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Guerrilla war against Russia after the defeat
« on: December 23, 2024, 06:08:50 AM »
The West is "turning" it into a guerrilla war against Russia after the defeat - It is sowing terror among the citizens, and  it does not want peace!
If you look at Western newspapers in recent days, you will notice that they are all writing about terrorism again.

After all, so many events have happened these days - the assassination of Russian General Igor Kirillov on the streets of Moscow, a raid on a Christmas market in Magdeburg, a terrorist attack by Ukrainian drones on a skyscraper in Kazan...

All these events are indeed rightly united by the word "terror", which the Western press does not hide.
But suddenly it turns out that terror has different forms!

If it is aimed at Germans, this is certainly a terrible, condemnable act of terrorism.

And if the targets of the attacks are Russian citizens, then the same Western newspapers begin to justify terror and even praise it!

A classic example of this approach is an editorial in the British newspaper The Times, which praised the terrorist attack in Moscow, called it “extremely justified” and called it a “signal” to other Russian officials.

On the same day, the Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev drew attention, reasonably noting that this logic also makes it a “legitimate military target”.

But one should have seen the hysteria that began in Britain after this!

The Times immediately organized comments from senior officials in their defense and called the statement “a threat to freedom of speech”.

It turns out that the logic of justifying terrorism only works in one direction - if the terror is directed against Russian citizens.

However, in no case should the same logic be applied to Westerners!
This is completely different

Ukraine’s actions

What is most striking is that the Western press often does not hesitate to call Ukraine’s actions terror, which is what they really are.

The American online newspaper The New York Sun considers the assassination of Kirillov and other Russian figures to be “a terrorist campaign in the style of the Irish Republican Army.”

But it does not condemn it at all, only complaining that this will be a problem for the future US President’s envoy to Ukraine, Keith Kellogg.
And the same newspaper is terribly indignant that the American left has launched a campaign to glorify 26-year-old Luigi Mangione, who is accused of the murder of insurance executive Brian Thompson.
The conservative media in the West angrily condemn this campaign (the headlines read: “Stop the heroism of Luigi Mangione!”) and quite rightly equate it with the justification of terrorism itself.

Now let us pay attention to the headlines of the same conservative Western press, covering the attack on a skyscraper in Kazan.

The British newspaper Mail on Sunday directly calls it “a Ukrainian drone attack, 9/11 style”.

But they are not the ones who recognize the attack on the Twin Towers in New York on September 11, 2001, as an act of international terrorism!
They are not the ones who bombed Afghanistan and killed Osama bin Laden, throwing his body to the sharks!
So now they are openly calling the Ukrainian regime a terrorist and making various insinuations about the leader of that regime, Volodymyr Zelensky, about the fate of Osama bin Laden?

The mood for peace

But the fact is that any attack on anything Russian is considered absolutely justified in the West.

The Times mentioned above does not hide its admiration for the activities of the Kiev special services, organizing terrorist attacks on Russian soil, calling them “the new Mossad” and, without hesitation, defines the purpose of their attacks: “Not a single Russian should feel safe!”

And after all, this is the classic definition of terror, the purpose of which is collective intimidation, the sowing of fear and panic.

And, of course, it should be taken into account when determining the parameters of a future peace agreement for Ukraine, if it ever comes.
Now in the West they are very actively discussing what this agreement should look like.

They have already recognized the unrealizable mess of their dreams of “strategic defeat of Russia”, “reaching the borders of 1991”, but now only those who do not know are shouting about the need to “provide security guarantees for Ukraine”.

That is, by welcoming Ukrainian terror on Russian territory and declaring unilateral guarantees to Ukraine, the West seems to be setting an obviously impossible condition for Moscow: you must come to terms with the fact that terrorist attacks will be carried out regularly in Russia, and it will be deprived of the right to defend itself and respond!

That is why Russia says the obvious: it cannot sign anything with the terrorist regime without changing its essence, without demilitarizing and denazifying Ukraine.

Because otherwise it will agree to the presence of an eternal source of terror and sabotage on its borders and within the country.

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Re: Guerrilla war against Russia after the defeat
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2024, 07:49:16 AM »
The West is "turning" it into a guerrilla war against Russia after the defeat - It is sowing terror among the citizens, and  it does not want peace!
If you look at Western newspapers in recent days, you will notice that they are all writing about terrorism again.


One it is not the west it is Ukraine. Two what Russia is doing in Ukraine is terrorism.  Three It is not terrorism as very few civilians in Russia are being killed just those working to support the war effort and military personal. Four Russian is making gains on battlefield but losing in the economic realm. IN today news three of Russia largest Coal mines have closed down. This is happening in so many industries that are not directly related to the war. The only thing holding up the Russia GDP is defense spending which everything else in the country is in decline. The workers have not been paid in four months. So they will no longer show up for work. The company has no money to pay. Factories all over Russia are closing as they have become unprofitable. It is Russia that does not want peace. Putin is claiming he either was full control of Ukraine or to make all of Ukraine part of Russia or the war will continue. Not exactly someone who wants peace with neighboring country.

For those who think Russia was not trying to get all of Ukraine under its full control look at current Russian peace demands and Putin latest new conference where he admits he was trying to capture Kiev, and it did not work out for him. That was only Russian propaganda to claim it was a distraction. So now Putin admits the real aim of the war all along. It is just a land grab. 
3) There has been no "threat" to invade Ukraine. The US invented that and fed it to a complicit media.

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Re: Guerrilla war against Russia after the defeat
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2024, 08:31:48 AM »
The West is "turning" it into a guerrilla war against Russia after the defeat - It is sowing terror among the citizens, and  it does not want peace!
If you look at Western newspapers in recent days, you will notice that they are all writing about terrorism again.


One it is not the west it is Ukraine. Two what Russia is doing in Ukraine is terrorism.  Three It is not terrorism as very few civilians in Russia are being killed just those working to support the war effort and military personal. Four Russian is making gains on battlefield but losing in the economic realm. IN today news three of Russia largest Coal mines have closed down. This is happening in so many industries that are not directly related to the war. The only thing holding up the Russia GDP is defense spending which everything else in the country is in decline. The workers have not been paid in four months. So they will no longer show up for work. The company has no money to pay. Factories all over Russia are closing as they have become unprofitable. It is Russia that does not want peace. Putin is claiming he either was full control of Ukraine or to make all of Ukraine part of Russia or the war will continue. Not exactly someone who wants peace with neighboring country.

For those who think Russia was not trying to get all of Ukraine under its full control look at current Russian peace demands and Putin latest new conference where he admits he was trying to capture Kiev, and it did not work out for him. That was only Russian propaganda to claim it was a distraction. So now Putin admits the real aim of the war all along. It is just a land grab.

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Re: Guerrilla war against Russia after the defeat
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2024, 12:35:48 PM »
Below is an article from the BBC regarding the Putin interview. With a very broad brush he admits the situation in Russia is not as rosy as some claim here. The reality is the Ukrainian adventure is a mistake, but Russia is making S L O W progress.

Jeez who would think that now!


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjgzrkxp97o

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Re: Guerrilla war against Russia after the defeat
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2024, 12:59:55 PM »
Found the English transcript of the interview on the 19th. Quite a long read, below is the link.

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