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Is the USSR on it's way back?

In less than ten years the Russian people will not have freedom of movement
The Russian people will always have freedom of movement
Everyone who opposes Putin will be jailed, killed or worse
People in Russia can oppose Putin with no consequences
Russia will gobble up all their Non-Nato neighbors
Russia will remain at peace and tranquility with countries on it's borders

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Is the USSR on it's way back?
« on: March 27, 2022, 08:53:55 AM »
Is the USSR on it's way back?

I am only partially referencing invading their neighbors. I am talking
about freedom. In ten years will Russian women be allowed to leave
Russia? Will your wife?

100% of the men who ran against Putin for President of Russia have
been jailed.

This poll is about Russia not USAians. You want a USAian thread? Start
your own.

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Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2022, 09:02:07 AM »
Please note that the headlines below have been written by some of the
most biased and questionable news outlets in the West.
Is it news or is it propaganda?

Putin’s purge of ‘traitors’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-e2-80-99s-purge-of-e2-80-98traitors-e2-80-99-scoops-up-pensioners-foodies-and-peaceniks/ar-AAVwt5H


Russians use abduction, hostage-taking to threaten Ukrainian journalists in occupied zones
https://rsf.org/en/news/russians-use-abduction-hostage-taking-threaten-ukrainian-journalists-occupied-zones


The Strange Rebirth Of Imperial Russia
"This, it seems to me, is what many of us have missed about the newly visible monster of post-Communist Russia. It would be hard to conjure up a period of post-modern bewilderment more vividly than Russia in the post-Soviet 1990s. A vast empire collapsed overnight; an entire totalitarian system, long since discredited but still acting as some kind of social glue and cultural meaning, unraveled in chaos and confusion.


https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/the-strange-rebirth-of-imperial-russia-694?s=w
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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2022, 07:19:01 PM »
Bill

I thought you are more serious person than a sex tourist and I am very dissapointed reading most of your above and will not take part on your Voting too.

In actual fact your questions going hand in hand with the atrocious crap that I read of the article by Andrew Sullivan.

Come on Bill stop the childish behaviour when we are talking for such impoartant subject as the war in Ukraine. Sto reading MSN and watching crap on TV.


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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2022, 05:43:02 AM »
Russia will become one of the final refuges for those wanting to live in a Christian culture, with minimal government interference in daily life, where nobody is pretending there are 300 genders or much of the other rot that has set in in the west. That's why an increasing number of people from the west choose to live there. 

As long as you don't want to run for president, life is pretty calm there. Give it twenty years and we'll see a flood of people going there.
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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2022, 07:08:56 AM »
Soviet Union reborn?

Nope, not a bit of it. Mr Putin has, himself said that while the fall of the Soviet Union was a humanitarian disaster, there is no way back to those days and that the Soviet Union was a disaster for Russia.

However, are you going to see a bloc of countries that see common ground in security and economic terms? Absolutely - and unless one is severely underinformed, then one already knows all about that. The organisations already exist and have done for years.

Of course, millions of people, the misinformed who cannot be arsed to learn for themselves and rely upon headlines on newspapers or TV news broadcasts, will be told that those organisations are the Soviet Union reincarnated.

We all have a choice to be well informed - or otherwise.
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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2022, 05:11:35 PM »
I would like to know how many of the American people have lately visited Russia and Ukraine and if they have seen this long propaganda video against Poutin!

Has the standard of living in Russia improved since the years of Yeltsin who sold everything to USA CORPORATOCRACY

Take a look now and see how well you know Russia and explain to me why Poutin is so popular!

I have a laugh listening the Alzeimer President calling Putin " Murderer " and forgets what USA that has been invading a huge list of countries and killing millions of people.......after WWII.

The Americans have to get used to the fact they are not the only Nation  occupyin the top spot and must share the possition of Hegemon ...... and there are a few  more ...to share....

Some time ago I posted an article talking about the downhil direction of the Dollar and all about Ukraine has to do with the world currencys dollar and also with the American economy., which needs another war to make their defence industry moving its economy after the Covid- 19 created by Faoutsi.....in wuham.

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Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2022, 06:42:06 AM »
As long as you don't want to run for president, life is pretty calm there. Give it twenty years and we'll see a flood of people going there.

As long as you don't want to .......
Start a business, or own nice property, or live without corruption.
As long as you don't want those types of things then Russia is one
of the last places where political correctness hasn't crept into.

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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2022, 07:02:15 AM »
As long as you don't want to run for president, life is pretty calm there. Give it twenty years and we'll see a flood of people going there.

As long as you don't want to .......
Start a business, or own nice property, or live without corruption.
As long as you don't want those types of things then Russia is one
of the last places where political correctness hasn't crept into.

Billy

When was the last time you visited Russia?

Are you tellin us that there is not corruption in USA?
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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2022, 09:06:28 AM »
Billy

When was the last time you visited Russia?

Are you tellin us that there is not corruption in USA?

Wiz,

This thread is about Russia, not the USA. You are free to start your own
thread, but I am not participating. Udachi! Bill

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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2022, 09:44:29 AM »
Russia will become one of the final refuges for those wanting to live in a Christian culture, with minimal government interference in daily life, where nobody is pretending there are 300 genders or much of the other rot that has set in in the west. That's why an increasing number of people from the west choose to live there. 

As long as you don't want to run for president, life is pretty calm there. Give it twenty years and we'll see a flood of people going there.

It is a long time since I was in Russia, however, I used to spend a lot of time there. During my sojourns in Russia, I noted that there was a greater level of personal freedom than in the countries I had experienced up to that time. I see no sign of changes in that respect. The main area of difference comes in terms of the way that government interferes in and constrains day to day life.

In essence, the government in Russia is not particularly interested in what the people do or how they live. Every society has limitations upon personal freedoms - it is a necessary evil. Different societies have different constraints that depend upon the cultural expectations of the people and the form of government. The cultural differences are why we, as outsiders, tend to notice the accepted limitations on freedom when we move into a new, to us, society or country.

One other point I'd make. During my time in Russia, I was fortunate enough to interact at a high level with some large businesses in the country, all of them were foreign-owned and are names that would be familiar to most reading this post.
I discovered a particular example of two businesses that were, at the time, the leaders in their field globally in a very large business niche. Both were expanding rapidly in Russia.
One company had armed security outside the premises, the other did not - they felt no need to have them.

The company with armed guards told me that they had problems with corruption and that doing business was difficult and time-consuming.
The company that had no need for armed guards said that they had no problems with corruption and that business was conducted in a timely fashion.

Given that both businesses were doing exactly the same business, dealing with exactly the same bureaucracy on a local and national level, this was a surprise. The latter case was an unexpected situation.

What was the difference between the two businesses? And, yes, there was just one significant difference, but one that informed the whole business culture within each business.

The company that had no need of armed guards, that had no difficulty with corruption and found that business could be conducted in a timely manner absolutely refused to pay bribes to officials! They followed all local and national regulations and performed all the administrative tasks that were required.

The company that had armed guards, had issues with corruption and found that business was taking a long time to conduct told me that they felt they needed to pay bribes and be involved in corruption. And, they did and were!

Things that make you go hmmm...

Given the time I was meeting with the representatives of these businesses, my guess is that one company dealt with Mr Putin and his successors (both ideological and practical) and the other business did not. During the time that both businesses had started working in Russia, in Saint Petersburg, it is inevitable that in the recent past, they'd have been dealing with people under Mr Putin's purview if not direct reports (as well as, of course, many other bureaucrats and officials). Mr Putin had a stellar reputation in SPb while he was working for the city government. He refused to be involved with bribe-taking, was efficient and worked to the letter of the law.

Corruption is a choice.

When I was studying in Helsinki, I did some research into the costs of corruption as compared to the costs of an uncorrupted business environment. It turns out that there is a point in an economy's development where corruption is actually beneficial to businesses and individuals in efficiency terms. After the economy has developed sufficiently, corruption becomes a deadweight on business growth and profits. The trick for businesses and individuals is to recognise the tipping point and alter their behaviour.

Another data point, many foreign visitors to Russia - often bride seekers - on this very forum would on the one hand bemoan the corruption present in Russia at the time and on the other hand, would boast about how little it cost them to bribe some official or other to get what they wanted. The thing about corruption is that it is usually understood as a way to get faster or better service than one might get otherwise. Corruption is usually illegal because the financial benefit of the corruption does not flow to the recipient business owner or government.

Conceptually at least, in the USA and elsewhere, it is commonplace to have legally sanctioned corruption in the form of fees paid to get faster or better service. These payments are legal because the financial benefit does not flow to the bribe-taker but rather to the organisation. In practice, there is very little difference as far as the bribe payer is concerned!
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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2022, 12:18:51 PM »
The new Soviet Union is already in Europe.. :laugh: :laugh:  Its called the EU..
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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2022, 02:14:59 PM »
The new Soviet Union is already in Europe.. :laugh: :laugh:  Its called the EU..

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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2022, 02:31:37 PM »
The new Soviet Union is already in Europe.. :laugh: :laugh:  Its called the EU..

I agree with your statement!

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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2022, 04:46:28 PM »
Any country with a deserved reputation for poisoning opponents has some maturing to do.

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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2022, 04:17:28 AM »
The new Soviet Union is already in Europe.. :laugh: :laugh:  Its called the EU..

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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2022, 05:53:33 PM »
Putting approval now at 83% per the Levada Ctr poll...

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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2022, 07:25:54 AM »
As long as you don't want to run for president, life is pretty calm there. Give it twenty years and we'll see a flood of people going there.

As long as you don't want to .......
Start a business, or own nice property, or live without corruption.
As long as you don't want those types of things then Russia is one
of the last places where political correctness hasn't crept into.

I don't know what parts of Russia you have been to, but it is bristling with nice properties. What do you imagine prohibits people from buying, building or acquiring property?
Read a trip report from North Korea >>here<< - Read a trip report from South Korea, China and Hong Kong >>here<<

Look what the American media makes some people believe:
Putin often threatens to strike US with nuclear weapons.

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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2022, 07:47:27 AM »
As long as you don't want to run for president, life is pretty calm there. Give it twenty years and we'll see a flood of people going there.

As long as you don't want to .......
Start a business, or own nice property, or live without corruption.
As long as you don't want those types of things then Russia is one
of the last places where political correctness hasn't crept into.

I don't know what parts of Russia you have been to, but it is bristling with nice properties. What do you imagine prohibits people from buying, building or acquiring property?

I have had my own business here for many years, I have a beautiful cottage (much of which I built myself), and apart from once many, many years ago being asked to contribute to a policeman's "pension fund", I have had no further experience with any form of corruption...
I love it here where a man is a man, and a woman is a woman with no in-betweens, where gays are hiding themselves from sight, where kids can play safely on the streets, where I can call a nigger a nigger and so forth..
It may suit you also one day as the rest of the world gets more insane...
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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2022, 11:08:06 AM »
The Afro worship in the USA is off the rails with every idea of theirs no matter how CCP Psycho Marxist is treated as the words of Gods... Whites always guilty due to original sin of slavery and Black's always the innocent victims...  reverse racism out of control... Now the Cuckold Will Smith Oscar's Slap of Comedian Chris Rock comment of Wills open marriage slutty wife Jayden's GI Jane shaved head...  Every white and black virtual signaling social justice warrior complaining about Will Smith's vulgar violence.

R U EFFING KIDDING???  Hollywood made its billions all the way back to its silent pictures beginnings on Cowboy VS Indians, Cops VS Robbers,  Gangsters and War ultra violent murder and mayhem movies.   Hollywood and the AMPAS treading lightly on this slap as it is the least violent thing from Hollywood this year.

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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2022, 11:32:25 AM »
The Afro worship in the USA is off the rails with every idea of theirs no matter how CCP Psycho Marxist is treated as the words of Gods... Whites always guilty due to original sin of slavery and Black's always the innocent victims...  reverse racism out of control... Now the Cuckold Will Smith Oscar's Slap of Comedian Chris Rock comment of Wills open marriage slutty wife Jayden's GI Jane shaved head...  Every white and black virtual signaling social justice warrior complaining about Will Smith's vulgar violence.

R U EFFING KIDDING???  Hollywood made its billions all the way back to its silent pictures beginnings on Cowboy VS Indians, Cops VS Robbers,  Gangsters and War ultra violent murder and mayhem movies.   Hollywood and the AMPAS treading lightly on this slap as it is the least violent thing from Hollywood this year.

If our 2A CCA ever infringed CanaCommie Truedope WEF Marxist style Russia post Ukraine Insane Recovery looking better than the BLM Burn Loot Murderers alternatives...

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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2022, 03:51:22 PM »
As long as you don't want to run for president, life is pretty calm there. Give it twenty years and we'll see a flood of people going there.

As long as you don't want to .......
Start a business, or own nice property, or live without corruption.
As long as you don't want those types of things then Russia is one
of the last places where political correctness hasn't crept into.

I don't know what parts of Russia you have been to, but it is bristling with nice properties. What do you imagine prohibits people from buying, building or acquiring property?

I have had my own business here for many years, I have a beautiful cottage (much of which I built myself), and apart from once many, many years ago being asked to contribute to a policeman's "pension fund", I have had no further experience with any form of corruption...
I love it here where a man is a man, and a woman is a woman with no in-betweens, where gays are hiding themselves from sight, where kids can play safely on the streets, where I can call a nigger a nigger and so forth..
It may suit you also one day as the rest of the world gets more insane...

Doesn't sound neo nazi in the least bit.

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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2022, 04:48:27 PM »
I love it here where a man is a man, and a woman is a woman with no in-betweens, where gays are hiding themselves from sight, where kids can play safely on the streets, where I can call a nigger a nigger and so forth..
It may suit you also one day as the rest of the world gets more insane...

are you in Russia?
a man is man and a woman is a woman here also.  have you been watching to much western media again...telling you what a sick place America is?  the alphabets mostly keep themselves to themselves.  in all reality they are such a small percentage of the population that you never see 'them'.
we have children in the front of my house and behind it in the alley playing.  does that work for you?  we really try to make sure they stay in yards and on the sidewalks?  do you have sidewalks where you are at?  where are you at again?
I have heard that the assault troops get out every August and put people in their place. is that what you think should be happening?
I can call anyone anything I want in America, just have to put up with the consequences.  you?  there are no consequences?  should be?

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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2022, 05:16:21 PM »
It may suit you also one day as the rest of the world gets more insane...

I jumped through the hoops to get our daughter a Russian passport for mostly this reason (as well as no visas needed to visit the folks). It's an insurance policy. One day, maybe when I'm gone, the insanity here may be so bad she can choose to live there if she wants. A normal country where people aren't imagining there are 300 genders and we don't have to apologise for being white. Or a way to escape the 127th virus lockdown. It's a ticket to escape just in case.

I'd advise any father with a kid to a Russian wife to do the same (assuming the wife is stable and normal) and for the kid to learn Russian. One day your kid may thank you for that escape route.

The same reason I bought a place in Estonia a decade ago. Just in case. That's pretty moot now since Estonia became the 52nd US state (behind Ukraine), but it was a good plan then.
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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2022, 06:29:32 PM »
As long as you don't want to run for president, life is pretty calm there. Give it twenty years and we'll see a flood of people going there.

As long as you don't want to .......
Start a business, or own nice property, or live without corruption.
As long as you don't want those types of things then Russia is one
of the last places where political correctness hasn't crept into.

I don't know what parts of Russia you have been to, but it is bristling with nice properties. What do you imagine prohibits people from buying, building or acquiring property?

I have had my own business here for many years, I have a beautiful cottage (much of which I built myself), and apart from once many, many years ago being asked to contribute to a policeman's "pension fund", I have had no further experience with any form of corruption...
I love it here where a man is a man, and a woman is a woman with no in-betweens, where gays are hiding themselves from sight, where kids can play safely on the streets, where I can call a nigger a nigger and so forth..
It may suit you also one day as the rest of the world gets more insane...

Doesn't sound neo nazi in the least bit.

 :dh:

What do you see as neo nazi in that what I have written??
Explain...
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Re: Is the USSR on it's way back?
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2022, 06:34:11 PM »
Interesting article...

Putin Orders 134,500 New Conscripts Into Army, But Says They Won't Go To Front Lines

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-orders-134500-new-conscripts-army-says-they-wont-go-front-lines


 

 

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