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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2020, 06:18:35 AM »
I missed this one right on the doorstep...


Pity I would of loved to sing "Bye bye baby" by the bay city rollers outside  :laugh:
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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2020, 07:05:28 AM »
Besides isn't it a brighter idea to maintain good relations with a technologically advanced populous and wealthy major global player?  I personally would rather have someone like that as a friend.

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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2020, 11:14:22 AM »
I read on Wechat today they will respond in kind and close two in China. Maybe Chengdu and Hong Kong.

Bang on cue, the US is kicked out of their embassy in Chengdu over the weekend: U.S. national flag lowered in Chengdu consulate general

You can even watch the video.  :chuckle:

Nothing gives me more pleasure than watching the US flag lowered and staff kicked out of an embassy  tiphat

Warms the cockles of your heart, doesn't it?  :chuckle:

Besides isn't it a brighter idea to maintain good relations with a technologically advanced populous and wealthy major global player?  I personally would rather have someone like that as a friend.

That would seem common sense to me.

But the US (and the UK too) runs on having an enemy or six, a bogeyman to distract people from what's going on at home. A narrative so the sheeple think good old government is keeping them safe. So take your pick: war on terror, war on drugs, weapons of mass destruction, imminent invasion or other naughtiness by North Korea, Russia or China. Just keep interchanging those three, make some shit up and keep the narrative alive.

It's easier to keep that stuff on the front pages than *actual* news like blacks running rampant, rioting and looting in the US because um, BLM apparently. Or here it keeps floods of illegal migrants (refugees to Moby and the Guardian) from France and lots of grooming Muzzies and stabby blacks in London out of the news.
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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2020, 11:33:03 PM »
It's funny how the boogeyman is always Russia or China and yet when you actually go and visit you experience firsthand how well the locals live. 

The last time I was in Sheremetyevo I was in the priority lounge and looked around at numerous Russians and their families traveling to all corners of the globe and I thought to myself these people are living the best times of their lives.  When in Russias history has the average Russian had access to so much disposable income and so well traveled.  Never before.  The same with the Chinese. 

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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2020, 11:40:19 PM »
The average Chinese was poor until about a generation ago. 

And they know even better times are on the horizon. 

So why would anyone in their right mind want to bite the hand that feeds them? 

At the university where I did my masters there were more international students than domestic ones.  And guess where most of the internationa students were from?  China.  And guess what, they pay cash and they pay well.  They pay a premium for being just that international and some even pay for university housing and meals.  So the university president can balance his books at the end of the year.  But what did Trump do here in the US, try to kick out the international students.  A lot of the smaller universities were shitting bricks because they operate on a thin margin.  Not everyone has the balance sheet of Harvard and Yale you know.... 


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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2020, 01:22:00 AM »
The average Chinese was poor until about a generation ago. 


They've greatly improved but still 60% of their population makes $10 or less a day. Immigrants from Communist nations are pretty much in agreement. People there are equal, equally poor. But there is a super rich and powerful class that gets rewarded for administering equality.

https://chinapower.csis.org/china-middle-class/
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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2020, 01:34:27 AM »
China has the largest middle class in the world, Billy.
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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2020, 06:47:51 AM »
I read on Wechat today they will respond in kind and close two in China. Maybe Chengdu and Hong Kong.

Bang on cue, the US is kicked out of their embassy in Chengdu over the weekend: U.S. national flag lowered in Chengdu consulate general

You can even watch the video.  :chuckle:

Nothing gives me more pleasure than watching the US flag lowered and staff kicked out of an embassy  tiphat

Warms the cockles of your heart, doesn't it?  :chuckle:

Besides isn't it a brighter idea to maintain good relations with a technologically advanced populous and wealthy major global player?  I personally would rather have someone like that as a friend.

That would seem common sense to me.

But the US (and the UK too) runs on having an enemy or six, a bogeyman to distract people from what's going on at home. A narrative so the sheeple think good old government is keeping them safe. So take your pick: war on terror, war on drugs, weapons of mass destruction, imminent invasion or other naughtiness by North Korea, Russia or China. Just keep interchanging those three, make some shit up and keep the narrative alive.

It's easier to keep that stuff on the front pages than *actual* news like blacks running rampant, rioting and looting in the US because um, BLM apparently. Or here it keeps floods of illegal migrants (refugees to Moby and the Guardian) from France and lots of grooming Muzzies and stabby blacks in London out of the news.

Warms the cockles of your heart, doesn't it?   . It gives me soooo much pleasure watching would love to be actively involved and help remove the furniture..  :chuckle:

I don't mind Americans .. Its just the government I cant stand.. though its funny I only got only one US friend in Facebook left!! The rest all deleted me  :laugh: :laugh:

One even deleted me so I cannot find him again :laugh: :laugh:

What I really find amusing is liberal Americans living in Russia .. that is f**** weird!! They arrive in Russia criticize the Russian  government ,, spend all day every day posting about Trump and so on YET here they are living in a country with no liberalism  ??? Mention what a tosser the Clintons  or Obama are and its all hell breaks loose..

Its when I get round to that subject they usually delete me.. some times I may meet some guy from the US become friends for just a few days.. love it!!!
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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2020, 07:46:58 AM »
China has the largest middle class in the world, Billy.

That is going to change very quickly if they continue on their current path of provoking the USA by stealing our intellectual property, amongst many other sins they are committing.

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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2020, 10:53:45 AM »
China has the largest middle class in the world, Billy.

I agree. The chart in the link I provided says anybody making $10-$50 per day is considered middle class. Making more than $50 per day is upper class.
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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2020, 11:26:13 AM »
China has the largest middle class in the world, Billy.

That is going to change very quickly if they continue on their current path of provoking the USA by stealing our intellectual property, amongst many other sins they are committing.

It is not the USA China needs to be worried about. China is quickly running out of friends anywhere in the world. Even Putin canceled sales of s-400 anti missile system and move up delivery date for India on the same system.  Putin made a speech saying that Chinese Army need to focus on virus control. The man (Putin) has got a real dry since of humor. Sometimes you just got to love it. :ROFL:

China built a large ice breaker and wants to start having the Chinese Navy patrolling off the northern coast of Russia. This ice breaker was suppose the first of many. Putin was under thrilled about the whole idea.  Russia has forty Ice breakers which Putin has said it might have to start arming to counter Chinese aggression. 

One video I saw said that Russia internally is having all the same problem with spying and theft of intellectual material by the Chinese as the USA is having.
3) There has been no "threat" to invade Ukraine. The US invented that and fed it to a complicit media.

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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2020, 05:21:17 PM »
China has the largest middle class in the world, Billy.

I agree. The chart in the link I provided says anybody making $10-$50 per day is considered middle class. Making more than $50 per day is upper class.

I've been to China many times. I've been in Guangzhou, GuangDong, Dongguan, Dongsheng, Beijing, Ningbo, Shenzhen, Zhejiang, Hong Kong and others.

US$50 hardly buys lunch for one. You are talking nonsense. Go on Billy, teach me something about China I don't know. While you're at it, tell us how many times you visited.
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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2020, 09:00:34 PM »
China has the largest middle class in the world, Billy.

That is going to change very quickly if they continue on their current path of provoking the USA by stealing our intellectual property, amongst many other sins they are committing.

It is not the USA China needs to be worried about. China is quickly running out of friends anywhere in the world. Even Putin canceled sales of s-400 anti missile system and move up delivery date for India on the same system.  Putin made a speech saying that Chinese Army need to focus on virus control. The man (Putin) has got a real dry since of humor. Sometimes you just got to love it. :ROFL:

China built a large ice breaker and wants to start having the Chinese Navy patrolling off the northern coast of Russia. This ice breaker was suppose the first of many. Putin was under thrilled about the whole idea.  Russia has forty Ice breakers which Putin has said it might have to start arming to counter Chinese aggression. 

One video I saw said that Russia internally is having all the same problem with spying and theft of intellectual material by the Chinese as the USA is having.

Tex,

Could you possibly find that video and post it? We would be very pleased to view this.

Thx in advance.

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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2020, 03:00:04 PM »
This one touches some of it. The canceling of the s 400 system and a little about why.


3) There has been no "threat" to invade Ukraine. The US invented that and fed it to a complicit media.

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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2020, 04:59:56 PM »
A little more about Russia, China relationship.

3) There has been no "threat" to invade Ukraine. The US invented that and fed it to a complicit media.

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Re: Chinese embassy ordered shut in Houston
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2020, 10:08:07 PM »

There's something big going on for Russia to cancel the sale of military hardware to China. Even a blind man can see China is aggressively looking for more real estate. They have built some nuclear ice breakers which means they are looking for property and resources up north.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/china-building-nuclear-icebreakers-seek-out-polar-silk-road-132417
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