The value of a US passport

[Omega1982]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/is-this-the-end-of-american-passport-privilege/ar-BB17ym7q


Any thoughts?  I found very interesting the part that says if ranked by perception it ranks 50th.

[Steveboy]

I guess they should re name it as the US pair of handcuffs cos once you got one you have it till your dying day .. no one wants to open bank accounts for you if you have one..your under control and taxed till your dead.. no where to run..

[Manny]

I think the reduction in the perception of value of the passport is just a direct consequence of the location being less desirable than it was in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Steve is also right that nobody engaged in international business would relish being taxed on their worldwide income and not be able to open bank accounts abroad.

Many Americans pretend theyre Canadian when travelling abroad dont they?

That's because they are aware of negative perception.

Do Americans really pretend to be Canadian abroad in order to deflect negative sentiments about their nationality? In 2004, The Washington Times reported on a company selling a "Going Canadian" kit, complete with maple leaf accessories and a guidebook on speaking Canadian. CNN covered the phenomenon in 2013. The Onion parodied concerns in "Report: U.S. Foreign Policy Hurting American Students' Chances Of Getting Laid Abroad."

Do Americans Really Pretend to Be Canadian Abroad?

That Trump enjoys much support in the US is a source of bemusement and ridicule abroad. Foreigners dont really get how a rude and boorish bloke with no diplomatic skills has high public support. Trump is a nail in the coffin just as Bush and Obama and the many wars and invasions were.

[Steveboy]

I can tell you, and you should look in to it.. within the next 10/15 years Russia is going to be one of the most desirable places to live in the world .. that is for running a business , living standards and so on.. the Russian passport will be one of the highest of the lot soon enough..

You will never have the opportunities any where in the world that many already have in Russia and its going to get much much better I did have a very good article about the future in Russia and NO its not going to be about oil and gas.. I will try  to find..

Making a business in Russia is becoming easier by the year.  https://expatriant.com/the-practical-guide-to-running-a-small-business-in-russia-as-a-foreigner/

Forget about all the old maids stories about the mafia coming round for they cut.. or all the red tape .. nothing working and so on and so on..

If I was you I would get yourself a Russian passport..

[BillyB]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/is-this-the-end-of-american-passport-privilege/ar-BB17ym7q


Any thoughts?  I found very interesting the part that says if ranked by perception it ranks 50th.

MSN is anti Trump news. Article said America passport was #1 in 2015 when Obama was president. Trump must be the problem according to them. I'm sure it'll be back to #1 if Biden is elected president. Garbage journalism.

[Steveboy]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/is-this-the-end-of-american-passport-privilege/ar-BB17ym7q


Any thoughts?  I found very interesting the part that says if ranked by perception it ranks 50th.

MSN is anti Trump news. Article said America passport was #1 in 2015 when Obama was president. Trump must be the problem according to them. I'm sure it'll be back to #1 if Biden is elected president. Garbage journalism.

Biden. Im not into US politics much other than knowing most are crooks just like the rest of the world.. wasn't Biden the one with the twat for a son doing some back handers in Ukraine?

Got to laugh at all of them really..

[BillyB]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/is-this-the-end-of-american-passport-privilege/ar-BB17ym7q


Any thoughts?  I found very interesting the part that says if ranked by perception it ranks 50th.

MSN is anti Trump news. Article said America passport was #1 in 2015 when Obama was president. Trump must be the problem according to them. I'm sure it'll be back to #1 if Biden is elected president. Garbage journalism.

Biden. Im not into US politics much other than knowing most are crooks just like the rest of the world.. wasn't Biden the one with the twat for a son doing some back handers in Ukraine?

Got to laugh at all of them really..

Yes Biden got his son a good job with a corrupt Ukrainian company and his son is making good money with Chinese companies. His son got kicked out of the Navy, addicted to cocaine, was caught going to strip clubs, and trying to get out of child support to women he impregnated. Other than that, he's an angel.

[Steveboy]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/is-this-the-end-of-american-passport-privilege/ar-BB17ym7q


Any thoughts?  I found very interesting the part that says if ranked by perception it ranks 50th.

MSN is anti Trump news. Article said America passport was #1 in 2015 when Obama was president. Trump must be the problem according to them. I'm sure it'll be back to #1 if Biden is elected president. Garbage journalism.

Biden. Im not into US politics much other than knowing most are crooks just like the rest of the world.. wasn't Biden the one with the twat for a son doing some back handers in Ukraine?

Got to laugh at all of them really..

Yes Biden got his son a good job with a corrupt Ukrainian company and his son is making good money with Chinese companies. His son got kicked out of the Navy, addicted to cocaine, was caught going to strip clubs, and trying to get out of child support to women he impregnated. Other than that, he's an angel.

Oooh just the same as all the other idiots.. I did think Trump was going to be a little different and more of a peoples man.. but after the fiasco in Turkey with the Saudi lot, the acid bath and meat cleavers it soon came clear Trump was just like everyone else when it comes to money, arms deals and so on.. all tared with the same brush.. same all over the world though,, no point complaining about it.. *** the lot of them I say cos if you don't in the end they will **** you..

[Steveboy]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/is-this-the-end-of-american-passport-privilege/ar-BB17ym7q


Any thoughts?  I found very interesting the part that says if ranked by perception it ranks 50th.

Here we go..



This is the what it looks like n the day you are finally free of the US shackle around your neck..

[Omega1982]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/is-this-the-end-of-american-passport-privilege/ar-BB17ym7q


Any thoughts?  I found very interesting the part that says if ranked by perception it ranks 50th.

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Billy the reason is that trump has insulted Chinese muslims blacks hispanics. Do you think this is good for international relations?


MSN is anti Trump news. Article said America passport was #1 in 2015 when Obama was president. Trump must be the problem according to them. I'm sure it'll be back to #1 if Biden is elected president. Garbage journalism.

[BillyB]

Billy the reason is that trump has insulted Chinese muslims blacks hispanics. Do you think this is good for international relations?

Insulting people isn't good for international relations but you have to realize, the media narrative is Trump is racist and is destroying relations with other nations.

Trump sold hundreds of millions of dollars of military equipment to our allies in the middle East. He doesn't hate Muslims. He's made them stronger. He just hates terrorists.

Trump created an economy that got blacks off welfare an got them more jobs than any other administration in history.

Trump has given more work visas to those living in Latin America compared to any other President. Trump never said he wanted no immigration. He just wants things to be done legally.

China deserves to be insulted.

[msmoby]

If I was you I would get yourself a Russian passport..

Have you got one ?

I'm not interested in Residency or a RU passport ... I'd need a RU driver's licence ...


Seriously, apart from not needing to pay for a TR e-Visa .. and the need to have a visa to travel to RU ... ( remembering an e-visa will be obtainable EXCEPT for five-eyes nations ) what benefit is a RU passport, given the places you'd need a visa to go ?

Having a US passport means intrusive tax returns - even if not doing bis there or resident


Having a UK passport will be less useful,soon , in that 27 plus nations will not allow one to tip up and be resident / work


I think a Jap one is the best ?

An Irish one is pretty useful ..

[rosco]

Having a UK passport will be less useful,soon , in that 27 plus nations will not allow one to tip up and be resident / work

 

You're so deluded you actually believe your own crap. Yea ok, the world will want Bulgarian, Romanian and Latvian passports before a UK holder. Once the music stops and the dancing is over, Europe will pull its pants down for UK investment, tourism and moderately wealthy individuals. Some are already breaking rank and pleading the Britis to go to them first!!

Pull the other one!! 

[Steveboy]

If I was you I would get yourself a Russian passport..

Have you got one ?

I'm not interested in Residency or a RU passport ... I'd need a RU driver's licence ...


Seriously, apart from not needing to pay for a TR e-Visa .. and the need to have a visa to travel to RU ... ( remembering an e-visa will be obtainable EXCEPT for five-eyes nations ) what benefit is a RU passport, given the places you'd need a visa to go ?

Having a US passport means intrusive tax returns - even if not doing bis there or resident


Having a UK passport will be less useful,soon , in that 27 plus nations will not allow one to tip up and be resident / work


I think a Jap one is the best ?

An Irish one is pretty useful ..

Of course it is my plan to get one!!


An Irish one is pretty useful ..  Arn't  they printed upside down ?   

[msmoby]

You're so deluded you actually believe your own crap.

'Crap' ?  Ah, so you have recent experience of the hassles UK passport holders can expect when ( example)  renewing mobile phone contracts ...  I deliberately sent a scan of my UK passport ..

Yea ok, the world will want Bulgarian, Romanian and Latvian passports before a UK holder.

If in the EU, they will have no choice, soon ... Not being EU citizens will mean EU citizens take priority for work ,,,, In these strange times a MAJOR bummer - esp for young Brits

Once the music stops and the dancing is over, Europe will pull its pants down for UK investment, tourism and moderately wealthy individuals. Some are already breaking rank and pleading the Britis to go to them first!!

'Sure' they will ...  Tell us how that's worked out for your previous 'example' ..Portugal ...   


We're heading for 'no deal' and that is not the 'deal' sold in 2016 ..


FACT: a UK passport will open less doors

[Manny]

You mean fewer doors, not less (natural English). But you’re wrong anyway.

The pro EU brigade love to talk about how the UK will be reduced to a snivelling, destitute outcast after leaving the warm and cosy EU. The utter twaddle above is just Pinko fantasy. Our passport will remain as strong and desirable as it’s done for centuries.

If a few teenagers can’t work in foreign bars so easily, who cares? We need fruit pickers if they want a summer job.

And the topic is US passports, we don’t need off topic remainiac speculation and propaganda, thanks.

[2tallbill]

Any thoughts?  I found very interesting the part that says if ranked by perception it ranks 50th.

It's the only one I have, so it's my favorite. The blue enhances my eyes. I can travel to
most places with it.

[Markje]

Any thoughts?  I found very interesting the part that says if ranked by perception it ranks 50th.

It's the only one I have, so it's my favorite. The blue enhances my eyes. I can travel to
most places with it.

Here are the top 10 rankings for the most powerful passports in 2024, and the number of other countries these passport holders can visit, without having to obtain a visa in advance.

1. France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Singapore, Spain (194 destinations)
2. Finland, South Korea, Sweden (193 destinations)
3. Austria, Denmark, Ireland, Netherlands (192 destinations)
4. Belgium, Luxembourg, Norway, Portugal, United Kingdom (191 destinations)
5. Greece, Malta, Switzerland (190 destinations)
6. Australia, Czechia, New Zealand, Poland (189 destinations)
7. Canada, Hungary, United States (188 destinations)
8. Estonia, Lithuania (187 destinations)
9. Latvia, Slovakia, Slovenia (186 destinations)
10. Iceland (185 destinations)

[2tallbill]

Any thoughts?  I found very interesting the part that says if ranked by perception it ranks 50th.

It's the only one I have, so it's my favorite. The blue enhances my eyes. I can travel to
most places with it.

Here are the top 10 rankings for the most powerful passports in 2024, and the number of other countries these passport holders can visit, without having to obtain a visa in advance.

1. France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Singapore, Spain (194 destinations)
2. Finland, South Korea, Sweden (193 destinations)
3. Austria, Denmark, Ireland, Netherlands (192 destinations)
4. Belgium, Luxembourg, Norway, Portugal, United Kingdom (191 destinations)
5. Greece, Malta, Switzerland (190 destinations)
6. Australia, Czechia, New Zealand, Poland (189 destinations)
7. Canada, Hungary, United States (188 destinations)
8. Estonia, Lithuania (187 destinations)
9. Latvia, Slovakia, Slovenia (186 destinations)
10. Iceland (185 destinations)

The OP had the USA listed as 50th. Ozzie's and Kiwi's need a visa for Ukraine.
That's probably because they have all the blood running to their heads being
upside down and all, besides saying crikey! and M8 exceeds Ukrainian maximum
standards.

[B.B.]

I wonder what the 6 countries are that are the difference b/w USA and the #1 slot?  Because if they are counting places like "Cuba" where the USA says a US Passport isn't valid for travel then it makes no difference, as the Cubans will issue you a visa on arrival b/c they are thirsty for our Yanqui Dollares.

Similarly, if I need a visa for Belaurus or Tongo, I suppose I can live with it.  Same for Russia and China. 

B/B

[Markje]

I wonder what the 6 countries are that are the difference b/w USA and the #1 slot?  Because if they are counting places like "Cuba" where the USA says a US Passport isn't valid for travel then it makes no difference, as the Cubans will issue you a visa on arrival b/c they are thirsty for our Yanqui Dollares.

Similarly, if I need a visa for Belaurus or Tongo, I suppose I can live with it.  Same for Russia and China. 

B/B

Yes, you will need a Visa for Russia/China, but so will Germans (the #1 spot)

[Omega1982]

Bill one thing is to travel, another thing is to live and do business overseas.  If you're an American doing business in Dubai let's say you're building a hotel.  You might not be able to do business with Russians.  You will have a hard time opening a bank account in Dubai.  You will have to file US taxes even though you're not living there.  And we are less free with each passing year.  How about the 87,000 IRS agents that were just hired. 

[Omega1982]

In the 1990's you would walk into your local bank in the US and tell the rep you needed to send a wire transfer to Canada.  The rep's response in 1995 was "sure, and would you like some coffee while you wait." 

Now, you do the same and the rep asks you if you're a terrorist. 

I think we were at our peak freedom in America in the 1990's.  It really was a good time. 

[2tallbill]

Bill one thing is to travel, another thing is to live and do business overseas.  If you're an American doing business in Dubai let's say you're building a hotel.  You might not be able to do business with Russians.  You will have a hard time opening a bank account in Dubai.  You will have to file US taxes even though you're not living there.  And we are less free with each passing year.  How about the 87,000 IRS agents that were just hired.

For sure freedom is getting more difficult. Both parties are guilty. The left has invented
the pretense of exchanging liberty for security. George W Bush was nearly as bad. 

[Omega1982]

That's true it has definitely become an issue on both parties. 

The 1990s really were good times.  Also for manufacturing.  Better products were made.  More reliable cars, stereos, computers.