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What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« on: December 28, 2021, 09:16:14 PM »
What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?

There are tactical reasons for threatening an invasion, but the real cause may lie in the Kremlin’s fixation with righting what it sees as a historical injustice.

   

As the Kremlin masses troops near Ukraine, it is signaling one core conviction: Russia cares more about the fate of its southwestern neighbor than the West ever will. Read the full article here DATED :  5 Dec 2021.

What’s Driving Putin’s Ukraine Brinkmanship?

Also read the following article below.

How Kremlin is Militarizing the Russian Society

DATED : 21 Dec 2021.With a “youth army,” a cathedral honoring the military and state media promoting patriotism, the government is preparing Russians for the possibility of a fight.

Speaking to Russian military leaders on 21 Dec 2021, Mr. Putin insisted that Russia did not want bloodshed, but was prepared to respond with “military-technical measures” to what he described as the West’s aggressive behaviour in the region.

While there is no surging war fever taking hold, there are plenty of signs that the government has been nurturing a readiness for conflict. A $185 million four-year program started by the Kremlin this year aims to drastically increase Russians’ “patriotic education,” including a plan to attract at least 600,000 children as young as 8 to join the ranks of a uniformed Youth Army. Adults get their inculcation from state television, where political shows — one is called “Moscow. Kremlin. Putin.” — drive home the narrative of a fascist coup in Ukraine and a West bent on Russia’s destruction.

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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2021, 12:21:39 AM »
What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?

There are tactical reasons for threatening an invasion, but the real cause may lie in the Kremlin’s fixation with righting what it sees as a historical injustice.

   

As the Kremlin masses troops near Ukraine, it is signaling one core conviction: Russia cares more about the fate of its southwestern neighbor than the West ever will. Read the full article here DATED :  5 Dec 2021.

What’s Driving Putin’s Ukraine Brinkmanship?

Also read the following article below.

How Kremlin is Militarizing the Russian Society

DATED : 21 Dec 2021.With a “youth army,” a cathedral honoring the military and state media promoting patriotism, the government is preparing Russians for the possibility of a fight.

Speaking to Russian military leaders on 21 Dec 2021, Mr. Putin insisted that Russia did not want bloodshed, but was prepared to respond with “military-technical measures” to what he described as the West’s aggressive behaviour in the region.

While there is no surging war fever taking hold, there are plenty of signs that the government has been nurturing a readiness for conflict. A $185 million four-year program started by the Kremlin this year aims to drastically increase Russians’ “patriotic education,” including a plan to attract at least 600,000 children as young as 8 to join the ranks of a uniformed Youth Army. Adults get their inculcation from state television, where political shows — one is called “Moscow. Kremlin. Putin.” — drive home the narrative of a fascist coup in Ukraine and a West bent on Russia’s destruction.



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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2021, 03:48:58 AM »
These articles that Wiz notes are on the New York Times and behind a paywall.

I believe this is the original article, posted below. It is a little more than more Russian (Kremlin) propaganda about there desire for solidarity and unity with Ukraine. Though some valid points are made.

Some one should send a memo to Vlady that he is dreaming about a new Union with Ukraine. He is going to ruin his own wet dream.


https://bdnews24.com/politics/2021/12/06/whats-driving-putins-ukraine-brinkmanship
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Re: What's Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2021, 08:57:08 AM »
These articles that Wiz notes are on the New York Times and behind a paywall.

I believe this is the original article, posted below. It is a little more than more Russian (Kremlin) propaganda about there desire for solidarity and unity with Ukraine. Though some valid points are made.

Some one should send a memo to Vlady that he is dreaming about a new Union with Ukraine. He is going to ruin his own wet dream.


https://bdnews24.com/politics/2021/12/06/whats-driving-putins-ukraine-brinkmanship

What 's happen...... office did not pay your subscription to New York Times....

Well I can always read NYT without having to pay......but I cannot read the link you posted.

Sorry I will not break the Copyright Rules to copy and paste here.... for your pleasure. But here is the writer......who regurarly posts similar posts on NYT :nod:



As usual you are drunk and you open your mouth farting..... and that is the name and photo of the NYT writer in Moscow.

In actual fact it is the other way around......concentrated almost daily USA/Zionist propaganda against Russia.

For your information just because I am married to a Russian lady I am not supporting their  Government.... but I try to be an open minded person and always try to make Objective comments... unlike YOU!

Watch this space .........

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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2021, 11:00:04 AM »
These articles that Wiz notes are on the New York Times and behind a paywall.

I believe this is the original article, posted below. It is a little more than more Russian (Kremlin) propaganda about there desire for solidarity and unity with Ukraine. Though some valid points are made.

Some one should send a memo to Vlady that he is dreaming about a new Union with Ukraine. He is going to ruin his own wet dream.


https://bdnews24.com/politics/2021/12/06/whats-driving-putins-ukraine-brinkmanship

Why have I begun to think this might be true?

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"As the Kremlin masses troops near Ukraine, it is signalling one core conviction: Russia cares more about the fate of its southwestern neighbour than the West ever will."
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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2021, 11:01:54 AM »
These articles that Wiz notes are on the New York Times and behind a paywall.

I believe this is the original article, posted below. It is a little more than more Russian (Kremlin) propaganda about there desire for solidarity and unity with Ukraine. Though some valid points are made.

Some one should send a memo to Vlady that he is dreaming about a new Union with Ukraine. He is going to ruin his own wet dream.


https://bdnews24.com/politics/2021/12/06/whats-driving-putins-ukraine-brinkmanship

Take a look at this post below and then shut your mouth trolling and talking rubbish!

Russia's ultimatum to the West: what happens
if it does not accept Russia's ultimatum ?


https://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php?topic=29698.new#new
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Re: What's Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2021, 11:27:38 AM »
These articles that Wiz notes are on the New York Times and behind a paywall.

I believe this is the original article, posted below. It is a little more than more Russian (Kremlin) propaganda about there desire for solidarity and unity with Ukraine. Though some valid points are made.

Some one should send a memo to Vlady that he is dreaming about a new Union with Ukraine. He is going to ruin his own wet dream.


https://bdnews24.com/politics/2021/12/06/whats-driving-putins-ukraine-brinkmanship

What 's happen...... office did not pay your subscription to New York Times....

Well I can always read NYT without having to pay......but I cannot read the link you posted.

Sorry I will not break the Copyright Rules to copy and paste here.... for your pleasure. But here is the writer......who regurarly posts similar posts on NYT :nod:

(Attachment Link)

As usual you are drunk and you open your mouth farting..... and that is the name and photo of the NYT writer in Moscow.

In actual fact it is the other way around......concentrated almost daily USA/Zionist propaganda against Russia.

For your information just because I am married to a Russian lady I am not supporting their  Government.... but I try to be an open minded person and always try to make Objective comments... unlike YOU!

Watch this space .........


Wiz, Hopefully your sexual intercourse is more social than your discourse.
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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2021, 12:59:35 PM »
These articles that Wiz notes are on the New York Times and behind a paywall.

I believe this is the original article, posted below. It is a little more than more Russian (Kremlin) propaganda about there desire for solidarity and unity with Ukraine. Though some valid points are made.

Some one should send a memo to Vlady that he is dreaming about a new Union with Ukraine. He is going to ruin his own wet dream.


https://bdnews24.com/politics/2021/12/06/whats-driving-putins-ukraine-brinkmanship

Take a look at this post below and then shut your mouth trolling and talking rubbish!

Russia's ultimatum to the West: what happens
if it does not accept Russia's ultimatum ?


https://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php?topic=29698.new#new

Putin's bluffing. Nothing will happen. Russia's economy is bad enough without more sanctions being added and Russians don't want an invasion of Ukraine. The Lavada polls are showing that Russian believe Western news over Russian news on this one. His propaganda won't work.
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Re: What's Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2021, 09:52:24 PM »

Wiz, Hopefully your sexual intercourse is more social than your discourse.

It is obvious that your Zionist tribe does not like been exposed, for their daily constant brainwashing propaganda, YOU direct to  the USA people using the Mass Media,  that you have full control and you decided, against the RUA Board Rules, to become personal , against me, for posting the existence of these articles where people, if they want,  can access, read and find out the truth. 

Mr AvHdB - Arlov I have news for you.

Personally I am not afraid posting personal details & photos here, look My avatar, it's me!!!. Unfortunately for you....the owner does not permit me to link to the data base of my hobby playground, where I have uploaded my photos.

Just for your information when I married my current Russian wife, she was 20 years younger than me and after 14 years of marriage,  she is still here and you may wonder why?

I must have something you obviously don't have.  :biggrin:  :nod: :laugh:

Take a look at this post
My Russian Love affair!

So who are you????????? NOBODY just a Zionist troll, Flag from Holland on your profile, living in the USA, NE of NY and spending almost 24 hours on this board.

On this board you may find another post where a previous Russian woman (doctor) was chasing me around!...... I guess it was for my sex appeal!   

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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2021, 11:20:31 PM »
Putin's bluffing. Nothing will happen. Russia's economy is bad enough without more sanctions being added and Russians don't want an invasion of Ukraine. The Lavada polls are showing that Russian believe Western news over Russian news on this one. His propaganda won't work.

Why don't you post your factual views so we can read and see who is lying?

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Re: What’s Driving Russian brinkmanship against Ukraine
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2021, 03:48:55 AM »
Putin's bluffing. Nothing will happen. Russia's economy is bad enough without more sanctions being added and Russians don't want an invasion of Ukraine. The Lavada polls are showing that Russian believe Western news over Russian news on this one. His propaganda won't work.

Why don't you post your factual views so we can read and see who is lying?

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Good to see you posting again mhr7.

On one level the Russian economy presently is not bad, it is vulnerable though. So is also the American and Chinese economies.

There is a simple reality;

1.) Russia does NOT need or want a war. They have lost Ukraine, in fact the article from the Kremlin (V. Putin) admits this indirectly.

2.) The United States has little appetite for a new European war. Though there are enough foolish souls in Washington DC who might feel otherwise.

3.) Ukraine does not desire another war fought on its soil. Ukraine is well acquainted with Russian rule for centuries. They have repeatedly indicated a greater desire to further integrate with Western and Central Europe.

Is this so difficult for some to understand?
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Re: What’s Driving Russian brinkmanship against Ukraine
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2021, 10:01:47 AM »
Putin's bluffing. Nothing will happen. Russia's economy is bad enough without more sanctions being added and Russians don't want an invasion of Ukraine. The Lavada polls are showing that Russian believe Western news over Russian news on this one. His propaganda won't work.

Why don't you post your factual views so we can read and see who is lying?

 tiphat

Good to see you posting again mhr7.

On one level the Russian economy presently is not bad, it is vulnerable though. So is also the American and Chinese economies.

There is a simple reality;

1.) Russia does NOT need or want a war. They have lost Ukraine, in fact the article from the Kremlin (V. Putin) admits this indirectly.

2.) The United States has little appetite for a new European war. Though there are enough foolish souls in Washington DC who might feel otherwise.

3.) Ukraine does not desire another war fought on its soil. Ukraine is well acquainted with Russian rule for centuries. They have repeatedly indicated a greater desire to further integrate with Western and Central Europe.

Is this so difficult for some to understand?



I don't really see a problem except for the part I bolded, which should include the US yellow journalism machine.  :coffeeread:
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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2021, 10:11:31 AM »
Interesting video to watch about the Breakup of the Soviet Union



I suggest you also watch this video too, as a good education for ignoramus!

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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2021, 03:52:56 PM »
Interesting video to watch about the Breakup of the Soviet Union



Wiz, an interesting video, thank you for posting.

For anyone who is uncertain of the former Soviet Union (USSR) this presentation may help. Many of the points I already knew but it is presented in a clear and straightforward manner. I could quibble over some of the opinions and details but they are just that.

I need another window of free time to see the second video, it is 90 minutes in duration.
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Re: What's Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2021, 10:16:27 PM »
Wiz, an interesting video, thank you for posting.

For anyone who is uncertain of the former Soviet Union (USSR) this presentation may help. Many of the points I already knew but it is presented in a clear and straightforward manner. I could quibble over some of the opinions and details but they are just that.

I need another window of free time to see the second video, it is 90 minutes in duration.

If you want to make OBJECTIVE conversation I have no problem with it!
Don't be surprised for my reaction if you start your usual bullshit comments!

I hope you will not make any claims that USA and GB had nothing to do with it ...... Remember it was Churchill and USA who created the "Cold War" and the "Iron Curtain", in the first place  after benefiting from the Sacrifices (20+ million dead) and achievements  of the Russian people. It was the Russians who waited to sigh the peace agreement together with the delayed British and Americans allies to reach Berlin. After signing and divided Berlin....USA started playing it's usual financial games to the detriment of the Russians in the East Germany!

As you have plenty of free time.... read also this article and you will learn things you never knew and the owner of the site is American. Even "Manny" has posted articles there too!




So who initiated irreconcilable confrontation right in the heart of Europe after the WWII and 40-year division of the German people who are a vassal state till 2099 according to the head of German secret service that I have already posted on this board.
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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2021, 09:09:06 AM »
Yesterday, Thursday, there was a phone conversation between J. Biden and V. Putin regarding Ukraine. The end result more discussions in the New Year, 2022.

My guess the agony of being Ukraine will drag on.

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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2021, 10:23:43 AM »
Yesterday, Thursday, there was a phone conversation between J. Biden and V. Putin regarding Ukraine. The end result more discussions in the New Year, 2022.

My guess the agony of being Ukraine will drag on.

Call me cynical, such is life.


2tall posted this elsewhere. Interesting here it’s noted 50 minutes long. I sort of doubt that J. Biden could hold a nearly hour long conversation.

There is an interesting element in the discussion no one Is mentioning the Budapest agreement.


https://dnyuz.com/2021/12/30/putin-warns-biden-of-complete-rupture-of-u-s-russia-relationship-over-ukraine/
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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2022, 10:50:10 PM »
The United Snakes should get out of Russia's garden and go back home to take care of their own poor and destitute population.


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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2022, 07:57:21 AM »
The United Snakes should get out of Russia's garden and go back home to take care of their own poor and destitute population.

The United States and for that matter NATO are not in ‘Russia’s garden’. Please study a map and realize that Ukraine and for that matter Poland are independent nations. Not withstanding Russian propaganda. There are no US troops presently stationed or even training in Ukraine presently. For a short time at the end of 2021 there was a combined battalion of US troops with regiments of Slovak and Ukraine soldiers practicing in the Carpathians. As I recall the exercises lasted less than two weeks.

The ‘poor’ in the US are often willfully that way. Not much you can do to help those who refuse assistance.

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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2022, 10:07:14 AM »
The United Snakes should get out of Russia's garden and go back home to take care of their own poor and destitute population.

The United States and for that matter NATO are not in ‘Russia’s garden’. Please study a map and realize that Ukraine and for that matter Poland are independent nations. Not withstanding Russian propaganda. There are no US troops presently stationed or even training in Ukraine presently. For a short time at the end of 2021 there was a combined battalion of US troops with regiments of Slovak and Ukraine soldiers practicing in the Carpathians. As I recall the exercises lasted less than two weeks.

The ‘poor’ in the US are often willfully that way. Not much you can do to help those who refuse assistance.

Valenki you are in the helpless category. You refuse to consider things logically or rationally.



You're ignoring the fact that if Russia had bases in Mexico or Cuba there would be an uproar in the US media.
If you have any doubt about that refer to the Monroe Doctrine.

Your comments about poor people are rather tacky.
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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2022, 04:11:46 PM »
January 08, 2022 01:13
The Russian Foreign Ministry reacted to Blinken's words
about the Russian military in Kazakhstan

The Russian Foreign Ministry replied to Blinken that the American army is killing, robbing and raping civilians

The Russian Foreign Ministry reacted to the statement of the US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken , who, referring to history, said that the Russians, once in someone else's house, are in no hurry to leave it. The answer was published on  the ministry's Telegram channel .

“If Anthony Blinken is so fond of history lessons, then let him mean the following: when Americans are in your house, it can be difficult to stay alive, not to be robbed or raped,” the message says.

Diplomats called the statement of the head of the State Department boorish, noting that such jokes are inappropriate when it comes to tragic events. The Foreign Ministry stressed that the sending of the Russian military to Kazakhstan is "an absolutely legitimate response of the CSTO to the call of the leadership of Kazakhstan to provide assistance in ensuring security."

Earlier, Blinken said that Russia seeks to change the principles on which the current world order is based.



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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2022, 04:27:02 PM »
The United Snakes should get out of Russia's garden and go back home to take care of their own poor and destitute population.


The ‘poor’ in the US are often willfully that way. Not much you can do to help those who refuse assistance.


Your comments about poor people are rather tacky.

I understand your opinion and yes you have a point. There is the unfortunate reality though of families in the United States, United Kingdom and France who willfully live poorly so they can maintain government assistance. This is the ‘poor’ I had in mind.

To those who subsist in impoverished regions I have respect for them.
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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2022, 05:04:04 PM »

CATASTROIKA[/b]



Wiz, an interesting video, it seems to deal more with the debacle of Greece than Russia. It mixes up the UK, end of USSR and the agony of Greece in one pan, what does that taste like?

The unfortunate part much is not translated.

Two moments worth noting are at about 13:10 and 16:50.

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Re: What’s Driving USA Brinkmanship against Russia?
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2022, 05:42:35 PM »
The United Snakes should get out of Russia's garden and go back home to take care of their own poor and destitute population.


The ‘poor’ in the US are often willfully that way. Not much you can do to help those who refuse assistance.


Your comments about poor people are rather tacky.

I understand your opinion and yes you have a point. There is the unfortunate reality though of families in the United States, United Kingdom and France who willfully live poorly so they can maintain government assistance. This is the ‘poor’ I had in mind.

To those who subsist in impoverished regions I have respect for them.

Just amazing Fascist attitude regarding poor people. The state support system in UK is well organised and does not allow for many discrepancies and the odd example, here or there......does not prove  the comments made above as a general rule in our social security system. 

Don't have to listen or to agree with me..... and we can always ask other British people, with more knowledge  to comment regarding this matter and we must never forget that the exceptions prove the rule, the British say!
The sun does not shine on the Ex- British Empire because God never trusted an Englishman in the dark!


 

 

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