The irony is anyone thinking russsia did not have deeper hands in all this from the countries inception.
So what AJ?
Seriously......who really gives a sh!t about Ukraine? It could've stayed that way and the rest of the world would've been avoiding a recession and millions of people would've not been killed, injured or displaced. Yea it's been so worth it......I see happy people everywhere!!
I remember Boris, dementia Joe and the EU taking up Ukraine years ago......well ok recently then.Seriously who gives a shit about Ukraine and why do what we've done only to wreck the status quo?
Ukraine had nothing to do with America, Europe, the EU or NATO but we got involved because fairs fair right........well at least the worlds a better place now right??
I'd rather listen to pockets of Ukrainians rally for western influence unsuccessfully than see Ukraine in the absolute state it is today.....but we've done the right thing eh AJ??
Thats your point,who cares about ukrainians?
Who cares about russians?germans, Estonians ,polish?
Pockets of ukrainians?
If the general.populace dint feel.that way neither the orange revolution,maiden,or the current war would be going on
No.matter what witchcraft you think nato conjures up in the ukrainian people.
Ive been there since the.war broke out, the general populace seemingly feels they are correct in thier actions.
Yes bloody too bad it effects anyone out of ukraine right?
Messy things war and politics.
Too bad putler chpose his path also , he could have let ukraine go,just like independent latvia and estonia.
Yet he choose,wisely or not ,this path of invasion.
I've been hearing for a year how ukraines losing,has no troops left.
But the line has receded towards russia.
Unlike yourself or many here i had fqmily in kherson during occupation,and yes it was occupation.
The stupidity of russian puppet admins is too long to.list.
Thats a russian speaking city,and russian admins and russian military were not welcome.
They dont want russian rule.
They did not want copitulation.
You're right the west doesnt have to support their defense.
But they are,and its no different than political moves for all of history.
Its no better or worse than what russia is doing by invading.
So are ukrainians or pro russiqn ukrainians better for what russia is doing in ukraine ? Are russians better off for the invasion? Is the world?
Thats just as valid of question.
What exactly would have occuried if ukraine was eu or nato which was far away ?
A slightly dimished russia?
Thats a bad thing right? I mean by your thoughts. Then who cares about russians?
Really think most of the western world cares if russia had a slightly diminished presense in eastern europe?
,noone would care including majority of russians.
But lets not point those questions at the one who took direct military action.