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Russia's ultimatum to the West
« on: December 29, 2021, 10:50:11 AM »
Russia's ultimatum to the West: what happens
if it does not accept Russia's ultimatum ?

By Irina Alksnis Ria Novosti.ru 20/12/2021



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For quite a few years now a political meme has been popular in Russia : "We criticize the president not for being too Putin, but for not being Putin enough." The salt of the joke is obvious - while supporting the policy of the national leader, many Russian citizens would like him to often act more harshly, decisively and harshly.

Putin's trademark restraint, a tendency to step-by-step decisions and the search for compromises, the ability not to get lost in emotions in situations where you want to rip and throw, command respect, but at the same time, certain forces are interpreted as weakness, and sometimes even as a betrayal of national interests. This is especially true of foreign policy issues, in which, according to the turbopatriots, the Russian president has been showing outrageous gentleness and indecision for many years.


Fortunately, most of the country's citizens themselves are well aware of the wisdom and strategic correctness of Putin's approach. However, as a result, any situation when Moscow suddenly abandons restrained and pacifying rhetoric and makes this or that demarche makes one nervous - because this is always a sign of extraordinary circumstances, behind which one can expect the most unexpected events and radical changes.

Last Friday, Russia did just that - it is no coincidence that in the comments of experts on the draft agreements with the US and NATO published by the Foreign Ministry , such formulations as the "red line" and even "ultimatum" regularly appear , and in some places uncertainty and anxiety are felt in the intonations.

And for good reason. The Russian state did what was wanted of it - and some political forces even demanded - for many years. But this step is so contrary to the traditional line of our foreign policy that it is a clear signal that something out of the ordinary is happening. And since we are talking about military issues, there are even more reasons to tense up and get nervous.

The situation is aggravated by the fact that for almost eight years now, Russia's relations with the West have been a series of acute crises. The toxic foreign policy environment with shrill accusations of all sins in Moscow has become so commonplace that one has to look retroactively for an explanation of why this step has been taken by the state leadership at the moment. Why not half a year ago, when media-political hysteria was also raging in the West, accusing our country of aggressive intentions towards Ukraine ? Why not after the Skripal case, or the Boeing shot down over Donbass , or accusations of us in chemical attacks in Syria ? Why now? What has changed and what to expect next?

Of course, the answer to this question has many layers and different aspects.
However, it seems that the determining factor this time was not so much Russia's relations with the West, but the global situation - and mainly not in politics, but in the economy. Because the very essence of the global hegemony of the United States and its European allies is concentrated in the economic sphere - they are the main beneficiaries of the existing system, receiving bonuses from it that are disproportionate to their contribution.
So, perhaps, the main event of the outgoing 2021 was the transition to the open phase of the global crisis that was rolling on the planet, and its deployment began in the West itself.
The financial and regulatory structures of the United States and European countries no longer assure their citizens that high inflation is short-lived and soon everything will return to normal. Production and logistics chains are torn, commodity shortages for an increasing number of positions are becoming an everyday part of life. The energy sector is covered by the crisis, and energy prices are breaking records, which is increasingly affecting the wallets of citizens. Agricultural experts are horrified to predict the onset of a global food crisis in the new year due to an acute shortage of fertilizers. Bubbles are inflating in the world's major stock markets. The list of problems can be continued for a long time.



Who got 226 trillion: everyone will have to pay

Sometimes the opinion is heard that there is nothing unique about what is happening - after all, cyclical recessions are an integral part of economic life.For example, the 1970s were economically very difficult for the West, which was then living with high inflation for years - those indicators, by the way, have not yet been achieved. And during the crisis of 2008-2009, there were enough "cassandras" that predicted the inevitable collapse of the dollar, but everything was more or less successfully resolved.

In a standard situation, these arguments would indeed be impressive. But the problem is that we live in a completely non-standard situation: the global economic system has completely exhausted its potential for development in a normal format. Now, every year, every month and even every day of maintaining the status quo, the West, as the main beneficiary, must resort to emergency measures. Chief among these was the quantitative easing policy launched just to overcome the 2008-2009 crisis and postponing (but not canceling) the collapse of the West-centric system. Moreover, a common opinion among economists is the belief that by this step the West not only delayed the inevitable, but also guaranteed an even greater catastrophic future collapse.
In fact, high inflation and the other problems mentioned above are just a sign that the colossal money supply poured into the world economy and unsupported by anything is getting out of the control of the regulatory bodies of Europe and the United States. The situation is now developing in accordance with its own logic, which simply ignores the administrative measures of the responsible structures.

If so, then Russia (as well as China and other powers working to transform the world system) faces a double challenge.
On the one hand, they face a window of opportunity to accelerate the overthrow of the United States from the global throne by increasing pressure on them. Since, although the weakening of the West has been going on for a long time, the crisis phenomena that have manifested itself indicate that the process has moved to a qualitatively new level, which means that it is foolish not to take advantage of the chance.
This is all the more relevant, since our side has actually completed the process of creating our own - alternative to the Western - strategic mechanisms and procedures necessary for the smooth functioning of the national economy and relations with other countries. Be it the production of goods, the movement of funds, cash settlements, the dissemination of information, the alignment of interests, and much, much more.


On the other hand, the current situation sharply increases the risks, including the military, because, as you know, a cornered beast becomes especially dangerous. And given the degradation of Western elites, most of whom have never personally faced difficult challenges and know nothing but a smooth armchair career, it is impossible to exclude openly inadequate decisions and steps on their part.
If we consider Moscow's initiatives from this point of view, it becomes obvious that the published draft treaties with the United States and NATO , like the statements of our officials, are aimed at solving both problems at once.

First, both in essence and in form, they are not proposals for discussion, but really an ultimatum - a demand for unconditional surrender. They simply do not envision a good way out for the West without losing face - well, except to proudly stand firmly and eventually unleash a war with Russia. Judging by what kind of throwing began from the other side, they are quite aware of this there.

And secondly, it is precisely the maximum emphasis on military issues and the unprecedentedly harsh official rhetoric of Moscow that emphasize that Russia is ready - both morally and technically, and in all other senses - for any development of events. And the reputation earned in previous years confirms that it will not rust for the Russians to actually use weapons - if they deem it necessary.
Here it is worth recalling the words of Vladimir Putin , who bluntly stated in the summer that if Russia had sunk a British destroyer that staged a provocation off the coast of Crimea, this would not entail any large-scale consequences: do not consider the screams in the world press as such.Undoubtedly, at the moment, the Western General Staffs are frantically furling NATO military facilities and plans of operations near the Russian borders, realizing that if Moscow considers any of this an anti-Russian provocation and "takes measures", then it will not become a casus belli - but on the other hand will make the alliance get out of there, tail between its legs.
In general, Russia's tough pressure on the military direction is aimed at cooling the hottest heads in the West, who probably thinks that the use of military methods against our country can be an excellent way to overcome the global crisis - at Russian expense. How it turned out as a result of the First and Second World Wars in the last century.



No, this time the West will pay itself.
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Re: Russia's ultimatum to the West
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2021, 03:18:44 PM »
Wisdom of the Ancients Comparison of USA China and Rossiya based upon the Five Elements of Sucess for any and all human endeavors Business, Politics and War:

USA  CCP  RF

X     X      OK       1.  A Morally Just Cause  -China Mass Genocide Organ Harvesting
                                                     -USA Mass Bribery Dem Socialists of USA/Bidens etc
                                                    - Russia Putin loves his People and is an RU MRGA Patriot

X     OK   OK        2.  A competent and Effective Leader  - China - YES
                                                                          - USA Are You Effing Kidding me - NO!
                                                                          - RU - Putin still 80% Approval

X     OK   OK        3.  A disciplined organization/military that knows their roles and follows
                               orders effectively.   - China - Ultra Disciplined 4M Man Military - YES
                                                            - RU - YES smaller but patriotic and effective
                Military with big fast Nukes that work and the reason UA fooked - no noooks...
                                                            - USA - Get Woke Go Broke-  Biden CCP DoD traitors destroying USA military readiness and effectiveness after Patriot Trump's buildup.  Biden DoD forcing US Troops to March while carrying Rainbow and BLM flags is very damaging to morale.  Xi and Putin laughing their arses off at DoD Sec Austin and the Biden Soros CCP Suckups.


X    OK   OK         4.  Deep knowledge of the cycles and seasons of life and the importance of Military Victory vs Defeats,   Xi and Putin very aware - Biden and his circle of Liberal Socialist Military Service Shirkers are beyond clueless and have (intentionally) created a great time to test or even attack the USA - fortunately most of our combat Veterans are Armed and Ready and organized through sporting Hunt clubs and loosely defined networks (Fish and Game Clubs - Cigar Sports Bars etc) with 500 Million Weapons included highly accurate long range Hunting Rifles for Deer, Moose, Elk, Bears and Communists...  Which is why the CCP is trying to take over the USA via spreading Marxist Socialist Communist Bernie Bros and AOC Hoes Ideology.

OK   OK   OK       5.  A great and continuously growing War chest based upon Cash AND Commodities Reserves
                              - China cornered world supply of Rare Earths and key Commodities
                              - RU the Periodic Table of Elements world reserves in the ground.
                              - USA both Energy and Agri Rich and World Reserves great wealth especially when combined with Nuclear Umbrella Dependent States Mexico and Canada and why even Can-Libs warning about China's extraordinary influence campaigns and commodities mining and growing lands purchases across all the Americas; North, Central and South.

The only Good News about the Beijing Biden Psycho Leftist Marxist Democrat Progressives (Communists) party is they have managed to graphically show and demonstrate to Liberal Dems, Moderate Dems, Independents and Republican Patriots voters how totally incompetent the deviant, diabolical, degenerate Anti-Christs Leftists really are and how bad the Donkey Dumbocrats are going to get their ASSes kicked (Pun Intended) in 2022 AND 2024.

America will be SAVED and Become Great Again as the Lord God and Universe Commands.

 

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Re: Russia's ultimatum to the West
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2021, 08:32:09 PM »
Poor Putin. He is being picked on by the USA again. According to RT news we might send little girls like this one to beat up his army.  :ROFL:



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Re: Russia's ultimatum to the West
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2021, 08:47:31 PM »
Poor Putin. He is being picked on by the USA again. According to RT news we might send little girls like this one to beat up his army.  :ROFL:


You really aren't too bright on this issue.

Germany had the best Army on planet Earth and they were beat by the Russians and the rest of the Soviet Union.

So was Napoleon.

And you really think that our military, the same military that was screwed over by the actions of Biden in Afghanistan, can beat Russia?  :'(
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Re: Russia's ultimatum to the West
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2021, 11:14:17 PM »
Contrarian

Don't waste you time talking to these ignoramus who did not made any comments about what Irina in the article is claiming....

It is clear that RUA is full of trolls wha have nothing intelligent to post.

I have no intentions answering to these ignoramus, got better things to do with my life.
I will only joint IF and when I see any serious comments.



Amazing that people like Cuffy and Texan have not enough memory to think what Putin did in Chechnya, when he become PM of Russia, which is thriving today, what he did in Georgia, where the American created a revolution and Georgia it's still under their control but..... life style has not improved and Georgia's ex-president Mikheil Saakashvili  had to get out of the country!

Finaly what about Crimea and Ukraine?  What the American's did to help. America created the revolution of 2014 and in Ukrainian/Russian Donbass more than 10,000 people have died. and then USA is still try to get they can out of Ukraine. NO NATO, NO EU, NO Money!

I suggest people to read the comments on the original article I posted and educate themselves.
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Re: Russia's ultimatum to the West
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2021, 10:01:56 AM »
LOL The Wizz-Butt-Banger going full-in Greek Way Again... If the Wizz-Butt-Banger was able to pull his Phat Marxist Head out of his Phatter Anarchists Arse for even a microsecond and actually had the depth of understanding to comprehend the wisdom of the ancients he would realize how critical my Post was of the New Beijing Biden Woke Communists regime in the USA and the irony that both the RU and CCP actually compare favorably according to the infallible Wisdom of the Ancients.

Thank God WizzBanger graces the UK instead of the USA with his offal presence and ever-present Greek contempt for his hosts country as a true treasonous Greek Anarchist Marxist Socialist.

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Re: Russia's ultimatum to the West
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2021, 10:04:38 AM »
LOL The Wizz-Butt-Banger going full-in Greek Way Again... If the Wizz-Butt-Banger was able to pull his Phat Marxist Head out of his Phatter Anarchists Arse for even a microsecond and actually had the depth of understanding to comprehend the wisdom of the ancients he would realize how critical my Post was of the New Beijing Biden Woke Communists regime in the USA and the irony that both the RU and CCP actually compare favorably according to the infallible Wisdom of the Ancients.

Thank God WizzBanger graces the UK instead of the USA with his offal presence and ever-present Greek contempt for his hosts country as a true treasonous Greek Anarchist Marxist Socialist.


Both you and Wiz are prone to histrionics to the max.  :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: Russia's ultimatum to the West
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2022, 12:44:22 PM »
Using a graphic word picture approach, I simply point out the deadly folly of not taking the Democrat Peoples Marxist Socialists at their words as they march you off to your death gulags.


 

 

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