Ukrainian Losses

[Steveboy]

Steve, All this war is, is a land and resource grab and everything else is bull shit. There is nothing to do about Nazis and helping the people in Ukraine that is real. Too bad young Russians are going to pay for this war with their lives and the future of your son will dimmer because of this war.

My wife is also happy to fight.. no its not all about Nazis I already told you what it is about DOUBLE STANDARDS & HYPOCRISY.. If we all die in the process lest speak about it on the other side..

Steve, why don't you and your wife start a website to recruit Brits, Americans and others to fight for Russia? The Ukrainian government has been very successful in recruiting foreigners to fight for Ukraine, maybe you could be equally successful in getting foreigners to fight for Russia?

You and your wife say you're happy to fight for Russia? Then do it. You could take cameras along when you fighting and get some photos and videos. I'm sure Manny would allow you to post them here.

Maybe Manny will even allow you to do posts about recruiting foreigners to fight for Russia? Since Manny is very much pro Putin I'm surprised he doesn't have a section here about recruiting foreigners to fight for Russia? Best of luck.

I have more interesting things to do ..like make money.. at the moment that is ok.. if and when the time arrises like there will be WW3 then that situation may change and if it does I will be happy to fight for Russia ..pretty simple really .. no need to make a web site, go recruiting, post pictures on this forum or other forums if the situation happens that I have to fight, you really think im going to spend my time posting pictures on here..

And if the situation should change to WW3 there would be no point even posting any photos.. this forum will be debunked just like most other internet sites along with most of the population and maybe yourself..

But please If you get called up and arrive over here ready to walk into Red Square please wear a badge on your hat saying "Westcoast" So I don't make a mistake of shooting someone else whilst aiming at you..

[Steveboy]

Maybe Manny will even allow you to do posts about recruiting foreigners to fight for Russia? Since Manny is very much pro Putin I'm surprised he doesn't have a section here about recruiting foreigners to fight for Russia? Best of luck.

I'm not sure where Manny lives but here in the states I think a person would be sent to Guantanamo bay Cuba if he tried this sort of thing.  On a related subject, here in the states a person can't make that choice.  Also here in the states no person can travel to Cuba for tourism. 

Jonas!

If not there then to one of their European concentration camps.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30418405   

[Jonas!]

But please If you get called up and arrive over here ready to walk into Red Square please wear a badge on your hat saying "Westcoast" So I don't make a mistake of shooting someone else whilst aiming at you..

How mean! He seems pretty harmless.  Just shoot him in the butt with a BB to see if his reflexes are still good.

Jonas! 

[WestCoast]

Steve, All this war is, is a land and resource grab and everything else is bull shit. There is nothing to do about Nazis and helping the people in Ukraine that is real. Too bad young Russians are going to pay for this war with their lives and the future of your son will dimmer because of this war.

My wife is also happy to fight.. no its not all about Nazis I already told you what it is about DOUBLE STANDARDS & HYPOCRISY.. If we all die in the process lest speak about it on the other side..

Steve, why don't you and your wife start a website to recruit Brits, Americans and others to fight for Russia? The Ukrainian government has been very successful in recruiting foreigners to fight for Ukraine, maybe you could be equally successful in getting foreigners to fight for Russia?

You and your wife say you're happy to fight for Russia? Then do it. You could take cameras along when you fighting and get some photos and videos. I'm sure Manny would allow you to post them here.

Maybe Manny will even allow you to do posts about recruiting foreigners to fight for Russia? Since Manny is very much pro Putin I'm surprised he doesn't have a section here about recruiting foreigners to fight for Russia? Best of luck.

I have more interesting things to do ..like make money.. at the moment that is ok.. if and when the time arrises like there will be WW3 then that situation may change and if it does I will be happy to fight for Russia ..pretty simple really .. no need to make a web site, go recruiting, post pictures on this forum or other forums if the situation happens that I have to fight, you really think im going to spend my time posting pictures on here..

And if the situation should change to WW3 there would be no point even posting any photos.. this forum will be debunked just like most other internet sites along with most of the population and maybe yourself..

But please If you get called up and arrive over here ready to walk into Red Square please wear a badge on your hat saying "Westcoast" So I don't make a mistake of shooting someone else whilst aiming at you..

Supposedly the Ukrainian government is paying foreign fighters very well (£1,500 a day) so if the Russian government follows suit you and your wife could make some very good money fighting for Russia. Then of course there's the honors you could receive. If you save a high ranking officer's life you could receive military honors.

Also if you help shorten the war there'd be no need for WW3. If you help Russia succeed in capturing Ukraine maybe you'll receive your own command when Putin decides on his next FSU country to bring back in the fold?

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/ukraine-foreign-soldiers-russia-foreign-legion-fight-b986175.html

[Jonas!]

Supposedly the Ukrainian government is paying foreign fighters very well (£1,500 a day)

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I guess that is where US billions are being spent. 
$1500 a day is enough to definitely lure in a lot of people, although the risk of death is probably extremely high.  I wonder if there is a death bonus that goes to the families of those killed. 

It kind of shows the power of money overall.  One reason why Russia is going to fight to be in a better position to make more in the future by whatever means necessary.... like the US does.   

Jonas!   

[Jonas!]

Supposedly the Ukrainian government is paying foreign fighters very well (£1,500 a day)
 
I guess that is where US billions are being spent. 
$1500 a day is enough to definitely lure in a lot of people, although the risk of death is probably extremely high.  I wonder if there is a death bonus that goes to the families of those killed. 

It kind of shows the power of money overall.  One reason why Russia is going to fight to be in a better position to make more in the future by whatever means necessary.... like the US does.   

Jonas!
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[B.B.]

I'm not sure where Manny lives

Manchester, England.  "Manny" is actually a derivative of "Manchester".

but here in the states I think a person would be sent to Guantanamo bay Cuba if he tried this sort of thing.

Wouldn't be 'Gitmo unless you were foreign born, and even then not likely.  Usually, the guys who get picked up for this are being recruited to ISIS or al-Qaida - or think they are but really they are talking to an FBI agent.  You'd have to be recruiting to join the armed forces of a sworn enemy, but not Ukr or Russia, at least  until we go to war with Russia, if that happens, which I hope it does not.  You might get a "visit" but I doubt they'd do anything besides discourage you.

Also here in the states no person can travel to Cuba for tourism. 

False.  The Cubans will happily admit US Passport holders.  You just cannot fly direct.

B/B

[Texan77]

Supposedly the Ukrainian government is paying foreign fighters very well (£1,500 a day)

Where did you get this from? The fighter I have seen being interview claimed they were not getting paid anything.

[Jonas!]

but here in the states I think a person would be sent to Guantanamo bay Cuba if he tried this sort of thing.

Wouldn't be 'Gitmo unless you were foreign born, and even then not likely.  Usually, the guys who get picked up for this are being recruited to ISIS or al-Qaida - or think they are but really they are talking to an FBI agent.  You'd have to be recruiting to join the armed forces of a sworn enemy, but not Ukr or Russia, at least  until we go to war with Russia, if that happens, which I hope it does not.  You might get a "visit" but I doubt they'd do anything besides discourage you.

I was joking about Gitmo...but yeah if we actually went to war with Russia individuals wouldn't matter much anyway, the weaponry would take out massive amounts of people all at once anyway. 

False.  The Cubans will happily admit US Passport holders.  You just cannot fly direct.
B/B

I know Cuba is just fine with us coming.  I tried to book a trip recently.  Our local sites like Expedia won't even permit a person in the states from seeing the flights originating from Mexico to Cuba.   I tried to put Tijuana to Cuba and I can't remember if it was Expedia or Priceline but they directed me to a page of US sanctions link.   When I head to Colombia I'll have to see if I can use a different website after I get there.

Jonas! 

[Steveboy]

Supposedly the Ukrainian government is paying foreign fighters very well (£1,500 a day)
 
I guess that is where US billions are being spent. 
$1500 a day is enough to definitely lure in a lot of people, although the risk of death is probably extremely high.  I wonder if there is a death bonus that goes to the families of those killed. 

It kind of shows the power of money overall.  One reason why Russia is going to fight to be in a better position to make more in the future by whatever means necessary.... like the US does.   

Jonas!

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According to the last Brit to be captured he has not been paid..    Probably before he decided to offer his services he had never even heard of Ukraine.. so had no idea they do not pay anyone.. they just steal money its easier.. they do not even pay the old folk there for working each month.. It is one of the reasons Im not and never will do any tours there.. just aint worth the hassle ... I came to this conclusion about 20 years ago..

[Texan77]

.. It is one of the reasons Im not and never will do any tours there.. just aint worth the hassle ... I came to this conclusion about 20 years ago..

Steveboy you are so right, Ukraine has not undergone any changes in the last twenty years. There is no reason to stay current. 

[Tom Cat]

Anyone know what type of bomb is in the link below?


https://twitter.com/JoeyContino/status/1521932113079111681?s=20&t=NPJHYIlee2llVdbqF3k9lA

Russia has broken into the Azovstal plant and there is heavy fighting going on.
Russia has also been bombing the plant by every way possible 
There is still an estimated 500 civilians inside the plant 
How is what Russia is doing anymore acceptable than what the Ukrainian Nazis were Supposedly accused of?

[WestCoast]

Did Russia steal 400K tons of grain from Ukraine? Maybe, maybe not but either way this is another reason why Putin would want Ukraine. Ukraine is the 4th supplier of grain, selling about 44.7 million tonnes in the 2020-2021 season.

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/russia-steals-400000-tons-grain-ukraine-famine-warning-144407455.html

[Lon]

Did Russia steal 400K tons of grain from Ukraine? Maybe, maybe not but either way this is another reason why Putin would want Ukraine. Ukraine is the 4th supplier of grain, selling about 44.7 million tonnes in the 2020-2021 season.

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/russia-steals-400000-tons-grain-ukraine-famine-warning-144407455.html

saw this vid earlier.  who knows how truthful it is

or what is in trucks

[Jonas!]

Did Russia steal 400K tons of grain from Ukraine? Maybe, maybe not but either way this is another reason why Putin would want Ukraine. Ukraine is the 4th supplier of grain, selling about 44.7 million tonnes in 2020-2021 season.

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/russia-steals-400000-tons-grain-ukraine-famine-warning-144407455.html

Once the decision was made that Ukraine was the enemy, I think this is one of the key resources Russia decided they were going to take from Ukraine and their Western supporters. 

Jonas! 

[WestCoast]

Supposedly the Ukrainian government is paying foreign fighters very well (£1,500 a day)

Where did you get this from? The fighter I have seen being interview claimed they were not getting paid anything.

Texan77 I recommend you read all of my posts. At least 80% of my posts are highly informative. 15% are good and the other 5% can be ignored.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/ukraine-foreign-soldiers-russia-foreign-legion-fight-b986175.html

[WestCoast]

Now the EU is getting really serious about cutting off the revenue Russia earns from sales of its oil. The EU is proposing a ban on European ships and companies providing any service related to the shipment of Russian crude and refined products anywhere in the world — such as financing, insurance, or even technical support — according to draft legislation seen by Bloomberg.

Since Greece is by far the biggest shipper of Russian oil and oil products and is an EU member this might actually work and cut off a significant source of revenue for Russia.

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/eu-going-russias-global-oil-124436982.html

[Tom Cat]

All civilians have been evaluated from the Azovstal plant.
The fighting continues and is doubtful Russia will take control before their victory day.
It's been rumored for a few weeks now that the remaining soldiers were running out of supplies and ammunition,  but somehow they continue to fight.

[andrewfi]

Have they all been evacuated?

Some of the fighters came out under a white flag, but the ones who remain were a day or two ago asking for a tonne of food and drugs in exchange for one hostage.

That implies that they have stock in hand of hostages to exchange.

And yes, they are hostages. If they were free to leave then no food for person exchange would be offered.

[Tom Cat]

Have they all been evacuated?

Some of the fighters came out under a white flag, but the ones who remain were a day or two ago asking for a tonne of food and drugs in exchange for one hostage.

That implies that they have stock in hand of hostages to exchange.

And yes, they are hostages. If they were free to leave then no food for person exchange would be offered.

There's also many other sources saying the same.
I  would think  there will be some heavy bombing there to try and secure the last holdout 
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-war-taking-heavy-toll-russian-forces-u-rcna27760

[AvHdB]

Compared the rather lame and insipid speech of V. Putin what W. Zelensky states is poignant and forceful.

[Texan77]

Have they all been evacuated?

Some of the fighters came out under a white flag, but the ones who remain were a day or two ago asking for a tonne of food and drugs in exchange for one hostage.

That implies that they have stock in hand of hostages to exchange.

And yes, they are hostages. If they were free to leave then no food for person exchange would be offered.

Yea and where did you get this fake news from?

[AJ]

Have they all been evacuated?

Some of the fighters came out under a white flag, but the ones who remain were a day or two ago asking for a tonne of food and drugs in exchange for one hostage.

That implies that they have stock in hand of hostages to exchange.

And yes, they are hostages. If they were free to leave then no food for person exchange would be offered.

One hostage being a captured pow,pr a civilian?
I I havnt seen that,
Though I would not doubt it's a possibility

[Contrarian]

An art museum in Mariupol has apparently been destroyed by a Russian airstrike.

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2022/03/23/mariupol-museum-dedicated-to-19th-century-artist-arkhip-kuindzhi-destroyed-by-airstrike-according-to-local-media?utm_source=The+Art+Newspaper+Newsletters&utm_campaign=816be45365-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2022_03_22_09_02&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c459f924d0-816be45365-61039233

[AvHdB]

An art museum in Mariupol has apparently been destroyed by a Russian airstrike.

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2022/03/23/mariupol-museum-dedicated-to-19th-century-artist-arkhip-kuindzhi-destroyed-by-airstrike-according-to-local-media?utm_source=The+Art+Newspaper+Newsletters&utm_campaign=816be45365-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2022_03_22_09_02&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c459f924d0-816be45365-61039233

It seems the artwork of Arkhip Kuindzhi was removed. Though there is the likelihood other art work were lost. It seems both Russian and Ukraine claim him as there own. Sort of like Piet Mondriaan, the Dutch consider him a Cloggie, the French a frog and the Americans claim him as American. Such is art history.

There is more than enough evidence that Russia has deliberately targeted Ukraine cultural sites and museums.