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Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« on: February 14, 2022, 04:54:42 PM »
And Trudeau is claiming emergency powers.


https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-60356212

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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2022, 07:11:07 PM »
Tucker Carlson: https://twitter.com/tuckercarlson/status/1493402781574746115?s=21

I’m curious what our resident Canadians think about this.
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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2022, 07:29:12 PM »
If Trudeau unleashes the RCMP on peaceful protesters it will, I hope, END HIM.  He is a snotty, elitist prick who is learning that nobody likes him very much

How bad is it?  He can only look up at Biden's awful approval numbers with envy.

He also got booed out of Question Time in Parliament, although Speaker Rota disingenuously claimed that the opposition was booing John Barlow (MP - Foothills), which they were clearly were not, they were booing the fatuous tw*t, Trudeau.

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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2022, 01:52:04 AM »
First, Trudeau has not declared martial law.

Second, something had to be done.  I have no issues with this, in terms of clearing the border, and despite the provinces saying they can deal with this, they haven't.  It's a huge issue in Ontario, and blocking the border affects the livelihoods and pocketbooks of hundreds of thousands, even millions, of Canadians. 

Trudeau had to take action because his government's in a minority position and the Liberals will only remain in power if he wins voters in Toronto.  Bay Street is not happy with the effects the border blockade has had on businesses.

There have been protests in my city for the past three weekends.  I don't know why they continue, given some restrictions have already ended, and the rest are ending by March 1.  The protestors have been annoying, but they've been relatively peaceful.  I do resent having to pour police dollars into this idiocy.
 The protest have not, however, been peaceful at border crossings, where threats have been made against police, counterprotestors, and businesses.  It's also not the case in Ottawa, where protestors harassed workers and residents of a homeless shelter, have blasted horns, disturbing residents for 16 hours a day, have chased downtown residents going about their daysm heckled and followied those who choose to wear masks (which is still the law in Ontario).  They're bullies, and they need to be dealt with under the full force of the law. 
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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2022, 10:09:16 AM »
First, Trudeau has not declared martial law.

Second, something had to be done.  I have no issues with this, in terms of clearing the border, and despite the provinces saying they can deal with this, they haven't.  It's a huge issue in Ontario, and blocking the border affects the livelihoods and pocketbooks of hundreds of thousands, even millions, of Canadians. 

Trudeau had to take action because his government's in a minority position and the Liberals will only remain in power if he wins voters in Toronto.  Bay Street is not happy with the effects the border blockade has had on businesses.

There have been protests in my city for the past three weekends.  I don't know why they continue, given some restrictions have already ended, and the rest are ending by March 1.  The protestors have been annoying, but they've been relatively peaceful.  I do resent having to pour police dollars into this idiocy.
 The protest have not, however, been peaceful at border crossings, where threats have been made against police, counterprotestors, and businesses.  It's also not the case in Ottawa, where protestors harassed workers and residents of a homeless shelter, have blasted horns, disturbing residents for 16 hours a day, have chased downtown residents going about their daysm heckled and followied those who choose to wear masks (which is still the law in Ontario).  They're bullies, and they need to be dealt with under the full force of the law.


What a surprise! Lot's of fake news and disinformation in this post. "They need to be dealt with under the full force of the law" is a rather telling pronouncement. Just who is the bully? The person who believes government disinformation and wants her fellow citizens harmed by government storm troopers? Or hard-working Truckers who believe they have a right to protest against tyranny?

Now here is some truth for those who like truth. Those who believe that the Ministry of Peace should conduct War against their fellow citizens can believe the dishonest corrupt corporate media and the sycophants.

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In fact, the JCCF says:

"According to affidavit evidence filed in the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, the Freedom Convoy has been working closely with the Ottawa Police Service, the RCMP, and the Parliamentary Protective Service. It was one of the Freedom Convoy truckers who reported to police a property damage offence and an assault, committed by individuals not affiliated with the truckers.

Preliminary data shows that street crime has actually fallen since the Freedom Convoy arrived at the Parliament in Ottawa. And contrary to politicians’ claims that protesters are stealing food from the homeless, the JCCF states that

One of the witnesses in the court action has stated under oath that truckers and their supporters “are feeding the homeless on Wellington Street and filling their backpacks with food. Truckers have taken a whole trailer full of food to the homeless shelter."

https://mises.org/wire/report-canada-regime-lying-about-truckers

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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2022, 10:46:32 AM »

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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2022, 10:57:21 AM »
When the border is blocked, yes, absolutely, they need to be dealt with, with the full force of the law.  I would have liked that with pipeline protestors as well, and eventually, they were forcibly removed and arrested.

Of course crime has gone down - when you have hundreds of people blocking the streets and harrassing passersby, criminals aren't going to appear.  But neither can ordinary residents.  So, that doesn't make their appearance a good thing.  There are a lot of apartment buildings and historic homes in downtown Ottawa.  Harrassing those residents to the point they not only file an injunction against you (which was granted), but also a class action lawsuit, suggests the narrative you have presented is false.

Oh, and it isn't the "regime" reporting on the truckers.  It is media.  Even "right wing" media here (National Post) has reported the same.
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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2022, 11:01:15 AM »
Wow I thought Halo moved to Canada to live under a liberal freedom and liberty based democracy - instead she shows her Communist inspired tendencies she was raised under to resort to TRYANNY over LIBERTY - suppressing real grievances and legal protests is what leads to Banana Republic revolutions and Military Juntas.


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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2022, 11:33:31 AM »
Canada is based on the rule of law and POGG (peace, order and good government).  The latter is enshrined in our constitution.

There is no "liberty" in people blockading our borders for weeks, thereby restricting truckers who merely want to do their jobs and deliver goods, from being able to do so.  There's no "liberty" in throwing thousands of hardworking Canadians out of work.  That's called "anarchy".  Incidentally, Trudeau's popularity is down not because of federal government policies on COVID border controls, but because of his failure to deal with the border crisis. 
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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2022, 01:12:37 PM »
When the border is blocked, yes, absolutely, they need to be dealt with, with the full force of the law.  I would have liked that with pipeline protestors as well, and eventually, they were forcibly removed and arrested.

Of course crime has gone down - when you have hundreds of people blocking the streets and harrassing passersby, criminals aren't going to appear.  But neither can ordinary residents.  So, that doesn't make their appearance a good thing.  There are a lot of apartment buildings and historic homes in downtown Ottawa.  Harrassing those residents to the point they not only file an injunction against you (which was granted), but also a class action lawsuit, suggests the narrative you have presented is false.

The article I posted above has eyewitnesses who tell a different story than that of the corrupt corporate media which you prefer:

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"Another witness, an Ottawa resident, swears that “the truckers I have interacted with have, at all times, been friendly, courteous, humble, considerate and peaceful. I have not observed any aggressive or inappropriate behaviours.” He says the truckers are diverse, including Sikhs, blacks, aboriginals and others. He has “observed truckers decorating the tomb of the unknown soldier with flowers and guarding it” and has “not seen any violent or threatening behaviour.” He notes that “the truckers do not honk their horns at night. My everyday life has not been disrupted by any noise related to the Freedom Convoy during the day.” He asserts: “My ability to park and to travel in downtown Ottawa, or to and from Parliament Hill has not been impeded by the presence of the truckers.”

Another Ottawa resident, who works for Statistics Canada, describes reality on the ground as follows:

The protesters were peaceful and respectful, I saw no violence or harassment. I was not impeded in any way, and could walk about freely and safely. I did not see any hateful symbols, in fact, I saw an abundance of Canada flags and Quebec flags as well as countless signs calling for freedom and the end of Covid related mandates. I did see some anti-Trudeau flags using harsh language. However, I would describe the scene as a peaceful, pro-freedom demonstration. My everyday life has not been disrupted by any noise related to the downtown demonstrations."


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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2022, 01:20:56 PM »
Oh, and it isn't the "regime" reporting on the truckers.  It is media.  Even "right wing" media here (National Post) has reported the same.


As there is a nexus between corrupt lawmakers who are on the take with Pfizer and the media, yes, it is more or less the regime reporting on the truckers.

This poster on Twitter has posted an excellent video whereby you can see all of the drug companies who sponsor the news. Obviously this is a huge conflict of interest.


https://twitter.com/_whitneywebb/status/1450464402000556039?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1450464402000556039%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.realclearpolitics.com%2Fvideo%2F2021%2F10%2F19%2Fmontage_pfizer_sponsors_news_abc_cbs_nbc_cnn.html

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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2022, 01:29:27 PM »
Meanwhile, this:
https://globalnews.ca/news/8620547/ccla-emergency-legislation-democracy-civil-liberties//?utm_medium=Twitter&utm_source=%40globalnews


This is a quote from the Canadian Civil Liberties Association. They do not approve of government overreach.

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"Governments regularly deal with difficult situations, and do so using powers granted to them by democratically elected representatives. Emergency legislation should not be normalized. It threatens our democracy and our civil liberties." #cdnpoli

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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2022, 01:32:36 PM »
The "fake news" -

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/moo-shu-ice-cream-employee-assaulted-ottawa-1.6341207

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/meet-the-21-year-old-ottawa-woman-who-stopped-the-horns-1.5772637

Zexi Li also was physically attacked on two occasions, which is part of why she decided to be the face of the injunction.

Another resident -

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“It’s the harassment we’ve faced over the last week. The noise harassment, the physical harassment, people not being able to go to work, people being harassed on the street for wearing masks,” said Erin, one counter-protester who did not want to give a last name due to fears of harassment.

“It’s not a peaceful protest. Everyone has a right to peaceful protest in Canada, and I support that right. But this isn’t a peaceful protest.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8597478/ottawa-trucker-convoy-risk-of-violence/

In my city, on the first weekend, truckers did attack masked people.  Since then, policing has stepped up, handing out fines, and as a result, they have mostly been peaceful.

You haven't seen them, you don't live here, you don't know what the mood is.  These are not individuals "fighting for freedom".  That's a ridiculous assertion.

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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2022, 01:43:46 PM »
The "fake news" -

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/moo-shu-ice-cream-employee-assaulted-ottawa-1.6341207

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/meet-the-21-year-old-ottawa-woman-who-stopped-the-horns-1.5772637

Zexi Li also was physically attacked on two occasions, which is part of why she decided to be the face of the injunction.

Another resident -

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“It’s the harassment we’ve faced over the last week. The noise harassment, the physical harassment, people not being able to go to work, people being harassed on the street for wearing masks,” said Erin, one counter-protester who did not want to give a last name due to fears of harassment.

“It’s not a peaceful protest. Everyone has a right to peaceful protest in Canada, and I support that right. But this isn’t a peaceful protest.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8597478/ottawa-trucker-convoy-risk-of-violence/

In my city, on the first weekend, truckers did attack masked people.  Since then, policing has stepped up, handing out fines, and as a result, they have mostly been peaceful.

You haven't seen them, you don't live here, you don't know what the mood is.  These are not individuals "fighting for freedom".  That's a ridiculous assertion.


Yes, #FakeNews and unsubstantiated allegations. Histrionics. I challenge anyone reading this thread to actually read what she just posted. Not a shred of proof that the person assaulted was assaulted by a Trucker. In fact I expect a real investigation by the Police to reveal that it was a member of Antifa, hoping to smear the reputation of peaceful Truckers pushing back against Covid Tyranny.

In fact the allegations being made remind me of the smear crime committed by Jesse Smollett, hoping to smear Trump supporters.

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In fact, the JCCF says:

"According to affidavit evidence filed in the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, the Freedom Convoy has been working closely with the Ottawa Police Service, the RCMP, and the Parliamentary Protective Service. It was one of the Freedom Convoy truckers who reported to police a property damage offence and an assault, committed by individuals not affiliated with the truckers.'

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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2022, 04:37:51 PM »
In fact, the JCCF says:

"According to affidavit evidence filed in the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, the Freedom Convoy has been working closely with the Ottawa Police Service, the RCMP, and the Parliamentary Protective Service. It was one of the Freedom Convoy truckers who reported to police a property damage offence and an assault, committed by individuals not affiliated with the truckers.

One of the witnesses in the court action has stated under oath that truckers and their supporters “are feeding the homeless on Wellington Street and filling their backpacks with food. Truckers have taken a whole trailer full of food to the homeless shelter."

But that goes against the "TRUKKERS BAAAAD!" narrative.


Preliminary data shows that street crime has actually fallen since the Freedom Convoy arrived at the Parliament in Ottawa. And contrary to politicians’ claims that protesters are stealing food from the homeless, the JCCF states that

Crime has fallen, except for the police stealing diesel jerry-cans and firewood from people in FREEZING WEATHER.  (:)
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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2022, 09:53:27 PM »
Let history show that the first time the Emergency Powers Act was invoked, it was not against a foreign threat, it was not because Canada's sovereignty was threatened, it was against ordinary, everyday, working class Canadians to punish, coerce and threaten them, their livelihoods and freedoms, because they had the temerity to attempt to get redress from their democratically-elected and responsible to the people government, and a petty, entitle, elitist, snotball PM overreacted because he is fundamentally a weak, bitter, tyrant.

How bad is it?  Canada is getting dunked on by the President of El Salvador.

Trudeau must go.

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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2022, 10:33:59 PM »
Let history show that the first time the Emergency Powers Act was invoked, it was not against a foreign threat, it was not because Canada's sovereignty was threatened, it was against ordinary, everyday, working class Canadians to punish, coerce and threaten them, their livelihoods and freedoms, because they had the temerity to attempt to get redress from their democratically-elected and responsible to the people government, and a petty, entitle, elitist, snotball PM overreacted because he is fundamentally a weak, bitter, tyrant.

How bad is it?  Canada is getting dunked on by the President of El Salvador.

Trudeau must go.

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He's become a fatuous twat, hasn't he?  :ROFL:

Honestly someone just shared that word with me and I had to look it up.  :king:

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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2022, 02:02:27 AM »
The CCLA stated that normalizing the Emergencies Act would be a threat to civil liberties.  Invoking it is not "normalizing" the legislation.

The Emergencies Act defines a "national emergency" as:

an urgent and critical situation of a temporary nature that

(a) seriously endangers the lives, health or safety of Canadians and is of such proportions or nature as to exceed the capacity or authority of a province to deal with it, or

(b) seriously threatens the ability of the Government of Canada to preserve the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of Canada

and that cannot be effectively dealt with under any other law of Canada.


This situation qualifies under subsection 3(a). 

A motion has to be put before Parliament within seven days of a national emergency being declared.  All the provinces have to be consulted.

The legislation only remains in effect for 90 days.  On expiration, a judicial inquiry must be held with respect to use of the legislation.  Again, I have no issues with this, given the magnitude of trade that has been disrupted at the Windsor border crossing. 

Canadians overwhelmingly do not support the truckers, because of the effects their protest is having in disrupting the lives of the average Canadian.  Even those sympathetic to their cause do not support them.

In other news, the truckers on the border in my province disbanded after several were found with both legal and illegal weapons, ammunition, high capacity magainzes (illegal), and  body armour (illegal here). 
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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2022, 02:12:49 AM »
But that goes against the "TRUKKERS BAAAAD!" narrative.

Crime has fallen, except for the police stealing diesel jerry-cans and firewood from people in FREEZING WEATHER.  (:)

Crime has fallen because the truckers displaced the homeless and drug addicted.  Remember, most crime in Canada is property crime.  There is relatively little crime against persons.

Homeless shelters reported truckers harassing their staff and clients in Ottawa.  So yes, that did occur.  I know of people who were harassed in my city on the first weekend of the protests.  One person I know was assaulted.  They have a visceral reaction to anyone who is masked.  People here, mostly Asians, always wore masks before COVID even existed.  It's not new, and if a person wants to wear a mask now, or in the future, no one should be attacking them for that.  That stopped because the police.  I will continue to mask once restrictions are lifted, probably until Omicron dies out.  I am not particulary concerned, but I find it makes store workers feel more protected. 

It's -13C in Ottawa right now.  Cold, but very manageable.  No one needs diesel fuel to combat the weather.

As for Trudeau, his poll numbers were down because he wasn't doing anything vis a vis the truckers.  It will be interesting to see if they rebound once the borders are opened. 

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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2022, 03:54:31 AM »
Many fringe groups have piled on to protest, that have nothing to do with truckers or thier issues.
TRudeau refused to meet with leaders of the Truckers groups in early days of this protest,
which may have solved or helped the situation. He lookks down on these folks

This lastest move, will only make this worse and with longer effects, even after the truckers leave.
Whats funny is the hundreds of millions in affect's to economy are mostly because these truckers
are not moving goods.
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Re: Trudeau Declares Martial Law
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2022, 09:13:13 AM »
This article says that the Trucker protests are winding down. Those spoiled persons who are upset because they didn't get their western goods as fast as usual are going to be even more disappointed years from now when they realize that the Covid mandates are just a prelude to digital currencies and then Chinese like social media discrimination.

Those Truckers represent one of the last groups in the West pushing back against tyranny and they get criticized by the usual suspects and falsely accused of petty crimes on top of it.


https://www.ttnews.com/articles/trucker-protests-canada-continue-wind-down

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« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2022, 09:19:14 AM »
Senator Rand Paul encourages truckers in the USA to mount similar protests.


https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/594005-sen-rand-paul-on-trucker-convoys-protesting-in-us-im-all-for-it

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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2022, 09:21:48 AM »
Trudeau isn't going to do this because he's a snobbish prick, but his half-brother Kyle Kemper recommended him to:

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“To Justin I have a simple message: ‘Go talk with the people. Engage versus enrage.’”


https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-trudeaus-half-brother-gives-the-pm-an-earful


 

 

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