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“Back Door Russian Oil Sales”, Washington is Furious!
« on: August 29, 2022, 08:07:51 PM »
“Back Door Russian Oil Sales”, Washington is Furious.
It Can’t Stop a Prospective Russian-Iranian Oil Swap Deal



The Russian and Iranian economies will mutually benefit by selling discounted resources on the global market while countries like India will accelerate their rise as multipolar Great Powers through the purchase of these exports. Their trilateral axis will continue becoming a force to be reckoned with, especially if the first two coordinate their natural gas activities seeing as how they account for the largest such reserves in the world.

The influential US-led Western Mainstream Media (MSM) outlet Politico expressed extreme frustration on Tuesday at America’s inability to stop a prospective Russian-Iranian oil swap arrangement pending the successful renegotiation of the Joint Comprehensive Plan Of Action (JCPOA) that recent reports indicate might be on the brink of finally being reached. In their piece titled “Russia eyes Iran as sanctions-busting backdoor for oil sales”, they lament how easily “Iran could import Russian crude to its northern Caspian coast and then sell equivalent amounts of crude on Russia’s behalf in Iranian tankers leaving from the Persian Gulf.” This pact would be mutually beneficial and further strengthen the rapidly intensifying strategic partnership between these multipolar Great Powers.

The global systemic transition to multipolarity that unprecedentedly accelerated in light of the latest US-provoked phase of the Ukrainian Conflict that began half a year ago is fundamentally transforming Eurasia. President Putin recently declared that Russia restored its status as a world power, which is an accurate reflection of its role in contemporary International Relations. To explain, the US-led West’s unprecedented sanctions counterproductively crippled the economic-financial basis of America’s declining unipolar hegemony, which coincided with Russia teaming up with India and Iran to forge a third pole of influence in the present bi-multipolar intermediary phase of the above-mentioned systemic transition to more complex multipolarity (“multiplexity”).

Read the article in full here: The Russian and Iranian economies will mutually benefit by selling discounted resources on the global market while countries like India will accelerate their rise as multipolar Great Powers through the purchase of these exports. Their trilateral axis will continue becoming a force to be reckoned with, especially if the first two coordinate their natural gas activities seeing as how they account for the largest such reserves in the world.

The influential US-led Western Mainstream Media (MSM) outlet Politico expressed extreme frustration on Tuesday at America’s inability to stop a prospective Russian-Iranian oil swap arrangement pending the successful renegotiation of the Joint Comprehensive Plan Of Action (JCPOA) that recent reports indicate might be on the brink of finally being reached. In their piece titled “Russia eyes Iran as sanctions-busting backdoor for oil sales”, they lament how easily “Iran could import Russian crude to its northern Caspian coast and then sell equivalent amounts of crude on Russia’s behalf in Iranian tankers leaving from the Persian Gulf.” This pact would be mutually beneficial and further strengthen the rapidly intensifying strategic partnership between these multipolar Great Powers.

The global systemic transition to multipolarity that unprecedentedly accelerated in light of the latest US-provoked phase of the Ukrainian Conflict that began half a year ago is fundamentally transforming Eurasia. President Putin recently declared that Russia restored its status as a world power, which is an accurate reflection of its role in contemporary International Relations. To explain, the US-led West’s unprecedented sanctions counterproductively crippled the economic-financial basis of America’s declining unipolar hegemony, which coincided with Russia teaming up with India and Iran to forge a third pole of influence in the present bi-multipolar intermediary phase of the above-mentioned systemic transition to more complex multipolarity (“multiplexity”).

REad teh full article here:  https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-furious-because-cant-stop-prospective-russian-iranian-oil-swap-deal/5791313

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Re: “Back Door Russian Oil Sales”, Washington is Furious!
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2022, 03:01:51 AM »
Yea but know all these deals net Russia much less money than just selling the oil via pipeline to Europe. Russia has limited capacity to export oil by ship because of limited harbors and nearly all the pipelines go to Europe. The first problem is how to get the oil to Iran India and China. The cost to Russia to export the oil by ship is vastly higher than the cost to Russia to export by pipeline.  Then after it get to Iran the Iranians want to make a profit and have to pay shiping to someplace else. Actually, it is a benefit to the west this happens. It gives the Russian very little money and lowers the price of oil on the world market making the energy prices in the west reasonable. On the other hand, for it to work the NATO countries have to keep the pressure up to make it as difficult as possible. Russia cannot shut the wells in, and they have no place to store the oil. The only thing they can do is sell it no matter how little money it makes. Most of Russian oil is in permafrost and if you shut the well in you ruin the wells. It would cost a great deal to redrill the wells and require capital Russia is not likely to have.

Gas is a different story. Europe is managing to have less need for Russian gas but is still very dependent but also Russia is very dependent on gas sales. The war in Ukraine maybe determined by gas sales to Europe. It is not a for sure outcome.

This piece of propaganda you quite is interesting. First Russia wants to re stablish its role in the world by forcing countries to be part of Russia then it is the USA fault we do not lose influence by not letting that happen.

Russia is having to send 137,000 more troops to Ukraine and many trains loads of more equipment to make up for Nato supplied weapons. The war has stalled, and Russia has not been able to take any more land for weeks. Biden has just signed a 3 billion aid package to Ukraine for more weapons which is the largest package yet. It is finally enough to win the war if they keep it up and do this every three week or so. I am hopeful because we send a 750 million last week. In October Ukraine is supposed to get 20 billion from the land lease which was delayed.

Weapons to Ukraine and sanctions on Russia likely to continues for many years long after the war ends. This will make Russia a slave state to Irain, China and India instead of a world leader.
3) There has been no "threat" to invade Ukraine. The US invented that and fed it to a complicit media.

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Re: “Back Door Russian Oil Sales”, Washington is Furious!
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2022, 03:10:51 AM »
Wiz, babble what you wish but Texan is correct on many points.

Worth noting while Russia tries to integrate poorly trained newbies into the army. Ukraine forces have launched a major counter-offensive to retake the city and region surrounding Kherson.

Being a back door Greek, Wiz, I am confident you can figure out the long term implications.
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2022, 04:18:44 AM »
Avhdb, you might want to pack away your fantasies and take a look at what is actually going on.

The Ukrainian attempt is merely furthering the stated military goals of the Russian operation.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2022, 05:25:42 AM »
Biden has just signed a 3 billion aid package to Ukraine for more weapons which is the largest package yet. It is finally enough to win the war if they keep it up and do this every three week or so. I am hopeful because we send a 750 million last week. In October Ukraine is supposed to get 20 billion from the land lease which was delayed.

I'm glad you're happy whilst the rest of the western world is brought to its knees, financially. Families in wealthy western countries will starve or freeze this winter, inflation through the roof and recessions on the horizon.

Well done Tex.

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2022, 05:33:41 AM »
Don't worry Rosco. That money is not for Ukraine, at least most is not.
This is to replenish US stockpiles, for 'humanitarian' purposes and the money for Ukrainian purposes will be spent over the next eight years or so.

Ever heard of the term 'Indian giving'. That's this.
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Re: “Back Door Russian Oil Sales”, Washington is Furious!
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2022, 06:36:41 AM »
Avhdb, you might want to pack away your fantasies and take a look at what is actually going on.

The Ukrainian attempt is merely furthering the stated military goals of the Russian operation.

Perhaps you need a map and see what Ukraine has regained? Other wise go to ISW.
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Re: “Back Door Russian Oil Sales”, Washington is Furious!
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2022, 08:40:45 AM »
Don't worry Rosco. That money is not for Ukraine, at least most is not.
This is to replenish US stockpiles, for 'humanitarian' purposes and the money for Ukrainian purposes will be spent over the next eight years or so.

Ever heard of the term 'Indian giving'. That's this.

I suspect you're right Andrew but this all news to Tex. He's currently sitting at home in his armchair supporting the cause, wearing cowboy boots, a save Ukraine T shirt and listening to country on the wireless.

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Re: “Back Door Russian Oil Sales”, Washington is Furious!
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2022, 09:55:58 AM »
It is interesting to witness how we get to a point where success and failures in wars are measured by $$ gained and loss. We subliminally cheer advances and triumph when all that really mean is countless human lives are lost every single time.

Yet humanity constantly joust and preach about 'morality' with one another. We pretend to memorialize such historical fateful chapters like the holocaust, etc...yet at the same time seemingly, and at times easily, celebrate body counts as a measure of 'success'.

Strange that.

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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2022, 01:03:39 PM »
Avhdb, you might want to pack away your fantasies and take a look at what is actually going on.

The Ukrainian attempt is merely furthering the stated military goals of the Russian operation.

Perhaps you need a map and see what Ukraine has regained? Other wise go to ISW.

AvHdB, I did. I also can read.

Here's a useful summary for you, written fairly objectively and using 'Ukrainian-biased' references.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/08/ukraine-a-counteroffensive-that-was-destined-to-fail.html#more

Here's a very useful video from early this morning from a guy called Dima, a Belarusian. His channel is called Military Summary.

In essence, the Ukrainian forces tried something; they failed.

All sorts of reasons, but not enough men, a diffuse attack, an attack made across open country, no air support, the timing was wrong - it has been telegraphed for weeks.
All that has happened is that equipment that cannot be replaced has been lost. THe Ukrainian lines are now weakened. As those who have learned a little about how the Russian army operates will know, the next step is for the superior Russian forces will take advantage of the weakened and displaced Ukrainian forces and move forward.

AvHdB, I congratulate you on your support for a dead cause. In some ways, it is commendable - except that you have no dog in the fight, so no cost to you. I try to look at the facts on the ground. I have no side here. I am an interested spectator - no more. Of course, I have an interest in the larger picture, as we all should have.

As that interested spectator with an eye on the larger picture, I ask why the Ukrainian army took this step. Even if this limited but diffuse offensive had succeeded, they have no resources to follow through - so, at best, if there was any success, all that happens in the larger picture is a PR win. There's no more. And, as a human being, that seems to be wrong, nay evil. To knowingly kill one's countrymen to have positive headlines on a few newspapers and captions and soundbites for a news cycle on TV and social media. Is that a good enough reason to kill, as of the report linked, a thousand or more men and condemn a couple of thousand more to broken lives?

If the Ukrainian government will condemn good men to death, then make it for a good reason, make those lives count, make sure they matter.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2022, 01:33:59 PM »
Dima from Military Summary posted a summary of today's operations.

Very interesting stuff.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2022, 02:35:26 PM »
Biden has just signed a 3 billion aid package to Ukraine for more weapons which is the largest package yet. It is finally enough to win the war if they keep it up and do this every three week or so. I am hopeful because we send a 750 million last week. In October Ukraine is supposed to get 20 billion from the land lease which was delayed.

I'm glad you're happy whilst the rest of the western world is brought to its knees, financially. Families in wealthy western countries will starve or freeze this winter, inflation through the roof and recessions on the horizon.

Well done Tex.

A little starving and hunger would be good for you.

Recession was coming any way long before the war. Russia still sell oil, so the war is no longer in packing oil prices only Russia makes less money from sells. Gas to EU countries likely to continue only Russia sells a little less this year.  Next year it will be a lot less. Western nations have a retirement problem which is their biggest problem and war is a minor one. The death of the Russian war machine is no big deal not even to most Russians.
3) There has been no "threat" to invade Ukraine. The US invented that and fed it to a complicit media.

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Re: “Back Door Russian Oil Sales”, Washington is Furious!
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2022, 01:38:48 AM »
Recession was coming any way long before the war.
In the USA maybe, in Europe no recession was in sight until we started to ban Russian oil/gas.

Russia still sell oil, so the war is no longer in packing oil prices only Russia makes less money from sells.
Thats right, they now make the same as they used to make before the war. Ergo, prices have normalized not become 'less' despite what western media likes to parrot.

Gas to EU countries likely to continue only Russia sells a little less this year.  Next year it will be a lot less. Western nations have a retirement problem which is their biggest problem and war is a minor one. The death of the Russian war machine is no big deal not even to most Russians.
Trying to ween Europe off Russian gas is proving to be more difficult than they thought. Electric pricing have gone through the roof so fast, its now cheaper to drive a gasoline-powerd car / mile than an electric one.

1 mile gas-powered is now about $15, whereas electric cars now do $18 /mile (was 5/mile before the war)
Source is paywalled, but I'll let the headline in the URL speak for itself:
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AMSTERDAM - Dealing with the superhigh energy prices, in todays world its often cheaper to drive a gasoline-powered car than an electric one. Because of the huge rise in electricity pricing, the gasoline driver pays less even on expensive highway located pumpstations. Electric drivers who just closed a new electric contract pay more than even the most expensive gasoline stations out there.

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Re: “Back Door Russian Oil Sales”, Washington is Furious!
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2022, 03:50:45 AM »
It is interesting to witness how we get to a point where success and failures in wars are measured by $$ gained and loss. We subliminally cheer advances and triumph when all that really mean is countless human lives are lost every single time.

Yet humanity constantly joust and preach about 'morality' with one another. We pretend to memorialize such historical fateful chapters like the holocaust, etc...yet at the same time seemingly, and at times easily, celebrate body counts as a measure of 'success'.

Strange that.

Well said. My biggest pet hate is hypocrisy and its alive and well in many, in this current climate.

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Re: “Back Door Russian Oil Sales”, Washington is Furious!
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2022, 04:01:09 AM »
Recession was coming any way long before the war.
In the USA maybe, in Europe no recession was in sight until we started to ban Russian oil/gas.

Russia still sell oil, so the war is no longer in packing oil prices only Russia makes less money from sells.
Thats right, they now make the same as they used to make before the war. Ergo, prices have normalized not become 'less' despite what western media likes to parrot.
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Gas to EU countries likely to continue only Russia sells a little less this year.  Next year it will be a lot less. Western nations have a retirement problem which is their biggest problem and war is a minor one. The death of the Russian war machine is no big deal not even to most Russians.
Trying to ween Europe off Russian gas is proving to be more difficult than they thought. Electric pricing have gone through the roof so fast, its now cheaper to drive a gasoline-powerd car / mile than an electric one.

1 mile gas-powered is now about $15, whereas electric cars now do $18 /mile (was 5/mile before the war)
Source is paywalled, but I'll let the headline in the URL speak for itself:
https://www.telegraaf.nl/financieel/2112955662/stekkerrijders-zijn-nu-duurst-uit

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AMSTERDAM - Dealing with the superhigh energy prices, in todays world its often cheaper to drive a gasoline-powered car than an electric one. Because of the huge rise in electricity pricing, the gasoline driver pays less even on expensive highway located pumpstations. Electric drivers who just closed a new electric contract pay more than even the most expensive gasoline stations out there.

(Dutch to English translation by Markje)

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Here's an article from Western MSM, so hopefully, even dups like Tex and WC can believe it. From 2 days ago.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-confounds-the-west-by-recapturing-its-oil-riches-11661781928
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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2022, 04:30:14 AM »
I noticed the the link for the WSJ article had a paywall, so you can see some of the finer points of the article here in this video starting at the 4:45 mark if you're not interested in the rest of the video.

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Re: “Back Door Russian Oil Sales”, Washington is Furious!
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2022, 04:39:37 AM »
A little starving and hunger would be good for you.

Recession was coming any way long before the war. Russia still sell oil, so the war is no longer in packing oil prices only Russia makes less money from sells. Gas to EU countries likely to continue only Russia sells a little less this year.  Next year it will be a lot less. Western nations have a retirement problem which is their biggest problem and war is a minor one. The death of the Russian war machine is no big deal not even to most Russians.

Congratulations on your ignorance Tex.

Recession is indeed cyclical but this is a recession forced upon us, created by our own. It's like a 20 year old deep throating a shot gun and pulling the trigger because hey, we're all going to die one day!! We are being asked to support Ukraine in their war effort, by the elites who run the country, whilst the many suffer, starve, shiver and fight for survival. Businesses closing & unemployment soaring all because we need to support Ukraine fight Russia in a war we helped start.....but the people didn't want.

Many people dont give a toss about Ukraine with most having no real opinion on the war. Ukrainian refugees being ejected from houses not long after being taken in and public support dwindling. The virtue signalling and fake tears soon dry up when the suffering hits our shores yet we get dragged into the shit anyway because our politicians say so. Many of the Ukrainian flags that flew around the UK in March have since been replaced by rainbow flags for pride, its hilarious.

A little starving for the innocent people of the UK isn't a good thing Tex.


 

 

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