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The US Government’s Plan to Partition Russia
« on: June 27, 2022, 10:31:07 AM »
The US Government’s Plan to Partition Russia....
Into Small States. The Danger of A Broader War



Jens Stoltenberg, Washington’s NATO puppet, says “peace negotiations,” not Russian victory, will end the conflict in Ukraine. So, Stoltenberg is counting on the Kremlin, whose leaders have said they will never again trust the West, to sit down again with the West and again agree to another worthless agreement. Considering the difficulty the Kremlin has in accepting reality, I suppose it is possible.

On the other hand, perhaps someone in the Kremlin has finally read the Wolfowitz Doctrine. If not, maybe someone in the Kremlin has seen the US Government’s Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe’s plan to break Russia up into a collection of independent small states.
See this....DELUSION

How is this to be done? Military conquest? A color revolution based on years of US financed NGOs permissively operating in Russia? Discrediting of Putin and his government?

The CSCE doesn’t say, but it has to be done as there is the need to break up Russia into smaller states for “moral and strategic” reasons.

When people whistling past the graveyard assure themselves that the Ukraine conflict won’t widen and that nuclear war is impossible because countries don’t commit suicide, they ignore the massive role of delusion that operates throughout the West that provides assurance of American hegemony.

Not only is the US going to bust up Russia into small states, but also, according to the US National Security Council, “Zelensky is going to get to determine what victory looks like” and to determine “when the conditions are met to build peace.”

The war has already widened with the US and NATO countries falling under the Kremlin’s designation of combatants for supplying Ukraine with weapons and military intelligence.

The war has been widened to the extent that Lithuania now prevents Russia from supplying Kaliningrad, a part of Russia, and by NATO’s intended expansion into Finland, thus greatly lengthening NATO’s presence on Russia’s borders. People can fool themselves that this is not widening the conflict, but they forget that the conflict originated in the West’s refusal to acknowledge Russia’s legitimate security concerns. Now the West has greatly expanded the area of Russian concern.

My own view, to again state it, is that the combination of Western delusion with Kremlin toleration of provocations and belief in the value of negotiations, such as the 8 years the Kremlin wasted on the Minsk Agreement, the primary cause of Russian casualties today in Ukraine, guarantees war. There can be no other outcome.

If Russia succumbs yet again to trust in negotiation and makes a deal with Ukraine, the deal will not be kept any more than was the Minsk Agreement, the US pledge not to expand NATO to Russia’s borders, and the arms limitation agreements worked out over the decades, all abandoned by Washington.

The only result of a negotiated settlement will be that once again Russia will have given its enemies more time to demonize Russia, prepare more provocations, and beef up their military capability.

As I have said, the only thing that can prevent a wide war is a strong Russian foot that gives the lie to the US Government’s belief, as recently stated by the Department of State, that Russian red lines are merely “bluster.”

The West is so deluded that Russia is not taken seriously. Even tiny, insignificant, Lithuania is not afraid of Russia. Even countries heavily dependent on Russian energy repeatedly stick their fingers into Russia’s eyes. How much more can Russia take? This is a situation very ripe for a big war.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts writes on his blog site, PCR Institute for Political Economy, where this article was originally published. He is a regular contributor to Global Research.

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Re: The US Government’s Plan to Partition Russia
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2022, 11:39:10 AM »
Wiz, I congratulate you on coming up with the best conspiracy theories, you surpass even Anteros/Contrarian. Though I wonder if Russia is so omnipotent what does it have to fear?

For what it is worth only two of the leaders of this on line symposium have some knowledge of Russia.
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Re: The US Government’s Plan to Partition Russia
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2022, 11:42:12 AM »
I'm sure west would like to see Russia broken up so they can isolate smaller parts and leverage relative size and strength to reap resources for less.  I don't see how they will be able to do it through.    Russia and allies are too powerful. 

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The US Government’s Plan to Partition Russia worth a chuckle
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2022, 12:40:32 PM »
The US Government’s Plan to Partition Russia....
Into Small States. The Danger of A Broader War

Wiz, I congratulate you on coming up with the best conspiracy theories, you surpass even Anteros/Contrarian. Though I wonder if Russia is so omnipotent what does it have to fear?

For what it is worth only two of the leaders of this on line symposium have some knowledge of Russia.


yes, he does come up with some good stuff.  he should be writing movie scripts, but only for B movies  ;D

the Mrs. and I had a good chuckle over this one
we decided that it was worthy of Russian or Ukrainian propaganda (it probably is)   :chuckle:

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Re: The US Government's Plan to Partition Russia
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2022, 01:55:25 PM »
Wiz, I congratulate you on coming up with the best conspiracy theories, you surpass even Anteros/Contrarian. Though I wonder if Russia is so omnipotent what does it have to fear?

For what it is worth only two of the leaders of this on line symposium have some knowledge of Russia.

As you must have noticed I read a lot around and when I find some resonable  articles I post them ......here. Unfortunately there are few PROFESSORS OF PROPAGANDA (Brainwashed) WHO LIKE TO SHOW THEIR IGNORANCE......argumentative who want to fill their empty existance.

Dr. Paul Craig Robertsis is a good thinker and knows what it's important or not.

I am happy to tell you that America has lost it's monopoly and Russia financially together with China will destroy your economic hold around the world.

America has asked it's NATO members not to buy Russian Gold....... because the ruble is getting very strong! Be sure that Ukraine will finish soon.... Yelenski will move out to Florida whe he has a villa and many millions stashed there......and Russia will have control in most parts of Ukraine.
Europe is suffering have inflation and high costs of living.....and despite of that Greece and most tourist places are flooded with EU TOURISTS. Soon you may find that American Tourists will not be welcomed in most NATO countries......and the Dollars will be bootom of most currencies .

Finnaly co-operation  between Russia and China.........will destroy the American already failing durrency and economy.

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Re: The US Government’s Plan to Partition Russia
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2022, 04:00:36 PM »
iBelow is some background on what Wiz posts. Do I agree, no, but it is worth considering.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine
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Re: The US Government’s Plan to Partition Russia
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2022, 01:38:00 AM »
iBelow is some background on what Wiz posts. Do I agree, no, but it is worth considering.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

Not surprised to find a jew behind susch nice plans....... Paul_Wolfowitz

"" The second child of Jacob Wolfowitz (b. Warsaw; 1910–1981) and Lillian Dundes, Paul Wolfowitz was born in Brooklyn, New York, into a Polish Jewish immigrant family, and grew up mainly in Ithaca, New York, ""

Reading the article in Wikipedia and his backround it makes an interesting learning read!

Then you get annoyed when I state that the Jews are running the USA Nation and most of it's polices, especialy foreign ones...... Very interesting life......

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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2022, 01:44:29 AM »
Wiz, the gold thing is just stupidity, a symbolic gesture with no meaning. The Russian central bank is not selling gold at the moment - at least not unless you happen to be running a government or central bank. Moreover, it is, in practical terms, almost impossible to buy gold from the west due to existing sanctions.

This is akin to the current plan to try to set a price cap on Russian oil. Another meaningless gesture, except in one important area. The new plan walks back the earlier restriction on obtaining insurance from the London insurance market for tankers carrying Russian oil. This will not make a practical difference but may have been inserted in order to placate the London insurance market which is now under threat from other global insurance centres as a result of current sanctions.
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Re: The US Government’s Plan to Partition Russia
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2022, 03:58:39 AM »
Whether its team sports or geopolitics, if you can weaken your greatest threat in any way, then you can be sure that someone somewhere is being employed to do just that. Wiz's post might just be a conspiracy but I'd bet my house that someone within the US government, holds meetings in private discussing scenarios similar to the above.

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2022, 05:15:42 AM »
Whether its team sports or geopolitics, if you can weaken your greatest threat in any way, then you can be sure that someone somewhere is being employed to do just that. Wiz's post might just be a conspiracy but I'd bet my house that someone within the US government, holds meetings in private discussing scenarios similar to the above.

Oh, I absolutely agree. I know that when I was first studying Russia and visiting over 2 decades ago, a divided Russia was a foreign policy goal of the United States. Current events, with statements from powerful figures in the US administration, make clear that the policy is still in place.
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Re: The US Government’s Plan to Partition Russia
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2022, 06:49:31 AM »

Not surprised to find a jew behind susch nice plans....... Paul_Wolfowitz

"" The second child of Jacob Wolfowitz (b. Warsaw; 1910–1981) and Lillian Dundes, Paul Wolfowitz was born in Brooklyn, New York, into a Polish Jewish immigrant family, and grew up mainly in Ithaca, New York, ""

Reading the article in Wikipedia and his backround it makes an interesting learning read!

Then you get annoyed when I state that the Jews are running the USA Nation and most of it's polices, especialy foreign ones...... Very interesting life......

PS: Tonight the EUromillion Lotto is 150 Million..... wish me luck! :nod: :biggrin:

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WADR, it's much easier to believe that the majority of people around Biden are financially motivated. Just like the people around the Clinton's during the Haiti situation, there's a lot of money being made by the people around Biden (incl. the defense industries) with the current Ukraine situation.  :snivel:
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2022, 08:15:58 AM »
If Russia was to be divided into smaller entities with western/US influence then huge profits would be expected to accrue to those interests. In essence, it would have been a return to the policies implemented by Western/US 'advisors' in Russia during the 1990s.

The policies of the period were about access to and control of Russian resources. But that, in and of itself was an idealogical perspective that served USAian economic interests.

In very simple terms, the ideology was and is that the United States deserves to have control over resources around the world, not just in Russia. That's about exceptionalism.

Ideology and economics are not necessarily unconnected.

If you believe that the exceptional people deserve to control the world's resources that's about ideology, about your beliefs. Of course, this is, by itself evil because it means that the exceptional people dererve to benefit at the expense of the lives and well-being of all the second class people of the world.
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2022, 09:38:26 AM »
I have pointed out many times here that the USA is a CoL City of London PUPPET that the UKs financial agents own control of all of the USA Federal Reserve Regional Banks that own the Federal Reserve.   The USA is a de-facto financial colony of the Crown and United Kingdom via its CoL agents and its British Commonwealth of Financial Colony Nations.

Ironically the British with a Sense of Superiority over the entire world love to bash the USA and USAians here when it is the massive and long-standing UK and Crown investments in the USA that fund the vaunted British Cradle to Grave Social Safety net and transfers the cost of a Global Empire Defense to its USA Mercenaries who are more than happy to impoverish themselves to serve the Crown and its CoL financial agents.

The Russians KNOW this is the global dynamic so no wonder:

Former Russian general reveals Kremlin's first targets in hypothetical World War 3 (Flashpoint Kaliningrad)

Target: London
“We certainly wouldn’t start with Paris, Warsaw or Berlin”, said Gurulyov to the reporters of Russia-1. “The first hit would be London. It's crystal clear that the threat to the world comes from the Anglo-Saxons”.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/former-russian-general-reveals-kremlin-s-first-targets-in-hypothetical-world-war-3/ss-AAYZ9GI?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=6c95109d7c714cc8851a6cb51e2c5094#image=10

Bottom line is that Russian Nukes work and are delivered by the most cutting-edge Hypersonic Missiles in the world and can deliver Nuclear tactical and strategic (a.k.a. Hydrogen Thermo-Nuclear Mega Bombs) at speeds in excess of 7,000MPH.  So go to Google Earth or Maps and Measure the distance from Kaliningrad to London - the amount of time it takes you to Open Google Earth and calculate this distance is the amount of time you have to find and wear your new CCP sourced Manny NBC (Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical) Full Face Masks to allow you and your families to all kiss your arses goodbye.

Third of Global Population Killed in Next War Cycle – Charles Nenner
https://usawatchdog.com/third-of-global-population-killed-in-next-war-cycle-charles-nenner/

700 Million Worldwide Will Die from CV19 Vax by 2028 – Dr. David Martin
https://usawatchdog.com/up-to-700-million-worldwide-will-die-from-cv19-vax-by-2028-dr-david-martin/


All of you radical Socialist Europa sheep are all about to be sheared by your UK Shepards just before they let you all phooking DIE by WEF Vaxx Bioweapons and provoking the Russian Bears into defending their territory with their massive 6,000+ thermonuclear warheads arsenal vs the UK's USA Nuclear Mercenaries mere 1,500 mostly much smaller yield nuclear warheads.

Stalin knew the Europeans/West could not be trusted (25 million Russians War Dead in the Great Patriotic War where we were actually allies against the Nazis and Imperial Japs).

Stalin Built Massive Soviet Deep Underground subways in most modern Soviet now Russian Cities and additional bunker cities for the Russian Elites to enable Russia to Survive a First Strike/Second Strike/Nuclear Winter while the Euro and Uk radical socialists spend most of their time partying on various Electronic Music RAVE Party Drugs stoned while the Russians have been massively upgrading its Nuclear arsenal and delivery systems and survivability resilience.

To be candid the Europa-ians only hope was the superior genius of the German STEM Technology experts who were exported to the USA during operation Paperclip post-WWII so we could prepare for WWIII.  The rest of the Germans have been brainwashed into massive self-hate for their collective WWII crimes and now Europa is clueless about how to defend themselves from Nuclear Attack and the subsequent Nuclear Winter.

Of course, the Freaking Communist Chinese are waiting in the wings to expand their Belts and Roads to absorb what is left of Russia and Europe and reverse colonize them with a billion excess Chinese. They are like the Star Trek Borg - resistance is futile you will be assimilated. At least the USA is about to have a Patriots Political Revolution against the Beijing Biden radical socialist progressives (Euphemism for Communists) and are still protected by two 3,000-mile and 4,000-mile Moats.

I just bought some great European Tawny Ports and a box of Fourth of July massively discounted premium cigar bundle and am ready for the "Aurora Nuclealis" light show from far east of our Atlantic Borders.

I had better stock up on Good Scotch, Port and Cigar Cognacs while I still am able. 

Happy Independence Day!!!

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Re: The US Government’s Plan to Partition Russia
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2022, 10:08:45 AM »
Wiz, the gold thing is just stupidity, a symbolic gesture with no meaning. The Russian central bank is not selling gold at the moment - at least not unless you happen to be running a government or central bank. Moreover, it is, in practical terms, almost impossible to buy gold from the west due to existing sanctions.

This is akin to the current plan to try to set a price cap on Russian oil. Another meaningless gesture, except in one important area. The new plan walks back the earlier restriction on obtaining insurance from the London insurance market for tankers carrying Russian oil. This will not make a practical difference but may have been inserted in order to placate the London insurance market which is now under threat from other global insurance centres as a result of current sanctions.

Andrew must be in a period of voluntary sobriety because his analysis is brilliant here. :thumbsup: :smokin:

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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2022, 10:26:37 AM »
If Russia was to be divided into smaller entities with western/US influence then huge profits would be expected to accrue to those interests. In essence, it would have been a return to the policies implemented by Western/US 'advisors' in Russia during the 1990s.

The policies of the period were about access to and control of Russian resources. But that, in and of itself was an idealogical perspective that served USAian economic interests.

In very simple terms, the ideology was and is that the United States deserves to have control over resources around the world, not just in Russia. That's about exceptionalism.

Ideology and economics are not necessarily unconnected.

If you believe that the exceptional people deserve to control the world's resources that's about ideology, about your beliefs. Of course, this is, by itself evil because it means that the exceptional people dererve to benefit at the expense of the lives and well-being of all the second class people of the world.

If Russia ends up being divided into smaller countries either through a collapse of Russia like what happened to the USSR or through some limited war it's unlikely the US would benefit much.

Probably as soon as the collapse happens China would move in and take over as much of the Russian Far East as it could claim, which considering the extent of China's military would likely be most of the Russian Far East.

Since China is so much closer to the Russian Far East than the US or the EU it would be far easier for China to claim and hold this part of present day Russia.

Many people still refer to China as communist however when it comes to making money the Chinese government and Chinese companies are every bit as capitalistic as any American or EU company.

The riches from the Russian Far East such as oil, gas, minerals, lumber, etc would be impossible to resist for China and they'd grab them before any other foreigners including Americans could arrive and stake a claim.

Another important factor in why China would claim territory in a future fractured Russia is land for its people. With a population of 1.4 billion people China is very, very crowded and the Russian Far East is almost empty. If China invaded Russia and managed to capture the Russian Far East as far west as Krasnoyarsk or Novosibirsk or Omsk the amount of land that would suddenly be available to the Chinese people would be unimaginable.

Any future breakup of Russia would lead to Russians fleeing probably to Europe. As the Chinese military began capturing more and more territory Russian cities, towns and villages would empty and their people would flee westward. Any Russians in the territories captured by the Chinese that weren't useful to the Chinese would probably be sent west to other countries. It's unlikely the Chinese would need the long term expertise of any Russians who stayed behind, after all with 1.4 billion Chinese the Chinese government probably has all the experts they need.
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2022, 10:33:06 AM »
If Russia was to be divided into smaller entities with western/US influence then huge profits would be expected to accrue to those interests. In essence, it would have been a return to the policies implemented by Western/US 'advisors' in Russia during the 1990s.

The policies of the period were about access to and control of Russian resources. But that, in and of itself was an idealogical perspective that served USAian economic interests.

In very simple terms, the ideology was and is that the United States deserves to have control over resources around the world, not just in Russia. That's about exceptionalism.

Ideology and economics are not necessarily unconnected.

If you believe that the exceptional people deserve to control the world's resources that's about ideology, about your beliefs. Of course, this is, by itself evil because it means that the exceptional people dererve to benefit at the expense of the lives and well-being of all the second class people of the world.

Errata - Ask yourselves who controls over 90% of the World's Rare Earths minerals essential for all emerging and rapidly growing STEM technologies - Solar, EVs, MedTech, SpaceX, etc. Therein lies your answer to who your future financial and political masters will be after the great Western Vaxx Bioweapons and Nuclear confrontations die-offs.  Sounds like Communist Freaking Chinese Borgs.

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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2022, 12:37:55 PM »

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