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Information & Chat => Health, Fitness, Diet and Lifestyle => Topic started by: shakespear on September 27, 2020, 08:33:53 PM
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Well it's been a 42 year absence but I started smoking marijuana again.
Each state is different but here in Ohio you can get a permit for medical use marijuana. You need to get a medical doctor to approve you after an interview and a review of your medical record. You can then go to a legal dispensary and buy it like a supermarket. Price is between $70-$80 for 5.7 grams of flower tops. You can also get gummies and oils if you prefer.
I've been using the Indicus strain trying to find something that will help me fall asleep at night.
Anyone else partaking in the "evil weed"?
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I've heard that hemp gummies can help to relax or sleep.
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A friend of mine is in his mid 50’s & suffers from joint pain (excuse the pun) and arthritis, of which years of rugby didn’t help. He’s bought a weed vape which is illegal over here but discrete. It’s like a flat pen with a THC oil holder housed at the bottom and connected to an app on his phone for management. No smell and I assume healthier than tobacco/weed mix.
He claims to be sleeping well, experiences less pain and has found a dosage that doesn’t blow him away. We call it the peace pipe but I had a shot at his BBQ after a few too many beers earlier this year and refer to it as the breach of the peace pipe.
I had an interesting walk home that evening, I think the wife wanted kiddy reins for me! :chuckle:
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I've heard that hemp gummies can help to relax or sleep.
Yea that’s all the rage over here at the moment. Haribo style gummy bears made with THC oil I’m guessing? I’m thinking younger folks want the hit but smoking isn’t as popular.
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Rosco, this might be absolutely a case of teaching granny to suck eggs so apologies in advance!
Normally one doesn't vape oil! In fact, it seems that the cases of people dying or being made ill by vaping in the USA last year were doing just that! They were vaping THC/marijuana oil because it was much cheaper than the proper stuff. The oil does not vaporise and it buggers up the lungs in short order. Some vendors do themselves no favours by calling what they sell THC vape oil.
Proper vape fluids use propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin as carriers for the active ingredient.
Marijuana and I are not friends but THC is legal in the UK. I have tried it and found the effect to be mildly relaxing. It is sold in UK vape shops for pain relief and relaxation. Personally I find a high nicotine vape juice to be more effective for relaxation than the THC so I change up to that on occasion. Fortunately I do not seem to find nicotine addictive.
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Rosco, this might be absolutely a case of teaching granny to suck eggs so apologies in advance!
Normally one doesn't vape oil! In fact, it seems that the cases of people dying or being made ill by vaping in the USA last year were doing just that! They were vaping THC/marijuana oil because it was much cheaper than the proper stuff. The oil does not vaporise and it buggers up the lungs in short order. Some vendors do themselves no favours by calling what they sell THC vape oil.
Proper vape fluids use propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin as carriers for the active ingredient.
Marijuana and I are not friends but THC is legal in the UK. I have tried it and found the effect to be mildly relaxing. It is sold in UK vape shops for pain relief and relaxation. Personally I find a high nicotine vape juice to be more effective for relaxation than the THC so I change up to that on occasion. Fortunately I do not seem to find nicotine addictive.
I'd need to ask more to clarify exactly what he has but I understand that what he has, isn't legal and it was quite expensive, in fact more so than a bag of weed. The 'oil' was £150 on its own and it was a dark web sort of purchase rather than just a simple adapted vape machine from a street vendor. I have heard about those ones too.
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Ah, that's more clear. There's a thing whose name I don't recall that can use weed or oil. It's a different principle to vaping. IIRC it's more akin to shisha.
The reason I made the point above was the health and safety issue. I didn't want other people reading the thread to get the idea that vaping cannabis oil was safe - it isn't!
I found out about the thing in the USA after being told by several people that vaping was going to kill me - something I was sure was untrue - so I did a bit of research. ;)
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I went to the doctor for some back pain. He said it was degenerative disease which means I'm getting old. He told me the back pain may never go away but he can prescribe medicine. I asked if the medicine has side effects and can cause other health issues. He said yes. I told him to keep the medicine, I'll live with the pain.
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Well it's been a 42 year absence but I started smoking marijuana again.
Each state is different but here in Ohio you can get a permit for medical use marijuana. You need to get a medical doctor to approve you after an interview and a review of your medical record. You can then go to a legal dispensary and buy it like a supermarket. Price is between $70-$80 for 5.7 grams of flower tops. You can also get gummies and oils if you prefer.
I've been using the Indicus strain trying to find something that will help me fall asleep at night.
Anyone else partaking in the "evil weed"?
I have been known to be in the vicinity of it on occasions, but will only cop to getting a contact high. :chuckle:
The marijuana that's being cultivated today sure and the hell isn't your daddy's weed, it's a helluva lot stronger, or so I hear. :P
It will be legal soon across the USA once big Pharma and the politicians get itheir hook on the pipeline.
My brother is a connoisseur to say the least. The strains can go as high as 29-30% THC. It was around 4-5% until maybe 20 years ago or so. I can safely say though, the morning after is much better than a night of boozing.
Eating it will be a different high and yes I've done it. It metabolises much differently in the body when eaten, so you have to be extra careful with your dosage. Eating too much can be a problem, I mean a serious problem, for the less experience.
I will say there are more than a few Russians who like to partake. :-X
I went to the doctor for some back pain. He said it was degenerative disease which means I'm getting old. He told me the back pain may never go away but he can prescribe medicine. I asked if the medicine has side effects and can cause other health issues. He said yes. I told him to keep the medicine, I'll live with the pain.
Try some edibles Billy, it will help for sure. Not sure it will cure your problem, but it can definitely ease the pain.
I recommend this book by Dr. John Sarno for back pain, the guy is "the back whisperer". https://jgbukz.ga/read.php?id=EnN2sVVZOAIC.
I don't trust doctors when it comes to back pain. Most are looking to cure the symptoms and not the root cause, and of course skilfully operate on your wallet.
I had back problems and sciatica off and on for a couple of years in the early 2010's and haven't had any problems in the last 5 years after reading this book and following the advice by the good "Doc". It is/was a godsend IMO, and I bless the day I discovered it.
You can read about what other doctors thought about his methods years ago in the book. He (Dr. John Sarno) took a lot of heat from the medical community back in the day until they noticed that his cure rate was 97%. The "best" back specialists were/are lucky to get half that success, even today.
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I never developed a taste for the stuff. I tried it as a teenager and wasn’t impressed enough to make it a habit. Most of the people here who smoke it seem to be mentally retarded proles. I can’t comment about the people that claim to take it for medical purposes. I know people claim it helps various conditions. I used to have a girlfriend who smoked it, and it used to drive me up the wall.
It suits the government if people are dossing around at home in a vegetative state. It means they have no time to think about revolutions and protests and politicians can keep stuffing their pockets full of money. If they can tax it, that will suit them.
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Vaping THC is not the same as smoking cannabis. The chemicals that get a person high are removed from the stuff you vape.
The stuff that helps pain and other things remains.
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Vaping THC is not the same as smoking cannabis. The chemicals that get a person high are removed from the stuff you vape.
The stuff that helps pain and other things remains.
Andrewfi is talking about CBD's. Here in Ohio anyone on the street can walk into a store and buy CBD's. Pot with THC is the stuff you have to get a medical prescription to buy. Each state has their own peculiar laws. For example in Ohio I can legally buy medical marijuana but for vaping only. If I roll it into a joint and smoke it I've violated the law.
There are two species of marijuana: canabis sativa and canabis indicus. The former is the type that makes you giddy, and gives you the munchies. The later makes you calm relaxed and sleepy.
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What a bunch of pot heads.
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Well it's been a 42 year absence but I started smoking marijuana again.
Did you mean abstinence?
Nothing can be more enjoyable than clear and healthy mind.
Something is going on in your life, and you are trying to medicate yourself.
I would like to warn you about some basic consequences of using marijuana:
1. It's a depressant, like alcohol. With everyday use, you will develop depression.
2. It's highly addictive.
3. You will gain weight.
Doxepin 10mg before bed will let you sleep like a baby. It also helps with pain and improves mood.
And it's cheap.
Thanks for the legal information.
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I told him to keep the medicine, I'll live with the pain.
Love it! :)
Still, there are many nonpharmacological interventions to keep pain under control.
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I would like to warn you about some basic consequences of using marijuana:
1. It's a depressant, like alcohol. With everyday use, you will develop depression.
2. It's highly addictive.
3. You will gain weight.
I don't agree with you. It is a depressant but regular use will not lead necessarily lead to depression. It is not physically addictive at all and is only slightly mentally addictive. I smoke right before going to bed and don't eat anything until next morning. Satavia is the species that gives you the "munchies". Most strains of Indicus do not have that side effect.
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Trying to buy some flower tops of the Bio-Chem strain by 303 Seeds. Been told that this is the best strain for sleep. Can't seem to find any on line for sale.
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I went to the doctor for some back pain. He said it was degenerative disease which means I'm getting old. He told me the back pain may never go away but he can prescribe medicine. I asked if the medicine has side effects and can cause other health issues. He said yes. I told him to keep the medicine, I'll live with the pain.
One of the reasons my doctor approved me for medical marijuana was to get off small dose prescription opioids for pain. Pot does a great job of pain relief. You might want to give it a try.
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I don't agree with you.
I expected that.
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I like the state of mind I'm in. My wife likes the state of mind I'm in. No need to change my mind.
Shakespear, if you are having a hard time sleeping, work and exercise more to get yourself mentally and physically tired. It's an all natural solution and not only will you accomplish a lot, you will have exercised your brain and you'll be in good physical shape. I work two businesses and work extra hard to keep the wife happy. After spending my remaining energy harassing people on the internet, I'm tired at the end of the day and I sleep like a baby.
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Well it's been a 42 year absence but I started smoking marijuana again.
Did you mean abstinence?
Nothing can be more enjoyable than clear and healthy mind.
Something is going on in your life, and you are trying to medicate yourself.
I would like to warn you about some basic consequences of using marijuana:
1. It's a depressant, like alcohol. With everyday use, you will develop depression.
2. It's highly addictive.
3. You will gain weight.
Doxepin 10mg before bed will let you sleep like a baby. It also helps with pain and improves mood.
And it's cheap.
Thanks for the legal information.
There is no evidence that any of the above is scientifically true.
Marijuana is not for everyone and different people will react differently to the "drug". There are some people who should definitely not use it, ever.
There is no scientific evidence that marijuana causes depression with everyday use over time. Marijuana is a depressant drug, which means it slows brain receptors. It also amps up dopamine, so it acts as an antidepressant/stimulant to many. Dosage is also key. It can also act as hallucinogen to some, again depending on dose and person. There are so many factors that go into depression, that to say one thing causes it is disingenuous.
I personally know thousands of healthy, happy people who light up on a regular basis. Businessmen, lawyers, contractors, DOCTORS/nurses, people from all walks of life, all whom are highly productive in their fields.
It's highly addictive - again complete BS for most of the people using it. While there are some who, because of the chemistry of their brain, have a higher chance to become "psychologically" addicted. Nevertheless, marijuana for the vast majority of people isn't addictive. If you want to make an argument that marijuana is psychologically addictive, you won't get much of an argument from me, although again, this affects a small percentage of people.
It certainly isn't anywhere close to being physically addictive like tobacco and alcohol, nor is the "collateral" damage from marijuana use anywhere near what it is for those two "socially" accepted DRUGS. And I won't even get into food chemistry and its negative consequences, but it takes me to this comment.
You will gain weight - huh? This is a ridiculous statement and completely unfounded.
Marijuana should not be used by some people, this is a well known fact. Adolescents/teens should not use it, especially given today's strength. There are always risk factors when taking any drug including many OTC drugs which I assume everyone here has used one time or another. Even food can be addictive, which IMO, suggests an addictive personality.
I'll take a good, clean strain of marijuana over doxepin anyday for sleep, are you kidding me.
Some people swear by CBD's which haver a much lower level of THC. While it's certainly no cure-all, it has been shown to be effective for pain relief, mild depression, insomnia. and especially epilepsy. There is still more research that needs to be done to pinpoint its effectiveness.
Some of the comments here are reminiscent of the movie below; IOW old and outdated. Part of the problem is that marijuana has been stigmatised for generations. Of course, there are downsides to marijuana use for some people, as with most things in life.
Maybe some of you can relate. :)
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Trying to buy some flower tops of the Bio-Chem strain by 303 Seeds. Been told that this is the best strain for sleep. Can't seem to find any on line for sale.
Are you in Florida yet Shakey? You shouldn't have a problem finding what you want there.
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After spending my remaining energy harassing people on the internet, I'm tired at the end of the day and I sleep like a baby.
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
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One of the reasons my doctor approved me for medical marijuana was to get off small dose prescription opioids for pain.
We started with the sleep problem. Now there is pain and opioids use.
No more comments!
Thanks for being open-minded.
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Well it's been a 42 year absence but I started smoking marijuana again.
Did you mean abstinence?
Nothing can be more enjoyable than clear and healthy mind.
Something is going on in your life, and you are trying to medicate yourself.
I would like to warn you about some basic consequences of using marijuana:
1. It's a depressant, like alcohol. With everyday use, you will develop depression.
2. It's highly addictive.
3. You will gain weight.
Doxepin 10mg before bed will let you sleep like a baby. It also helps with pain and improves mood.
And it's cheap.
Thanks for the legal information.
There is no evidence that any of the above is scientifically true.
Marijuana is not for everyone and different people will react differently to the "drug". There are some people who should definitely not use it, ever.
There is no scientific evidence that marijuana causes depression with everyday use over time. Marijuana is a depressant drug, which means it slows brain receptors. It also amps up dopamine, so it acts as an antidepressant/stimulant to many. Dosage is also key. It can also act as hallucinogen to some, again depending on dose and person. There are so many factors that go into depression, that to say one thing causes it is disingenuous.
I personally know thousands of healthy, happy people who light up on a regular basis. Businessmen, lawyers, contractors, DOCTORS/nurses, people from all walks of life, all whom are highly productive in their fields.
It's highly addictive - again complete BS for most of the people using it. While there are some who, because of the chemistry of their brain, have a higher chance to become "psychologically" addicted. Nevertheless, marijuana for the vast majority of people isn't addictive. If you want to make an argument that marijuana is psychologically addictive, you won't get much of an argument from me, although again, this affects a small percentage of people.
It certainly isn't anywhere close to being physically addictive like tobacco and alcohol, nor is the "collateral" damage from marijuana use anywhere near what it is for those two "socially" accepted DRUGS. And I won't even get into food chemistry and its negative consequences, but it takes me to this comment.
You will gain weight - huh? This is a ridiculous statement and completely unfounded.
Marijuana should not be used by some people, this is a well known fact. Adolescents/teens should not use it, especially given today's strength. There are always risk factors when taking any drug including many OTC drugs which I assume everyone here has used one time or another. Even food can be addictive, which IMO, suggests an addictive personality.
I'll take a good, clean strain of marijuana over doxepin anyday for sleep, are you kidding me.
Some people swear by CBD's which haver a much lower level of THC. While it's certainly no cure-all, it has been shown to be effective for pain relief, mild depression, insomnia. and especially epilepsy. There is still more research that needs to be done to pinpoint its effectiveness.
Some of the comments here are reminiscent of the movie below; IOW old and outdated. Part of the problem is that marijuana has been stigmatised for generations. Of course, there are downsides to marijuana use for some people, as with most things in life.
I had so much fun with this "scientific" post!!!
--"it slows brain receptors" - there is no such physiological actions like "slowing" receptors. There are agonists, antagonists, patial agonist, inverse......... and so on.
--"It also amps up dopamine" - marijuana has nothing to do with dopamine. It acts on two receptors: CB1 and CB2. The location of those receptors in brain modulates the response. For example, disruption of short-term memory in marijuana users explained by abandance of CB1 receptors in hippocampus.
--"It can also act as hallucinogen" - marihuana is not a hallucinigen. Having hallucinations with marihuana use called PSYCHOSIS.
-- "Marijuana is a depressant drug", and then "There is no scientific evidence that marijuana causes depression with everyday use over time". just read what you wrote.
--"You will gain weight - huh?" - marijuana is effective in treatment of cachexia in cancer patients.
That's enought. I don't like to write long posts.
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The AMA stigmatized marijuana in order to control how people treat certain problems.
My understanding is the older less potent mj was better.
Never took it though
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Well it's been a 42 year absence but I started smoking marijuana again.
Did you mean abstinence?
Nothing can be more enjoyable than clear and healthy mind.
Something is going on in your life, and you are trying to medicate yourself.
I would like to warn you about some basic consequences of using marijuana:
1. It's a depressant, like alcohol. With everyday use, you will develop depression.
2. It's highly addictive.
3. You will gain weight.
Doxepin 10mg before bed will let you sleep like a baby. It also helps with pain and improves mood.
And it's cheap.
Thanks for the legal information.
There is no evidence that any of the above is scientifically true.
Marijuana is not for everyone and different people will react differently to the "drug". There are some people who should definitely not use it, ever.
There is no scientific evidence that marijuana causes depression with everyday use over time. Marijuana is a depressant drug, which means it slows brain receptors. It also amps up dopamine, so it acts as an antidepressant/stimulant to many. Dosage is also key. It can also act as hallucinogen to some, again depending on dose and person. There are so many factors that go into depression, that to say one thing causes it is disingenuous.
I personally know thousands of healthy, happy people who light up on a regular basis. Businessmen, lawyers, contractors, DOCTORS/nurses, people from all walks of life, all whom are highly productive in their fields.
It's highly addictive - again complete BS for most of the people using it. While there are some who, because of the chemistry of their brain, have a higher chance to become "psychologically" addicted. Nevertheless, marijuana for the vast majority of people isn't addictive. If you want to make an argument that marijuana is psychologically addictive, you won't get much of an argument from me, although again, this affects a small percentage of people.
It certainly isn't anywhere close to being physically addictive like tobacco and alcohol, nor is the "collateral" damage from marijuana use anywhere near what it is for those two "socially" accepted DRUGS. And I won't even get into food chemistry and its negative consequences, but it takes me to this comment.
You will gain weight - huh? This is a ridiculous statement and completely unfounded.
Marijuana should not be used by some people, this is a well known fact. Adolescents/teens should not use it, especially given today's strength. There are always risk factors when taking any drug including many OTC drugs which I assume everyone here has used one time or another. Even food can be addictive, which IMO, suggests an addictive personality.
I'll take a good, clean strain of marijuana over doxepin anyday for sleep, are you kidding me.
Some people swear by CBD's which haver a much lower level of THC. While it's certainly no cure-all, it has been shown to be effective for pain relief, mild depression, insomnia. and especially epilepsy. There is still more research that needs to be done to pinpoint its effectiveness.
Some of the comments here are reminiscent of the movie below; IOW old and outdated. Part of the problem is that marijuana has been stigmatised for generations. Of course, there are downsides to marijuana use for some people, as with most things in life.
I had so much fun with this "scientific" post!!!
--"it slows brain receptors" - there is no such physiological actions like "slowing" receptors. There are agonists, antagonists, patial agonist, inverse......... and so on.
--"It also amps up dopamine" - marijuana has nothing to do with dopamine. It acts on two receptors: CB1 and CB2. The location of those receptors in brain modulates the response. For example, disruption of short-term memory in marijuana users explained by abandance of CB1 receptors in hippocampus.
--"It can also act as hallucinogen" - marihuana is not a hallucinigen. Having hallucinations with marihuana use called PSYCHOSIS.
-- "Marijuana is a depressant drug", and then "There is no scientific evidence that marijuana causes depression with everyday use over time". just read what you wrote.
--"You will gain weight - huh?" - marijuana is effective in treatment of cachexia in cancer patients.
That's enought. I don't like to write long posts.
Maybe it's your level of English as far as understanding what I wrote considering your response, but you're right, long posts can be tiresome. That you would suggest doxpin over marijuana tells me all I need to know. Watch the movie, I think you're in it.
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Worth noting that if I am not mistaken Orchid lives for over 10 years in the United States and works in the medical field as a doctor/nurse in a hospitable. I suspect she knows a bit more about this area than we do.
The comment regarding how marijuana effects different people is very true. I have twice tried it, and it had no effect. Perhaps my receptors, is there a BS one?
As an aside I took years ago a young lady from Ukraine, to one of the better known coffee shops (The Bulldog) in Amsterdam. Warning her that there would be allot of American kids being stupid. Instead it was a large group of young professionals from Moscow, They all spent a pleasant afternoon chilling and I had some Vitamin H.
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Has anyone tried Magic Mushrooms?? :laugh: :laugh:
Used to make mushroom tea many years ago.. it makes all your problems just disappear in fact even if you was going to die within a few days you would find it funny :laugh: :laugh:
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Has anyone tried Magic Mushrooms?? :laugh: :laugh:
Used to make mushroom tea many years ago.. it makes all your problems just disappear in fact even if you was going to die within a few days you would find it funny :laugh: :laugh:
Once, just once! Well, accurately, several times over one rather scary weekend! The events of the weekend were scary enough but it was the flashback a few weeks later that persuaded me that this was an experiment not to be repeated.
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Has anyone tried Magic Mushrooms?? :laugh: :laugh:
Used to make mushroom tea many years ago.. it makes all your problems just disappear in fact even if you was going to die within a few days you would find it funny :laugh: :laugh:
As a teenager during my time in Canada. I could swear I saw Nessy in Lake Ontario!! :biggrin:
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What I have noticed that many heavy marijuana users seem to lack motivation. They seem to be happy with everything the way it is so there does not seem to be any reason to make anything in life better. I have noticed that heavy uses do not seem to see a depending disaster in the making and do not respond until afterwards. They often seem to over estimate their abilities. The biggest single thing is they do not seem to see how the marijuana is effecting there lives and read lot of pro marijuana propaganda to convince themselves it is not hurting them. Remember just like cigarettes, marijuana is sold and promoted by people who have a financial interest in getting other people to buy it. Ie ... fake studies, and fake medical reports that users use to justified their use.
Also all the negative health side effects that smokers have come with smoking marijuana.
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Like any substance, over use/abuse is always going to be harmful. I do however genuinely believe that cannabis/THC and its positive uses has been buried and criminalised by big Pharm because of the many ways it could diminish their profits. There's plenty out there to back that up and a great watch on Netflix I seem to recall.
There's an Austrian bloke who's a good friend of mine and he's lived in Scotland for many years, a live off the land type. Shooting, fishing and growing his own food. Him and his wife bought a B&B and moved out to a remote Scottish island to start a new adventure a few years back and within 6 months he was making regular trips to a Glasgow cancer specialist. Towards the end, they could only offer after care i.e. how his wife was going to deal with him being dead.
He started taking under the counter THC type product and at his next scan months later where they were expecting him to be nearing the end, the specialists were left scratching their heads. The large cell masses had reduced and the smaller ones disappeared. He's still going strong today and the specialists told him to just keep doing what he's doing. He calls it his little miracle but I think there's something more in it.
I've also got a good kiwi mate who smokes bangers (weed) for breakfast. He runs 4 different businesses, is up at 5.30am every morning, he's got 4 kids and loves a beer in the evening. I wouldn't call him lazy or unmotivated. I also shared a flat with a bloke at Uni many moons ago who smoked the stuff like its going out of fashion and he'd regularly hit the gym high and do a 2 hour workout....he was unreal.
I'm not saying the stuff's for everyone and I'm not even suggesting its good for you but I think Tex associates unemployed layabouts who are inherently lazy and smoke weed, with the weed itself. I think its all about the individual person and what makes them tick and I know smoking weed wouldn't help me do what I do.
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Has anyone tried Magic Mushrooms?? :laugh: :laugh:
Used to make mushroom tea many years ago.. it makes all your problems just disappear in fact even if you was going to die within a few days you would find it funny :laugh: :laugh:
Once, just once! Well, accurately, several times over one rather scary weekend! The events of the weekend were scary enough but it was the flashback a few weeks later that persuaded me that this was an experiment not to be repeated.
When I was about 18 we had them all summer long.. probably for a couple of years... Don't think I could have a cup of mushroom tea today though.. Its the only drug I ever did really.. Im not into drugs, do not even smoke..
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More as an observation, heavy users do indeed often seem to lack motivation. My son was heavy user and has he easily depressed and lacked direction. I have seen the same in another heavy user.
As a guess there large unknown areas how marijuana effects people and I suspect the effect is not the same for each individual. There are way to many variables.
Like most things money is a driving force and as the US government realizes that is profitable to legalize and tax the use of this substance priorities will change. It will be amusing to see the hypocrisy of some as this force gathers momentum.
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Some users I have known who succeed also use speed. The marijuana helps calm them down. They usually end up with heart attack in there early fifties or something. Otherwise being high and thinking slow does not help ones life out very much.
Most people that want to do this and do not feel an effect just use a type of marijuana with more THC.
One guy I knew who smoked nearly killed himself on energy drinks. Taking one of these 5 hour energy drink every hour or so. It is amazing what people do to themselves. He was having some heart problem and they took a blood test. His caffeine level was off the charts. I lost contact with him after that so I do not know the outcome beyond that.
The underground movie business has a lot of smokers. I used to do video work and that is how I meet him.
I have know a couple of users that were hyper. I suspected they were doing something like this.
Yes there are real medical uses sadly many who get medical permission are just drug users.
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AvHdB, many people self medicate with marijuana so the effects you see might actually be magnified by his mental state in conjunction with the drug.
He probably won't listen, because if he was open he'd already have seen a doctor, but he might be suffering with depression or some other malady that he thinks is improved by use of the stuff. In that regard it is similar to alcohol - often used as a self medication to moderate mood and mental state and that goes nowhere good. Fortunately dope is nowhere near as harmful as booze!
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They all spent a pleasant afternoon chilling and I had some Vitamin H.
What is Vitamin H?
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Has anyone tried Magic Mushrooms?? :laugh: :laugh:
Lewis Carroll. :ROFL:
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Being a cool kid and all, I've tried all the good stuff... maryjane, shrooms, china-white, even tried some crank - I was FLYING!
No, obviously I'm being facetious and have never 'experimented' with mild-altering substances. I'm nutty enough as it stands, I don't need any help. :laugh:
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I'm nutty enough as it stands, I don't need any help. :laugh:
You are a sweetheart.
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I'm nutty enough as it stands, I don't need any help. :laugh:
You are a sweetheart.
Why thank you my dear, you are as well. tiphat
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Maybe it's your level of English as far as understanding what I wrote considering your response, but you're right, long posts can be tiresome. That you would suggest doxpin over marijuana tells me all I need to know. Watch the movie, I think you're in it.
Do dot refer to my English, name of medications, or movies.
It's just a weak attempt to keep a good face on a bad game.
I do not buy it.
Mr. Shakespere is a precious friend to many on this forum.
Even more: he is a friend to many in person.
God gave him everything to live a happy life.
I have guts to say he does not need opioids and marijuana on his agenda.
You just kiss his ass.
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Why thank you my dear, you are as well. tiphat
My Lord,
I hope you will not change your opinion after reading my previous post!!!
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
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My Lord,
I hope you will not change your opinion after reading my previous post!!!
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
:laugh:
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Has anyone tried Magic Mushrooms?? :laugh: :laugh:
Used to make mushroom tea many years ago.. it makes all your problems just disappear in fact even if you was going to die within a few days you would find it funny :laugh: :laugh:
As a teenager during my time in Canada. I could swear I saw Nessy in Lake Ontario!! :biggrin:
It was probably just one of our well rounded women taking a dip. Don't worry, it's a common mistake! ;D
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Has anyone tried Magic Mushrooms?? :laugh: :laugh:
Used to make mushroom tea many years ago.. it makes all your problems just disappear in fact even if you was going to die within a few days you would find it funny :laugh: :laugh:
As a teenager during my time in Canada. I could swear I saw Nessy in Lake Ontario!! :biggrin:
It was probably just one of our well rounded women taking a dip. Don't worry, it's a common mistake! ;D
:ROFL:
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They all spent a pleasant afternoon chilling and I had some Vitamin H.
What is Vitamin H?
Welcome back dear, you have been missed!
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Maybe it's your level of English as far as understanding what I wrote considering your response, but you're right, long posts can be tiresome. That you would suggest doxpin over marijuana tells me all I need to know. Watch the movie, I think you're in it.
Do dot refer to my English, name of medications, or movies.
It's just a weak attempt to keep a good face on a bad game.
I do not buy it.
Mr. Shakespere is a precious friend to many on this forum.
Even more: he is a friend to many in person.
God gave him everything to live a happy life.
I have guts to say he does not need opioids and marijuana on his agenda.
You just kiss his ass.
Do dot? :laugh:
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Maybe it's your level of English as far as understanding what I wrote considering your response, but you're right, long posts can be tiresome. That you would suggest doxpin over marijuana tells me all I need to know. Watch the movie, I think you're in it.
Do dot refer to my English, name of medications, or movies.
It's just a weak attempt to keep a good face on a bad game.
I do not buy it.
Mr. Shakespere is a precious friend to many on this forum.
Even more: he is a friend to many in person.
God gave him everything to live a happy life.
I have guts to say he does not need opioids and marijuana on his agenda.
You just kiss his ass.
Do dot? :laugh:
You are hired as my personal editor.
I am sure you will not miss any typo.
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They all spent a pleasant afternoon chilling and I had some Vitamin H.
What is Vitamin H?
Welcome back dear, you have been missed!
Thank you, Mr. Yankee.
How are you doing?
I am pretty confident that you wife enreached the Congress Library with another book.
You are my favorite couple!
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Has anyone tried Magic Mushrooms?? :laugh: :laugh:
Used to make mushroom tea many years ago.. it makes all your problems just disappear in fact even if you was going to die within a few days you would find it funny :laugh: :laugh:
As a teenager during my time in Canada. I could swear I saw Nessy in Lake Ontario!! :biggrin:
It was probably just one of our well rounded women taking a dip. Don't worry, it's a common mistake! ;D
:ROFL:
This is hilarious!!!
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
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They all spent a pleasant afternoon chilling and I had some Vitamin H.
What is Vitamin H?
Heineken
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They all spent a pleasant afternoon chilling and I had some Vitamin H.
What is Vitamin H?
Heineken
In Scotland we need to take our vitamin T. Tennents lager.
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They all spent a pleasant afternoon chilling and I had some Vitamin H.
What is Vitamin H?
Welcome back dear, you have been missed!
Thank you, Mr. Yankee.
How are you doing?
I am pretty confident that you wife enreached the Congress Library with another book.
You are my favorite couple!
Where is my personal editor to correct errors?
OK, at least... Would you, please, make a cup of coffee for me?
One sugar, no cream, and, please, say nothing about coffee addiction!!!
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They all spent a pleasant afternoon chilling and I had some Vitamin H.
What is Vitamin H?
Welcome back dear, you have been missed!
Thank you, Mr. Yankee.
How are you doing?
I am pretty confident that you wife enreached the Congress Library with another book.
You are my favorite couple!
Where is my personal editor to correct errors?
OK, at least... Would you, please, make a cup of coffee for me?
One sugar, no cream, and, please, say nothing about coffee addiction!!!
I did notice it but I wasn't going to be tacky.
I have conversational skills in a foreign language but certainly not fluent like you are. Spelling errors are only a trifle.
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They all spent a pleasant afternoon chilling and I had some Vitamin H.
What is Vitamin H?
Welcome back dear, you have been missed!
Thank you, Mr. Yankee.
How are you doing?
I am pretty confident that you wife enreached the Congress Library with another book.
You are my favorite couple!
Where is my personal editor to correct errors?
OK, at least... Would you, please, make a cup of coffee for me?
One sugar, no cream, and, please, say nothing about coffee addiction!!!
I did notice it but I wasn't going to be tacky.
I have conversational skills in a foreign language but certainly not fluent like you are. Spelling errors are only a trifle.
What about coffee? :)
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They all spent a pleasant afternoon chilling and I had some Vitamin H.
What is Vitamin H?
Welcome back dear, you have been missed!
Thank you, Mr. Yankee.
How are you doing?
I am pretty confident that you wife enreached the Congress Library with another book.
You are my favorite couple!
Where is my personal editor to correct errors?
OK, at least... Would you, please, make a cup of coffee for me?
One sugar, no cream, and, please, say nothing about coffee addiction!!!
I did notice it but I wasn't going to be tacky.
I have conversational skills in a foreign language but certainly not fluent like you are. Spelling errors are only a trifle.
What about coffee? :)
Of course! With one sugar. :)
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How has no one posted this gem yet?
To me, this is a sailing song ( :travel: ) all the way. It occurs to me that it's really a sailing song for everyone, just a different sort of sailing. :laugh:
Brewer and Shipley - 'One Toke Over The Line'
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Worth noting that if I am not mistaken Orchid lives for over 10 years in the United States and works in the medical field as a doctor/nurse in a hospitable. I suspect she knows a bit more about this area than we do.
The comment regarding how marijuana effects different people is very true. I have twice tried it, and it had no effect. Perhaps my receptors, is there a BS one?
As an aside I took years ago a young lady from Ukraine, to one of the better known coffee shops (The Bulldog) in Amsterdam. Warning her that there would be allot of American kids being stupid. Instead it was a large group of young professionals from Moscow, They all spent a pleasant afternoon chilling and I had some Vitamin H.
Based on what? I have members of my family whom have been nurses, some going on 40 years. They speak English natively and would agree with my/and many others view about cannabis.
I remember going to a doctor years ago and was diagnosed with a duodenal ulcer. It was about the time new research connecting h-pylori to duodenal/peptic ulcers, not to mention the connection these types of ulcers had to one's family medical history. IOW, there was a link to this type of ulcer being hereditary and members of my family suffer/had suffered from it.
As I normally do whenever I visit any medical professional, I do my own due diligence. I read about this and mentioned it to the doctor. He scoffed at my suggestion that an antibiotic treatment can not only treat the ulcer, but completely cure it, according to the research and testing. He prescribed Tagamet and later Zantac to me. Maybe you'd like to read up on the latest news involving those 2 "drugs"?
I took the medication back then for a couple of months and decided to stop. My ulcer had regressed to a point (it was never serious to begin with) that it was manageable without any medication. I'm glad I did considering the latest on the above mention prescription drugs.
American medicine is closely tied to big Pharma. Doctors are not even required to educate themselves on nutrition (:).
Medical malpractice is the 3rd leading cause of death in America behind only heart disease and cancer. So excuse me if I don't follow your logic here or our esteemed expert.
But, for the sake of argument and not to take my word on anything, let's look at these next few videos from "experts' all of whom have better qualifications, IMO, and English than our so-called expert.
The first is from 2014 by Zach Walsh, a PhD, and also an Assistant Professor in the UBC Department of Psychology and Co-Director for the Centre for the Advancement of Psychological Science and Law.
The next one from 2018, is by Dr. Alan Shackelford, a graduate of the University of Heidelberg School of Medicine in Germany who also completed postgraduate medical training at major teaching hospitals of the Harvard Medical School, including a residency in internal medicine and Fellowships in nutritional and behavioral medicine as well as a Harvard Medical School research Fellowship.
The next one is from Mara Gordon 2. Here is part of her bio from the video from last year.
Mara Gordon is the co-founder of Aunt Zelda's™, The Oil Plant, Calla Spring Wellness, and Zelda Therapeutics. She specializes in the development of cannabis treatment protocols for seriously ill patients in California and is dedicated to bringing about change in the healthcare system.
Prior to Aunt Zelda’s, Gordon worked as a process engineer, helping Fortune 500 companies create intelligent software. This experience has enabled her to take a detailed and scientific approach to medical cannabis.
And the last one from 2016, is from one of the "stereotypical" lazy, unmotivated "pot heads" David Schmader, a multi-talented writer, playwright, newspaper columnist, and performance artist.
The videos above aren't some calculated attempt by me to sway the narrative, they're just a few (of hundreds that can easily be found on the internet) that hammer the point.
Advancement in automation, industry, technology, etc. have always face backlash from naysayers. Henry Ford said that "If I asked the people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses", or to all the pundits that said the internet would never take the place of newspapers, teachers, or governments agencies, etc.
I ask anyone to take some time and listen not only to what they say (most are around 10 minutes in duration), but how they changed their attitudes towards cannabis and especially the last one where the speaker chronicles how cannabis has been stigmatised over the last century. It's very revealing and speaks to the attitude of some "fine" people on this forum.
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They all spent a pleasant afternoon chilling and I had some Vitamin H.
What is Vitamin H?
Heineken
In Scotland we need to take our vitamin T. Tennents lager.
This speaks directly to my view on how cannabis has been stigmatised over the last 100 years and how there is still a lot of work to overcome many of these stereotypes.
Vitamin H, really AV? But "evil" weed I'm sure. :)
If I were to break down what alcohol does to the organism vs. cannabis, they'd be no contest which is by far the worst. But, because, as I mentioned before, alcohol is much more socially accepted (that's been changing over the last 25 years though), it's easy to see that many on this board fall in line with society's thinking.
From William Randolph Hearst to Richard Nixon's "war on drugs', it's easy to see how propaganda works, not just for politics but big business.
Here's one last video, kind of a tear jerker, but I'm posting it to show how the guy talks about his, his mother and wife's attitude had change, where as he puts it, "we were forced to because of personal reasons".
People, it's time to move ahead with new advancements and stop depending on outdated medicine and theory.
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I started smoking it as a teen. It was the source of a lot of fun and I continued until I got married and kids. Then, I didn't have the money or time plus the penalties were severe if you got caught with it. I went for many years without smoking weed until 12-14 years ago when I found myself in Amsterdam with some time to kill and went to check out the coffee houses. After smoking some there I found I didn't have as much time as I'd thought and the times had changed and I was definitely an amateur
Since then the laws have been largely relaxed in the US and further cannabis has been discovered to lead in many homeopathic remedies and largely preferred over most all big pharma solutions. I'm waiting on an illness I can use it for relief but as yet haven't had any. Amsterdam taught me that, for me, recreational use is for the professionals. I'll stick to bourbon
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Amsterdam taught me that, for me, recreational use is for the professionals. I'll stick to bourbon
I tried some in Holland too, and I also came away with the same impression. It aint for me, I'll stick to wine.
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Amsterdam taught me that, for me, recreational use is for the professionals. I'll stick to bourbon
I tried some in Holland too, and I also came away with the same impression. It aint for me, I'll stick to wine.
The coffeehouse taught me, know your limits :laugh:
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Based on what?
You are like a loose cannon. All over the place.
I am not going to bother answering.
Dr. Orchid.
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I'm waiting on an illness I can use it for relief but as yet haven't had any.
Amsterdam taught me that, for me, recreational use is for the professionals.
I'll stick to bourbon
Quote of the week.
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Based on what?
You are like a loose cannon. All over the place.
I am not going to bother answering.
Dr. Orchid.
I will 2nd that. You can think what ever you wish. Please note though I did not refer to marijuana as the 'evil weed'.
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It's definitely not for everyone.
However, the point isn't whether or not it's your preference, or whether you like it or not but to take away some of the misconceptions/stigmatism associated with it and to see it as many others do; as an alternative compound (grown naturally from mother earth I might add) with medicinal and mental therapeutic benefits, even for the recreational user.
I haven't even talked about hemp, which was lumped in as another part of the "war" on marijuana from big business, e.g. cotton and textiles.
I mean, look at some of the comments and notice the difference - "evil" weed, potheads (yes, I know said in jest, but truth in humour anyone). Instead beer is referred to as a "vitamin" and saluted. :BEER:
Where are the alcoholics, lushes, winos, and boozehounds remarks? :P BTW, I was out last night at a local Irish pub and knocked back a few pints of Smithwick's with some friends. First time I tried it and must say it's not bad, but a wee bit of a hangover today lads. ;D
Speaking of wine, I can go on about some of its benefits with regard to lowering of "bad" cholesterol, regulating blood sugar levels, and even new studies related to longevity in red wine (resveratrol).
Nevertheless, alcohol is a drug for those keeping score and a highly addictive one to boot. I've seen first hand the negative side of alcohol and it isn't pretty.
I doubt though, I'm going to give a child suffering from epilepsy or another family member suffering from pain, sleep disorders, PTSD, post chemo nausea, etc a shot of whiskey, glass of vino, or heaven forbid a pharmaceutical whose top side effect is suicidal tendencies. :prophead:
21st century realities.
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Based on what?
You are like a loose cannon. All over the place.
I am not going to bother answering.
Dr. Orchid.
. No Av, that was Shakey, you were the potted guy. And thanks for allowing me to think what I what.
I will 2nd that. You can think what ever you wish. Please note though I did not refer to marijuana as the 'evil weed'.
No Av, that was Shakey, you were the pothead guy. Read what is written and then comment.
and Dr. lol. ok.
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Based on what?
You are like a loose cannon. All over the place.
I am not going to bother answering.
Dr. Orchid.
I will 2nd that. You can think what ever you wish. Please note though I did not refer to marijuana as the 'evil weed'.
You see? Proof right there that weed causes paranoia and hallucinations! :laugh:
Just kidding Danchik :)
It isn't for me either. Even back in the 80's when the stuff wasn't so potent it would hit me pretty hard, even after only one or two tokes. And it would make me really hungry, then really tired. I would spend the next couple hours sitting there hoping it would wear off, not what I would call enjoyable. But I can see how it may work as a medical treatment and would be open to trying something like CBD oil which from what I understand doesn't give you a buzz like smoking the stuff does
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lol. Yes, a little problem with the quote function and it was dinner time. I'll blame to on lack of weed. ;D