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Covid-19 Is the Perfect Catalyst for Trump’s War Against China


The phrase ‘Yellow Peril’ – pertaining to the alleged threat of the Far East – was coined by Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany in the 1880s after he had a dream featuring a Buddha riding a dragon threatening to invade Europe. It’s unclear whether Donald Trump has experienced a similar premonition during his lifetime but one thing is certain: he leads an administration which has been intent on escalating tensions with China, even prior to the outbreak of coronavirus.

It was just a matter of time before the blame game would begin. Donald Trump has long viewed China as an economic adversary. On the presidential campaign trail in 2016 he was accusing China of ‘raping’ the US and that the nation was responsible for the ‘the greatest theft in the history of the world’. The rhetoric has not changed much since then. Trump vigorously pursued his trade war with China in 2018 when he literally ‘ordered’ US companies to cease trading with the east asian nation. The President has attempted to influence policy beyond its borders too; pressurizing the UK not to embark on a deal with Huawei, the Chinese mobile phone network provider, to set up 5G across Britain. The US has never disguised its hatred of the firm, launching its own special vendetta against it, including the organisation of the arrest of the Huawei founder’s daughter and Chief Financial Officer in Canada in 2018.

The coronavirus pandemic has therefore provided the perfect catalyst to a war which began much earlier against China (see John Pilger’s film The Coming War with China). The main difference before was that the US was pretty much on its own. The UK for its part had been courting China for years, trying to be its ‘best friend in the West’ so as to encourage inward investment. Not any more, the Tory hawks say now. According to Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab there will be ‘no more business as usual with China’. He has promised a ‘deep dive review’ as to how coronavirus was able to spread from China. And he’s not alone.  Last week a new Conservative China Research Group was founded with the goal of reassessing Britain’s future relationship with the country. There’s to be a completely new approach.  A senior Conservative MP told the FT
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Re: Covid-19 Is the Perfect Catalyst for Trump’s War Against China
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2020, 12:13:06 AM »
Wow Wiz there is some merit to this. Something that is rare for you. The truth the virus did a lot for the world to see that having all there money ending in up in China by buying products is not good for the rest of the world. What this virus did was let everyone see how globalization is not working for the rest of the world. We need to have factories more evenly distributed about the world and a more balance trade will do more for more countries than all the money and power ending up in China. 

Huawei is not an independent company but one own and used by the Chinese government. They have the full backing of the Chinese government and unlimited funds at there exposal. Part of the Chinese plan is to dominate the telecommunications business displacing western companies. More over China would likely use it to spy on people to at first to gain info on marketing to help displace workers in the UK like Manny. They would know what platforms he sells on and the price of every item he sells and how much he makes on each sell. Then set up someone to replace him in China or a Chinese person working in the UK. What ever it takes to get another Chinese person a job. It is not that the person in China is bad but do you really want to give him your livelihood.  Remember there are 700 million Chinese people in China that are living in third world country and China wants to move there standard of living up to a first world country. Their method of doing this will end up displacing more workers in the west with Chinese. After the store and mall business dies they are wanting to be the world largest on line retailer at every level.  Huawei can be very helpful in helping them do this.

China is not like the West. They have five year plans which the government makes plans to dominate more business every five years as part of it's economic development.  This virus did a lot of helping the world see that they do not have need medical supplies because they were made in China rather than locally. Now a number of countries are starting to see how they are giving up their sovereignty by becoming so dependent on Chinese imports. Going forward this is not the end of the Chinese as a world leader but maybe they will have to grow a little slower and live with a more balanced trade with other developed nations.

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Re: Covid-19 Is the Perfect Catalyst for Trump’s War Against China
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2020, 04:16:22 AM »
I must admit that reading your comments I fell on the floor laughing of your naivety. You appear not to have a clue about politics and economics. Don’t understand that whatever happens today in your country is the result of the Capitalistic System you love to have. Have you not understood that your Capitalist system is working only for very few and very rich persons while the rest of your population is paying a high price in its effort to survive?

 :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

Was it the poor workers who asked their owners to transfer production to China from were you re-import the products designed in USA and are produced in China? Obviously your do understand that your country cannot compete with China anymore, a Communistic Country playing with Capitalistic rules, and you don’t like it! I suggest you read your own history about the Unions and your working class. You are just A Nation of Gangsters and nothing more but if you have taken the same approach like China you still would remain the No 1 Empire.

Now the world it’s not a US Monopoly, but a multi polar world.

The USA since the WWII has based it’s economy on your Defence industries. Have created 900 + bases around the world, to control almost every nation, and have invaded and destroyed too many countries killing also too many innocent people and now your country is fast going down rapidly and you react like a person dying who start kicking in desperation.

In England they say…. “What is good for the Goose it’s good for the gander too”.

The fact of the matter is simple. China with a population 4 times larger than yours, have expanded quietly all over the world and the USA has helped them to do it, because of your few rich people greediness to make larger profits by producing their products in China.

All the accusations you make against China and Huawei the US has been doing it for years, Google, Face Book, Telephone, Satellites etc including CIA, NSA and every other electronic media or otherwise US entity without paying any taxes to our countries.

Simply your cry wolf because you have been fcuked from the astute and silent China.

The more I read the more I am convinced that was the US who instigated paying the Whuan Laboratory to create this terrible Virus and in 2015 you stop your co-operation, took your product and last years planted in the fish Market…..so to accuse the Chinese but it backfired as your gangster President took no measurements to protect your people.    Look the numbers daily!

I expect you have watched the US Videos I have posted. If you haven’t just watch them, you will be educated.

What is your National Debt today…… over 23 Trillions……..same like the number mentioned by your president he will ask China to pay as compensation!

BTW Manny is a trader..... and he makes money dealing with China but not with USA.

Manny I expect is paying taxes in this country so I hope the party in Power should enact a Law  and charge Taxes to all Foreign companies trading electronically or other ways in the UK and NOt paying any taxes...... like your Billionaire Bezos, Google, Microsoft, Facebook etc.