Covid-19 / Coronavirus / China Virus Information

[andrewfi]

It appears that there is some 'confusion' about the situation in Slovakia.
1) There is political pressure to not use the vaccine there. As in the rest of the EU, truth dies when political conflict arises.
2) There was some kind of concern about one batch of the Sputnik vaccine delivered to Slovakia. It seems from what I have seen that the claimed data deficit was in respect of the batch in question. Whether any claimed issues were real or fictional I do not know.

The issue as we can see has been morphed into something different and larger because, yes, Sputnik has been fully evaluated, the testing results have been published in the Lancet as well as being evaluated by the EMA and the vaccine is in use in many countries around the world following local approval processes.

[Markje]

Slovakia's State Institute for Drug Control said earlier Thursday that about 80% of the data required to evaluate Sputnik V's safety and effectiveness was missing, despite multiple requests. It was worried about the quality of 200,000 doses that the country had received, it said.

Interesting, so Slovakia is going up against the EMA then, that said Sputnik is safe and all the data is there.

Why does Germany not used Sputnik?

I just said they bought a few million doses of Sputnik. Do you have any info they aren't using them?

[andrewfi]

 Germany has said that they do not plan to use Sputnik until the EMA approves it.

[BillyB]

Boris says lockdowns, not vaccination was the key for a drop in cases. Considering a high percentage of citizens have been vaccinated in the UK, it seems like a blow to the vaccination program. The strategy for mass vaccination using experimental vaccines has never been tried before. Some experts predicted mass vaccinations won't help but it can hurt.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-lockdown-is-main-reason-for-drop-in-coronavirus-cases-and-deaths-not-vaccinations-says-boris-johnson-12274266

[andrewfi]

No, it is about timing. Go look at a calendar, ask for help in working out what proportion of the population was vaccinated and plot it against the fall in infections.

The prime minister did not say that vaccination had had no effect indeed, vaccination has been estimated to have reduced deaths by some 6000 in the UK.

Vaccination is what will remove the need for further lockdowns as more of the population is fully vaccinated in the UK. In the UK 61% of the population has had at least one treatment.

Billy, time runs from past to future (physicists and philosophers can argue differently but for humans that's what we see). Lockdowns are time limited events, as are their outcomes. Vaccination is less time bound but have the same effect in limiting the number of infections, longer term I'll health and deaths.

As lockdown is relaxed the burden will pass to vaccination programs and long term community immunity.

We have been fortunate, it has taken just a few months from first knowing about the virus to being in sight of the end of the pandemic - in the UK at least. As in previous pandemics, the effect will continue to roll around the world for a couple of years or so.

[BillyB]

US halts the J & J vaccine. I'm sure they'll later announce the health problems and deaths are worth it.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-calls-pause-johnson-johnson-vaccinations-blood-clot/story?id=77040882

For those who are loving vaccines, they are already developing your next shot. Big Pharma will also receive protection from being sued and be allowed to bypass safety tests so it'll get to the market sooner. This will be like a carrousel with no end in site.

[Texan77]

Slovakia's State Institute for Drug Control said earlier Thursday that about 80% of the data required to evaluate Sputnik V's safety and effectiveness was missing, despite multiple requests. It was worried about the quality of 200,000 doses that the country had received, it said.

Interesting, so Slovakia is going up against the EMA then, that said Sputnik is safe and all the data is there.

The poorly written article makes it hard to understand what happened. I missed part of the article by not knowing I needed by not knowing I needed to scroll down.  But now I read more and different articles it appears Slovakia did not get the sputnik vaccine but rather one of the other Russian made vaccines without any data or EMA approval. Russia has three Vaccines is it selling.  Slovakia is complaining there is no data on the version of the Russian vaccine they got.

Below copied from article linked below.

Russian authorities have given regulatory approval to three domestically developed shots — Sputnik V, EpiVacCorona and CoviVac.

However, a study published in February in the British medical journal the Lancet showed that Sputnik V is 91% effective and appears to prevent inoculated individuals from becoming severely ill with COVID-19, although it’s still unclear whether the vaccine can prevent the spread of the disease. No data on efficacy of the two other vaccines have been released.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-president-putin-gets-2nd-covid-19-vaccine-shot/ar-BB1fDARy?ocid=msedgntp

[Texan77]

US halts the J & J vaccine. I'm sure they'll later announce the health problems and deaths are worth it.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-calls-pause-johnson-johnson-vaccinations-blood-clot/story?id=77040882

For those who are loving vaccines, they are already developing your next shot. Big Pharma will also receive protection from being sued and be allowed to bypass safety tests so it'll get to the market sooner. This will be like a carrousel with no end in site.

The newest version of the virus is also twice as lethal as the original and is killing younger people more. I thought you liked the J&J vaccine because it was not an mRNA? All vaccines cause some problems when given to millions of people. It does not matter how many years you test them that is the nature of the beast. If you do not want any body hurt by vaccines then you just need to let diseases run their courses. Hospital also kill people so maybe we should just close them too  . Medical mistakes by doctors kill people so maybe we should do away with them also.

[BillyB]

I thought you liked the J&J vaccine because it was not an mRNA?

All vaccines on the market are experimental and everybody taking them is part of the experiment. mRNA is a new technology. We may learn it causes no problems this year but like experts have warned, we may discover it makes our immune system dysfunctional. Texan, it's unrealistic to believe there will be a happy ending with every rushed vaccine that came out recently. We only get to learn the immediate problems. Years from now we may be able see additional problems. The government may someday write you a letter apologizing for their mistake and that is all you'll get because you can't sue.

More nations limit Astrazeneca to people over 60. Denmark permanently bans Astrazeneca.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1423008/Denmark-AstraZeneca-vaccine-ban-Oxford-jab-latest-Covid-coronavirus-updates

https://www.businesstoday.in/sectors/pharma/australia-philippines-african-union-ban-astrazeneca-covid-19-shot/story/436143.html

[Faux Pas]

More info about the source of the virus. It appears the Wuhan lab found away to get USA funding.

If the virus goes away then government loses power. How can we have big spending bills in the USA if we have no virus. So let keep everyone scared.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/dr-siegel-on-concern-of-lacing-public-health-messaging-with-politics/vi-BB1fgHnH?ocid=msedgdhp

Doesn't this give you enough consternation about the virus and the vaccine to stay away from all of it? Do you really still trust such a system enough to let it stick you with untested vaccines? You've got maniacs in charge of the CDC funded by Dr. Bill Gates and the UN all peddled by Fake News = a pandemic and they are pushing poison as fast as it can be manufactured and distributed. It's time to WTF up

[Texan77]

From what I have been reading most virologist believe the Covid-19 will never go way. Modena is starting make a yearly vaccine which will include the flu also. Over the next few years nearly 100 per cent of the people that are not vaccinated and do not stay current will be getting Covid-19. Some companies that make flu vaccines are wanting to get into this business by making a much cheaper vaccine that can be stored at normal temperatures that can be given every year. They want to use the same technology they used for the flu.

It will be interesting as we are getting ready to start the next phase of the pandemic. The realization it will last forever.

[Faux Pas]

From what I have been reading most virologist believe the Covid-19 will never go way. Modena is starting make a yearly vaccine which will include the flu also. Over the next few years nearly 100 per cent of the people that are not vaccinated and do not stay current will be getting Covid-19. Some companies that make flu vaccines are wanting to get into this business by making a much cheaper vaccine that can be stored at normal temperatures that can be given every year. They want to use the same technology they used for the flu.

It will be interesting as we are getting ready to start the next phase of the pandemic. The realization it will last forever.

The minute I think you may have taken a step forward and had an epiphany, I discover you have taken two steps backwards. Even with your posts that are pretty revealing it would appear you still don't get it. The people who chose to not vaccinate will have most likely as with other viruses developed immunity to the virus that they would have had a 99.8 % chance of survival anyway.

Think about that for a minute, you take and encourage others to take a vaccine that has at best a 70% efficacy for a virus that you have a 98.8% chance of survival. Have you seriously done that math? Not to mention the vaccine is by admittance of the developer changing your immune system. The very immune system that given a chance will develop immunity to the virus on it's own.

The next phase of the pandemic is going to be millions of folks needing vaccine booster shots on a monthly basis because their immune systems no longer can repel viruses and other illnesses on their own. Do you still believe you are following the science?

[Contrarian]

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COVID Vaccines Are Designed ‘To Kill You And Your Family’ With ‘Plausible Deniability’


"April 7, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the industry leading new medicines research and retired from the pharmaceutical giant with “the most senior research position” in his field, spoke with LifeSiteNews in a telephone interview.

He addressed the “demonstrably false” propaganda from governments in response to COVID-19, including the “lie” of dangerous variants, the totalitarian potential for “vaccine passports,” and the strong possibility we are dealing with a “conspiracy” which could lead to something far beyond the carnage experienced in the wars and massacres of the 20th century."


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death

[Contrarian]

Pittbull on the link between Covid and Communism.

             

[Contrarian]

DeSantis regrets locking down his state.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/desantis-lockdowns-were-a-huge-mistake_3777926.html?&utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-04-16-1&mktids=d8630dd65bdcb7e33ee18e42e2e146ec&est=4PwriUcqAvdsWB3tS4%2BswvonFYJssmdUpAdgllfE4B%2Bbp2p1VT%2BCgPp%2Bylwpurt6

[Contrarian]

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“Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in years to come, with the working class and younger members of society carrying the heaviest burden. Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice.

Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed.“




https://gbdeclaration.org/

[Texan77]

From what I have been reading most virologist believe the Covid-19 will never go way. Modena is starting make a yearly vaccine which will include the flu also. Over the next few years nearly 100 per cent of the people that are not vaccinated and do not stay current will be getting Covid-19. Some companies that make flu vaccines are wanting to get into this business by making a much cheaper vaccine that can be stored at normal temperatures that can be given every year. They want to use the same technology they used for the flu.

It will be interesting as we are getting ready to start the next phase of the pandemic. The realization it will last forever.

The minute I think you may have taken a step forward and had an epiphany, I discover you have taken two steps backwards. Even with your posts that are pretty revealing it would appear you still don't get it. The people who chose to not vaccinate will have most likely as with other viruses developed immunity to the virus that they would have had a 99.8 % chance of survival anyway.

Think about that for a minute, you take and encourage others to take a vaccine that has at best a 70% efficacy for a virus that you have a 98.8% chance of survival. Have you seriously done that math? Not to mention the vaccine is by admittance of the developer changing your immune system. The very immune system that given a chance will develop immunity to the virus on it's own.

The next phase of the pandemic is going to be millions of folks needing vaccine booster shots on a monthly basis because their immune systems no longer can repel viruses and other illnesses on their own. Do you still believe you are following the science?

It they survive the first round of the virus they are immune just like they had the shot. Also many people who are damaged with the first round of the virus die when they get it again.

Yes vaccine do change you immune system. They make it better because that is what vaccines do. I have been taking the flu vaccine for years and have never developed anything liker your talking about. Your just making stuff up.

[Contrarian]

From what I have been reading most virologist believe the Covid-19 will never go way. Modena is starting make a yearly vaccine which will include the flu also. Over the next few years nearly 100 per cent of the people that are not vaccinated and do not stay current will be getting Covid-19. Some companies that make flu vaccines are wanting to get into this business by making a much cheaper vaccine that can be stored at normal temperatures that can be given every year. They want to use the same technology they used for the flu.

It will be interesting as we are getting ready to start the next phase of the pandemic. The realization it will last forever.

The minute I think you may have taken a step forward and had an epiphany, I discover you have taken two steps backwards. Even with your posts that are pretty revealing it would appear you still don't get it. The people who chose to not vaccinate will have most likely as with other viruses developed immunity to the virus that they would have had a 99.8 % chance of survival anyway.

Think about that for a minute, you take and encourage others to take a vaccine that has at best a 70% efficacy for a virus that you have a 98.8% chance of survival. Have you seriously done that math? Not to mention the vaccine is by admittance of the developer changing your immune system. The very immune system that given a chance will develop immunity to the virus on it's own.

The next phase of the pandemic is going to be millions of folks needing vaccine booster shots on a monthly basis because their immune systems no longer can repel viruses and other illnesses on their own. Do you still believe you are following the science?

It they survive the first round of the virus they are immune just like they had the shot. Also many people who are damaged with the first round of the virus die when they get it again.

Yes vaccine do change you immune system. They make it better because that is what vaccines do. I have been taking the flu vaccine for years and have never developed anything liker your talking about. Your just making stuff up.

You're assuming these new experimental vaccines which were rushed to market are much the same as the Flu vaccine.

I just posted an article upthread by one of the former executives of Pfizer who says you are wrong.

He's not "just making stuff up".

In fact you are the one who is making stuff up.

You're making up a fantasy scenario about Vaccines which were rushed to market and about which we really don't know the long term effects.

Partial repost for the reading impaired.

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"April 7, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the industry leading new medicines research and retired from the pharmaceutical giant with “the most senior research position” in his field, spoke with LifeSiteNews in a telephone interview.

He addressed the “demonstrably false” propaganda from governments in response to COVID-19, including the “lie” of dangerous variants, the totalitarian potential for “vaccine passports,” and the strong possibility we are dealing with a “conspiracy” which could lead to something far beyond the carnage experienced in the wars and massacres of the 20th century."

[Gipsy]

Food for thought.

https://twitter.com/sputnikvaccine/status/1382982134386819072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1382982134386819072%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fnews%2F521313-pvt-bloodclot-mrna-covid-vaccines%2F

[Texan77]

Contrarian the one thing you not is original. You just follow the heard of the extreme right wing who blindly think they are supporting the USA while really do it a lot of harm. Why don 't you post the interview? I wonder who paid him to say that if he even did? The reality is what is happening in India.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/india-has-a-double-mutant-virus-variant-should-we-worry/ar-BB1fIIDR?ocid=msedgntp

[Contrarian]

Why don 't you post the interview?

You really are thick-headed and slow.

I have already posted the interview with him twice. If you're too damn lazy to read it, that just reflects back on your poor character.

I also posted the Great Barrington Declaration, where THOUSANDS of real Doctors and legitimate scientists denounce the way that the media, in collusion with Big Pharma, have been handling this crisis.

It has absolutely nothing, zero, to do with "right wing" or left wing. They make that abundantly clear.

You're just lazy and unwilling to consider that Fauci, who is paid by Big Pharma for his lies and obfuscations, is a big part of the problem.

Lazy, dumb, poorly educated lemmings are what is wrong with the USA. 

[Contrarian]

On hydroxychlorolquine and Big Pharma's control of the media:

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Dr. Dousty-Blazy, the former French Health Minister, Under Secretary General of UN, and candidate for Director of WHO has publicly stated that The Lancet and the NEJM Editors admit to being pressured by pharmaceutical companies to publish certain results.

The Lancet’s boss ... said ... the pharmaceutical companies are so financially powerful today and are able to use such methodologies as to have us accept papers which ... in reality manage to conclude what they want ... I have been doing research for 20 years of my life. I never thought the boss of The Lancet could say that. And the boss of the NEJM too. He even said it was "criminal".

https://assets.website-files.com/606d3a50c62e44338008303d/6076fe1361cd5d631ecb0a32_White-Paper-on-HCQ-2020.2.pdf

[Contrarian]

The FDA has broken the law! CV19 vaccines more dangerous than Covid.

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=54842

[BillyB]

Earlier I reported infections rising in the nation. In my county infections are rising although 60% of the population has one or more shots of the vaccine. A certain number who had COVID has natural temporary immunity. It's possible 70% of the population in the country supposedly has immunity from the virus and although we are rolling into warmer weather, infections have increased and my governor is talking about going back to more restrictions. Go figure.

http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/coronavirus-vaccine-milestones-reached-king-county-infections-rise/WS4I5UJ2BZHFDD7RHPIZBLJTKQ/

[Gipsy]

Worth a watch IMHO, hilarious..

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/a-syringe-full-of-death_p6OD36cuNLAkiQW.html