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Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« on: November 23, 2021, 09:56:48 AM »
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2021, 10:05:47 AM »
Russia and the USA are on the brink of War, says Russian Lt. General.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/724252/Russia-US-West-Cold-War-Vladimir-Putin-Aleppo-bombing-sanctions-nuclear

This article is from 2016.

The odd thing Russia ia weaker than before, on the other side is stronger than ten years ago. It is an odd reality.

Time will tell.

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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2021, 01:20:47 PM »
Russia and the USA are on the brink of War, says Russian Lt. General.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/724252/Russia-US-West-Cold-War-Vladimir-Putin-Aleppo-bombing-sanctions-nuclear

This article is from 2016.

The odd thing Russia ia weaker than before, on the other side is stronger than ten years ago. It is an odd reality.

Time will tell.


As far as the date, oops. It was in a feed I was monitoring.

Considering that yellow journalism in the USA has not abated it seems just as relevant.

As far as strengths I disagree completely. I believe Russia is much stronger. That two-faced weasel Milley seems to agree.
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2021, 01:46:49 PM »
The concept of journalism has all but died in the United States.

As for the strength of Russia versus the US ~ Russia has advanced but so has the United States. By almost all metrics Russia not keeping pace. More amazing is the advancement that China has made in comparison to both countries.
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2021, 03:29:48 PM »
I am not sure what metric you use to say that Russia is not keeping up with the USA. I assume that you mean militarily.

I think that in many important areas that are important to Russia that this is not the case. The USA must be able to project force worldwide and against more than one opponent. It is clear that this capability is decreasing, but is still very significant.

Russia only needs to defend or deter against military force against Russia or conceivably against the 'near abroad'.

That's a huge difference in requirement in terms of the resources required.

The assessment to be made is therefore this: can the United States successfully project force against Russia?

The answer to this armchair general is that the United States cannot succeed against Russia and Russia can now project deterrent force against continental USA using their deterrent weapon systems.

A few years ago I wrote that the United States had a short window of opportunity to engage in successful military action against Russia or China. It is my belief that I was right. This is confirmed by senior military figures in the USA saying essentially the same thing and that the window is now, effectively, closed.

Remember that there are accepted ratios of force required to overcome a similarly equipped defender. I do not think that the USA could muster such forces against Russia.
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2021, 04:17:11 PM »
I am in agreement with Andrew. The US military is in disarray and demoralized after the Afghanistan debacle. Yes Biden has a lot to do with that but that sort of debacle can take a decade or more to overcome. And the US military was already on the way down with all of the stupid social engineering going on.
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2021, 05:32:25 PM »
I am not sure what metric you use to say that Russia is not keeping up with the USA. I assume that you mean militarily.

I think that in many important areas that are important to Russia that this is not the case. The USA must be able to project force worldwide and against more than one opponent. It is clear that this capability is decreasing, but is still very significant.

Russia only needs to defend or deter against military force against Russia or conceivably against the 'near abroad'.

That's a huge difference in requirement in terms of the resources required.

The assessment to be made is therefore this: can the United States successfully project force against Russia?

Who says that the USA must project force far away and against many opponents?
I know that's what the globalists want, but I'm not sure that's what Joe Sixpack
wants.

After decades of projecting force all over the globe, I think most Americans think
that we've done enough.

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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2021, 06:08:29 PM »
I am not sure what metric you use to say that Russia is not keeping up with the USA. I assume that you mean militarily.

I think that in many important areas that are important to Russia that this is not the case. The USA must be able to project force worldwide and against more than one opponent. It is clear that this capability is decreasing, but is still very significant.

Russia only needs to defend or deter against military force against Russia or conceivably against the 'near abroad'.

That's a huge difference in requirement in terms of the resources required.

The assessment to be made is therefore this: can the United States successfully project force against Russia?

Who says that the USA must project force far away and against many opponents?
I know that's what the globalists want, but I'm not sure that's what Joe Sixpack
wants.

After decades of projecting force all over the globe, I think most Americans think
that we've done enough.


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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2021, 11:02:07 PM »
Russia and the USA are on the brink of War, says Russian Lt. General.

This was a stupid idea in 2016 and it's even stupider now. Why? Over Ukraine? The worst thing that could happen is for the US to get sucked into Ukraine to "protect" them. If That happened and I was Russia I'd immediately surrender and give Ukraine to the US. We would be so screwed.
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2021, 08:48:25 AM »
Russia and the USA are on the brink of War, says Russian Lt. General.

This was a stupid idea in 2016 and it's even stupider now. Why? Over Ukraine? The worst thing that could happen is for the US to get sucked into Ukraine to "protect" them. If That happened and I was Russia I'd immediately surrender and give Ukraine to the US. We would be so screwed.

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Russians being Russian and Americans being American it is not going to happen. What about giving back California to Russia and we will even for no extra charge give N. Pelosi?
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2021, 10:18:23 AM »
Russia and the USA are on the brink of War, says Russian Lt. General.

This was a stupid idea in 2016 and it's even stupider now. Why? Over Ukraine? The worst thing that could happen is for the US to get sucked into Ukraine to "protect" them. If That happened and I was Russia I'd immediately surrender and give Ukraine to the US. We would be so screwed.

 :ROFL: tiphat

Russians being Russian and Americans being American it is not going to happen. What about giving back California to Russia and we will even for no extra charge give N. Pelosi?

At this point I would LOVE to give California back to Russia. Putin would get California back into tip top shape in no time!!

Can you imagine what Putin style Police would do to the gangs and other rift raft in CA?? Those critters would be begging for USA style Police to come back!!  :ROFL:  :ROFL:
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2021, 10:50:05 AM »
Can you imagine what Putin style Police would do to the gangs and other rift raft in CA?? Those critters would be begging for USA style Police to come back!!  :ROFL:  :ROFL:

Or they would just insist that the gangs give them their cut of the pie.

I could see it go either way
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2021, 11:02:57 AM »
The US has wanted to rule the whole world for a very long time now. Russia and China stand in the way of that goal. Washington has been pushing them but so far it ain't gonna' happen. But the American collapse won't be at the hand of either Russia or China. They will be instrumental by way of being the carrot on a stick so that the crash will be from within. The lies and war-mongering of the US will catch up with them and the population will finally rise up against it.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2021, 11:10:53 AM »
Russia and the USA are on the brink of War, says Russian Lt. General.

This was a stupid idea in 2016 and it's even stupider now. Why? Over Ukraine? The worst thing that could happen is for the US to get sucked into Ukraine to "protect" them. If That happened and I was Russia I'd immediately surrender and give Ukraine to the US. We would be so screwed.
I agree with most of this but the Ukraine isn't Russia's "to give". The Ukraine is a volatile buffer between east and west but it could be that the east/west boundary can change so that the Americans and their flunkies will find themselves sandwiched in between future ex-NATO members in the west and Russia in the east. Sounds good to me.
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2021, 10:44:05 AM »
The US has wanted to rule the whole world for a very long time now. Russia and China stand in the way of that goal.

The US is unable to challenge Russia or China. They never attack a country with nukes and generally only attack places where folks wear flip flops, and still lose. It's all hot air.
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2021, 11:27:32 AM »
The US has wanted to rule the whole world for a very long time now.

Yes, that's true and everyone in the USA has the exact same opinion. Running
the world is the primary thing that all American's agree on (for a very long time).

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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2021, 11:51:09 AM »
The US has wanted to rule the whole world for a very long time now.

Yes, that's true and everyone in the USA has the exact same opinion. Running
the world is the primary thing that all American's agree on (for a very long time).
I am happy to say that it's not true.
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2021, 04:04:11 PM »
After the debacle of Afghanistan most serious world leaders see the USA as a paper tiger.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-says-all-options-table-over-alleged-russian-invasion-threat-ukraine
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2021, 09:55:50 PM »
After the debacle of Afghanistan most serious world leaders see the USA as a paper tiger.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-says-all-options-table-over-alleged-russian-invasion-threat-ukraine
"Paper tiger"? Maybe. Ass kicked in Vietnam, Iran, Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Cuba, etc. But I see it as a rogue nation because it commits international crimes around the world ... and a bully because it gets away with it.
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2021, 08:28:51 PM »
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2021, 10:10:31 PM »
After the debacle of Afghanistan most serious world leaders see the USA as a paper tiger.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-says-all-options-table-over-alleged-russian-invasion-threat-ukraine
"Paper tiger"? Maybe. Ass kicked in Vietnam, Iran, Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Cuba, etc. But I see it as a rogue nation because it commits international crimes around the world ... and a bully because it gets away with it.

You are something of a dweeb.

But we left South Vietnam in a fragile peace with the North that other actors took advantage of is not the fault of the United States. The United States never was involved with Iran, unless you take into the account of the elimination of a terrorist masquerading as a military leader. Somalia & Syria was a poorly thought out effort for unknown reasons. Lebanon has been stable (more or less) since American arrival and departure. Cuba yearns for freedom from its dictatorship for more than 50 years.

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Russia and Ukraine?
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2021, 11:54:34 PM »
Not sure what Biden would have to say.
Biden and Putin to hold call amid Ukraine invasion fears
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59533689

Here is a youtube video of Joe Biden picking a dead dandelion for
his wife Jill. She drops it before getting on the plane. The Dem's
really know how to pick a dynamic leader.



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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2021, 12:05:01 AM »
The US has wanted to rule the whole world for a very long time now. Russia and China stand in the way of that goal.

The US is unable to challenge Russia or China. They never attack a country with nukes and generally only attack places where folks wear flip flops, and still lose. It's all hot air.
Hmmmmm, that's a very good point. And all of that, "We must prevent Iran/NK, etc from developing nukes!", well .....
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2021, 01:28:20 AM »
After the debacle of Afghanistan most serious world leaders see the USA as a paper tiger.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-says-all-options-table-over-alleged-russian-invasion-threat-ukraine
"Paper tiger"? Maybe. Ass kicked in Vietnam, Iran, Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Cuba, etc. But I see it as a rogue nation because it commits international crimes around the world ... and a bully because it gets away with it.

You are something of a dweeb.

But we left South Vietnam in a fragile peace with the North that other actors took advantage of is not the fault of the United States. The United States never was involved with Iran, unless you take into the account of the elimination of a terrorist masquerading as a military leader. Somalia & Syria was a poorly thought out effort for unknown reasons. Lebanon has been stable (more or less) since American arrival and departure. Cuba yearns for freedom from its dictatorship for more than 50 years.

In the end you win some and lose others.

Keep on trying.

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I just wonder apart from your Zionist and the Dutch flag in your avatar which others are covering your Status?

It appears you are also a USA National according to your statement above….. as about Iran…. Go back and read the history, regarding Iran and don’t forget Libya!

Obviously your memory is not working correctly, must be the bottle, as you forget a lot of American History and forays abroad….. Without mentioning Central and South America…..and the bombing of Servia, Kossovo  Balcans ..... Libya .
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Re: Russia and USA on Brink of War?
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2021, 03:38:52 AM »
After the debacle of Afghanistan most serious world leaders see the USA as a paper tiger.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-says-all-options-table-over-alleged-russian-invasion-threat-ukraine
"Paper tiger"? Maybe. Ass kicked in Vietnam, Iran, Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Cuba, etc. But I see it as a rogue nation because it commits international crimes around the world ... and a bully because it gets away with it.

You are something of a dweeb.

But we left South Vietnam in a fragile peace with the North that other actors took advantage of is not the fault of the United States. The United States never was involved with Iran, unless you take into the account of the elimination of a terrorist masquerading as a military leader. Somalia & Syria was a poorly thought out effort for unknown reasons. Lebanon has been stable (more or less) since American arrival and departure. Cuba yearns for freedom from its dictatorship for more than 50 years.

In the end you win some and lose others.

Keep on trying.

Mr Avhdb Arlov

I just wonder apart from your Zionist and the Dutch flag in your avatar which others are covering your Status?

It appears you are also a USA National according to your statement above….. as about Iran…. Go back and read the history, regarding Iran and don’t forget Libya!

Obviously your memory is not working correctly, must be the bottle, as you forget a lot of American History and forays abroad….. Without mentioning Central and South America…..and the bombing of Servia, Kossovo  Balcans ..... Libya .

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