Are the BRICS prepare a surprise for USA and it's friends?

[Wiz]

Earlier I was watching a Greek political program for the latest news from Ukraine etc.

One of the politicians that was taking part in the programe mentioned that Argentina looks to join BRICS, together with China and Iran with Brazil’s support and together with some others, who want to become members of the Brics, soon to start having exersises in Venezuela in the western hemisphere....... close to the hegemon's, USA country. 

If that its true and take place... then Russia will show the Americans that they are not the Hegemon of the whole world..anymore.

I am going to wait and see if that is going to happen..........and see the reaction of USA.

[AvHdB]

  Wiz you are a funny guy.

[Wiz]

Wiz you are a funny guy.

It was not me who posted this article here.....

Russia Sends Military Aircraft to Venezuela

Good morning and continue looking the right side of the board.......enjoy yourself!

[Jonas!]

Earlier I was watching a Greek political program for the latest news from Ukraine etc.

One of the politicians that was taking part in the programe mentioned that Argentina looks to join BRICS, together with China and Iran with Brazil’s support and together with some others, who want to become members of the Brics, soon to start having exersises in Venezuela in the western hemisphere....... close to the hegemon's, USA country. 

If that its true and take place... then Russia will show the Americans that they are not the Hegemon of the whole world..anymore.

I am going to wait and see if that is going to happen..........and see the reaction of USA.

US is hopelessly losing hegemon status to china.    As a nation our ineptitude is catching up with us.   Most other nations are also inept it seems, but China doesn't seem to be. 

Jonas!   

[WestCoast]

Earlier I was watching a Greek political program for the latest news from Ukraine etc.

One of the politicians that was taking part in the programe mentioned that Argentina looks to join BRICS, together with China and Iran with Brazil’s support and together with some others, who want to become members of the Brics, soon to start having exersises in Venezuela in the western hemisphere....... close to the hegemon's, USA country. 

If that its true and take place... then Russia will show the Americans that they are not the Hegemon of the whole world..anymore.

I am going to wait and see if that is going to happen..........and see the reaction of USA.

US is hopelessly losing hegemon status to china.    As a nation our ineptitude is catching up with us.   Most other nations are also inept it seems, but China doesn't seem to be. 

Jonas!

Many economists are saying China's economy is in serious trouble. These are the same economists who are pointing out the many problems with the US economy.

I don't see how these economists can be correct about the problems with the US economy and wrong about the Chinese economy?

[Texan77]

The Russian auto industry falling apart?

The picture is funny. It has Putin using an 1960s style phone, which is about the same date as much as their military hardware.

[2tallbill]

Many economists are saying China's economy is in serious trouble. These are the same economists who are pointing out the many problems with the US economy.

I don't see how these economists can be correct about the problems with the US economy and wrong about the Chinese economy?

FT aka Jonas knows even less about economics than Joe Biden does.
He gets angry when people confront him with facts or theories that
he doesn't understand.

Asking him about world economics is like asking a monkey about time
travel.

[Jonas!]

Many economists are saying China's economy is in serious trouble. These are the same economists who are pointing out the many problems with the US economy.

I don't see how these economists can be correct about the problems with the US economy and wrong about the Chinese economy?

FT aka Jonas knows even less about economics than Joe Biden does.
He gets angry when people confront him with facts or theories that
he doesn't understand.

Asking him about world economics is like asking a monkey about time
travel.

My bitch little bill not addressing any issue of course.  Just trying to assassinate character since he has little else of relevance to add.

Many economists are saying China's economy is in serious trouble. These are the same economists who are pointing out the many problems with the US economy.

I don't see how these economists can be correct about the problems with the US economy and wrong about the Chinese economy?

I've read a bit on both.   In the current moment China is doing the manufacturing and it appears they will continue to do so.  I was checking out the product labels in South America on a recent visit.  Low and behold tons of 'made in China'.   Not much, if any 'made in the USA'.   Over time, more money continues to concentrate in China (As it should) if they continue to do the work.   China seems to be gaining more and more market share relative to the US.  They have a willing work force, ours is lacking.   

Jonas! 

 

[Lon]

I was listening to Peter Zeihan a day or so ago. he is easy to find on utube.
something about China having a net loss of 70 million workers in the next ten years or so.  and a net gain of 120 million seniors requiring government services/benefits. it seems as China will be losing its status as the manufacturer of the world, in his words (my paraphrase)
and let us not mention China's response/actions to covid, that are still on going and getting worse.

so, how is this going to fit into the BRICS plans of world domination and Wiz's hoped for downfall of America?
are all those illegal immigrants going to be running (swimming/boating) to China to save their economy like Jonas is saying/wants is happening/to happen in America?

[Wiz]

I was listening to Peter Zeihan a day or so ago. he is easy to find on utube.
something about China having a net loss of 70 million workers in the next ten years or so.  and a net gain of 120 million seniors requiring government services/benefits. it seems as China will be losing its status as the manufacturer of the world, in his words (my paraphrase)
and let us not mention China's response/actions to covid, that are still on going and getting worse.

so, how is this going to fit into the BRICS plans of world domination and Wiz's hoped for downfall of America?
are all those illegal immigrants going to be running (swimming/boating) to China to save their economy like Jonas is saying/wants is happening/to happen in America?

All the time I have been reading your posts hardly you made one of them worth reading because your job is not to be critical but to spread propaganda and nothing else. Not going to waste my time anymore reading your crap.

Read the title of this thread and not the crap one that brainless Texan has changed to ..... Not a lot to say about him, Texan 77, a person  who appears to never have been with a female on the same bed........that is my impression!

Let the poor Dog to continue barking.... 

Shalom shalom

[Jonas!]

I was listening to Peter Zeihan a day or so ago. he is easy to find on utube.
something about China having a net loss of 70 million workers in the next ten years or so.  and a net gain of 120 million seniors requiring government services/benefits. it seems as China will be losing its status as the manufacturer of the world, in his words (my paraphrase)
and let us not mention China's response/actions to covid, that are still on going and getting worse.

so, how is this going to fit into the BRICS plans of world domination and Wiz's hoped for downfall of America?
are all those illegal immigrants going to be running (swimming/boating) to China to save their economy like Jonas is saying/wants is happening/to happen in America?

I was listening to Peter Zeihan a day or so ago. he is easy to find on utube.
something about China having a net loss of 70 million workers in the next ten years or so.  and a net gain of 120 million seniors requiring government services/benefits. it seems as China will be losing its status as the manufacturer of the world, in his words (my paraphrase)
and let us not mention China's response/actions to covid, that are still on going and getting worse.

so, how is this going to fit into the BRICS plans of world domination and Wiz's hoped for downfall of America?
are all those illegal immigrants going to be running (swimming/boating) to China to save their economy like Jonas is saying/wants is happening/to happen in America?

Although they are still gaining population at the moment, China's population is set to age.   They do have a huge base to begin with 1.4 billion plus.  Save for an unforeseen event, I think they will always have enough people.   China isn't big on immigration; they haven't needed to be.   US is a different story, without the legal and illegal immigration our economy would be much smaller, and our standard of living wouldn't be where it is currently. 

I don't think old Wiz was talking about BRICS plan at 'world domination, that is a mischaracterization.   A counterweight is probably more like it...and a much needed one. 

Back to China, as they gain share in more industries and offshore some of their labor to countries in their region, they seem poised to remain in the top position. 

Jonas! 

[Lon]

I was listening to Peter Zeihan a day or so ago. he is easy to find on utube.
something about China having a net loss of 70 million workers in the next ten years or so.  and a net gain of 120 million seniors requiring government services/benefits. it seems as China will be losing its status as the manufacturer of the world, in his words (my paraphrase)
and let us not mention China's response/actions to covid, that are still on going and getting worse.

so, how is this going to fit into the BRICS plans of world domination and Wiz's hoped for downfall of America?
are all those illegal immigrants going to be running (swimming/boating) to China to save their economy like Jonas is saying/wants is happening/to happen in America?

All the time I have been reading your posts hardly you made one of them worth reading because your job is not to be critical but to spread propaganda and nothing else. Not going to waste my time anymore reading your crap.

Read the title of this thread and not the crap one that brainless Texan has changed to ..... Not a lot to say about him, Texan 77, a person  who appears to never have been with a female on the same bed........that is my impression!

Let the poor Dog to continue barking.... 

Shalom shalom

not sure how you thought that this was a change of subject.  or how you brought Texan77 into what I posted.  it was about BRICS wasn't it?  China is part of BRICS?  maybe the biggest partner of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS
my post being 'crap', perhaps, but I have written repeatedly that you are not an expert on any subject and are so bias as to be ignorable (which I do most of the time).

I was listening to Peter Zeihan a day or so ago. he is easy to find on utube.
something about China having a net loss of 70 million workers in the next ten years or so.  and a net gain of 120 million seniors requiring government services/benefits. it seems as China will be losing its status as the manufacturer of the world, in his words (my paraphrase)
and let us not mention China's response/actions to covid, that are still on going and getting worse.

so, how is this going to fit into the BRICS plans of world domination and Wiz's hoped for downfall of America?
are all those illegal immigrants going to be running (swimming/boating) to China to save their economy like Jonas is saying/wants is happening/to happen in America?

Although they are still gaining population at the moment, China's population is set to age.   They do have a huge base to begin with 1.4 billion plus.  Save for an unforeseen event, I think they will always have enough people.   China isn't big on immigration; they haven't needed to be.   US is a different story, without the legal and illegal immigration our economy would be much smaller, and our standard of living wouldn't be where it is currently. 

I don't think old Wiz was talking about BRICS plan at 'world domination, that is a mischaracterization.   A counterweight is probably more like it...and a much needed one. 

Back to China, as they gain share in more industries and offshore some of their labor to countries in their region, they seem poised to remain in the top position. 

Jonas!

more on China...
China had a single child family policy.  China is finding out that to have economic growth they need a growing population.
so, China instituted a 2 child policy.  and are finding out that it still does not make enough younglings to make economic growth.
and now, China has started their 3 child policy and are hoping for economic growth.  that is going to be sometime in the future (18+years).

and the belt and road initiative China has been doing...
the loans that China made to all those countries all over the world (some 146 per wiki).  started in 2013.  how many of those countries are now not able to pay back those loans because of the world economy shrinkage, from covid and other reasons (way before Feb. 24th).
isn't Sri Lanka part of the China Belt and Road initiative?  how is that working out for the two of them?

so people are still thinking that China is going to be taking over the world or even just be the leading economic power in the world?  people might want to be looking at China to find your new distressed bride   

[Jonas!]

 

more on China...
China had a single child family policy.  China is finding out that to have economic growth they need a growing population.
so, China instituted a 2 child policy.  and are finding out that it still does not make enough younglings to make economic growth.
and now, China has started their 3 child policy and are hoping for economic growth.  that is going to be sometime in the future (18+years).

and the belt and road initiative China has been doing...
the loans that China made to all those countries all over the world (some 146 per wiki).  started in 2013.  how many of those countries are now not able to pay back those loans because of the world economy shrinkage, from covid and other reasons (way before Feb. 24th).
isn't Sri Lanka part of the China Belt and Road initiative?  how is that working out for the two of them?

so people are still thinking that China is going to be taking over the world or even just be the leading economic power in the world?  people might want to be looking at China to find your new distressed bride   

China has little to do with Sri Lanka's problem with debt.  They owe China 6.5 billion out of 51 billion.   Decisions the government made that are turning out badly, but they are mainly suffering from inflation of gas and food. 

I'm pretty sure China's belt and road is just fine, despite US efforts to torpedo it...not unlike Nord Stream 2.    There are going to be problems as is always par for the course.   Despite this, China is the one out there building the infrastructure and challenging the US which isn't able to keep up, so criticism and character assassination is the route they take. 

There are some Chinese brides already available, my close friend married one.   What a disaster that has been.   

Jonas! 

[Lon]

China has little to do with Sri Lanka's problem with debt.  They owe China 6.5 billion out of 51 billion.   Decisions the government made that are turning out badly, but they are mainly suffering from inflation of gas and food. 

I'm pretty sure China's belt and road is just fine, despite US efforts to torpedo it...not unlike Nord Stream 2.    There are going to be problems as is always par for the course.   Despite this, China is the one out there building the infrastructure and challenging the US which isn't able to keep up, so criticism and character assassination is the route they take. 

There are some Chinese brides already available, my close friend married one.   What a disaster that has been.   

Jonas!

China has little to do with Sri Lankas economic crises? isn't that about 12-13% of the debt (your numbers 6.5/51)?  especially with little to none economic benefit for that debt.  I have also read about some of those economic decisions...let's all switch to organic fertilizers and see how that works out (thank you Vandana Shiva).

others that I have been listening to and reading are saying quite the opposite about that B&RI.  and the U.S. torpedoing it?  I am not sure the U.S. had to do anything to help along the possible collapse of the B&RI, China did a good enough job by themselves, with the help of previously mentioned covid.  regardless, the "great and powerful" China should be able to thwart what ever the "declining" U.S. could ever throw at it   

I will not comment about the merits of marrying a Chinese bride, except to remind everyone "all decisions made by the Chinese are for the benefit of China" (not necessarily a criticism)

[Jonas!]

 

China has little to do with Sri Lankas economic crises? isn't that about 12-13% of the debt (your numbers 6.5/51)?  especially with little to none economic benefit for that debt.  I have also read about some of those economic decisions...let's all switch to organic fertilizers and see how that works out (thank you Vandana Shiva).

others that I have been listening to and reading are saying quite the opposite about that B&RI.  and the U.S. torpedoing it?  I am not sure the U.S. had to do anything to help along the possible collapse of the B&RI, China did a good enough job by themselves, with the help of previously mentioned covid.  regardless, the "great and powerful" China should be able to thwart what ever the "declining" U.S. could ever throw at it   

I will not comment about the merits of marrying a Chinese bride, except to remind everyone "all decisions made by the Chinese are for the benefit of China" (not necessarily a criticism)

China is not involved with the Russia/Ukraine/US/West issue which is large part responsible for inflation.   As mentioned in a prior post, a lot of the poor nations of the world are going to be feeling some affects. 
I read that Sri Lanka is going to try to get Russian oil a little cheaper during the tough time. 

I won't be surprised if the US tries a little harder to damage China's reputation as much as they can.  The belt and road helps China's rise, and the US wants China to remain second fiddle.   Yes, currently the US is in mild decline, nevertheless a declining nation can still do a lot of things, so by no means is the US incapable of thwarting China.    China has the manpower, the means of production, and the desire backed up by work ethic.   Currently the US is lacking in all 3, despite our hard-working and unwanted labor force from south of the border 

Jonas!

[WestCoast]

 

China has little to do with Sri Lankas economic crises? isn't that about 12-13% of the debt (your numbers 6.5/51)?  especially with little to none economic benefit for that debt.  I have also read about some of those economic decisions...let's all switch to organic fertilizers and see how that works out (thank you Vandana Shiva).

others that I have been listening to and reading are saying quite the opposite about that B&RI.  and the U.S. torpedoing it?  I am not sure the U.S. had to do anything to help along the possible collapse of the B&RI, China did a good enough job by themselves, with the help of previously mentioned covid.  regardless, the "great and powerful" China should be able to thwart what ever the "declining" U.S. could ever throw at it   

I will not comment about the merits of marrying a Chinese bride, except to remind everyone "all decisions made by the Chinese are for the benefit of China" (not necessarily a criticism)

China is not involved with the Russia/Ukraine/US/West issue which is large part responsible for inflation.   As mentioned in a prior post, a lot of the poor nations of the world are going to be feeling some affects. 
I read that Sri Lanka is going to try to get Russian oil a little cheaper during the tough time. 

I won't be surprised if the US tries a little harder to damage China's reputation as much as they can.  The belt and road helps China's rise, and the US wants China to remain second fiddle.   Yes, currently the US is in mild decline, nevertheless a declining nation can still do a lot of things, so by no means is the US incapable of thwarting China.    China has the manpower, the means of production, and the desire backed up by work ethic.   Currently the US is lacking in all 3, despite our hard-working and unwanted labor force from south of the border 

Jonas!

Jonas to compete against China the US needs people with skills in STEM jobs. I doubt too many illegals from south of the border have a Phd in a STEM field.

[Jonas!]

 

China has little to do with Sri Lankas economic crises? isn't that about 12-13% of the debt (your numbers 6.5/51)?  especially with little to none economic benefit for that debt.  I have also read about some of those economic decisions...let's all switch to organic fertilizers and see how that works out (thank you Vandana Shiva).

others that I have been listening to and reading are saying quite the opposite about that B&RI.  and the U.S. torpedoing it?  I am not sure the U.S. had to do anything to help along the possible collapse of the B&RI, China did a good enough job by themselves, with the help of previously mentioned covid.  regardless, the "great and powerful" China should be able to thwart what ever the "declining" U.S. could ever throw at it   

I will not comment about the merits of marrying a Chinese bride, except to remind everyone "all decisions made by the Chinese are for the benefit of China" (not necessarily a criticism)

China is not involved with the Russia/Ukraine/US/West issue which is large part responsible for inflation.   As mentioned in a prior post, a lot of the poor nations of the world are going to be feeling some affects. 
I read that Sri Lanka is going to try to get Russian oil a little cheaper during the tough time. 

I won't be surprised if the US tries a little harder to damage China's reputation as much as they can.  The belt and road helps China's rise, and the US wants China to remain second fiddle.   Yes, currently the US is in mild decline, nevertheless a declining nation can still do a lot of things, so by no means is the US incapable of thwarting China.    China has the manpower, the means of production, and the desire backed up by work ethic.   Currently the US is lacking in all 3, despite our hard-working and unwanted labor force from south of the border 

Jonas!

Jonas to compete against China the US needs people with skills in STEM jobs. I doubt too many illegals from south of the border have a Phd in a STEM field.

STEM isn't going to get the actual work done, we are in need of labor as well. 

Jonas!

[WestCoast]

 

China has little to do with Sri Lankas economic crises? isn't that about 12-13% of the debt (your numbers 6.5/51)?  especially with little to none economic benefit for that debt.  I have also read about some of those economic decisions...let's all switch to organic fertilizers and see how that works out (thank you Vandana Shiva).

others that I have been listening to and reading are saying quite the opposite about that B&RI.  and the U.S. torpedoing it?  I am not sure the U.S. had to do anything to help along the possible collapse of the B&RI, China did a good enough job by themselves, with the help of previously mentioned covid.  regardless, the "great and powerful" China should be able to thwart what ever the "declining" U.S. could ever throw at it   

I will not comment about the merits of marrying a Chinese bride, except to remind everyone "all decisions made by the Chinese are for the benefit of China" (not necessarily a criticism)

China is not involved with the Russia/Ukraine/US/West issue which is large part responsible for inflation.   As mentioned in a prior post, a lot of the poor nations of the world are going to be feeling some affects. 
I read that Sri Lanka is going to try to get Russian oil a little cheaper during the tough time. 

I won't be surprised if the US tries a little harder to damage China's reputation as much as they can.  The belt and road helps China's rise, and the US wants China to remain second fiddle.   Yes, currently the US is in mild decline, nevertheless a declining nation can still do a lot of things, so by no means is the US incapable of thwarting China.    China has the manpower, the means of production, and the desire backed up by work ethic.   Currently the US is lacking in all 3, despite our hard-working and unwanted labor force from south of the border 

Jonas!

Jonas to compete against China the US needs people with skills in STEM jobs. I doubt too many illegals from south of the border have a Phd in a STEM field.

STEM isn't going to get the actual work done, we are in need of labor as well. 

Jonas!

Maybe a  STEM company will need some labour in their warehouse. However if the company wants to be successful and not attract attention from the government they're going to make sure all their employees are legal.

I'm a partner in a business. When we were allowed to reopen after the Covid shutdown the first thing we had to do was hire about 30 new employees. Our ad had one line in bold lettering saying "Must be legally entitled to work in Canada." Take a look on Craigslist for Vancouver Canada this is a common hiring practice in Vancouver, it's just that most of our illegals are from Asia.

[Jonas!]

Maybe a  STEM company will need some labour in their warehouse. However if the company wants to be successful and not attract attention from the government they're going to make sure all their employees are legal.
 

This isn't true. 
Giant and profitable warehouse close by to me.  The key warehouse guy (Who knows every part on every machine) is illegal.  Everybody knows he is illegal, and nobody cares.   I remember years ago he was going for his citizenship but then divorced his wife and the process ended.  He has a couple young kids here, but he remains illegal.   However he does it, he gets his little weekly paycheck there is no enforcement.   He is an important cog in the success of the company. 

Jonas!   
 

[Texan77]

China's population will half by around 2050. It will have so many aged people that will be such a drag on its economy it is not likely going any place. It is over extended making USA debt look small. Is has so much corruption and government over site its stock market does not perform well or predictability. Its real estate market has begun to crash. Export to USA and EU countries likely to decline going forward.  So where is all this new Chinese growth going to come from?

When the USA does not have enough skill workers, we import them. China and India are a big source of skilled labor that come to the USA. The belief the people from the Americas south of the USA having no skill is also wrong. Many more of them are becoming educated.

The BRICS nations for the most part are more competitors with each other rather than a group that will work together. Unless something big changes not expecting much to happen here in the near term.

[Jonas!]

China's population will half by around 2050. 

You are so far off with this statement.

Jonas! 

[WestCoast]

China's population will half by around 2050. 

You are so far off with this statement.

Jonas!

Texan77 might be overstating it by a few decades but according to the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences  China’s population in 2100 will be 587 million less than half of what it is today. Far too many old people and very few young can drop a country's population quickly.

https://theconversation.com/chinas-population-is-about-to-shrink-for-the-first-time-since-the-great-famine-struck-60-years-ago-heres-what-it-means-for-the-world-176377

[WestCoast]

Maybe a  STEM company will need some labour in their warehouse. However if the company wants to be successful and not attract attention from the government they're going to make sure all their employees are legal.
 

This isn't true. 
Giant and profitable warehouse close by to me.  The key warehouse guy (Who knows every part on every machine) is illegal.  Everybody knows he is illegal, and nobody cares.   I remember years ago he was going for his citizenship but then divorced his wife and the process ended.  He has a couple young kids here, but he remains illegal.   However he does it, he gets his little weekly paycheck there is no enforcement.   He is an important cog in the success of the company. 

Jonas!

I'm sure many of the illegals in southern California would like to know his secret for not being arrested and deported.

[Jonas!]

China's population will half by around 2050. 

You are so far off with this statement.

Jonas!

Texan77 might be overstating it by a few decades but according to the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences  China’s population in 2100 will be 587 million less than half of what it is today. Far too many old people and very few young can drop a country's population quickly.

https://theconversation.com/chinas-population-is-about-to-shrink-for-the-first-time-since-the-great-famine-struck-60-years-ago-heres-what-it-means-for-the-world-176377

it's overstated by 50 years and it is too big an unknown in the year 2100 what will be reality.     For the meantime China's population still is growing (Barely) and they have made adjustments and always have the option to make more.   For the foreseeable future China has no problem with 'low population'.   They are gaining influence, power, and market share...and they probably will continue to do so for a long time. 

Jonas!   

[Jonas!]

Maybe a  STEM company will need some labour in their warehouse. However if the company wants to be successful and not attract attention from the government they're going to make sure all their employees are legal.
 

This isn't true. 
Giant and profitable warehouse close by to me.  The key warehouse guy (Who knows every part on every machine) is illegal.  Everybody knows he is illegal, and nobody cares.   I remember years ago he was going for his citizenship but then divorced his wife and the process ended.  He has a couple young kids here, but he remains illegal.   However he does it, he gets his little weekly paycheck there is no enforcement.   He is an important cog in the success of the company. 

Jonas!

I'm sure many of the illegals in southern California would like to know his secret for not being arrested and deported.

There is no big secret, it is commonplace.  Another business acquaintance (Young idiot) has 4 DUI's (In less than 2 years) and is an illegal.   He makes around 40k a month profit and spends it all.  He is a young idiot, with great business connections.  In his case money talks, lawyers keep him here somehow.  Like I said, no enforcement, this is one guy that should be jailed or deported.  He apparently has no fear of deportation and has a lot to lose. Isolating cases such as this would be a better use of resources than going after the strawberry pickers making low wages and providing a genuine service to themselves and the country.

jonas!