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Russia’s Military Campaign in Ukraine
« on: August 16, 2022, 04:22:09 AM »
On the Nature of Russia’s Military Campaign
in Ukraine.
Analysis of Russian Military Strategy



Senior US Marine Corps Officer Expresses Admiration for the ‘Revolutionary’
Way in Which Russia Has Fought Its War in Ukraine

Ordinary people in the West reading and listening to the mainstream media have been presented with a series of narratives regarding the war in Ukraine.  These are the key points upheld by the media:

Apparently, Russia has been losing its war in Ukraine since the first days of the conflict.  The evidence to support this is the fact that Russia apparently failed to conquer Kiev and other northern cities in the first few weeks of the conflict.

During its failed attempt to conquer these cities, Russian troops have committed numerous war crimes due to the artillery and missile attacks that they have launched on civilian infrastructure and residential areas.

To compound matters, Russia’s armed forces have suffered staggering losses, high desertion rates and its generals are a set of bungling fools who could not organise a booze up in a brewery.

Apparently, it is only a matter of time before the evil Russian hordes are pushed back across the border with their tails between their legs due to a combination of Ukrainian bravery and Western weaponry.

The picture that has been presented of the war in Ukraine is completely at odds with the reality of the situation on the ground.  Surprisingly, information that supports this assertion, which totally undermines the Western media narratives regarding the war, is provided by an article in the August edition of the United States Marine Corps Gazette.

Writing under under the pen name Marinus, a senior marine corps officer, provides an objective analysis of Russian military strategy since late February. It totally undermines the narratives provided by Western media and pro-Washington politicians.

Marinus observes how Russia has pursued three distinct military campaigns since the beginning of the war in late February 2022. In the north fast moving Russian troops never attempted to capture cities such Kiev or Kharkov, they never made any attempt to convert temporary occupation into permanent possession. Their whole purpose was to act as a ‘grand deception’ which led the Kiev government to divert large forces from its main field army in the Donbass. This gave the Russian army the time to deploy its artillery units in large numbers into the Donbass, secure transport networks and accumulate large quantities of ammunition for the long campaign ahead.

In the southern campaign Russian armed forces ‘took immediate possession of comparable cities’. This was accompanied by a thoroughgoing political transformation whereby Russian civil servants took control of local government and Ukrainian banks and cell phone providers were replaced with Russian ones. Alongside this, Russian forces conducted raids in the vicinity of the city of Mikolaiv. These raids as in the ones around the northern cities forced the Ukrainian military to send forces to defend Mikolaiv and Odessa that otherwise could have been sent to the main theatre of operations in the Donbass.

Marinus emphasised how these Russian raids in both the north and south of Ukraine avoided heavy bombardments of civilian areas which directly contradicts the propaganda of the Western media about Russian attacks on civilian areas. He notes that this attempt to avoid bombardments of civilians areas in the north ‘stemmed from a desire to avoid antagonizing the local people’ who supported the Kiev government. Marinus states that in the south Russian forces attempted to preserving the lives and property of communities who identified as ‘’Russian’’.

He observes how the Russian use of guided missile strikes ‘created a number of moral effects favourable to the Russian war effort’. Marinus emphasises how Russian guided missile strikes went out of their way to avoid collateral damage i.e. civilian casualties by their judicious use of military targets and the precision of the missiles. He does note that occasionally Russia strikes on ‘dual use facilities’ such as the main TV tower in Kiev did undermine the ‘advantages achieved by the overall Russian policy of limiting missile strikes to obvious military targets’.

In the east of Ukraine in the Donbass region Russian forces conducted bombardments ‘that, in terms of both duration and intensity, rivalled those of the great artillery contests of the world wars of the twentieth century’. Made possible by short supply lines these heavy bombardments in the Donbass served three purposes. Firstly, they pinned down Ukrainian infantry in their fortifications. Secondly,  they inflicted a large number of casualties both physical and psychological. The psychological effect has led many Ukrainian units either to retreat and abandon their positions or refuse orders to attack. Thirdly, when conducted for a sufficient period of time these bombardments have forced defenders to with draw from their trecnhes or surrender.

Marinus compares the scale of the Russian bombardment in the Donbass by comparing the struggle for the town of Popasna (18 March to 7 May 2022) to battle of Iwo Jima (19 February to 26 March 1945). At Iwo Jima US marines fought a ferocious battle to capture eight square miles of fortified ground. In Popasna Russian gunners bombarded the Ukrainian infantry in their trenches for eight weeks before they withdrew after suffering heavy casualties.

Russia’s offensive operations in the east of Ukraine have been criticised by many, both pro Ukrainian and pro Russian as slow and ponderous.  Marinus contrasts Russian operations in the Donbass with the war on the Eastern Front during World War 2 where both German and Russian forces made extensive use of cauldrons where enemy forces were encircled and then destroyed or forced to surrender. He observes that:

“Freedom from the desire to create cauldrons as quickly as possible relieved the Russians fighting in Eastern Ukraine from the need to hold any particular piece of ground. Thus, when faced with a determined Ukrainian attack, the Russian often withdrew their tank and infantry units from the contested terrain. In this way, they both reduced danger to their own troops and created situations, however brief, in which the Ukrainian attackers faced Russian shells and rockets without the benefit of shelter.’’

This point also counters all the triumphant Western propaganda which proclaims major defeats for Russia when Ukraine forces win minor tactical victories and Russia withdraws troops from a position. The Russian withdrawal from Snake Island being a good case in point.

In the final section of his article Marinus emphasis the stark contrast between the different types of warfare waged by Russian forces in different parts of Ukraine. They all formed part of an overall grand strategy whose primary goal was to destroy Ukrainian forces in the Donbass and free the Peoples Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk from Kiev’s control.

Russia’s three key objectives of the ‘special military operation’ the protection of the DPR/LPR, denazification’ and ‘demilitarization’ of Ukraine required ‘the infliction of heavy loses on Ukrainian formations fighting in the Donbass’. Marinus is at pains to point out that none of these key objectives required Russian forces to occupy parts of Ukraine where the majority of the population identified as Ukrainian and supported the Kiev government. Again, this is a point lost on the so called military analysts of the Western media. However, in the south of Ukraine the Russian campaign served direct political aims which were to incorporate territories inhabited by large numbers of ethnic Russians into the ‘’Russian world’’.

In conclusion this senior marine officer declares that Russia’s military campaign owes much to traditional Soviet models of warfare. However, he goes on to express his admiration for the unique nature of the current military campaign being fought by Russian forces in Ukraine:

“At the same time, the programme of missile strikes exploited a capability that was nothing short of revolutionary. Whether new or old, however, these component efforts were conducted in such a way that demonstrated profound appreciation of all three realms in which wars are waged. That is, the Russians rarely forgot that, in addition to being a physical struggle, war is both a mental contest and a moral argument.’’


Dr. Leon Tressell is a regular contributor to Global Research.

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Re: Russia’s Military Campaign in Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2022, 07:07:20 AM »

The picture that has been presented of the war in Ukraine is completely at odds with the reality of the situation on the ground.  Surprisingly, information that supports this assertion, which totally undermines the Western media narratives regarding the war, is provided by an article in the August edition of the United States Marine Corps Gazette.

Writing under under the pen name Marinus, a senior marine corps officer, provides an objective analysis of Russian military strategy since late February. It totally undermines the narratives provided by Western media and pro-Washington politicians.

Marinus observes how Russia has pursued three distinct military campaigns since the beginning of the war in late February 2022. In the north fast moving Russian troops never attempted to capture cities such Kiev or Kharkov, they never made any attempt to convert temporary occupation into permanent possession. Their whole purpose was to act as a ‘grand deception’ which led the Kiev government to divert large forces from its main field army in the Donbass. This gave the Russian army the time to deploy its artillery units in large numbers into the Donbass, secure transport networks and accumulate large quantities of ammunition for the long campaign ahead.

In the southern campaign Russian armed forces ‘took immediate possession of comparable cities’. This was accompanied by a thoroughgoing political transformation whereby Russian civil servants took control of local government and Ukrainian banks and cell phone providers were replaced with Russian ones. Alongside this, Russian forces conducted raids in the vicinity of the city of Mikolaiv. These raids as in the ones around the northern cities forced the Ukrainian military to send forces to defend Mikolaiv and Odessa that otherwise could have been sent to the main theatre of operations in the Donbass.

Marinus emphasised how these Russian raids in both the north and south of Ukraine avoided heavy bombardments of civilian areas which directly contradicts the propaganda of the Western media about Russian attacks on civilian areas. He notes that this attempt to avoid bombardments of civilians areas in the north ‘stemmed from a desire to avoid antagonizing the local people’ who supported the Kiev government. Marinus states that in the south Russian forces attempted to preserving the lives and property of communities who identified as ‘’Russian’’.

He observes how the Russian use of guided missile strikes ‘created a number of moral effects favourable to the Russian war effort’. Marinus emphasises how Russian guided missile strikes went out of their way to avoid collateral damage i.e. civilian casualties by their judicious use of military targets and the precision of the missiles. He does note that occasionally Russia strikes on ‘dual use facilities’ such as the main TV tower in Kiev did undermine the ‘advantages achieved by the overall Russian policy of limiting missile strikes to obvious military targets’.

In the east of Ukraine in the Donbass region Russian forces conducted bombardments ‘that, in terms of both duration and intensity, rivalled those of the great artillery contests of the world wars of the twentieth century’. Made possible by short supply lines these heavy bombardments in the Donbass served three purposes. Firstly, they pinned down Ukrainian infantry in their fortifications. Secondly,  they inflicted a large number of casualties both physical and psychological. The psychological effect has led many Ukrainian units either to retreat and abandon their positions or refuse orders to attack. Thirdly, when conducted for a sufficient period of time these bombardments have forced defenders to with draw from their trecnhes or surrender.

Marinus compares the scale of the Russian bombardment in the Donbass by comparing the struggle for the town of Popasna (18 March to 7 May 2022) to battle of Iwo Jima (19 February to 26 March 1945). At Iwo Jima US marines fought a ferocious battle to capture eight square miles of fortified ground. In Popasna Russian gunners bombarded the Ukrainian infantry in their trenches for eight weeks before they withdrew after suffering heavy casualties.

Russia’s offensive operations in the east of Ukraine have been criticised by many, both pro Ukrainian and pro Russian as slow and ponderous.  Marinus contrasts Russian operations in the Donbass with the war on the Eastern Front during World War 2 where both German and Russian forces made extensive use of cauldrons where enemy forces were encircled and then destroyed or forced to surrender. He observes that:

“Freedom from the desire to create cauldrons as quickly as possible relieved the Russians fighting in Eastern Ukraine from the need to hold any particular piece of ground. Thus, when faced with a determined Ukrainian attack, the Russian often withdrew their tank and infantry units from the contested terrain. In this way, they both reduced danger to their own troops and created situations, however brief, in which the Ukrainian attackers faced Russian shells and rockets without the benefit of shelter.’’

This point also counters all the triumphant Western propaganda which proclaims major defeats for Russia when Ukraine forces win minor tactical victories and Russia withdraws troops from a position. The Russian withdrawal from Snake Island being a good case in point.

In the final section of his article Marinus emphasis the stark contrast between the different types of warfare waged by Russian forces in different parts of Ukraine. They all formed part of an overall grand strategy whose primary goal was to destroy Ukrainian forces in the Donbass and free the Peoples Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk from Kiev’s control.

Russia’s three key objectives of the ‘special military operation’ the protection of the DPR/LPR, denazification’ and ‘demilitarization’ of Ukraine required ‘the infliction of heavy loses on Ukrainian formations fighting in the Donbass’. Marinus is at pains to point out that none of these key objectives required Russian forces to occupy parts of Ukraine where the majority of the population identified as Ukrainian and supported the Kiev government. Again, this is a point lost on the so called military analysts of the Western media. However, in the south of Ukraine the Russian campaign served direct political aims which were to incorporate territories inhabited by large numbers of ethnic Russians into the ‘’Russian world’’.

In conclusion this senior marine officer declares that Russia’s military campaign owes much to traditional Soviet models of warfare. However, he goes on to express his admiration for the unique nature of the current military campaign being fought by Russian forces in Ukraine:

“At the same time, the programme of missile strikes exploited a capability that was nothing short of revolutionary. Whether new or old, however, these component efforts were conducted in such a way that demonstrated profound appreciation of all three realms in which wars are waged. That is, the Russians rarely forgot that, in addition to being a physical struggle, war is both a mental contest and a moral argument.’’


Dr. Leon Tressell is a regular contributor to Global Research.[/left]


Thx for the article  tiphat
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Re: Russia’s Military Campaign in Ukraine
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2022, 09:41:26 AM »
dorbradavid

I guess you learned alot and make you to think ....., like me too!

Unfornately not many Americans have brains on the top floor to read, learn and talk sensible instead of spreading idiotic propaganda.

On the other hand the article is too long for small brains to absorb!

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Re: Russia’s Military Campaign in Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2022, 01:32:02 PM »
The article entire first paragraph is lunacy.

If* you make a military feint  on the north which includes the extent of special forces, armoured vehicles ,logistics,and man power,

All while already having forces deployed and attacking in the east and south.
You don't then pull them out,only to wait weeks to renew your primary eastern focus giving your enemy time to move a shorter distance in country and relocate the exact troops you trid to tie up to another region  in your feint.
I dont give a crap what marine wrote that.


The north may have been a feint,(uklnlikeky considering the scope and crazy lag before renewing aneast offensive)
but it did not allow any increased success in the east than if those forces had been applied there directly instead.
The one thing apparent in this conflict is russia has successfully where they put the most troop and artillery concentrations , and nowhere else.

So you can ramble on about how great their strategy was while results in the ground have been apparent, they took huge loses in the north in men amd equipment  that would have been. O higher in the east and likely much more effective and faster in taking kilometers


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Re: Russia’s Military Campaign in Ukraine
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2022, 08:42:48 AM »

The north may have been a feint,(uklnlikeky considering the scope and crazy lag before renewing aneast offensive)

Ok, the north attempt to grab Kiev was not a feint. It was based on what the senior circle in Russia thought they knew (which includes a unwillingness for subordinates  to speak up - who wants to be fired?) Turned out what they thought they knew was wrong.  tiphat
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Re: Russia’s Military Campaign in Ukraine
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2022, 09:20:46 AM »
The article entire first paragraph is lunacy.

If* you make a military feint  on the north which includes the extent of special forces, armoured vehicles ,logistics,and man power,

All while already having forces deployed and attacking in the east and south.
You don't then pull them out,only to wait weeks to renew your primary eastern focus giving your enemy time to move a shorter distance in country and relocate the exact troops you trid to tie up to another region  in your feint.
I dont give a crap what marine wrote that.


The north may have been a feint,(uklnlikeky considering the scope and crazy lag before renewing aneast offensive)
but it did not allow any increased success in the east than if those forces had been applied there directly instead.
The one thing apparent in this conflict is russia has successfully where they put the most troop and artillery concentrations , and nowhere else.

So you can ramble on about how great their strategy was while results in the ground have been apparent, they took huge loses in the north in men amd equipment  that would have been. O higher in the east and likely much more effective and faster in taking kilometers

AJ

be a mice chap and read the artickle again... A second read aleays helps........

Do you think the Russians don't know anything while in every corner of all UKR towns have their own ex KGB agents......
When I first visited Lvov I noticed some people keeping an eye on me and guess what, when I asked the woman I went to meet...what is going on... she openly told me that these funny faces and people Who I noticed.....keeping an eye on all foreigners and were working for Russia KGB....not Ukraine.  She also told me her sister is also working for KGB and finnaly my taxi driver showed mr his ID Card...when I question him...

Of course everything was for my safety and I guess the woman told everything to her sister... and how many time we had sex...LOL

Are you still Racing?
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Re: Russia’s Military Campaign in Ukraine
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2022, 11:14:21 AM »
Wiz, i read it  ;)
As i stated the first paragraph(not the entire article) was a joke to.me in any military analysis.
Dobradavid seems to agree.

If* the russians have as much intel as you seem to imagine, the north movement would have been effective in either displacing zelensky,or in drawing troops away long enough to make the eastern offensive effective . It did not accomplish either and russia then  waited over a month to start a new eastern.offensive, also if intel.was that good this
would already be over. Its not.
Those things are apparent.

Ukraine is losing.
However its hardly from some brilliant strategic fient on.the north front by russian command.


To me its a silly  premise and so no, i  simply dont buy every opinion  of an article you might agree with.

No biggie.
If interested in my real.thoughts in the northern offensive i feel.its was multifaceted .(as it should be)
I feel russia hoped to gain a stronghold in hostomel, which they initiated, i do thibk the plan was to reinforce that and continue to incircle the city, around the north to west sides which depite denialist here,they absolutely did attempt.but failed big time.
They also had troops on the east side.
Yes indeed they knew this attack would keep ukrainian fotces in Kiev region and aid their southern and eastern offensives.

I dont think they planned to take Kiev,but if it occured great.
I do thibk they hoped for a surgical strike  team to take out zelenski.ive no idea if they attempted  thst, but im sure it was one of many plans that some unit had as an assignment.
I also think the overall plan was to put incredible pressure on the city ,the population and administration to copitulate.
The hope was the population would be less supportive in such dire straights and zelensky admin,  would face pressures from internal and external.to accept neutrality

The encirclent did not happen,the supplies  to Kiev were not cut, their own supplies lines got hammered , the fear they hoped might paralyze the city  did not occur, and it flopped.

But i could be dead wrong.
It maybe looked back on as the most brilliant military move in history.time will tell.



Racing, yes i still race semi-regularly.
But not as much as i'd like,just other activities i also enjoy  ,family time,hiking,fishing,boating, beach, and work etc. Take up a lot of it,althought my wife encourages me to go racing more often as she knows i miss it.
But anywqy  my days in the pro class ,or in team.management of such, are long behind me ;)

I have practice tracks and trails less than a mile or two away which is conveinient.(compared to in the past where driving a significant dustance was required.)

This morning after the kiddo was off to school.i went fishing in the local lake a couple minute walk away where i keep a boat. Beautiful calm  day, 69F, not another soul.on the water, and the bass were biting :)  then i went to a local greek cafe for lunch  lol
Now i'm back to *work* :)

A childhood friend from.my days in greece wrote me yesterday, seems he now lives in ireland (after retiring from his job in califirnia) but he mentiond all.the fun we had in the peloponese as chidren :)

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Russia’s Military Campaign in Ukraine
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2022, 01:55:19 PM »

has anyone been able to read the original article on the marine corps website?