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How Russians: Get Healthy
« on: June 10, 2009, 08:56:45 AM »
Slavs tend to emphasize healthy lifestyles as do Europeans in general. By that I mean they're more concerned about what goes in their bodies and more attention to things like exercise. A person with limited income might well feel that a gym membership is not a luxury and is willing to give up movies and eating out in order to exercise.

With plentiful public transportation they walk a great deal more than most Westerners. Americans will drive half a block to the market where most Europeans realize that by the time you've backed the car out of the garage one could already be halfway there with a healthy brisk walk.

Eating habits include smaller portions at most meals. Those big gut busting celebrations you've experienced when visiting were for your benefit. You were the guest of honour and the reason for such a meal. That is not a normal meal sequence for everyday living.

Russians/Ukrainians tend to have strong belief systems in what some Westerners might call "alternative" treatments. A combination of old wives remedies mixed with a healthy dose of religion (she doesn't need to be a devout person) is often a frequent prescription for home healing.

Of course there are doctors, hospitals and pharmacies too.


Bee creme for arthritis.


Bees and honey products have a very strong place in Russian natural healing. One popular pharmacy chain in Ukraine features a bee as it's logo.



special tea for sore throats

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Re: How Russian: Get Healthy
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2009, 09:11:59 AM »
Slavs tend to emphasize healthy lifestyles as do Europeans in general. By that I mean they're more concerned about what goes in their bodies and more attention to things like exercise. A person with limited income might well feel that a gym membership is not a luxury and is willing to give up movies and eating out in order to exercise. 

And then the men go and spoil all those benefits by drinking on average 10 ounces per week of hard spirits. 

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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2009, 11:38:21 AM »
So you're not feeling that well. You make your way down the street looking for an Аптека (pharmacy/drugstore) and those are easy to spot.  





The Bee on the car carrying a medical case symbolizes the relationship to Bees/honey/honey products to healing.



Locations vary widely.



Interiors are general clean and most are modern.















Processing orders.







Ready for customer pickup.



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Re: How Russian: Get Healthy
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 11:44:49 AM »
And then the men go and spoil all those benefits by drinking on average 10 ounces per week of hard spirits.  
I guess those who care to have healthy life are not those who drink a lot of hard spirits :-) Never been in Russia though, that is my guess is not based on experience.
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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2009, 12:00:09 PM »
Tea for heart health.


Russians rely on many types of tea to maintain health and treat symptoms.



Rheumatism tea.







Above: not all medical approaches are the same from East to West.







Some pharmacies have an Orthodox priest come in and bless their operation each year. This one is from Kyiv at Christmas time.

Recently I observed a "grand opening" of a neighborhood pharmacy in Moscow with lines out the door of customers waiting for a blessing of a priest. In such a case the patient tells the priest about their ailment and the priest annoints them will a small drop of oil and a prayer.

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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2009, 12:57:27 PM »
Ампициллина (ampicillin) for infections.



Natural remedy from "Doctor Mom" brand.



Home and traditional remedies are common in Russia and the former republics. Banki (банки) are little glass jars that are applied to the back. A match is lit inside in order to burn up the oxygen and create suction. This technique is known as fire cupping in traditional Chinese medicine.

Another home treatment is Gorchichniki (горчичники), mustard plasters applied to the back or the chest. Mustard plasters have been and still are used by Westerners, as well. Doctors often prescribe banki and/or gorchichniki instead of chemical medications or antibiotics when a patient has flu and cold-like symptoms.

Unlike Westerners, Russians commonly believe that viral and bacterial causes of colds and flu can be linked to body temperature with the probability of getting sick, and hot remedies are best best way to recovery. New research however is leading scientists to think that even mild hypothermia inhibits the immune response, in which case Russian traditional beliefs and remedies may be grounded in fact.

Hot tea and drinks like compote are used to ward off pending colds and flu.


Компот (compote) is a very popular drink and is made by most households in Russia.

Ingredients
.5 kilo (half kilo) assorted berries  such as strawberries, red bilberries, blueberries, raspberries, black currant, or a frozen mix. Some cooks add other fruit in addition to berries.
2.5 liters of water
4+ tablespoonfuls of sugar


Method
Bring the water to a boil and then add the sugar and then the berries. When it begins to boil again lower the heat and allow to cook for 20 minutes.

For an extra "zap" of taste try adding Cinnamon, fresh peppermint or Spearmint as the compote is cooling.



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Re: How Russian: Get Healthy
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2009, 03:09:03 PM »
And then the men go and spoil all those benefits by drinking on average 10 ounces per week of hard spirits.  
I guess those who care to have healthy life are not those who drink a lot of hard spirits :-) Never been in Russia though, that is my guess is not based on experience.

yes.,they dont drink hard spirits)))they just drink simple vodka with pepper -before go to sleep, if feeling that could be sick soon (against some viruses ;-)))
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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2009, 05:05:52 PM »
Mendy I notice that all the products in the drugstore that you show are behind glass doors.  Does this mean that if you want to purchase something that you must get a clerk to get the product for you?  It isn't like in the west where you pick the product off the shelf and take it to the cashier?
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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2009, 05:22:01 PM »
Mendy I notice that all the products in the drugstore that you show are behind glass doors.  Does this mean that if you want to purchase something that you must get a clerk to get the product for you?  It isn't like in the west where you pick the product off the shelf and take it to the cashier?

They look like the drug stores in Romania, and the clerk has to get the products for you. In Romania you cannot go to a supermarket or Wal-Mart type store and buy aspirin or any other medications, everything has to be bought at a drug store. You can ask for just a few pills, cough drops, or whatever you need from a package instead of buying the whole package which is pretty cool. Anyway,.. back to all things Russia and Ukraine  :duh:

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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2009, 05:49:07 PM »
WC, in most stores and markets, not just pharmacies, that is common. Obviously not all of course. I've been in pharmacies where some items are one display and can be handled but most medicinal items are behind glass or behind the clerk on shelves. Other stores have nothing to touch, except some informational pamplets, and everything is behind glass.

These shots are from 3 different stores so it's a pretty good representation.

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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2009, 05:50:04 PM »
Anyway,.. back to all things Russia and Ukraine  :duh:

Have you checked the name of the forum? It is called Russian Ukrainian adventures btw  :chuckle:

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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2009, 09:29:46 PM »
It isn't like in the west where you pick the product off the shelf and take it to the cashier?
You mean you candrugs too freely? And I thought that drugs are given mostly by prescriptions on the west. What is this is drugs which are наркотики? They are also freely accessible in drug stores?
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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2009, 09:50:52 PM »
Mendy I notice that all the products in the drugstore that you show are behind glass doors.  Does this mean that if you want to purchase something that you must get a clerk to get the product for you?  It isn't like in the west where you pick the product off the shelf and take it to the cashier?

It could be either way. those pictures that Mendeleyev posted are form old style pharmacies, where normally you'd get only prescription medication.

As you can see on this pictures





You can buy a lot of other stuff. Russian are not used to buying toilet paper or toothbrushes at pharmacies, they buy them at the shops. Pharmacies are for medication mostly.

Here in Au chemist shop will be filled with all sort of stuff and no displays what so ever for prescription medication, all of it is kept at the back and one have to trust pharmacist completely.

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You mean you candrugs too freely? And I thought that drugs are given mostly by prescriptions on the west. What is this is drugs which are наркотики? They are also freely accessible in drug stores?

No, Alenika, they can't. As I said above our apteka are full of make up, tooth brushes, mouth wash etc etc.. it is like any other shop where you can buy prescriptions meds as well, but all of them are not on the display like they are in Russian aptekas 

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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2009, 10:43:31 PM »
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those pictures that Mendeleyev posted are form old style pharmacies, where normally you'd get only prescription medication.


One was from Russia and is mid-older style (10-15 years old) but the other two were new, in Kyiv, and both less than 2 years old. However I understand WO's point as some apteka's now look more like sort of a food market that carries drugs too.

Alenika, as WO explains in the West pharmacies sell everything from toothpaste to candy to photo developing. наркотики (addictive drugs) must have a doctor's perscription and are locked from public view in a pharmacy. The photo below is of inside a Walgreen Pharmacy, very common in North America.


Drugs locked behind counters.

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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2009, 10:55:55 PM »
So you're not feeling that well. You make your way down the street looking for an Аптека (pharmacy/drugstore) and those are easy to spot. 

You have to buy all that you need at the apteka, but make sure to keep your fingers crossed and hope that what you are buying is not counterfeit  :-X
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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2009, 10:58:35 PM »
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those pictures that Mendeleyev posted are form old style pharmacies, where normally you'd get only prescription medication.


One was from Russia and is mid-older style (10-15 years old) but the other two were new, in Kyiv, and both less than 2 years old. However I understand WO's point as some apteka's now look more like sort of a food market that carries drugs too.



I was talking about the style, not a building itself.  here we have pharmacies that are cojoined with medical centres as well not only shops. There can be a GP and dentist, something like that. You can find optometrist in Russia only in the hospitals, here at the shopping centers.

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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2009, 11:16:55 PM »
It isn't like in the west where you pick the product off the shelf and take it to the cashier?
You mean you candrugs too freely? And I thought that drugs are given mostly by prescriptions on the west. What is this is drugs which are наркотики? They are also freely accessible in drug stores?

Alenika most drugstores in the west have non prescription drugs (aspirin etc) that can handled by the customer and of course other non drug products like shampoo, candy etc can be handled by customers.  All prescription drugs are behind the druggist's counter and the customer must have a doctor's prescription to get the drugs.
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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2009, 01:18:38 AM »
We also have shampoos, toothbrashes in drug stores now, and also some things for kids - like dummies for babies. They are usually of high quality and with medical effects too. These things are reachable for customers to take, but still people only look and if need someone then ask drugstore-woman to take something they want. Sometimes these products are behind close glass sheets, sometimes behind glass sheets which can be opened.

But the main part of drugstores is medications. Actually drugstore is considered a serious place here. Not like hospital of course, but somewhat similar. One also can get consultation on medications there in most drugstores as they have medical specialists working there. Qualification can depend on the drugstore though.
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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2009, 08:00:10 AM »
Actually drugstore is considered a serious place here. Not like hospital of course, but somewhat similar. One also can get consultation on medications there in most drugstores as they have medical specialists working there.

The same is true in Canada, the only difference is that the drugstore can be located within a large business: I have drugstores in my grocery store, drugstores in the Walmart, drugstores that are drugstores but sell everything from soap to plasma televisions. Nonetheless, each pharmacy will have a trained pharmacist on location and specialists will be filling out the prescriptions. They are very knowledgeable and you can ask them questions about the prescription medication you are taking as well as ask them questions about the over the counter medications you can buy. The main difference is that in Canada you cannot get medications without a prescription and this includes, for example, birth control pills. In Russia, from what I have seen, you can buy pretty much any medication without a prescription. 
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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2009, 10:07:38 AM »
Misha's point about counterfeits is well placed. All sorts of things from batteries to camera film can be counterfeited but of course medicines are much more serious of an issue than a fake battery.

There was a Discovery Channel special some time ago where an undercover operation exposed a New York firm which processed used automotive fluids and treated them with a chemical to make them clear in colour after which barrels of the stuff was shipped to Russia labeled and sold as "Vodka."

I've found some things which are supposedly made in the West are fakes. Read the English carefully: film labeled as Koduk is not Kodak or labeled as Bayir is not Bayer, for example.

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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2009, 11:59:54 AM »
приоритетные национальные проекты
 

For those of you interested there is a government website which sets out President Medvedev's national prorities for health projects here: http://www.rost.ru/main/sovet/sovet.shtml

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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2009, 12:00:04 PM »
In Russia, from what I have seen, you can buy pretty much any medication without a prescription. 

I think that's true for non-opiate based medicine.  I'm pretty sure you need a doctor prescription to buy any serious pain pill.  But pills for cholesterol or blood pressure, no doctor script is required. 

Depending on the store and the lot number or shipment, there is as much as a 50% chance the medicine you will be buying is counterfeit.
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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2009, 12:16:07 PM »
 A nice thing about those Apteka's   :reading: is that you can buy one pill at a time too. So if you want some T'3's you can just ask for how many you want :-*
A sex tourist told me they also sell Viagra that way, makes sense if the Rx is expensive selling them individually is more in line with keeping on budget.

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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2009, 03:54:08 PM »
I and my colleagues have a medical insurance. If we are ill to us the insurance company brings medicines.
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Re: How Russians: Get Healthy
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2009, 04:03:40 PM »
Yes, both pharmacies (some) and doctors do house calls.




 

 

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