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Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« on: March 03, 2022, 11:38:31 AM »
This is a link to a Married Lady who is staying (hiding) with a lady friend and her child while their husbands are out fighting the Russians who have encircled Kherson so Inna can't even get out to her parents village, has no car and now no money to travel ... reminds me of the Yoguslavia Genocide wars... explosions happened outside her window at the end of the interview with Conor Clyne when she had cut short to go to the basement as a bomb shelter though we know basements tend to get caved-in so not bloody ideal.


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So the problem is when I tried two different Visa and one Mastercard all triggered "Fraud prevention protocols" which I had to verify that I authorized the transactions and others...  to get my cards turned back on - there has to be a way to use MoneyGram or PayPal and not get my cards turned off for fraud prevention - seems the damned USA Banks can't tell the difference between Russia (Sanctioned) and Ukraine being blown to smithereens...   

Any advice on how to help this lady and others out in UA now that all of Ukraine is a war zone and the USA has ordered all US Citizens oot of Russia as a NO-GO Zone - Manny seems to like TransferWise to Send GBP or EUROS not too sure about dollars with all the draconian sanctions appears to overlap into Ukraine (WTF) and I am tired of my cards being temp frozen by Fraud Detection Protocols!!!

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Donation to Ukrainian teacher Inna who is from Kherson

Your donations will help me and my friends with kids to survive in Kherson during the war. Our husbands are at war. When we will have a chance to escape from one of the hottest places of Ukraine, we will have money for transportation and living in another city or country.

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Phooking damned Visa and MC to bloody hell - there has to be a way to help this lady so she does not have to dodge rockets, artillery and bullets???

My MoneyGram and PayPal accounts work and insulate my plastic cards from the Fraud Protocols so need to start from there.

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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2022, 12:03:33 PM »
Don't worry cufflinks. It seems that the Russians are now in control of Kherson. The bad stuff such as may have been present is now finished. Hopefully, the men were trained soldiers and not armed civilians.

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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2022, 01:25:29 PM »
Don't worry cufflinks. It seems that the Russians are now in control of Kherson. The bad stuff such as may have been present is now finished. Hopefully, the men were trained soldiers and not armed civilians.

Useless self-centered info as usual Lord Afifi and exempt of even one scintilla of human compassion - this could be Tallinn's fate soon so there but for the grace of the almighty goes YOU.  This post was not for soliciting your pontificating opinions and various other inebriated rants and condescensions...

FOCUS AFI - you are a smart bloke with hints of bloody brilliance when sober so FOCUS - How do I get cash into this scared woman's hands especially if the starving Russian Soldiers raid all the shops in Kherson that are already shelf bare - try to be a compassionate human being for bloody once!  It's hard we know for you but BLOODY TRY!



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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2022, 01:41:41 PM »
Cuffy,  my wife is making enquiries for you over in Ukraine, we sent some funds over there yesterday no problem, bank to bank, but I doubt that would be an option now in Kherson and even if it was, in an hours time it could all change, but leave it with us, might get an update tomorrow.
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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2022, 02:00:36 PM »
How do I get cash into this scared woman's hands especially if the starving Russian Soldiers raid all the shops in Kherson that are already shelf bare - try to be a compassionate human being for bloody once!  It's hard we know for you but BLOODY TRY!

Why o why do I suddenly get idea's in my head about some fat bloke named Yuri based in Lughansk who is conversing as a woman in dire need because of the war.
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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2022, 03:10:12 PM »
Cuffy,  my wife is making enquiries for you over in Ukraine, we sent some funds over there yesterday no problem, bank to bank, but I doubt that would be an option now in Kherson and even if it was, in an hours time it could all change, but leave it with us, might get an update tomorrow.

Chris I know you to be sharp in business and in life - I am more than willing to send you 100 Euros or USD Equiv and have you and your wife get it to Inna via her contacts - agree Kherson is a Clusterfook right now ...

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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2022, 03:15:50 PM »
I noticed there are food banks being set up in Kiev and elsewhere right now. This might be one option. The Ukrainian authorities and volunteer organizations are doing their best to get food and water to people who need it.

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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2022, 03:23:56 PM »
How do I get cash into this scared woman's hands especially if the starving Russian Soldiers raid all the shops in Kherson that are already shelf bare - try to be a compassionate human being for bloody once!  It's hard we know for you but BLOODY TRY!

Why o why do I suddenly get idea's in my head about some fat bloke named Yuri based in Lughansk who is conversing as a woman in dire need because of the war.

Not funny you EVIL Satanic arsehole - this is a contact of Conor Clyne who is the original anti-scammer consigliere and Inna runs a real online Ukraine language school - she is married and was doing an interview with Conor in Kherson when an explosion outside her window forced her into the basement as a piss poor air raid shelter - I am one of the most lethal mofos on this board and can spot a phooking Hairy Bosis or Philthy Pedro in a nanosecond - I even posted links to her school and Conor's YT Channel Interview.

I hope you Crimean Putinistas run into Stirlitz and he can give you an attitude correction with his AKM.  I am going to send him extra cash for bullets just because of you and your Evil heartless kindred spirit Afifi.

I can see mushroom clouds over Tallinn and Rotterdam soon...


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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2022, 03:30:00 PM »
Not funny you EVIL Satanic arsehole - this is a contact of Conor Clyne who is the original anti-scammer consigliere and Inna runs a real online Ukraine language school - she is married and was doing an interview with Conor in Kherson when an explosion outside her window forced her into the basement as a piss poor air raid shelter - I am one of the most lethal mofos on this board and can spot a phooking Hairy Bosis or Philthy Pedro in a nanosecond - I even posted links to her school and Conor's YT Channel Interview.

I hope you Crimean Putinistas run into Stirlitz and he can give you an attitude correction with his AKM.  I am going to send him extra cash for bullets just because of you and your Evil heartless kindred spirit Afifi.

I can see mushroom clouds over Tallinn and Rotterdam soon...
Such a short temper. Half of my inlaws are just as much ph00ked as others on this board. Thats not including the parts living in Crimea they are reasonably safe for the time being.

Stirlitz and I have met and traveled together at my cost, I still hold good memories to that event. Despite his political views I wish him well and hopes he will survive his dealings with the Russian army (that will of course mean, Russians will loose their lives).
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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2022, 03:31:44 PM »
I noticed there are food banks being set up in Kiev and elsewhere right now. This might be one option. The Ukrainian authorities and volunteer organizations are doing their best to get food and water to people who need it.

Gov aid agencies and NGOs in FSU have a long history of diverting cash - since Swiss Banks surprisingly off limits Far East Crypto Exchanges have stepped into the void. 

If I have to I will send stable crypto coins Person to Person on a metamask wallet on their smartphones - they can send their private keywords to an encrypted protonmail account and toss the phone and reload metamask on any new smartphone then reenter enter the saved keywords and restore their wallet and cryptos - USDC fees minimal P2P wallet to wallet.


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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2022, 03:46:32 PM »
Not funny you EVIL Satanic arsehole - this is a contact of Conor Clyne who is the original anti-scammer consigliere and Inna runs a real online Ukraine language school - she is married and was doing an interview with Conor in Kherson when an explosion outside her window forced her into the basement as a piss poor air raid shelter - I am one of the most lethal mofos on this board and can spot a phooking Hairy Bosis or Philthy Pedro in a nanosecond - I even posted links to her school and Conor's YT Channel Interview.

I hope you Crimean Putinistas run into Stirlitz and he can give you an attitude correction with his AKM.  I am going to send him extra cash for bullets just because of you and your Evil heartless kindred spirit Afifi.

I can see mushroom clouds over Tallinn and Rotterdam soon...
Such a short temper. Half of my inlaws are just as much ph00ked as others on this board. Thats not including the parts living in Crimea they are reasonably safe for the time being.

Stirlitz and I have met and traveled together at my cost, I still hold good memories to that event. Despite his political views I wish him well and hopes he will survive his dealings with the Russian army (that will of course mean, Russians will loose their lives).

Short Phooking Temper???  WTF Good innocent people in Ukraine are Dying you heartless insulting moronic arsewipe.

Igor used to do virtual research for me and I paid him via MoneyGram.  When I show Igor your heartless souless moronic evil statements when I am trying to help both him a this innocent Lady who runs an online Ukraine language school - I am sure Igor will be as pissed off at you as I am and he is carrying an AKM in Odesa.

Anyone (Trolls you know who the eff you are) disparaging efforts to help people suffering in Ukraine and innocent civilians in Russia for that matter need to check your arsehole evil stupid comments - I do not make threats - I take action.  There are a lot of lethal Ukrainian Men who will be looking for vengeance when all this is over for the cost of a case of vodka and a box of bullets - just saying.

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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2022, 04:19:06 PM »
Cuffy,  my wife is making enquiries for you over in Ukraine, we sent some funds over there yesterday no problem, bank to bank, but I doubt that would be an option now in Kherson and even if it was, in an hours time it could all change, but leave it with us, might get an update tomorrow.

Chris I know you to be sharp in business and in life - I am more than willing to send you 100 Euros or USD Equiv and have you and your wife get it to Inna via her contacts - agree Kherson is a Clusterfook right now ...

100 Euros? Less fees? Not pushing the boat out, eh Cuffy? Aren’t you a multi millionaire biznizman and investor? Would that even buy lunch for you and a pal?
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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2022, 06:35:33 PM »
LOL Manny its a test to see if they get the cash... more to follow if it works...

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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2022, 07:24:29 PM »
I also have had massive problems with Australian Banks freezing my transfers to Ukraine this past week. I have spent around 6 hours of phone calls over the 7 days progressively getting individual accounts unblocked and transfers moving.  :censored: ing Banks just immediately blocked both Russia and Ukraine initially, and now it's a case of answer online questions, wait for "secure emails", and answer new questions, Get pissed off, call 3 times, provide proof of relationship and intimate questions, finally transfers actioned a week after they were needed.

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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2022, 10:44:38 PM »
Not wishing to antagonise anyone with this, but consideration/care should be the order of the day..

ATM's in many places in E Ukraine are empty and not being replenished..
Banks are restricting opening hours/business, with many/all banks in E Ukraine not opening at all..
Much of banks cash/other currencies was withdrawn to Kiev early last week, for safety, leaving many of them without large quantities of cash..
It is doubtful if money sent to a card in Ukraine could be withdrawn at this time..
As a by note, much of Ukraine's foreign currency was collected together and removed from the country 2 weeks ago..
This I have been informed of by various sources, and when thinking about it, it seems to make sense..

Kharkov and Mariupol have nothing working at this time, Banks nor ATM's, and I suspect the Kherson would be similarly affected..
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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2022, 01:11:39 AM »
Cuffy,  my wife is making enquiries for you over in Ukraine, we sent some funds over there yesterday no problem, bank to bank, but I doubt that would be an option now in Kherson and even if it was, in an hours time it could all change, but leave it with us, might get an update tomorrow.

Chris I know you to be sharp in business and in life - I am more than willing to send you 100 Euros or USD Equiv and have you and your wife get it to Inna via her contacts - agree Kherson is a Clusterfook right now ...

Mike, some of the cash machines in Kherson are working but they don't have cash, we can get money into Ukraine no problem, but we are trying to find a way to get it to Kherson, safe and secure, my SiL is working on it.

Over night some of our very close family friends in Zaporozhe who we meet 3 or 4 times a year both in Ukraine and the UK and only 5Km from the nuclear power plant are now in a perilous situation, we have been talking to their daughter this morning over here in the UK and she has a lot of family in that area, she is crying her eyes out. So, forgive me if this takes a bit longer than anticipated to try and work out as I have other things on my mind currently and have to wait for others to try and work things out.
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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2022, 12:52:10 PM »
Cuffy,  my wife is making enquiries for you over in Ukraine, we sent some funds over there yesterday no problem, bank to bank, but I doubt that would be an option now in Kherson and even if it was, in an hours time it could all change, but leave it with us, might get an update tomorrow.

Chris I know you to be sharp in business and in life - I am more than willing to send you 100 Euros or USD Equiv and have you and your wife get it to Inna via her contacts - agree Kherson is a Clusterfook right now ...

Mike, some of the cash machines in Kherson are working but they don't have cash, we can get money into Ukraine no problem, but we are trying to find a way to get it to Kherson, safe and secure, my SiL is working on it.

Over night some of our very close family friends in Zaporozhe who we meet 3 or 4 times a year both in Ukraine and the UK and only 5Km from the nuclear power plant are now in a perilous situation, we have been talking to their daughter this morning over here in the UK and she has a lot of family in that area, she is crying her eyes out. So, forgive me if this takes a bit longer than anticipated to try and work out as I have other things on my mind currently and have to wait for others to try and work things out.

Chris you and your wife are the best you are doing God's work and your hearts are in the right place so very grateful for your help and current intel about what might work...  I will let you know what works with IGOR bloody damn MoneyGram app requiring IANA number AND UA Tax IDs surprising how many folks have one or the other but not both...  So plan B and C is PayPal even though they are stealing $8 per $100 sent or better a MetaMask Wallet on a Cell Phone and saving recovery words to encrypted protonmail.com accounts in Switzerland so if Phone Stolen by Russian Soldiers or lost in chaos - they can just install a new MetaMask Crypto wallet and reenter recovery key words on a new cheap Chinese android smartphone and they are back in business.  Igor is tech savvy so will try MetaMask to MetaMask P2P of audited Coinbase USDC Crypto USD Stable coins or others - once Cryptos on his smartphone MetaMask Wallet it is like cash can send to other wallets to buy stuff...  All the best Chris and thanks to your wife as well.

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Re: Men sending money to women in Ukraine
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2022, 12:56:13 PM »
Recent Coinbase Newsletter article might help...

What is crypto’s role in Ukraine?

Crypto donations pour into Ukraine as the country resists Russian invasion

As Ukraine continues to resist Russia’s full-scale invasion, international sanctions begin to hobble the Russian economy, Russian president Vladimir Putin has resorted to nuclear saber-rattling, and global markets have whipsawed. On Monday, oil prices reached over $100 per barrel for the first time since 2014, and the Russian Ruble lost 30% of its value against the dollar, plummeting to record lows. For Ukrainians, emergency economic measures — including cash withdrawal limits (about $3,350 per day) — have prompted the country’s government, citizens, and even newspapers to call for crypto aid. Let’s take a closer look at some ways crypto is assisting during a time of crisis.

Last November, The New York Times described Ukrainians as among the “most avid cryptocurrency users in the world,” and they rank fourth in Chainalysis’ 2021 Global Crypto Adoption Index. Why? A combination of factors — from high inflation to a widespread lack of trust in local banks. Ukraine is also a highly tech-forward nation, with an IT export business worth almost $7 billion last year. Ukraine also adopted a progressive bill last September, enabling the government to regulate crypto.
Why it matters… Ukrainians are using crypto to defend themselves from Russia’s invasion, protect their wealth, and fund their escapes to neighboring nations. In one sobering tweet, a citizen explained: “My Ukrainian credit cards don’t work anymore. I’m safe physically in Kazakhstan, but all my savings are gone. Crypto is the only money I still have, and today I can say without exaggeration that $BTC, $ETH and #NFT are going to save my life while I can’t come back home.”

This seems to be the only viable solution cell phone (Or PC) metamask wallet to cell phone (Or PC) metamask wallet...

Bloody damned idiots at Visa and MC western banks now de-facto starving people of Ukraine through overlapping Visa/MC sanctions of both RU & UA...

Crypto P2P wallet to wallet has no idiot Bank or Gov intermediaries and just works.


 

 

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