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The All-American Bombardier
« on: September 12, 2022, 03:07:32 PM »

Note that these countries represent roughly one-third of the people on earth.

This list makes it seem clear that the United States has been as bellicose as any other country in the history of the world. At least, it seems clear to non-Americans. Less clear are the reasons behind the bellicosity, the reasons that so few Americans realize how bellicose they are, and the reasons that so many Americans believe their country to be peaceable and benign.

Two concrete mechanisms can explain this situation, one animal and one historical, each reinforcing the other. First, Americans have the same hormones as all other homo sapiens. This renders them as intrinsically self-protective and aggressive as any other people. Second, America's geographic isolation has led Americans to be uninterested in the rest of the world, so that their educational system and sources of news have always tended to be insular and parochial, leaving most of them%u2014both the electors and the elected%u2014poorly informed. War is often the result. See Out of the Ashes for some blatant examples of this, or consider Laos.

Laos is a poor, land-locked country halfway around the world from the United States. It has no natural resources of any significance and hardly any people, only six million now and a mere two million during the 1960s. No country on earth could be or could ever have been less of a threat to the United States yet in the 1960s the White House and Pentagon managed to imagine one%u2014a threat so dire and insidious that they had to keep it under wraps. They did not dare to explain it even to Congress, for fear Congress might not have permitted them to deal with it appropriately. They handled it in secret instead. To save America from that threat, an ad hoc air force run by the CIA dropped more explosives on Laos than the official air force dropped on Germany during all of the Second World War. Laotians saw more bombs dropped on them per capita than any other people in the history of the world.

Again, Laotians saw this, Americans did not. This was never on TV, this was done in secret. Most Americans still have no idea of the outrage their country committed.

The occasion for the bombing was a modest civil insurrection by a relatively few poor peasants against the king and kleptocrats who controlled the nation. The United States took the side of the latter and made war against the peasants, not only against those peasants who were fighting but also against those who were not. American planes rained down not just high explosives but also vast numbers of cluster bombs%u2014aerial anti-personnel mines that are directed specifically against non-combatants. Those were (and continue to be) especially effective against children, because many of them do not explode when dropped but do explode when a child picks them up. This stragtegy had the predictable effect: it turned non-combatants into fighters and amplified the civil war. Eventually the American side lost. Needless to say, the United States suffered no ill consequences.

To anyone with a modicum of perspective, it was and remains inconceivable how anyone could have believed Laos to be a threat to the security of the United States, and it is even less conceivable how bombing the country could have been thought to be beneficial. However, Americans naively believe that a free press must be an informative press, so they remain ignorant of the world.

Reality is complex and ambiguous. It is most accurately outlined by knowledgable people willing to test their conclusions in public. In contrast, the reality of the White House and Pentagon is largely defined by employees of secret organizations, employees who are paid to be secretive if not paranoid. Those employees purvey information gleaned from professional previcators%u2014i.e., spies and paid informants. The agents dealing with those spies and informants are likely to know too little of a culture and its language to order dinner in a native restaurant but they will have no problem believing that they can assess the accuracy and completeness of what is told to them and send it out as inside dope. This "information" is no more than glorified rumour but it is then not tested through the public scrutiny of independent experts, people who might actually speak the language of an informant, it is put through a military or quasi-military hierarchy. The people in that hierarchy who analyze the rumours may know even less%u2014they may never have even visited the country%u2014but they will know what their superiors will want to hear and they will want to write policy briefings believed by those on high.

In short, like president like tsar. The more top-secret dossiers that a ruler reads, the less informed and less sensible his decisions will become. If any information about another country is too secret to disclose, it is very likely to be wrong. It was not an accident that presidents and prime ministers and their top-level aides were virtually the only people to "know" about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq or to predict anything positive from Iraq's destruction and occupation.

To see how this process works in the White House%u2014to see how inaccurately American presidents are informed%u2014read For the President's Eyes Only by the Cambridge historian Christopher Andrew. To appreciate more fully the incompetence and outrageousness of the CIA, read Legacy of Ashes by the Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times reporter Tim Winer

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TEXAN do not bother talking crap here........it is very clear who invades, kills people and claim  to be Innocent!

It is the Fcking USA and you are a little person ...............
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Re: The All-American Bombardier
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2022, 03:30:10 PM »
Most of that list was also invaded or bomb by the UK and you seem to love that place.
3) There has been no "threat" to invade Ukraine. The US invented that and fed it to a complicit media.

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Re: The All-American Bombardier
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2022, 03:44:25 PM »
Wiz, What do you expect declare war on the USA and expect the American side to sing Kumbaya and hand out chocolate and flowers.

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The All-American Bombardier no, Weeeez
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2022, 11:48:16 PM »
Wiz, What do you expect declare war on the USA and expect the American side to sing Kumbaya and hand out chocolate and flowers.

Do we wish to examine the USSR?


no, he does not want to stare at anything but the hegemony teet he suckles from.

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Re: The All-American Bombardier
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2022, 02:54:45 AM »
Most of that list was also invaded or bomb by the UK and you seem to love that place.

Obviously your intelligence Ability is well bellow the zero mark so I find it very difficult to have an interesting conversation with you. Making reference to the old History of British Empire makes no sence. Today, for reasons I have already explained before, it makes no sence for me to have any sensible conversation with you.

For your information GB and most other NATO members..... were obligated to help The leader USA, in their war invations because most  of them rely on USA arms supplies.

Personally for your information, I am a British Citizent, and have all the rights like most British Citizens. I have the right to express my opinion about our government and its actions, like everybody else, and I am not stupid like you! Critisizing the actions of our Government is not a problem and I do vote in the elections. Like it or lumb it I am part of the UK Society. As it happens due to my age......it is better to take care of my extented family, instead of going out on the streets.

I just read the Zionist Trolls comments and I would not even bother replying........as they are so clever, err I meant stupid, that have not understood the gist of the posted article.

From now on I will not reply to anybody who is hiding behind a fake Internet name.

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Re: The All-American Bombardier
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2022, 03:00:54 AM »
Wiz, What do you expect declare war on the USA and expect the American side to sing Kumbaya and hand out chocolate and flowers.

Do we wish to examine the USSR?

Who has declared war against the USA?

Obviously lonelynes or too much of a self happy time watching the girls......
drive people like you insane. :snivel:

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