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sending money
« on: February 25, 2022, 11:04:23 AM »
Conisidering the circumstances in Ukraine,
does anyone see a way of sending money to Ukraine
in the near future?

I expect many folks to need help in coming days, weeks and maybe months.
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Re: sending money
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2022, 11:15:54 AM »
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Re: sending money
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2022, 01:03:11 PM »
Conisidering the circumstances in Ukraine,
does anyone see a way of sending money to Ukraine
in the near future?

I expect many folks to need help in coming days, weeks and maybe months.

Wise works, as I understand it. 

I sent some $$$ to an American friend of mine, but I sent it to his US bank account.

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Re: sending money
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2022, 01:08:39 PM »
Conisidering the circumstances in Ukraine,
does anyone see a way of sending money to Ukraine
in the near future?

I expect many folks to need help in coming days, weeks and maybe months.

If you use Wise and use this link you get the first transfer up to £500 fee free.
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Re: sending money
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2022, 07:55:54 PM »
Manny where is your wise link???  When I had a virtual assistant in Odessa I sent USD by moneygram no problem... not sure if that works now?


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Re: sending money
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2022, 08:13:45 PM »
Manny where is your wise link???  When I had a virtual assistant in Odessa I sent USD by moneygram no problem... not sure if that works now?

The Wise link is directly under this post and for that matter every post. They used to be called TransferWise.

The system works well and is supper fast. The fees are low. What I have wondered are they operating outside the Swift system/program.
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Re: sending money
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2022, 08:23:24 AM »
Manny, remember I tried setting up wise before
and it refused letting me do it, have not tried since.
I will try setting it up again, thanks.

We managed to send some yesterday and they got it.
I guess time will tell whats possible in near future.

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Re: sending money
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2022, 09:44:00 AM »

Banks in Ukraine are closed. When they open up, I suspect they will limit the amount of money people can withdraw.
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Re: sending money
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2022, 10:15:47 AM »
Manny where is your wise link??? 

>>HERE<< Cuffy.
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Re: sending money
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2022, 10:18:58 AM »
Keep in mind folks, people and organizations like to prey on those seeking love or wanting to help others. People high on emotions don't think clearly. Be careful donating to any charitable organization that claim 100% of the donations will go to Ukrainians.
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Re: sending money
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2022, 10:22:16 AM »
Keep in mind folks, people and organizations like to prey on those seeking love or wanting to help others. People high on emotions don't think clearly. Be careful donating to any charitable organization that claims 100% of the donations will go to Ukrainians.

I agree with that. I've seen quite a few Gofundme and other links spread about on Twitter. I'd bet almost none of that money gets there. I bet scammers are having a field day, including lots of women (Fat Yuri) emailing blokes with sob stories.

And I'd be cautious about using Gofundme in any event since they tried to steal the money for the Canadian truckers.
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Re: sending money
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2022, 01:23:27 PM »
We are sending directly to people we know,
so know fears of that here.
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Re: sending money
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2022, 02:18:09 PM »
We are sending directly to people we know,
so know fears of that here.

Please advise how you sent directly...  My concern with MoneyGram and Western Union besides high fees is that the offices tend to be in working-class and student areas that need cash from family etc... these areas can be targets for mugger predators to steal the cash on the street in the middle of war chaos, especially with free AK-47s flooding Ukraine cities could just be a new generation of desperate heavily armed muggers.

As for Wise I get sending USD to Euros no different then sending cryptos - do they just spend directly from their cell phones WeChat style or do they have to go to a bank to withdraw Euros or Hrivna - assume Euros best since EU is the primary bug out location.  Not sure if Chairman Putin will allow hrivnas in UA and likely to allow only RU Rubs.

There are two ladies in Kiev I am trying to help - they asked me to help their Army - one thought the western Media was hysterical that invasion talk was just propaganda so she basically seems to be in shock now.

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Re: sending money
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2022, 03:58:10 PM »
We are sending directly to people we know,
so know fears of that here.

Please advise how you sent directly...  My concern with MoneyGram and Western Union besides high fees is that the offices tend to be in working-class and student areas that need cash from family etc... these areas can be targets for mugger predators to steal the cash on the street in the middle of war chaos, especially with free AK-47s flooding Ukraine cities could just be a new generation of desperate heavily armed muggers.

As for Wise I get sending USD to Euros no different then sending cryptos - do they just spend directly from their cell phones WeChat style or do they have to go to a bank to withdraw Euros or Hrivna - assume Euros best since EU is the primary bug out location.  Not sure if Chairman Putin will allow hrivnas in UA and likely to allow only RU Rubs.

There are two ladies in Kiev I am trying to help - they asked me to help their Army - one thought the western Media was hysterical that invasion talk was just propaganda so she basically seems to be in shock now.

We sent western union, One of Alion's best friend works in bank, fairly high up.
She called manager and arrange to go in yesterday to get money.
SO far now we have a way to do it, but who knows as this goes on.

Reports many bank machines out of money now, so as this goes, it all could become
more difficult. Today in Ukraine, they had intermitent internet.

Unfortunately things can change very quickly, so from here, will do what we can,
when needed.
There is nothing permanent except change.

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Re: sending money
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2022, 04:19:23 PM »
We are sending directly to people we know,
so know fears of that here.

Please advise how you sent directly...  My concern with MoneyGram and Western Union besides high fees is that the offices tend to be in working-class and student areas that need cash from family etc... these areas can be targets for mugger predators to steal the cash on the street in the middle of war chaos, especially with free AK-47s flooding Ukraine cities could just be a new generation of desperate heavily armed muggers.

As for Wise I get sending USD to Euros no different then sending cryptos - do they just spend directly from their cell phones WeChat style or do they have to go to a bank to withdraw Euros or Hrivna - assume Euros best since EU is the primary bug out location.  Not sure if Chairman Putin will allow hrivnas in UA and likely to allow only RU Rubs.

There are two ladies in Kiev I am trying to help - they asked me to help their Army - one thought the western Media was hysterical that invasion talk was just propaganda so she basically seems to be in shock now.

We sent western union, One of Alion's best friend works in bank, fairly high up.
She called manager and arrange to go in yesterday to get money.
SO far now we have a way to do it, but who knows as this goes on.

Reports many bank machines out of money now, so as this goes, it all could become
more difficult. Today in Ukraine, they had intermitent internet.

Unfortunately things can change very quickly, so from here, will do what we can,
when needed.

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Re: sending money
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2022, 08:01:30 PM »
And I'd be cautious about using Gofundme in any event since they tried to steal the money for the Canadian truckers.

They didn't steal the money.  The refunded it to donors, minus their administration fee.

Please advise how you sent directly...  My concern with MoneyGram and Western Union besides high fees is that the offices tend to be in working-class and student areas that need cash from family etc... these areas can be targets for mugger predators to steal the cash on the street in the middle of war chaos, especially with free AK-47s flooding Ukraine cities could just be a new generation of desperate heavily armed muggers.

I don't know about Western Union, but MoneyGram is all over Kyiv.  A lot of banks all over Kyiv have MoneyGram.
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Re: sending money
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2022, 04:00:14 AM »
And I'd be cautious about using Gofundme in any event since they tried to steal the money for the Canadian truckers.

They didn't steal the money.  The refunded it to donors, minus their administration fee.

Please advise how you sent directly...  My concern with MoneyGram and Western Union besides high fees is that the offices tend to be in working-class and student areas that need cash from family etc... these areas can be targets for mugger predators to steal the cash on the street in the middle of war chaos, especially with free AK-47s flooding Ukraine cities could just be a new generation of desperate heavily armed muggers.

I don't know about Western Union, but MoneyGram is all over Kyiv.  A lot of banks all over Kyiv have MoneyGram.
thank you, will look at every option going forward.
So many unknowns at this point.
Hopefully, money, food and other essentials are
available.
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Re: sending money
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2022, 10:12:15 AM »
I bet scammers are having a field day, including lots of women (Fat Yuri) emailing blokes with sob stories.

There are two ladies in Kiev I am trying to help - they asked me to help their Army - one thought the western Media was hysterical that invasion talk was just propaganda so she basically seems to be in shock now.

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Read a trip report from North Korea >>here<<

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Putin often threatens to strike US with nuclear weapons.

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Re: sending money
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2022, 10:13:20 AM »
And I'd be cautious about using Gofundme in any event since they tried to steal the money for the Canadian truckers.

They didn't steal the money.  The refunded it to donors, minus their administration fee.

I said tried. Which is true.
Read a trip report from North Korea >>here<<

Look what the American media makes some people believe:
Putin often threatens to strike US with nuclear weapons.

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Re: sending money
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2022, 12:28:07 PM »
Wise worked well for me to send funds to (Visa/Master) cards of various banks in Ukraine, Russia, Moldova in the past. Useful when your regular bank cards don't work and you're out of cash for whatever reason.

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Re: sending money
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2022, 12:49:01 PM »
Keep in mind folks, people and organizations like to prey on those seeking love or wanting to help others. People high on emotions don't think clearly. Be careful donating to any charitable organization that claims 100% of the donations will go to Ukrainians.

I agree with that. I've seen quite a few Gofundme and other links spread about on Twitter. I'd bet almost none of that money gets there. I bet scammers are having a field day, including lots of women (Fat Yuri) emailing blokes with sob stories.

And I'd be cautious about using Gofundme in any event since they tried to steal the money for the Canadian truckers.

Gofundme has become a Deep State tool. They'll shut down any fund of those who have an agenda against the Deep State. The Canadian government wants to seize protestors assets. All they want is to not be forced to take an experimental vaccine. If you guys don't know how 1930's Germany became 1940's Germany, you're seeing it in action. The Jews didn't want the experimental drugs either. The Nuremburg trials were supposed to protect humanity from this happening ever again but apparently the Deep State is bringing this sh!t back with force.


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Re: sending money
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2022, 02:33:26 PM »
Ok so I tried to send a test of $100 USD via the MoneyGram app and the Lady I am trying to help in KYIV said she was a grad student and did not have an IBAN number -or- Tax Id number required by the MoneyGram app for intl $$$ to UA xfers... so she asked me to use her PayPal ...

She kept wanting to chat by telegram but it is a Russian app I do not plan to use - not because I do not like Russia - I admire Putin for standing up to the NATO Rainbow Manny Tranny phooking Globalists - but the Rooskies and Red Chinese Commies are among the world's best hackers... so not using their bloody apps.

So she sent me her https://www.paypal.me/"blabla" link and I connected one of my credit union visa accounts to my new personal (not biz) PayPal app account and tried to send a $100 test via phooking Paypal which had an $8.00 fee versus MoneyGram Apps $2.00 fee so 400% more and...

Then to my astonishment:

Why does your<PayPal> account default to payment in RUSSIAN Rubles?

about 43 minutes ago
Виктория АлаBlaBlaBla
@blabla
You send
100.00
USD
Recipient gets
9299.42
RUB
Your payment will be received in rubles.
Conversion rate: 1 USD = 92.9942 RUB


This rate includes a currency conversion spread. The amount you’ll pay may change as we lock in your rate, so check your final amount and fee details before you send.
about 42 minutes ago

I then wrote: I tried to change from Rubles to Euros but PayPal will only let me send You Russian Rubles - I tried but I am not sending Russian Rubles for obvious reasons...

I caught some attitude and charged it off to her being exhausted late at night in Kiev

But bloody Phooking PlayMePal phone app and pc web page would not allow me to change from Rubles to Euros which in my estimation is most likely not to crash in value and zero out buying power like the Rubles or Hryvna  - So the prior scammed Blue Pill White Knight in me almost nuked here phooking account as a lying scammer thief and decided to bounce it off here as I can see no valid reason why phooking PlayMePal would only allow me to Send her USD converted into Russian Rubles and Nothing Else unless "she" is being geo-ipadx-limited to Ru-Rubs because she is actually Hairy Phook Boris in Rooskie Scammer land...

But thought I would get a second opinion first - at this rate I will demand a Skype to Skype live call to make sure she is not really Bearded Boris...

Yes her bikini shots in Phuket were quite hot and if a real woman and truly studying to be a pediatrician I fully intended to convert her into my first baby momma...  several times over - so I am not being completely altruistic here - as Lord Afi condescended to me in another thread this could be my last chance to rescue one of these ladies from the misery of the modern FSUW Russian Starvation Diet plan...   

:smokin: tiphat :thumbsup:


Anyways at nearly 100 Rubs to a $Buck - might be worth going on one of StP Steves Babushka matchmaking tours when all the dust settles after this shite storm...

Any of you PayPal experts know how to send Euros instead of Rubs here???  The last thing I am going to do is send Russian Rubles as I do not need the NSA or CIA canceling my bank accounts like Canada just did to trucker donors on gofwakme...

Clearly NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED...