill pics..

Of course there are always some who will do so.. but generally today no.. its a thing of the past..

All wifey's mates have a zillion similar photos. They're all over VK, OK and Insta.
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 01, 2020, 02:30:24 PM
dozen professionally shot photos. That is all you need to know  the person is a scammer! No need for any contact!

I disagree. Every man and his dog is a photographer in Russia. What better route to undressed women? (https://www.instagram.com/dmitry_arhar/?hl=en) For a single guy there it's a no brainer.

Also, every woman has her 'portfolio'. My wife has one done every year. We've had family ones done too. It's not an expensive thing in Russia as you'll know.

Here's one my wife just approved for publication.

(Attachment Link)

According to Steve, now she's a scammer. I guess I'm happy still being "scammed" after 14 years.  :P

Russian women aint uploading pictures like that anymore .. maybe 20 years ago in the days of marriage agencies and when women were more eager to find a foreigner.. now women who sign up to foreign dating sites usually do it out of curiosity and just upload some pics from their phone.. just like the women on Tinder you don't see professional photos there either.. just normal run of the mill pics..

Of course there are always some who will do so.. but generally today no.. its a thing of the past..

All wifey's mates have a zillion similar photos. They're all over VK, OK and Insta.

There are only a couple of REAL Russian dating sites today.. sign up to Russiancupid then and post here a few pictures of some Russian women , your going to find there exactly what I have been talking about.. just normal run of the mill photos of Russian women..

I got photos of myself looking like Bruce willis on facebook..  :laugh:
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 01, 2020, 02:36:08 PM
here you go Russiancupid women

(https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106200606_2915206025244949_7681707829751435069_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_oc=AQkkQ80TevFtAghrp7kqSx9CxIVtoJdQMeW1yHiKXWUkJoteaqBqLV3_j90kaOML4Ek&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=766b800b239900f2ca2de40321b88b09&oe=5F22944C)

Don't see any pro photos there! Of course Im sure there will be a few.. BUT generally no not any more..

The story that Russian women always show professional photos is old hat just like the story about Russian women all need to be married by 26 or they are left on the shelf..all old stories that seldom apply today..

Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: martincop on July 01, 2020, 02:56:24 PM
Always Ukrainian women. I definitely learned from Steveboy there is a difference.
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: BillyB on July 01, 2020, 04:05:10 PM

Scammers steal professional photos of hot looking women because they get the most attention. I remember years ago an agency owner saying 20% of his women get 80% of all the attention.
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Manny on July 01, 2020, 04:09:26 PM
I remember years ago an agency owner saying 20% of his women get 80% of all the attention.

He was probably right. That's Pareto (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle).  :nod:
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Manny on July 01, 2020, 04:15:14 PM
As far as Im concerned any women with photos like these below is a fake most women signing up do not have any special photos , just normal run of the mill photos , maybe taken by a friend at a park or something..

(https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106974333_2914922051940013_5953530469647444403_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_oc=AQkk03Sg1bVN-2MIp9RnSGMl65FJCp9U9tEZFZqewsGeekN_su2MBhEH_tpkgNAmEkA&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=24fe07be15f5c1974180027dc7ad0186&oe=5F20BE25)

(https://scontent.fhel6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106911591_2914921805273371_8017277355798169520_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_oc=AQmyDpx6LLWTeUIAEqUmWunH0dmZ_yDk2_4JBUoBGvH3q-j2WDOPBamp-iTLGEINw9U&_nc_ht=scontent.fhel6-1.fna&oh=73676a485b92ea1aa1a44bbb59daa520&oe=5F21EB5B)

Number 3 has a huge arse. 5 is cute but looks 30 not 19. "Anna 23" is about 70kgs. You'd exclude 70kgs women with an arse like two badly parked VW Beetles?
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 01, 2020, 04:42:04 PM

Scammers steal professional photos of hot looking women because they get the most attention. I remember years ago an agency owner saying 20% of his women get 80% of all the attention.

Lots of women look much better in real life than their photos.. the men who just go straight for the best photos are usually the "Lifers" On line forever.. :laugh:

I got to admit I have a model looking women on the home page  BUT that's just marketing.. no different from a Macdonalds poster showing a lovely fresh hamburger,, but when you actually buy on its manky and disgusting  ;D
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 01, 2020, 04:54:48 PM
Professional photos do not help everyone..

I look better in real life.. in the photos I look like a monk.. :laugh:

Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: AvHdB on July 01, 2020, 06:41:23 PM
Professional photos do not help everyone..

I look better in real life.. in the photos I look like a monk.. :laugh:

I assumed you were a saint with an AK.
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: B.B. on July 02, 2020, 02:16:32 AM
As far as Im concerned any women with photos like these below is a fake most women signing up do not have any special photos , just normal run of the mill photos , maybe taken by a friend at a park or something..

There seems to be a photographer who has a particular style who photographs a lot of the Lvov agency girls. A bit of soft focus and a "Year of the Cat" feel to his work.  Thus they seem rather well turned out by comparison.

I have actually met Diana (bottom row, #2) socially in Lvov once or twice.  She is, AFAIK, legit, although I was not romantically involved with her so I can't say one way or the other, but she does exist and her name is Diana (or "Diana-Ekaterina", IIRC, to get past Ukr naming conventions).  She is quite attractive in person and does look like her photos.  Quite fit. 

OTOH, I knew a girl (she was friends with one of my girls) who was on agency sites .  I had dinner with her and her Russian boyfriend (good guy with a good sense of humor) a couple of times on double dates.  There are a few possibilities there, but none are particularly palatable.

My personal favorite was a woman I dated a few years ago who told me that she had just done a new portfolio, so I logged on to {name of notorious site PPL/PPC site} using a dummy account...only to discover that "she" was online.  Now, the actual girl was taking a shower in my hotel room.   :chuckle:  I showed her when she came out and we had a bit of a chuckle about taking a selfie together and sending her the photo in chat, but that would have required buying credits, etc.

B/B
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 02, 2020, 03:26:27 AM
As far as Im concerned any women with photos like these below is a fake most women signing up do not have any special photos , just normal run of the mill photos , maybe taken by a friend at a park or something..

There seems to be a photographer who has a particular style who photographs a lot of the Lvov agency girls. A bit of soft focus and a "Year of the Cat" feel to his work.  Thus they seem rather well turned out by comparison.

I have actually met Diana (bottom row, #2) socially in Lvov once or twice.  She is, AFAIK, legit, although I was not romantically involved with her so I can't say one way or the other, but she does exist and her name is Diana (or "Diana-Ekaterina", IIRC, to get past Ukr naming conventions).  She is quite attractive in person and does look like her photos.  Quite fit. 

OTOH, I knew a girl (she was friends with one of my girls) who was on agency sites .  I had dinner with her and her Russian boyfriend (good guy with a good sense of humor) a couple of times on double dates.  There are a few possibilities there, but none are particularly palatable.

My personal favorite was a woman I dated a few years ago who told me that she had just done a new portfolio, so I logged on to {name of notorious site PPL/PPC site} using a dummy account...only to discover that "she" was online.  Now, the actual girl was taking a shower in my hotel room.   :chuckle:  I showed her when she came out and we had a bit of a chuckle about taking a selfie together and sending her the photo in chat, but that would have required buying credits, etc.

B/B

Yeah but you probably fall into a different category ? A Rich sugar daddy ??  :laugh:

So yes you maybe able to find yourself some young bit.. :ROFL:
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: cufflinks on July 02, 2020, 10:40:55 AM
As far as Im concerned any women with photos like these below is a fake most women signing up do not have any special photos , just normal run of the mill photos , maybe taken by a friend at a park or something..

(https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106974333_2914922051940013_5953530469647444403_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_oc=AQkk03Sg1bVN-2MIp9RnSGMl65FJCp9U9tEZFZqewsGeekN_su2MBhEH_tpkgNAmEkA&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=24fe07be15f5c1974180027dc7ad0186&oe=5F20BE25)

(https://scontent.fhel6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106911591_2914921805273371_8017277355798169520_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_oc=AQmyDpx6LLWTeUIAEqUmWunH0dmZ_yDk2_4JBUoBGvH3q-j2WDOPBamp-iTLGEINw9U&_nc_ht=scontent.fhel6-1.fna&oh=73676a485b92ea1aa1a44bbb59daa520&oe=5F21EB5B)

Number 3 has a huge arse. 5 is cute but looks 30 not 19. "Anna 23" is about 70kgs. You'd exclude 70kgs women with an arse like two badly parked VW Beetles?

Damn sounds/looks like women with Child Bearing Hips, 2  to 3 inch thigh gap and mammaries to match ideal for raising a half dozen healthy kids on mother's milk.

Throw in a face full of feminine Fibonacci female Golden Beauty Ratios and Bingo sign me up for those beetles parked cheek to cheek... I like Teutonic Nordic Slavic mix women with high IQs.

Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: B.B. on July 02, 2020, 11:22:47 AM
Yeah but you probably fall into a different category ? A Rich sugar daddy ??  :laugh:

So yes you maybe able to find yourself some young bit.. :ROFL:

Nah, I just know what I'm about.  I'm a tall guy, and so tall women will Plow The Road for me. I'm also good with introverts in particularly.  Plus, over any population of young women - regardless of nationality - there will be a subgroup that actively prefers older men.  I'm good at figuring out who they are.

If you go fishing with gold, you catch gold diggers.

B/B
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: msmoby on July 02, 2020, 11:27:11 AM
Thank GOD, my daughters prefer guys their own age
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 02, 2020, 11:44:26 AM
Yeah but you probably fall into a different category ? A Rich sugar daddy ??  :laugh:

So yes you maybe able to find yourself some young bit.. :ROFL:

Nah, I just know what I'm about.  I'm a tall guy, and so tall women will Plow The Road for me. I'm also good with introverts in particularly.  Plus, over any population of young women - regardless of nationality - there will be a subgroup that actively prefers older men.  I'm good at figuring out who they are.

If you go fishing with gold, you catch gold diggers.

B/B

So when you finally settle down with the young bride (That I say does not exist anymore) will you post some photos here to prove me wrong? Its ok you can wear sunglasses :)
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 02, 2020, 12:14:32 PM
I think 2/3 years all those agency sites will be closed down .. new laws are coming in to combat those sort of places that charge your credit card automatically and take money from your account without authorization .. they are also coming down on firms with a high Chargeback rate .. days are seriously numbered on top of that people are so stupid these days ..and that includes the women..most already finished..
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Manny on July 02, 2020, 01:18:21 PM
a high Chargeback rate

That's par for the course with anyone trading with Americans with anything. I charge USAians 5-10% more to cover the chargebacks and the admin so they self fund that fraud. And fraud is what it is. Some products I won't sell there at all (anything that requires assembly, reading a listing that's more than 20 words to determine compatibility, thought or common sense). I also run many US transactions through a platform which prevents chargebacks as the user buys "e-money" that they then "exchange" for goods. As they received the e-money, they cant charge it back.

I'd be surprised in the dating game if you don't get circa 2-3% chargebacks. If not 5%.
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Steveboy on July 02, 2020, 01:46:38 PM
a high Chargeback rate

That's par for the course with anyone trading with Americans with anything. I charge USAians 5-10% more to cover the chargebacks and the admin so they self fund that fraud. And fraud is what it is. Some products I won't sell there at all (anything that requires assembly, reading a listing that's more than 20 words to determine compatibility, thought or common sense). I also run many US transactions through a platform which prevents chargebacks as the user buys "e-money" that they then "exchange" for goods. As they received the e-money, they cant charge it back.

I'd be surprised in the dating game if you don't get circa 2-3% chargebacks. If not 5%.

I don't do charge backs and get very few maybe 1/2 a year ..

1. There is no reason for asking for a chargeback members get exactly what they want lots of REAL women NO scammers ..So what can you complain about?

2. All conversations are kept so some times we will get a guy saying it was not how he expected .. YET he sent 5000 messages with his contact details .. thinking I have idiot tattooed on my forehead .. We will pursue you for that money via the bank or PayPal and we will also publish the persons conversation on a special scam site and hopefully make that person famous  tiphat

3. Some times a member will be picky or fussy over nothing.. Do I need to have loads of e-mails from such people? No I always delete and refund.. But they still come back and pay again.. ;D

4. It is absolutely impossible for anyone to sign up and use a stolen card for payment.. I know for sure it is a big problem for many sites scammers using stolen cards.. but naaaa that never ever happens I got best security in the world..  ;D

I got absolutely impenetrable security,,,

I hope I don't have to many moaning about the up coming tour business.. I don't like moaners and groaners Im at the time in my life when I just want to get up in the morning have my breakfast without some idiot complaining about absolutely nothing! I know they say the customer is "Always right" But they are not .. for me its easier not to have such customers..
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: redroo on July 02, 2020, 11:03:02 PM
The Ukrainian Agencies are still approaching girls on the street offering a "free" professional photo session with makeup and styling. The girls sign away their copyright to the photos but get a set/usb to take away. Then the trap is sprung ....."we have this other business chatting to western guys, and you can earn money from chat and gifts". Some refuse, but the agency has the photos and an in-house "translator" just converses with guys. Most guys who sign up are "lookers" not travellers so there's little risk. Some girls do play along and come in to do video sessions at the agency, and a few will meet the guys for their one week holiday even though they have a boyfriend or husband.
It's wrong Steve to say all glamorous photos make the girls "fake". The girls exist, just 90% their identities are being used by the Agencies...with or without her knowledge. Some are real, and some can be decent girls......but then I get to visit for 3 months, year after year, and the "one week wonders" have no chance to figure out who's who.

Like Manny, my Slavic partners have enjoyed a yearly photo session, and take along a few changes of clothing including lingerie and bikinis.

Like BB (was it?) I also was with a girl once while "her" profile was active chatting on HRB. We did take a photo and send it to the impersonator.....the conversation ceased immediately, and my girl got an abusive phone call  :laugh:

This period of Covid has seen a rise in the number of ex-girlfriends popping up out of the blue. Unfortunately for them the "bank of me" is close for renovation  :biggrin:  My own girl did lose her job and I am supporting her, but then we have an actual relationship. With me unfortunately locked in Australia until Sept 17 at the earliest, it's a "socials" existence for now. If they don't open our border outbound by then, I might have to swim to NZ and fly from there  :ROFL:
Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: cufflinks on July 03, 2020, 01:28:38 PM
What all of you old wrinkle necked trouts and younger swinging dicks are up against in the age of social media.... The Affluence Academy for Women...


Title: Re: You gotta love this - after 4 emails
Post by: Manny on July 03, 2020, 05:00:03 PM
What all of you old wrinkle necked trouts and younger swinging dicks are up against in the age of social media.... The Affluence Academy for Women...


I skimmed through that, irritating guy who is too slow to get to the point. And his points are common sense that any long term member here knows instinctively. Also women need a counter against greedy guys.