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Ancient Aliens, Truth or Fiction?
« on: August 14, 2020, 02:06:59 PM »
Let's be right, David Icke is a mentally ill loon. People who listen to his rubbish end up spouting his fantasies as facts.

Once one has learned that Lizard People are not real it becomes easier to understand that almost everything he comes out with is similarly unsupported by fact.

People, it us possible to learn and thereby avoid dishonest charlatans or the honest mentally ill.

As with the sad case of Lying Moby, I tend to the opinion that Icke is a blend of the wilfully dishonest and mentally ill.
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Re: Ancient Aliens, Truth or Fiction?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2020, 11:47:51 PM »
Let's be right, David Icke is a mentally ill loon. People who listen to his rubbish end up spouting his fantasies as facts.

Once one has learned that Lizard People are not real it becomes easier to understand that almost everything he comes out with is similarly unsupported by fact.

People, it us possible to learn and thereby avoid dishonest charlatans or the honest mentally ill.

As with the sad case of Lying Moby, I tend to the opinion that Icke is a blend of the wilfully dishonest and mentally ill.

Who taught you, or shall I say, who has claimed and proven, beyond a shadow of doubt, that reptilian creatures, specifically aliens, or shall we say extra terrestrial beings, did not in fact come to Earth, alter our DNA and get mislabeled as "God" or "Gods"?

Have you ever heard of the Sumerian tablets? Have you spent any time at all delving into what they say?

No doubt you're familiar with the term blue bloods? These alien creatures had blue blood because their blood was copper rich based on the planet they came from. Their direct descendants became royalty on Earth, hence the term blue bloods for royalty.

One researcher stated that the novel Dune has far more truth in it then the Bible and I am inclined to believe him.

And further more, David Icke still has 1,000 times the credibility of moby.
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Re: Ancient Aliens, Truth or Fiction?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2020, 11:56:57 PM »
I have just witnessed somebody exclude himself from rational discourse with just a few words.

Whilst David Icke is a son of Britannia he has clearly found a spiritual home over in The Land of the Dumb, Home of the Craven.

Clearly, for some poor dumfuchs science and magic are one and the same, saving the victim from the tedium of learning how anything works.
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Re: Ancient Aliens, Truth or Fiction?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2020, 12:09:16 AM »
Andy just threw out a typical insult, something he likes to do when others have information he doesn't have. No worries!

Archeologists find statues of 7,000 year old Reptilian creatures.
             
           
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2020, 12:18:34 AM »
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2020, 12:24:05 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2020, 12:39:52 AM »
Russian researchers believe Aliens altered human DNA.

         
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Re: Ancient Aliens, Truth or Fiction?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2020, 09:54:47 AM »
Archaeologists find statues of 7,000 year old Reptilian creatures.

Or, they found statues of people wearing masks.

If your 'reptilian creatures' existed, dont you think the odd skeleton or something else one might regard as proof would pop up from time to time?

That no credible proof exists, puts them in the same category as the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, fairies, leprechauns, goblins and Moby's "action" with the Blue Berets. All things that some believe but for which there is no proof.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2020, 10:08:06 AM »
Archaeologists find statues of 7,000 year old Reptilian creatures.

Or, they found statues of people wearing masks.

If your 'reptilian creatures' existed, dont you think the odd skeleton or something else one might regard as proof would pop up from time to time?

That no credible proof exists, puts them in the same category as the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, fairies, leprechauns, goblins and Moby's "action" with the Blue Berets. All things that some believe but for which there is no proof.

You probably haven't read about it, but a big part of the USA occupying Iraq had to do with finding and stealing ancient artifacts which could prove there were indeed Ancient Aliens.

Rumors are that US special forces located the tomb of famed Gilgamesh and his remains are now stored in some large warehouse near DC similar to the ending scene of Raiders of the lost Ark.

Have you ever wondered where Hollywood gets inspiration for a screenplay like Cowboys and Aliens?

Hint: the Old Testament of the Bible is actually the retelling of human interaction with Aliens. Nephilim are prominent in the Old Testament. The book of Enoch was removed from the Bible.

For those who don't know the Epic of Gilgamesh was a story told in the Sumarian Tablets.

Zachariah Sitchen and Tellinger are prominent Ancient Alien researchers and their books are highly recommended. Such as: Slave Species of the Gods.


https://www.amazon.com/Slave-Species-Gods-History-Anunnaki/dp/1591431514


And not finally but certainly fascinating and thought provoking, Elon Musk on all of us being stuck in an advanced simulation:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8q854v/elon-musk-simulated-universe-hypothesis
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Re: Ancient Aliens, Truth or Fiction?
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2020, 10:29:56 AM »
Author Paul Wallis makes very well researched YouTube videos.

           
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Re: Ancient Aliens, Truth or Fiction?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2020, 05:26:08 PM »
What does the Pentagon really know?

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/08/pentagon-has-now-formed-a-ufo-task-force/

Perhaps UK's Gary McKinnon told the truth about the USAF TR-3B and TR-5E spacecraft carriers fleet?


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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2020, 05:47:16 PM »
Throughout our history, when an advanced civilization meets a less advanced civilization, it ends up badly for the less advanced civilization. Europeans pretty much had their way against the Indians.

If man is to invest a massive amount of resources into a risky venture to look for a planet with water, food consisting of plants and animals, and livable atmosphere to sustain life, do you think we'll find it and then just leave? We'd conquer. So if aliens came here thousands of years ago and found Earth can sustain life, they would've attempted to conquered us by now. Why haven't they done so? Because they never showed up on earth.
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Re: Ancient Aliens, Truth or Fiction?
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2020, 06:13:06 PM »
The New York Times
Origin of the Species, From an Alien View
By Corey Kilgannon
Jan. 8, 2010

WHERE did humankind come from?

If you’re going to ask Zecharia Sitchin, be ready for a “Planet of the Apes” scenario: spaceships and hieroglyphics, genetic mutations and mutinous space aliens in gold mines.

It sounds like science fiction, but Mr. Sitchin is sure this is how it all went down hundreds of thousands of years ago in Mesopotamia. Humans were genetically engineered by extraterrestrials, he said, pointing to ancient texts to prove it.

In Mr. Sitchin’s Upper West Side kitchen, evolution and creationism collide. He is an apparently sane, sharp, University of London-educated 89-year-old who has spent his life arguing that people evolved with a little genetic intervention from ancient astronauts who came to Earth and needed laborers to mine gold to bring back to Nibiru, a planet we have yet to recognize."

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/nyregion/10alone.html
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2020, 06:22:16 PM »
More from link above.

"It starts with the planet Nibiru, whose long, elliptical orbit brings it near Earth once every 3,600 years or so. The planet’s inhabitants were technologically advanced humanlike beings, Mr. Sitchin said, standing about nine feet tall. Some 450,000 years ago, they detected reserves of gold in southeast Africa and made a colonial expedition to Earth, splashing down in what is now the Persian Gulf.

Mr. Sitchin said these Nibiru-ites recruited laborers from Earth’s erect primates to build eight great cities. Enki, who became the Sumerians’ god of science, bestowed some of the Nibiru-ites’ advanced genetic makeup upon these bipeds so they could work as miners.

This is how Mr. Sitchin explains what scientists attribute to evolution. He says the aliens’ cities were washed away in a great flood 30,000 years ago, after which they began passing on their knowledge to humans. He showed a photograph of a woodcarving from 7,000 B.C. of a large man handing over a plow to a smaller man: Ah, the passing on of agricultural knowledge. Anyway, he said, the Nibiru-ites finally jetted home in their spacecraft, around 550 B.C.

“This is in the texts; I’m not making it up,” Mr. Sitchin said, finishing his coffee. “They wanted to create primitive workers from the homo erectus and give him the genes to allow him to think and use tools.”


He showed photographs of ancient Sumerian carvings and etchings showing what he said were alien gods dressed in space helmets and suits. He pointed to something he called Nibiru in diagrams of the solar system.

Quite a theory — has he sold it to Hollywood?

“Oh no, not yet,” he said solemnly. “I’m waiting for Spielberg.”



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Re: Ancient Aliens, Truth or Fiction?
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2020, 02:07:56 AM »
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David Icke and ANYONE believing his bollox is a nut job
I have never claimed to be a Blue Beret

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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2020, 09:44:46 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2020, 10:34:17 AM »
Forbidden Archeology.

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Forbidden Archeology: The Hidden History of the Human Race_, published by the Bhaktivedanta Institute, by historian and philosopher of science Michael A. Cremo and researcher Richard L. Thompson

"first appeared in 1993. This book called into question the most widely accepted account of the origin of mankind by bringing to light an enormous amount of anomalous evidence. Such evidence would seem to indicate that mankind (as Homo sapiens sapiens) existed on this planet long before the accepted date for man's origins (believed to be 100,000 years ago in Africa after evolving from an ape-like ancestor). However, were the evidence presented in this book to be accepted, then it would call into question the most widely held theory of man's origins, the Darwinian account of evolution by means of natural selection. The book relies on a certain understanding of the scientific enterprise itself, emphasizing the role that social forces play in the scientific endeavor. As such, the authors admit their debts to such philosophers of science as Thomas Kuhn, Steven Shapin, and Paul Feyerabend. The ideas of these philosophers are controversial (particularly among scientists) because they seem to show that sociological (and even political) factors play a greater role in the scientific endeavor than is usually admitted. (Long ago, others such as Charles Fort also amassed anomalous evidence that called into account many widely accepted theories of the time.) Throughout the book the authors will maintain that such anomalous evidence presents a challenge to the orthodox scientific account of mankind's origins."

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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2020, 10:53:13 AM »
Evidence of an alien intervention: Rh negative blood.

           
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Re: Ancient Aliens, Truth or Fiction?
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2020, 11:54:03 AM »
Rh negative blood.

My mother is Rhesus Negative, that might explain a lot. Maybe she is an alien.  :chuckle:

I just read that Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, George W. Bush, Clinton and Obama were all RH Negative. An interesting factoid, but nothing to suggest they are other worldly.

I was just reading about the Book of Enoch, some of this stuff can draw you down worm holes if only to disprove it.
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2020, 07:13:07 PM »
Rh negative blood.

My mother is Rhesus Negative, that might explain a lot. Maybe she is an alien.  :chuckle:

I just read that Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, George W. Bush, Clinton and Obama were all RH Negative. An interesting factoid, but nothing to suggest they are other worldly.

I was just reading about the Book of Enoch, some of this stuff can draw you down worm holes if only to disprove it.

Notice the Bible scriptures which say "gleaming metal" flashing lights, bright flames etcetera.

Clearly the author is doing his best to describe an Ancient Astronaut spacecraft.

You're welcome to interpret it however you please but the people who do this full time have assembled quite a lot of evidence that we were visited and occupied.

https://www.openbible.info/topics/aliens

Ezekiel 1:4

"As I looked, behold, a stormy wind came out of the north, and a great cloud, with brightness around it, and fire flashing forth continually, and in the midst of the fire, as it were gleaming metal. And from the midst of it came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had a human likeness, "



2 Kings 2:11 ESV

"And as they still went on and talked, behold, chariots of fire and horses of fire separated the two of them. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven."
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2020, 09:42:14 PM »

Add a few bright lights rarely ever seen and some drugs and you got UFO. Check out this creature in the sky when you're high.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/spectacular-image-reveals-electrical-tentacles-130100399.html
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Re: Ancient Aliens, Truth or Fiction?
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2020, 10:54:07 PM »
Ezekiel 1:4

"As I looked, behold, a stormy wind came out of the north, and a great cloud, with brightness around it, and fire flashing forth continually, and in the midst of the fire, as it were gleaming metal. And from the midst of it came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had a human likeness, "

Your resource references select bits of text out of context.

If one reads the rest of it in context: https://biblehub.com/niv/ezekiel/1.htm

It would appear to describe angels in chariots: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkabah_mysticism

Unless you are asserting god travelled with aliens.
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