The Epstein Files Poll

[2tallbill]

Will we learn anything? You have two votes

AG Pam Bondi Announces a “Truckload” Of Epstein Files
Have Been Delivered to FBI, Now In Hands of Kash Patel
https://100percentfedup.com/ag-pam-bondi-announces-truckload-epstein-files-have/

[Faux Pas]

My vote is "none of the above"

I don't think we will ever get the Epstein files. If by per chnce we do, they'll be so redacted there won't be any useful info publicly gleaned from them. The flight logs is the same info that was released several years ago. Supposedly, there were over 250 victims of child and sexual abuse on that island. Maxwell was the only conviction. Of course we suspect but at the end of the day we don't know who the other perpetrators are. Our government does but they ain't saying. They ain't showing either. This is beginning to be a major sore spot with me about Trump. He said they would be open and transparent. To date, it ain't happening

[Contrarian]

We will never see all of the Epstein files, because the people involved are wealthy and powerful. If someone manages to gain access, it will be called a conspiracy theory. I've read rumors that Trump went to an Epstein mansion, I think it was in NYC, and he had a favorite girl there.

I've no doubt that Bill Clinton really did go out to that island numerous times, IIRC it was over 20. Bill Richardson, etc. Getting a politician on video and sound with an underage child or with a woman when he's married and has family is an old Soviet trick. Aka a honeytrap.

This is all speculation, or should we say "allegedly". Best answer is "I don't know" and I am not accusing anyone.

[Manny]

Maxwell was the only conviction.

Convicted of trafficking women/girls to nobody. 

I doubt we will learn anything new. It will all be redacted.

[2tallbill]

My vote is "none of the above"

The hopeful part of me wants to believe team Trump will do as they say, but
this seems unlikely now. They released 200 pages of recycled garbage. Then
Pam Bondi says she was tricked into believing that was everything.

Pam Bondi lied, because she is smart enough to know that they had truckloads
of information and not the crap that they released was just reheated leftover fish
and chips found in the refrigerator from a week ago. 

They needed to do an document dump of ten thousand pages with links to a hundred
thousand more. If that's too big of a job, they could send it to all the organizations
that requested it via FOIA, with the proviso that they published it all and put it online.

 

[2tallbill]

The silly argument is that some big fish couldn't be prosecuted if they released the
information. The truth is that the subjects of prosecution get all the evidence against
them ahead of any trial.

That argument is a joke. I think that the 6th amendment takes care of that.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.


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[Faux Pas]

The hopeful part of me wants to believe team Trump will do as they say, but
this seems unlikely now. They released 200 pages of recycled garbage. Then
Pam Bondi says she was tricked into believing that was everything.

Pam Bondi lied, because she is smart enough to know that they had truckloads
of information and not the crap that they released was just reheated leftover fish
and chips found in the refrigerator from a week ago. 

They needed to do an document dump of ten thousand pages with links to a hundred
thousand more. If that's too big of a job, they could send it to all the organizations
that requested it via FOIA, with the proviso that they published it all and put it online.

 

As hot as Bondi is, that's not why she's the US Attorney General. She's not your average blond. She is smart as a whip. She lied her sweet patootie off. She knew the first release was bullkaka before it was released. There are literally truckloads of Epstein evidence. They paraded these influencers with binder books and touted that as the Epstein files" What a crock of sh!t.

The lawyer in Bondi means she's incapable of telling the truth. But to do so blatantly and right in the face of America and literally shovel crap down our collective throats is insulting. Who does this admin think we are? The ignorant left that put Bidan in office?

I'm not buying the protection of innocent people in the files. It is IMHO exactly the opposite, the guilty elite which may or may not include "The Donald" himself. It certainly includes his elitist connections. If the left wanted to go after Trump this is where they should do it. But one problem, they'll be going after themselves in the process

[Contrarian]

The silly argument is that some big fish couldn't be prosecuted if they released the
information. The truth is that the subjects of prosecution get all the evidence against
them ahead of any trial.

That argument is a joke. I think that the 6th amendment takes care of that.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.


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Big fish cannot be prosecuted?

Sorry you are delusional. When one of the "big fish" is likely Trump himself, it's not happening.

Anyone who has read comments of Alan Derschowitz knows he thinks adult men having sex with underage girls is A okay.

Good luck prosecuting him. 

[Bodine]

There's definitely far more to this than what was released. Epstein's properties were sanitized clean of information, including recording, tapes of activities, etc... It's what Epstein once referred to as 'insurance'.

One report I heard (not sure if true or not), was p. Andrew settled his involvement to a tune of 12 million dollars. To whom, I don't recall.

[2tallbill]

The silly argument is that some big fish couldn't be prosecuted if they released the
information. The truth is that the subjects of prosecution get all the evidence against them ahead of any trial.

That argument is a joke. I think that the 6th amendment takes care of that.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.


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Big fish cannot be prosecuted?

Sorry you are delusional. When one of the "big fish" is likely Trump himself, it's not happening.

Anyone who has read comments of Alan Derschowitz knows he thinks adult men having sex with underage girls is A okay.

Good luck prosecuting him. 

Delusional? You are jumping to conclusions (again). I was explaining an
invalid deep state argument about why they SAY they don't want to
release information. I didn't say anything about Trump.

The Deep State arguments to keep from releasing information is.
1. Releasing the information will alert the subject of an investigation
that they are on to them.
2. Methods and sources: That argument is irrelevant since the information
was gleaned from a previous investigation.

[Contrarian]

The silly argument is that some big fish couldn't be prosecuted if they released the
information. The truth is that the subjects of prosecution get all the evidence against them ahead of any trial.

That argument is a joke. I think that the 6th amendment takes care of that.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.


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Big fish cannot be prosecuted?

Sorry you are delusional. When one of the "big fish" is likely Trump himself, it's not happening.

Anyone who has read comments of Alan Derschowitz knows he thinks adult men having sex with underage girls is A okay.

Good luck prosecuting him. 

Delusional? You are jumping to conclusions (again). I was explaining an
invalid deep state argument about why they SAY they don't want to
release information. I didn't say anything about Trump.

The Deep State arguments to keep from releasing information is.
1. Releasing the information will alert the subject of an investigation
that they are on to them.
2. Methods and sources: That argument is irrelevant since the information
was gleaned from a previous investigation.

No jumping to conclusions.

You are wasting your time with this poll.

[Contrarian]

Maxwell was the only conviction.

Convicted of trafficking women/girls to nobody. 

I doubt we will learn anything new. It will all be redacted.

This. 

[2tallbill]

No jumping to conclusions.

You are wasting your time with this poll.

It's not the first time