Sugar Babies, Sugar Daddies and Seeking.com - an alternative perspective!

[andrewfi]

Thanks Jonas!

To be straight, I have never, since I decided to be active, had much difficulty in meeting women in one way or another.

Having recently ended a relationship with a woman about 23 years younger than myself, I decided that I did not want to end up in a committed relationship just yet. But I was surprised to find so many women on Seeking who were!

Anyway, two dates lined up this week. One with a local woman and another woman flying out here from the UK for a few days.

In the end, if one presents oneself well, do not send out dick pics and generally behaves like a proper man, then one will do just fine.

From what I have been told and as I have in part reported upthread, even in an environment where guys are paying over €100 the requisite skills are lacking.

I wonder whether guys who report failures are more accurately thought of as being in some way socially inept or more coarsely they are dicks.

Basically, if a fat old bloke can do it, why can't younger better looking guys do it?

I just keep an open mind and do what works in order to have a good time and meet very nice people.

[andrewfi]

As an update, here goes.

I am likely to end my paid subscription to seeking.com before the next payment.

A week or so ago I met, in the UK a great woman. We had a lovely time together and she will be joining me in Spain for a couple of weeks. There will be nothing too serious but we will hook up when I am in the UK.

I have also met a local woman, also great fun. She too will be joining me in Spain for a different couple of weeks but also spending time together here.

Neither is a conventional Sugar Daddy/Sugar Baby arrangement. Both were looking for a low-commitment relationship with a guy who is solvent and able to be a good companion. I can only recommend the site for guys who are wanting to find a relationship that meets their needs and desires - whether that is a long term romantic relationship or something shorter term or lower commitment.

Yeah, if €100 per month is too strong a commitment for you then you are clearly not in the target market for the site or the women thereon. If one worries about spending too much on a coffee and sandwich at the time of the first meeting, then, again, you are not the target market.

I very much liked the way in which the structure of the site tends to lead to an open discussion about goals, desires and attitudes from the outset. I met with women who I found pleasant, good company and attractive. I am not planning matrimony and neither are the women I met. But many of the women are marriage-minded - with the right man. I tended to reject women who made it clear in their profiles that they were marriage-minded. I also rejected profiles where it was clear that the woman was, shall we say, a professional sugar baby. The minority of profiles that remained was still very large and encompassed a wide range of women in terms of age, attractiveness and other attributes.

And yeah, there's no doubt that having a standard of living that supports a month's vacation in a private home in a nice part of Spain, frequent luxury weekends away and a guy who likes shopping with women are all plus points, But I also know that not all of that was necessary to make the connections I made! The connections were made because of my attitude and personality,

It has been great fun, my eyes were opened and, to be honest, I wish I had done this a long time ago.

[Steveboy]

as soon as i saw seeking.com .....oh dear

These seeking.com girls (paid members)have access to a forum where they discuss what males pay on dates and the 'no money but coffee guys' get flagged. They also have whatsapp groups . You must be paying good money to stay on seeking.com.

Sounds just like many guys on Eastern European dating sites.. want to meet Ukrainian & Russian women but want the women to pay for her own ticket to visit him in his country and buy the meals 

[andrewfi]

I think that Andrew 99 has no idea what he was burbling about. Almost none of the women on the site are paid members.

Oh, I paid the normal membership fee with a small introductory discount. One cannot communicate without paying.

Of all the dating sites I have used, Seeking.com offered the best outcomes with least cost and wasted time.

Sorry Stefan, I never used one of your fine sites and so cannot make a comparison.

As a rule of thumb, one would be best served to reject female premium profiles from the outset. I did not interact with a single one while using the site.

[andrewfi]

A few days ago I cancelled my subscription to Seeking.com. I did so as a satisfied client.

Here's the update as of today.

I made contact with quite a few women, or more accurately, quite a few women made contact with me. I tended to prefer women who contacted me on the basis that, as long as the profile was genuine, they had already made a positive choice. I can equally understand the tactic of preferring to initiate contacts.

I went on several 'dates' and met some very nice women, none of whom was looking for a cliche sugar baby/sugar daddy setup. That, as I noted before, was a bit of a surprise.

A couple of weeks ago I had a very pleasant meeting with one woman in the UK. We had a marvellous time together and if I was in the UK more often, or for longer periods we would absolutely have a long-term arrangement. As it is, we will meet up again when I am in the UK. This woman was the oldest of all with whom I engaged - her 49th birthday will be in a few days. She is great company, very attractive, great sex. All round, two thumbs up.

I invited her to spend a couple of weeks with me in Spain, she eagerly accepted but sadly, will not be able to come. She is starting a new job in a few days and sensibly enough chose not to get off on the wrong foot with her new employer during the peak holiday season. Perhaps later in the year, she will come with me to Spain, but certainly, we will meet up again.

I also met up with a lovely woman based in Tallinn. Very attractive sexy woman, smart and great fun a tad younger than the first encounter at 38 years of age. She works in Switzerland at the moment and scheduling between my time in the UK and her work in Geneva meant that we have not spent much time together. However, she just returned to Tallinn today so we will put that right over the coming days. She will be coming to Spain with me. Originally for two weeks but she may extend given that lady number one is not now joining me. She is now taking vacation until the end of July. I bet you Yanks get fed up with us Europeans and our civilised vacation allowances.

A curveball came my way. I attended the wedding of the lady I mentioned in my thread about Viagra and its covert use on a reluctant fiance. At the wedding was the woman to whom I was engaged several years ago. It was the first time we had seen each other since then. Damme, but she looked hot! Long story short, we ended up spending most of the day and night together. We will not be getting back together. I made that clear and she made clear her regret at having done a really, really stupid thing. We agreed to meet up again to further our mutual interests but on the basis, from my side, that this would not lead to a rekindling of the earlier status quo. She understands that she is not the only woman who will be sharing my bed and company and she told me she was OK with that.

So, now I have a prial of pussy. I have no way to know how stable that might be, but for sure, Seeking.com has played an excellent role in making life more fun, provided some adventures and pleasant company. A bonus might be that while I will happily enjoy the pleasure of my former fiancee, I have no desire to reform happy home with her.

[andrewfi]

A short(ish) update. The woman work works in Switzerland is still with me.

We spend a lot of time together when she's back home. She will be joining me in Spain in a few days. We will fly from here to Croatia for a music festival she wants to go to.

I still think positively about Seeking. Problems arise when one is not honest with oneself or others.

My friend who introduced me to the site still sees the woman he met several years ago after a Covid enforced break the meant he was working from home. Mor recently he made contact with a woman who is a genuine porn star. Costs him a lot of money but can afford it and enjoys it.

He, like me was clear about his goals and didn't try to cheap out or mislead.

I'd say try it if you're looking for a genuine woman, there are plenty of them!