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ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« on: April 11, 2020, 09:31:18 PM »
With a Quarter of the World’s Population,
Under US Sanctions, Countries Appeal to UN to Intervene


Eight countries, representing around one-quarter of all humanity, say that Washington’s actions are undermining their response to the COVID–19 pandemic sweeping the planet.

The governments of China, Cuba, Iran, Nicaragua, North Korea, Russia, Syria, and Venezuela – all under sanctions from the United States – sent a joint statement to the United Nations Secretary-General, the UN’s High Commissioner on Human Rights and the Director-General of the World Health Organization calling for an end to the unilateral American economic blockade, as they are, “illegal and blatantly violate international law and the charter of the United Nations.”

The eight countries, representing around one-quarter of humanity, say that Washington’s actions are undermining their response to the COVID–19 pandemic sweeping the planet. “The destructive impact of said measures at the national level, plus their extraterritorial implication, together with the phenomenon of over-compliance and the fear for ‘secondary sanctions,’ hinder the ability of national governments” in procuring even basic medical equipment and supplies, including coronavirus test kits and medicine. It is a “hard if not impossible deed for those countries who are currently facing the application of unilateral coercive measures,” to cope, they conclude.

The letter was shared on Twitter by Joaquin Perez, Venezuela’s Permanent Ambassador to the UN.


That U.S. sanctions are “blatant violations of international law,” the letter states, is not in doubt. As the American Special Rapporteur to the UN, Alfred de Zayas, notes, only sanctions expressly verified and imposed collectively by the UN Security Council can be considered legal; any unilateral punishment is, by definition, illegal.

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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2020, 01:56:24 AM »
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a Quarter of the World’s Population Under US Sanctions

There's an interesting statistic.
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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2020, 05:40:01 AM »
Hmm ,

'no doubt' as to the 'illegality' of the sanctions ...says who ?..Wiz?

Example: IF America(or other ) nations wish to punish states that steal pieces of others' sovereign and agreed territory... should they be 'patted on the back ?'

Some US sanctions are appropriate - others not .. Other nations can either agree and join in or organise ways to circumvent them 
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Re: Illegal Sancations by the USA
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2020, 05:44:44 AM »
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a Quarter of the World’s Population Under US Sanctions

There's an interesting statistic.

I understood from RUA that the sanctions do not work.
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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2020, 05:59:03 AM »
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a Quarter of the World’s Population Under US Sanctions

There's an interesting statistic.

I understood from RUA that the sanctions do not work.

READ the article and then ask questions........and you will know the truth

if you really like the truth!

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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2020, 09:43:11 AM »

Wiz, are any of those nations willing to stop killing their people, their neighbors, and/or stop creating banned weapons so they may get more medical supplies and food to save lives? If they want something, they got to give something. How bad do they want to help their people?
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2020, 09:50:50 AM »

Wiz, are any of those nations willing to stop killing their people, their neighbors, and/or stop creating banned weapons so they may get more medical supplies and food to save lives? If they want something, they got to give something. How bad do they want to help their people?

BillyB... that is great news... When will the USA, Russia and China be joining in banning Cluster Bombs

http://www.stopclustermunitions.org/en-gb/the-treaty/treaty-status.aspx

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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2020, 10:16:53 AM »
China, Cuba, Iran, Nicaragua, North Korea, Russia, Syria, and Venezuela

So surprising that Wizzer the Grecian Marxist would waank on for countries lead by Tyrants, Presidents for Life and hard core Communists with horrendous human rights records ... The average Venezuelan has lost 30 lbs due to Marxist Socialist food scarcities

Greek Marxist Socialistas... Unite.

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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2020, 11:03:00 AM »
China, Cuba, Iran, Nicaragua, North Korea, Russia, Syria, and Venezuela

So surprising that Wizzer the Grecian Marxist would waank on for countries lead by Tyrants, Presidents for Life and hard core Communists with horrendous human rights records ... The average Venezuelan has lost 30 lbs due to Marxist Socialist food scarcities

Greek Marxist Socialistas... Unite.

Point being nobody appointed you lot world cop.

Sanctions are the tool of choice when an actual invasion and regime change would fail spectacularly under the watching eyes of the world. In other words, you try to bully countries financially you couldn't win a war against.

The US Imperialist Empire is fading into obscurity now, even faster now its headed by a bouffanted, orange dotard who last week thought the virus was fake. Having not had a good outcome to a war, invasion or funded coup since before Vietnam, and increasingly being treated as an irrelevance by the likes of Russia, Iran, Syria and North Korea, we *expect* you to go down screaming and lashing out.

Imagine a world where y'all stopped pressurising and invading other countries? Hard to imagine I know..........
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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2020, 11:12:48 AM »
a bouffanted, orange dotard who last week thought the virus was fake.


That is what the media says. When America had 6 cases and zero deaths, Trump cut off China. When we had 38 deaths, Trump cut off most of Europe. Those are tough actions against a fake virus no other world leader has taken before Trump.

Trump downplayed the virus because it's his job to not create panic. Panic will kill more than the virus. There's just enough scare out there to get people to hoard toilet paper. We don't need any more scare than that.
"Billy, go read. You don't need to be an 'expert' to read. Billy, again read stuff. Even if this disease ends up being serious, in a few months it will be gone. That's how these things work." quote by forum epidemic and virology expert Andrewfi Jan 28, 2020 on the coronavirus

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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2020, 11:24:50 AM »
Wiz, are any of those nations willing to stop killing their people, their neighbors, and/or stop creating banned weapons so they may get more medical supplies and food to save lives? If they want something, they got to give something. How bad do they want to help their people?

BillyB... Black is black and not white..... find an idiot to talk as I despise traitors and collaborators of their Birth Country! Pitty that Ho Chi Ming did not catch up with you!  :sick0012:

I will not waste my time to answer to your comments because everybody in the world know well that the only Mafia state that invades, steals, planters and has been killing foreign officials and also millions of innocent people around the world, is the  USA.

If that it is not true.... why them the US needs to have so many bases and army all over the world?  ... You are all brainwashed and can't see beyond your nose.

"Despite recently closing hundreds of bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad%u2014from giant "Little Americas" to small radar facilities. Britain, France and Russia, by contrast, have about 30 foreign bases combined."

All  the small countries that have suffered under your charitable work and help , in the past 75 years.... know very well who to thank for their problems.

China, Cuba, Iran, Nicaragua, North Korea, Russia, Syria, and Venezuela

So surprising that Wizzer the Grecian Marxist would waank on for countries lead by Tyrants, Presidents for Life and hard core Communists with horrendous human rights records ... The average Venezuelan has lost 30 lbs due to Marxist Socialist food scarcities

Greek Marxist Socialistas... Unite.
Poor Cuffy have you taken your pills or still have nightmares?

Wall street is doing fantastic job and soon we will see the end of the Dollar....and you clever Mafia President is still farting with his mouth......!

Imagine a world where y'all stopped pressurising and invading other countries? Hard to imagine I know..........


Without the exceptional Nation.... my ass...USA of course!
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2020, 01:17:15 PM »
The USA has these sanctions for reasons whether you agree or not, the rest of the world does not have to follow them
Most sanctions are in place because of the actions of each country.

You can agree or disagree, thats just politics and best I can tell most people
never agree on politics. As said above, if these countries wish to change polices
the sanctions would be dropped, if wanted bad enough to protect their own people
they would make the changes instead of trying to force something that will never Happen.

No US no UN I think fairly reasonable assumption.
There is nothing permanent except change.

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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2020, 03:09:18 PM »
Wiz, Here is a song for you!

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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2020, 03:14:36 PM »
You forgot one country. We are having a trade war with China. Putting a tariff on Chinese goods is a form of sanctioning our selves.  Sanction only work if Russia and China support them. Either they do not mean much or they supported by Russia and China.  I do not care what it says in Russian support news that the truth.

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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2020, 04:46:12 PM »
Point being nobody appointed you lot world cop.

Yeah, so as it happens, when we leave you Europeans unsupervised you seem intent on popping out spittle-emitting, genocidal dictators, so we're the "adult supervision" that you so desperately need. 

Sanctions are the tool of choice when an actual invasion and regime change would fail spectacularly under the watching eyes of the world. In other words, you try to bully countries financially you couldn't win a war against.

5 of those 8 are non-nuclear powers.  And I'm pretty sure the Venezuelans would be happy to have food again.   

The US Imperialist Empire is fading into obscurity now....

Trump got us off the slow bleed that China had us on, in cahoots with the Swamp.  Get rid of Wormtongue and Theoden was fine again. 

If anyone should be worried it's China; if America fully decouples, they are well and truly fcuked.  The Vietnamese etc. will be happy to produce things for us, minus the Chinese Imperialism.

Having not had a good outcome to a war, invasion or funded coup since before Vietnam, and increasingly being treated as an irrelevance by the likes of Russia, Iran, Syria and North Korea, we *expect* you to go down screaming and lashing out.

Lulz.  I realize you hate America, Manny, but do wake up from your fever dream.

Imagine a world where y'all stopped pressurising and invading other countries? Hard to imagine I know..........

Imagine a world in which we didn't have to enforce Pax Americana.  We'd be perfectly happy with that....although it would be difficult to wean our liberals away from the Great Globalist Wank-off. 

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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2020, 08:17:38 PM »
I despise traitors and collaborators of their Birth Country! Pitty that Ho Chi Ming did not catch up with you! 


If you were born in the ghetto, are you supposed to honor the ghetto? The communist leaders put some of my relatives in jail because they didn't have the same political beliefs. Vietnam then and still today remains a very poor nation. I'm not going to honor Ho Chi Minh.

As far as sanctions go, if nations don't like it, they can buy their food and goods from China and Russia. If they remain poor and hungry after doing business with China and Russia, don't blame the USA.
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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2020, 12:51:50 AM »
The USA has these sanctions for reasons whether you agree or not, the rest of the world does not have to follow them
Most sanctions are in place because of the actions of each country.
I would have thought you are more intelligent than your above reply!

Your country has signed the North American Agreement and it's subservient to the rules and conditions imposed to you by the Mafia president of your big neighbour.

You can agree or disagree, thats just politics and best I can tell most people
never agree on politics. As said above, if these countries wish to change polices
the sanctions would be dropped, if wanted bad enough to protect their own people
they would make the changes instead of trying to force something that will never Happen.
Is this attitude of yours, a left over from the British Rule and the British Queen still on your currency?

No US no UN I think fairly reasonable assumption.

Been a neighbour of the USA has this kind of influence of servitude that you are exibidding .....with your comments! Maybe a left over from British Rule.

Pity you have not read the views of your co-patriot ......

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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2020, 03:54:46 AM »
The USA has these sanctions for reasons whether you agree or not, the rest of the world does not have to follow them
Most sanctions are in place because of the actions of each country.
I would have thought you are more intelligent than your above reply!

Your country has signed the North American Agreement and it's subservient to the rules and conditions imposed to you by the Mafia president of your big neighbour.

You can agree or disagree, thats just politics and best I can tell most people
never agree on politics. As said above, if these countries wish to change polices
the sanctions would be dropped, if wanted bad enough to protect their own people
they would make the changes instead of trying to force something that will never Happen.
Is this attitude of yours, a left over from the British Rule and the British Queen still on your currency?

No US no UN I think fairly reasonable assumption.

Been a neighbour of the USA has this kind of influence of servitude that you are exibidding .....with your comments! Maybe a left over from British Rule.

Pity you have not read the views of your co-patriot ......

.. Naomi Klein

 tiphat
Changing what I wrote and then quoting is cute.
You might agree with what these countries do to people
Most don't.

There is nothing permanent except change.

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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2020, 04:26:04 AM »
China, Cuba, Iran, Nicaragua, North Korea, Russia, Syria, and Venezuela

So surprising that Wizzer the Grecian Marxist would waank on for countries lead by Tyrants, Presidents for Life and hard core Communists with horrendous human rights records ... The average Venezuelan has lost 30 lbs due to Marxist Socialist food scarcities

Greek Marxist Socialistas... Unite.
Gee, what a coincidence all the countries not under the Rothschild banking system.


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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2020, 04:27:17 AM »
I despise traitors and collaborators of their Birth Country! Pitty that Ho Chi Ming did not catch up with you! 

A) If you were born in the ghetto, are you supposed to honor the ghetto? The communist leaders put some of my relatives in jail because they didn't have the same political beliefs. Vietnam then and still today remains a very poor nation. I'm not going to honor Ho Chi Minh.

B) As far as sanctions go, if nations don't like it, they can buy their food and goods from China and Russia. If they remain poor and hungry after doing business with China and Russia, don't blame the USA.

A) Greece never had any Ghetto's until the arrival of the ILLEGAL immigrants. My father and I were both born in a provincial Town, NW of Greece.

My birth country was always divided politically between right and Left parties and many atrocities have taken place over the years.. The foreign powers always have been interfering in our domestic political system .....DIVIDE AND RULE..was and is the tool used by the big powers. Nothing New..... but that does not give any excuse to anybody to collaborate with any enemies of his birth country. As I have already posted my father was executed by the communists in the civil war, that does not given me the right or excuse to collaborate with any foreign enemies of my country. I am sure you know that Greece is already financially a very poor country!

B) I have not read about any other country imposing sanctions to any other country to gain support in it's commercial trading with that country.

Why the USA has imposed sanctions to N. Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and also to the other countries mentioned previously?

It is clear to everybody that the US impose Sanctions to other small countries to control and benefit accordingly.

What was the reason for USA to impose Sanctions to the Swiss and other companies that were building the North Stream 2 pipe line between Russia and Germany?

Do you think the Germans are stupid to buy your shale and very expensive gas and depend it's industry productivity to your LNG supplies?

Find some child and talk about these matters....

I stand by my statement: "I despise traitors and collaborators of their Birth Country! Pity that Ho Chi Ming did not catch up with you!"



 




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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2020, 04:36:22 AM »
The USA has these sanctions for reasons whether you agree or not, the rest of the world does not have to follow them
Most sanctions are in place because of the actions of each country.
I would have thought you are more intelligent than your above reply!

Your country has signed the North American Agreement and it's subservient to the rules and conditions imposed to you by the Mafia president of your big neighbour.

You can agree or disagree, thats just politics and best I can tell most people
never agree on politics. As said above, if these countries wish to change polices
the sanctions would be dropped, if wanted bad enough to protect their own people
they would make the changes instead of trying to force something that will never Happen.
Is this attitude of yours, a left over from the British Rule and the British Queen still on your currency?

No US no UN I think fairly reasonable assumption.

Been a neighbour of the USA has this kind of influence of servitude that you are exibidding .....with your comments! Maybe a left over from British Rule.

Pity you have not read the views of your co-patriot ......

.. Naomi Klein

 tiphat
Changing what I wrote and then quoting is cute.
You might agree with what these countries do to people
Most don't.

Can you please show me where I have changed your comments?

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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2020, 04:42:39 AM »
China, Cuba, Iran, Nicaragua, North Korea, Russia, Syria, and Venezuela

So surprising that Wizzer the Grecian Marxist would waank on for countries lead by Tyrants, Presidents for Life and hard core Communists with horrendous human rights records ... The average Venezuelan has lost 30 lbs due to Marxist Socialist food scarcities

Greek Marxist Socialistas... Unite.
Gee, what a coincidence all the countries not under the Rothschild banking system.

Oh Really.... that's a very big surprise!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2020, 04:51:50 AM »
The USA has these sanctions for reasons whether you agree or not, the rest of the world does not have to follow them
Most sanctions are in place because of the actions of each country.
I would have thought you are more intelligent than your above reply!

Your country has signed the North American Agreement and it's subservient to the rules and conditions imposed to you by the Mafia president of your big neighbour.

You can agree or disagree, thats just politics and best I can tell most people
never agree on politics. As said above, if these countries wish to change polices
the sanctions would be dropped, if wanted bad enough to protect their own people
they would make the changes instead of trying to force something that will never Happen.
Is this attitude of yours, a left over from the British Rule and the British Queen still on your currency?

No US no UN I think fairly reasonable assumption.

Been a neighbour of the USA has this kind of influence of servitude that you are exibidding .....with your comments! Maybe a left over from British Rule.

Pity you have not read the views of your co-patriot ......

.. Naomi Klein

 tiphat
Changing what I wrote and then quoting is cute.
You might agree with what these countries do to people
Most don't.
I don't agree with what some leaders do, but sanctions do nothing to stop so-called tyranny.

I don't particularly like what the US government is doing to its people as well.

Sanctions are used to weaken economies, control the narrative and in the end enact regime change. Especially, to countries with nuclear weapons capabilities who are governed by the dollar, e.g., Russia.

Otherwise, they bomb the f^&k out of them on top of the sanctions.

Let me give you a small example of what US backed sanctions are doing even now. Iran, one of the worst hit countries from the coronavirus and the US does what? Step up the sanctions on that country.

You tell me, is that because they're worried about the people's well being?

Stop drinking the kool-aid and understand the real impact of sanctions and tell me they are imposed to help the locals from their evil tyrant. Sanctions cut off necessities like food and medicine (which kills many, many sick people who would otherwise, you know, live), cause high unemployment, and restricts GDP that help kill many more than any tyrant.

Read up on the atrocities throughout the world that the great caring country known as the USA have done.

When you're done reading about the Middle East, head east to Asia and then make your way to Central and South America.

USA wants regime change, that's all sanction help do. Cut me a break.

The biggest threat to world peace in the US neoliberal government. Sanctions have never worked and only unites people within that country.
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Re: ILLEGAL SANCTIONS BY USA
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2020, 05:09:20 AM »
Sanctions have never worked and only unites people within that country.

But 3 Examples of sanctions that worked :

1/ Anti-apartheid vis-a-vis S.Africa ( Sporting Sanctions)

2/ Sanctions on specific Russians involved in the 'takeover' in Crimea or away games in E.Ukraine ... it's hurting .. it's just not admitted..

3/  Joint sanctions on Iran - until 'Trampu' upped the anti
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« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2020, 08:38:47 AM »
Why the USA has imposed sanctions to N. Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and also to the other countries mentioned previously?


Let's say we're neighbors and you have some investment in my land. I seize your investment, I ship drugs to your family, I build dangerous weapons to point them at your house and I hang banners in my house that say "Death to Wiz", would you like it and want to continue to do business with me?

Why is it America's fault they are hungry and suffering financially? If America is bad, they shouldn't want to do business with America. They can go find other friends but if America is the hand that feeds them, they shouldn't bite it.
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