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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2022, 09:01:32 PM »
Ukrainian in Ukraine
reporting just delivered M777s attacked by drone and artillery


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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2022, 10:04:18 PM »
I watch this guy often. But what likely will happen to the damaged 777 is that they will haul them to a rehab shop interchange a few parts and get some parts from the USA and many of them will be back in action. The weapons are really quite simple. It is what makes them so great for the Ukraine army.
3) There has been no "threat" to invade Ukraine. The US invented that and fed it to a complicit media.

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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2022, 10:25:51 PM »
I watch this guy often. But what likely will happen to the damaged 777 is that they will haul them to a rehab shop interchange a few parts and get some parts from the USA and many of them will be back in action. The weapons are really quite simple. It is what makes them so great for the Ukraine army.

you certainly make it sound very simple...plug and play
and the soldiers?

I worked for company that built parts for the M777.  they are very precisely built weapons, very tight tolerances. the weapons are simple, but are going to require a shop that might be out of country ( not in Ukraine )


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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2022, 06:46:44 AM »
I watch this guy often. But what likely will happen to the damaged 777 is that they will haul them to a rehab shop interchange a few parts and get some parts from the USA and many of them will be back in action. The weapons are really quite simple. It is what makes them so great for the Ukraine army.

Really?  :o
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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2022, 10:15:05 AM »
This vid is already proven to be partially faked.
The drone grenade drop is geo located  at one location .
Then it shows the units pulled into a forest and mortar shelling.
Yet the  large artillery at the end into the forest (where you cant see the m777s)  is geo.located completely another location up near cernihiv and that part of the altered  video was shot prior to Ukraine getting 777s.

 This vid from.a pro Russianrddit/telegram  source even changed the  vids title after the editing was pointed out.

If they had vids if they being destroyed they would show it and not need to edit in old footage

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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #55 on: May 19, 2022, 10:53:22 AM »
This vid is already proven to be partially faked.
The drone grenade drop is geo located  at one location .
Then it shows the units pulled into a forest and mortar shelling.
Yet the  large artillery at the end into the forest (where you cant see the m777s)  is geo.located completely another location up near cernihiv and that part of the altered  video was shot prior to Ukraine getting 777s.

 This vid from.a pro Russianrddit/telegram  source even changed the  vids title after the editing was pointed out.

If they had vids if they being destroyed they would show it and not need to edit in old footage

yes, I see that a lot of people are saying in the comments that it is faked

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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #56 on: May 19, 2022, 12:23:10 PM »


I think it will be game over soon..
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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #57 on: May 19, 2022, 02:15:19 PM »
The Netherlands have joined Germany in not sending weapons to Ukraine.

We have exhausted all expendable supply, Rutte said.

Source:
https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/141371755/rutte-niet-meer-pantserhouwitsers-naar-oekraine

And because NL is currently not at war, they will also not commandeer factories to turn them into weapons producing facilities. The army will have to wait for the normal supply line
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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2022, 02:20:42 PM »
The Netherlands have joined Germany in not sending weapons to Ukraine.

We have exhausted all expendable supply, Rutte said.

Source:
https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/141371755/rutte-niet-meer-pantserhouwitsers-naar-oekraine

And because NL is currently not at war, they will also not commandeer factories to turn them into weapons producing facilities. The army will have to wait for the normal supply line

I also read that.. Europe will have no supplies left to send soon all those multi million $ missiles will need to be replaced ...
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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2022, 04:49:06 PM »
here he is confirming that his previous vid was fake


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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2022, 10:15:34 PM »


I think it will be game over soon..

Pro.Russia has said that since day one.

Except the day after moskva,bit then they got right back.to.it.

They might eventually be correct.

That photo.is supposed to.be who.exactly?.

And the letters verbiage sounds a lot like the debunked letter from.the 36 th Marines in azovstsl a month ago.


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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #61 on: May 20, 2022, 11:42:45 AM »
Per Strategic Intelligence reports Ukraine running out of Highly Trained Soldiers able to use Advanced UK and USA Weapons Systems (Javelins, Stingers, Switchblade Drones, Satellite Intelligence) yet the US is now sending an additional $40 BILLION USD to Ukraine for Military and Civilian aid and relief and support... 

Much of this advanced gear is making its way to the Black Markets in both Ukraine and Russia and is now being sold for reverse engineering purposes to China and to support ISIS, HAMAS and AL Qaeda terrorism...

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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2022, 12:37:52 AM »
3) There has been no "threat" to invade Ukraine. The US invented that and fed it to a complicit media.

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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2022, 05:26:52 PM »
Russian officer reporting on Ukrainian losses.
Some of these  numbers seem a bit  excessive.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdnRdQxr/
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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #64 on: May 26, 2022, 11:33:50 PM »

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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #65 on: May 27, 2022, 11:35:17 AM »
That's very high and doesn't look good.
Even Russian losses are not so high IMHO.
Except if Ukrainian civilians are included in the numerals.
 
Just my two cents, that looks a fake.

If the first number is correct Deaths of Ukrainian soldiers, 23,376
If you take total casualty rates into consideration you typically get something
like 2-3 wounded for every death.

War is truly a meat grinder.

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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #66 on: May 28, 2022, 09:11:35 AM »
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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #67 on: May 29, 2022, 06:58:32 PM »
With Russia blocking any export of grain,  the Ukrainian wheat will be held up causing shortages for several countries.
Russia wants sanctions lifted,  can't understand why because many here are of the opinion that the sanctions aren't doing much.

There is a growing number that are ready to either bring Nato ships or other ships to escort the Ukrainian wheat across the black sea.

This could directly provoke Russia,  but what Russia is doing isn't exactly by the book.

Personally I think Russia is not willing to confront the west or Nato.  They continue to make threats but even after many shipments of weapons to Ukraine,  Putin's threats have been nothing but hot air.

I don't use the western media or believe much they publish,  but the link is a courtesy to anyone curious about the subject.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/how-to-break-russias-blockade-of-ukraines-black-sea-ports/2022/05/29/2cd240c2-df26-11ec-bc35-a91d0a94923b_story.html
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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #68 on: May 30, 2022, 03:09:36 AM »
With Russia blocking any export of grain,  the Ukrainian wheat will be held up causing shortages for several countries.

Fake news, this is from 25-May:
https://www.transport-online.nl/site/140750/rusland-bereid-schepen-met-voedsel-door-zwarte-zee-te-laten-varen/

There is a growing number that are ready to either bring Nato ships or other ships to escort the Ukrainian wheat across the black sea.
Other than this is not needed because Russia is no longer blocking any food-ships from leaving, how do they think this is going to play out?

The 2 main harbours of Ukraine are Odessa and Mariupol. Once ships clear the Russian ships they are already past the warzone.
Before that, it would mean that NATO would have to go inside of their firing range and hope to god that Russia doesn't see them as legitimate targets inside an active warzone (which they will, any sane general will)

This could directly provoke Russia,  but what Russia is doing isn't exactly by the book.
Hence ,why war should be avoided at all costs. Its a huge error of Putin to start one war, but the west is equally responsible for keeping it going and not listening to Russia's concerns. Putin said: this is Russia's redline. The west called his bluff and crossed it. Turns out it wasn't bluff and war started.
This is not rocket science.

Personally I think Russia is not willing to confront the west or Nato.  They continue to make threats but even after many shipments of weapons to Ukraine,  Putin's threats have been nothing but hot air.
I'd rather not play with billions of lives when he's not bluffing. And his previous crossed red lines started a war in ukraine so he was definately not bluffing there. Thats one thing , Putin so far does exactly what he says.

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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #69 on: June 06, 2022, 08:26:42 PM »
short article about grain be loaded on Russian ships

http://www.hisutton.com/Russian-Merchant-Ships-Loading-In-Crimea.html

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« Reply #70 on: June 06, 2022, 08:57:42 PM »
short article about grain be loaded on Russian ships

http://www.hisutton.com/Russian-Merchant-Ships-Loading-In-Crimea.html

Another excellent example of why Russia wants Ukraine. Ukraine's grain helps to feed the world. Ukraine's grain  brings in money and Putin loves money. I'm sure somehow more than a few USDs from each sale will find its way into Putin's pockets.

If Russia controls the farming in Ukraine grain that isn't sent to Russia will be sold abroad and the money earned will go to Russia not Ukraine.

But of course that isn't why Putin invaded Ukraine. We all know Putin invaded Ukraine to eliminate Nazis.  :'( :'( :'( 
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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #71 on: June 07, 2022, 07:22:58 AM »
short article about grain be loaded on Russian ships

http://www.hisutton.com/Russian-Merchant-Ships-Loading-In-Crimea.html

Another excellent example of why Russia wants Ukraine. Ukraine's grain helps to feed the world. Ukraine's grain  brings in money and Putin loves money. I'm sure somehow more than a few USDs from each sale will find its way into Putin's pockets.

If Russia controls the farming in Ukraine grain that isn't sent to Russia will be sold abroad and the money earned will go to Russia not Ukraine.

But of course that isn't why Putin invaded Ukraine. We all know Putin invaded Ukraine to eliminate Nazis.  :'( :'( :'(

Russia will now control more of the world's food, which will make It even more difficult to isolate them. 
As has been stated many  times, perhaps it would be better for Ukraine to have yielded to Russian earlier demands, since he alternative continues to worsen.  It doesn't appear a determined Russia will be stopped and Russia has shown it's determination.

the west should have heeded the many warnings regarding expansion. this is the consequence Ukraine suffers.  Compounding the issue is the effort to milk Russia at Ukraine's populace expense.  Now maybe too late.  Early surrender and terms no so bad all things considered.  Options worsen as war continues.   Like it or no, Russia holds the key cards, so would have been best to fold a losing hand and live to fight another day.  Now Ukraine probably dies on this hill. 

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Re: Ukrainian Losses
« Reply #73 on: June 09, 2022, 10:16:07 AM »

Russia will now control more of the world's food, which will make It even more difficult to isolate them. 


Boy!!!  talk about sick! So now your excited that a NAZI dictator would control so much of the world food supply.  Now move this forward twenty years and think the type of life your children would face.
3) There has been no "threat" to invade Ukraine. The US invented that and fed it to a complicit media.

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« Reply #74 on: June 09, 2022, 10:25:59 AM »
Finland's government plans to amend border legislation to allow the building of barriers on its eastern frontier with Russia, it said on Thursday, in a move to strengthen preparedness against hybrid threats amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/finland-plans-build-barriers-border-131838296.html
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