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FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine?
« on: June 05, 2022, 11:38:40 AM »
So I'm curious to know what the "market" is like now for FSUW.  I would really like to try again. But is this even really a thing anymore? Recently I've been writing a lot of FSUW but get very little in the way of response from them.  I'm wondering if this "market" is dead or if I'm doing something wrong or if there is something wrong with my profile or if I'm just using the wrong site.

Also, Ukraine vs Russia.  I'm open to anywhere that I can find the right woman for me but these two countries are at war?  I wouldn't think this should prohibit me from going there to visit but maybe I am wrong?

I would like to go to either Ukraine or Russia this summer even if I don't have a specific woman in an area to visit.  I'm looking forward to being more active on this site and hearing what everyone has to say about this.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine?
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2022, 01:07:42 PM »
I have a feeling that travel to those places is not quite as convenient as the last time you used your passport.
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Re: FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2022, 01:29:15 PM »
The EU is now bristling with Ukrainian refugees all in search of a new life.

It should be no harder than travelling to any EU country or the UK now to meet a Ukrainian woman.
Read a trip report from North Korea >>here<< - Read a trip report from South Korea, China and Hong Kong >>here<<

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Putin often threatens to strike US with nuclear weapons.


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Re: FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2022, 09:56:16 PM »
I think the war is a huge distraction. In Russia they are getting too much anti USA propaganda. I feel if I were looking I might do better with Russian women who are outside of Russia. There is a number of Russia women in Georga who are there because they do not like Putin. Belarus might be a good place. A lot happening there also but maybe worth a try. I have never tried this so maybe someone else has a better idea. Kazakstan has a Russian population on the Russian border where there might be someone of interest.

In Ukraine anybody who wants to leave Ukraine has been given the opportunity to do so, but some just do not have the funds. I feel many Ukrainians feel to stressed for a normal relationship to develop.

3) There has been no "threat" to invade Ukraine. The US invented that and fed it to a complicit media.

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Re: FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2022, 11:11:19 PM »
I almost forgot; Moldovia might be a good place.
3) There has been no "threat" to invade Ukraine. The US invented that and fed it to a complicit media.

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Re: FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine?
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2022, 07:28:50 AM »
The EU is now bristling with Ukrainian refugees all in search of a new life.

It should be no harder than travelling to any EU country or the UK now to meet a Ukrainian woman.

OTOH, yes.

OTOH, should things not work out, the fact that you married a Ukrainian foreign bride "now" could really beat you up in divorce court (at least here in flyover country).  :(
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Re: FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2022, 02:00:04 PM »
I think the war is a huge distraction. In Russia they are getting too much anti USA propaganda. I feel if I were looking I might do better with Russian women who are outside of Russia. There is a number of Russia women in Georga who are there because they do not like Putin. Belarus might be a good place. A lot happening there also but maybe worth a try. I have never tried this so maybe someone else has a better idea. Kazakstan has a Russian population on the Russian border where there might be someone of interest.

In Ukraine anybody who wants to leave Ukraine has been given the opportunity to do so, but some just do not have the funds. I feel many Ukrainians feel to stressed for a normal relationship to develop.

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Re: FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine?
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2022, 03:41:53 AM »
Ward, given your previous experience, do you not think that looking for a woman with a slightly smaller cultural distance might not be a better idea?

It isn't as though the United States is lacking in women who meet even your stringent criteria.

Have you gotten your own life in order yet? Making a serious foray into a long-term relationship without having your own situation sorted out = recipe for disaster.
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Re: FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine?
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2022, 05:43:45 AM »
Have you gotten your own life in order yet? Making a serious foray into a long-term relationship without having your own situation sorted out = recipe for disaster.

I'm not sure that I understand what you are talking about.

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Re: FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine?
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2022, 05:48:59 AM »
Have you gotten your own life in order yet? Making a serious foray into a long-term relationship without having your own situation sorted out = recipe for disaster.

I'm not sure that I understand what you are talking about.

Your life was something of a mess during the period you have previously told us about. Unless you are now sorted and secure in yourself pretty much any relationship is going to have a hard time working well, still less a relationship with large cultural and language differences.
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Desperate women tend to act desperately
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2022, 10:18:32 AM »
The EU is now bristling with Ukrainian refugees all in search of a new life.

It should be no harder than travelling to any EU country or the UK now to meet a Ukrainian woman.

A refugee is in a tumultuous situation and desperate. Desperate women tend to
act desperately and as soon as their situation normalizes, their actions return
to norm. I recommend pursuing a woman who is in a normal situation, not in
need of rescuing. You want to have a woman who wants to be by your side
because that's what she wants and desires rather than she has no other choice.
[Insert Cheap Trick song "I want you to want me" here]

If somebody wants to help these girls by all means donate some kopecks or
do something helpful but keep romance out of it. Date the aid worker, not the
victim.

That's my two kopecks

Bill

FSUW are not for entry level daters. FSUW don't do vague FSUW like a man of action so be a man of action  If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane. There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.
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Re: FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine?
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2022, 10:40:24 AM »
I would like to go to either Ukraine or Russia this summer even if I don't have a specific woman in an area to visit.

I am going to get on the goals bandwagon.

I advise making a list of what you want and what you don't want. Then coming
up with a plan of action.

The two main strategies are to visit one or to visit many.

The advantage of visiting one is that you get to know ONE girl relatively well and
when you finally meet you know something of each other. The disadvantage of that
plan is that it is risky. Things often don't work out and now you are far from home
and it's difficult to reboot on the fly. (I've done it, but it's not as easy as it might seem).

The advantage of visiting many is that you find out if you have chemistry first before
spending a lot of time or energy on a girl. Ask a girl out for coffee and see how it goes.
Once you find a girl who is superior to the others and a good candidate to be the
future Mrs Cleaver, then you pursue her exclusively.

Men can't be indecisive for this strategy to work otherwise they tend to get the kid
in the candy shop syndrome and end up going home with nobody to pursue in the
future. Or worse yet they go back and try to pursue which ever girl was the hottest
wasting a second trip, when she wasn't the best option for long term.

There is a ton more I could say but that is the quick Cliff Notes version.

I would not go to Ukraine at this time. Omsk, Vladivostok, Chișinău or
Kazakhstan are probably better options to find a good girl right now.

FSUW are not for entry level daters. FSUW don't do vague FSUW like a man of action so be a man of action  If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane. There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.
Get an apartment not a hotel. DON'T recycle girls

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FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine? not Vladivostok
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2022, 12:06:57 PM »
I would not go to Ukraine at this time. Omsk, Vladivostok, Chișinău or
Kazakhstan are probably better options to find a good girl right now.

oh, good grief, do not go to Vladivostok.  do not follow my example.  see where it got me    :fighting0025:    :laugh:    :hidechair:

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Re: Desperate women tend to act desperately
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2022, 08:50:21 AM »

A refugee is in a tumultuous situation and desperate. Desperate women tend to
act desperately and as soon as their situation normalizes, their actions return
to norm. I recommend pursuing a woman who is in a normal situation, not in
need of rescuing. You want to have a woman who wants to be by your side
because that's what she wants and desires rather than she has no other choice.
[Insert Cheap Trick song "I want you to want me" here]

If somebody wants to help these girls by all means donate some kopecks or
do something helpful but keep romance out of it. Date the aid worker, not the
victim.

That's my two kopecks

Bill

Ditto. Regardless of the actual situation, initiating a LTR with a Ukrainian women right now reminds me of the old movie where the tenats daughter agrees to marry the evil (Boris Badinoff, etc.) landlord to save her family from being thrown out in the cold.
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FSUW in 2022? Russia or Ukraine? not Vladivostok
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2022, 09:28:47 AM »
I would not go to Ukraine at this time. Omsk, Vladivostok, Chișinău or
Kazakhstan are probably better options to find a good girl right now.

oh, good grief, do not go to Vladivostok.  do not follow my example.  see where it got me    :fighting0025:    :laugh:    :hidechair:

I think you ran smack into the only ax wielding ninja assassin in the region.
What's the odds of somebody else finding another one? Besides I have it on
good authority she is known to make tasty Blini with homemade jam.

NOTE TO NEWBIES: If you see or hear a 5ft tall woman whirling a battle ax
over her head screaming death cries like a wounded Apache warrior, turn and
run the other way as fast as your legs can carry you, don't stop until your cell
phone is using a different tower to connect to the outside world. Don't come
here and complain about it later if you don't, because you've been warned.

One time I was waiting for my Angel Eyes in a cafe, and a very drunk Russian
man decided it was his life long mission to become my best friend. My future
wife arrived and we walked out the door. My future best friend forever decided
he should follow us outside so he could accompany us where we were going.

Angel Eyes turned and barked maybe 5-7 Russian words to him, so  he wisely
turned around and reentered the café, never to be seen again. Then she turned
to me and smiled the sweetest smile. Every Russian woman has an element of
Ninja assassin inside her to steer drunks out of their paths.

FSUW are not for entry level daters. FSUW don't do vague FSUW like a man of action so be a man of action  If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane. There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.
Get an apartment not a hotel. DON'T recycle girls