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The American Goatee
« on: October 07, 2020, 01:09:41 PM »
I always thought the Goatee was beard was out of date.. but it seems very popular in the US?

Usually the owner slightly rounded face.. the goatee always EXACTLY the same size and style.. a bit of a belly .. some times a fair sized belly and some cargo pants or trousers that look like they were picked up at the local Jumble sale (Or mother bought them just for the photo shoot for a Russian brides dating site)

I always wondered how so many guys manage the same size Goatee ..like its a clone version.. I even spent a few hours thinking "How the hell do they all have matching Goatees?" Then I found a link   :laugh:

https://us.braun.com/en-us/male-grooming/the-world-of-styling-and-trimming/how-to-goatee

But seriously ? Why would someone want to spend all that time every day making a beard like that? What a waste of a time? I have never been a beard person, never understood why some one wants all that fluff on your chin collecting bits of dinner , fleas and christ knows what else..

But like Rice is the staple diet of India the Goatee still seems to be the staple style of the American beard.. :laugh:
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Re: The American Goatee
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2020, 04:52:18 PM »
In the 90s and 00s when beards were very unfashionable in Europe, Americans still liked the face fuzz. When my wife used to work with guys seeking Russian women she advised them to shave as the women associated it with old men. As the blokes always wanted a woman 20 years younger anyway, there was no need to highlight the age difference with a great big beard like Santa Claus. But they wouldn’t listen. Most were unsuccessful.

In recent years, younger European men - mostly hipster types - have adopted the face fuzz. Now it’s a thing if you wear red trousers and work in an internet startup.

I never really got the thing which I call upside down face. Blokes who are bald growing a beard. It seems like you are compensating for the lack of hair on your head by growing some on your chin. It doesn’t work, you’re still bald. Rock that look instead of trying to compensate with a hairy chin.

Generally speaking, European women are not keen on beards and moustaches. A bit of stubble goes down well, but lose the face fuzz. Sexy Olga doesn’t want to date the bloke from ZZ Top or John Bolton. And goatees should stay in the 70s and 80s with medallions where they belong.
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Re: The American Goatee
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2020, 05:09:53 PM »
During the height of COVID I did not shave. After 3 months I shaved, for a while I pondered other styles and decided to keep it simple. I decided that shaving was a daily PIA, that has not changed. 

While I will not decree if it is fashionable or handsome, personally it is not my taste.
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Re: The American Goatee
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2020, 04:30:20 AM »
In the 90s and 00s when beards were very unfashionable in Europe, Americans still liked the face fuzz. When my wife used to work with guys seeking Russian women she advised them to shave as the women associated it with old men. As the blokes always wanted a woman 20 years younger anyway, there was no need to highlight the age difference with a great big beard like Santa Claus. But they wouldn’t listen. Most were unsuccessful.

In recent years, younger European men - mostly hipster types - have adopted the face fuzz. Now it’s a thing if you wear red trousers and work in an internet startup.

I never really got the thing which I call upside down face. Blokes who are bald growing a beard. It seems like you are compensating for the lack of hair on your head by growing some on your chin. It doesn’t work, you’re still bald. Rock that look instead of trying to compensate with a hairy chin.

Generally speaking, European women are not keen on beards and moustaches. A bit of stubble goes down well, but lose the face fuzz. Sexy Olga doesn’t want to date the bloke from ZZ Top or John Bolton. And goatees should stay in the 70s and 80s with medallions where they belong.

Now it’s a thing if you wear red trousers and work in an internet startup. . Got a friend who wears red trousers and the beard.. I reckon he is gay.. I mean who the bloody hell is going to wear red trousers!!! Im not saying there is anything wrong with being gay.. just those trousers are part of the parcel of "Coming out of the closet " Im sure :laugh:
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Re: The American Goatee
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2020, 04:43:04 AM »
The goatee is the beard of choice for men unable to grow a beard.

The USA is an interesting case. It seems to me that manly men have beards to show they are manly men. I have, in the USAian context assumed that, on the whole, it is an affectation designed to shout out to the world their manliness. For that reason it is a compensation mechanism for guys who are not what they want is to think they are. I can't imagine many full beard wearers identifying as metrosexuals!

The goatee is slightly different. These seem to be worn almost exclusively by metrosexuals. Those somewhat emasculated men who, as Manny points out, often have unfortunate and signalling attire. Some of these guys might be pillow biters but many would claim to be straight.

I think the goatee is also a role signal. It's like the last culturally approved overt demonstration of masculinity in a culture where male roles have become confused and masculinity itself is being seen as inherently a bad thing.

The goatee is therefore a signal of confusion and an acceptance of changed status. A status of males as drones.
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Re: The American Goatee
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2020, 03:27:49 PM »
In the 90s and 00s when beards were very unfashionable in Europe, Americans still liked the face fuzz. When my wife used to work with guys seeking Russian women she advised them to shave as the women associated it with old men.

I have to say that my full beard, worn for almost all of my adult life, has never prevented success with the fairer sex, probably due to (until recently) a lack of gray, as well as selecting for women who actively prefer an older man.  I was admonished by one lady (who loved to nuzzle her face in my beard) not to let it grow  to "grandfather length".  /shrugs

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Re: The American Goatee
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2020, 05:50:26 PM »
Amazing the thoughts on this, from folks who don't have.
I wonder what your fashion says about you?

I hate shaving, but have never had a beard or goatee
Did sport a Mustach in my younger years, sometimes longer hair too.
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Re: The American Goatee
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2020, 11:14:16 PM »
Beards have become quite noticeable in Moscow over the last few years. Mostly younger guys and most don't seem to have any problem finding a girl because of it. You can include the man bun with that too.

Maybe James Harden made it popular? I have certainly seen more guys sporting breads in the last 2-3 years in Moscow. I happen to be in St. Pitersburg at the moment and haven't seen many here as of yet.

Don't see many goatees, but the Abe Lincoln look is also flashing quite a bit around town, although I think it's mostly the Chechens.

Shaving, from what I've read, it actually good for your skin. I have never had a beard/goatee myself for 2 reasons; 1) I'm too pretty and why hide my face :chuckle: and 2) I look like a terrorist when I do start to grow one. :nod:

My brother could grow a beard in high school. He had a full on beard until he met his future wife who doesn't like them. Hasn't had a bread since. IMO, most women would prefer clean shaven or at most, a finely trimmed beard.

ZZ Top can look like that and pull because they're ZZ Top. 
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Re: The American Goatee
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2020, 04:30:57 AM »
In the 90s and 00s when beards were very unfashionable in Europe, Americans still liked the face fuzz. When my wife used to work with guys seeking Russian women she advised them to shave as the women associated it with old men.

I have to say that my full beard, worn for almost all of my adult life, has never prevented success with the fairer sex, probably due to (until recently) a lack of gray, as well as selecting for women who actively prefer an older man.  I was admonished by one lady (who loved to nuzzle her face in my beard) not to let it grow  to "grandfather length".  /shrugs

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Re: The American Goatee
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2020, 05:06:31 AM »
Yea the goatee is definitely a North American thing. I remember how popular they were in both the States and Canada but I don't fancy one myself. The only guys I see with goatee's in Scotland are the old boys going for the Billy Connolly look and they usually play in a folk band and drink at the bar.

I've had a short beard now for 6/7 years. It was actually the wife who suggested it on a weekend trip to Amsterdam and she prefers me with a well trimmed short beard. The Turkish barbers are good at cutting your hair and keeping the beard stylish. I think it was last year and we were heading for Asia, a short stay in Singapore and then a beach holiday in Bali. I got my barber to give me the hot shave and take the beard off. The wife hated it and felt like she was going on holiday with someone else!!  :chuckle:

Needless to say I grew it back whilst drinking daiquiris round the pool.  :BEER:

The whole hipster look is a step too far though. Men with man buns, long beards, fisherman's beanie's, sleeve tattoos, painted on jeans and no socks need sorting out with a golf club.  :smokin:


 

 

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