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DNA Testing
« on: March 29, 2020, 05:21:40 PM »
These Greeks are everywhere...........

We did DNA tests recently and wifey came out about 90% Russian, a bit of general European and Balkan and 2.5% Greek.

I knew the cupboards were full of Olive Oil for a reason....

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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2020, 12:38:29 AM »
These Greeks are everywhere...........

We did DNA tests recently and wifey came out about 90% Russian, a bit of general European and Balkan and 2.5% Greek.

I knew the cupboards were full of Olive Oil for a reason....

So my comment was correct!  :laugh:  Good sign for your health.......
In Greece we say: " Eat Olive Oil and visit me tonight!  :ROFL:

Lucky chap.. wife keeps you away from the British fat food and I expect is cooking healthy Med food.

Read this article. Start the Mediterranean Diet

The site has daily a free healthy recipe .........

PS: My wife loves my Greek tasty Cooking!

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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2020, 01:58:27 AM »
These Greeks are everywhere...........

We did DNA tests recently and wifey came out about 90% Russian, a bit of general European and Balkan and 2.5% Greek.

I knew the cupboards were full of Olive Oil for a reason....

Because food tastes better baked in Olive Oil than in Sunflower Oil ;)

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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2020, 02:14:20 AM »
These Greeks are everywhere...........

We did DNA tests recently and wifey came out about 90% Russian, a bit of general European and Balkan and 2.5% Greek.

I knew the cupboards were full of Olive Oil for a reason....

Because food tastes better baked in Olive Oil than in Sunflower Oil ;)
Olive oil is no good for frying.
For that I use groundnut oil.
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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2020, 02:43:35 AM »
I heard that 3/4 of men on this earth are Mongolian.

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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2020, 04:12:49 AM »
I heard that 3/4 of men on this earth are Mongolian.

A girl (aged 11) once calculated that going back 30 generations, we are all descendants of King George I of (then) England. This because 1 person needs so many (great)(grand)parents, in the year 1600 (assuming 1 generation is about 20 years) King George 1st was then king of england and he was (great,great,etc) grandfather to all humans alive now.
(for the record, 2 to the power of 30 = 500 million, and by the time of george 1st rule, there were 450 million humans on this planet).

The girl also obviously never heard of inbreeding and crossing bloodlines later down the path  :laugh:


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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2020, 05:35:55 AM »
These Greeks are everywhere...........

We did DNA tests recently and wifey came out about 90% Russian, a bit of general European and Balkan and 2.5% Greek.

I knew the cupboards were full of Olive Oil for a reason....

Because food tastes better baked in Olive Oil than in Sunflower Oil ;)
Olive oil is no good for frying.
For that I use groundnut oil.

Normal Humans prefer olive oil..... but Crocks prefer Groundnut Oil to polish their teeth...

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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2020, 12:48:53 PM »
I heard that 3/4 of men on this earth are Mongolian.

I got 0.01% East Asian.
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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2020, 03:28:43 PM »
How much it costs to have a DNA?

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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2020, 03:46:40 PM »
I heard that 3/4 of men on this earth are Mongolian.

Perhaps this is what you’re thinking of?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thevintagenews.com/2018/06/09/genghis-khan/amp/
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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2020, 03:55:20 PM »
How much it costs to have a DNA?

About £90 in the UK

https://www.livescience.com/63997-dna-ancestry-test-results-explained.html

The results 'vary' by about 3 to 13 percent .. 

I Took 9 Different Commercial DNA Tests and Got 6 Different Results  'Livescience'

You can fined for taking one in France ! 3000Euro ?!

https://internethealthreport.org/2019/23-reasons-not-to-reveal-your-dna/

Apparently, more folk of European heritage take them - so they are more accurate ?

IF my brother is related to me  (same Ma and Pa )  ... we are a mix of Scots / Irish ( expected ) French ( also expected, Huguenots ) and a sprinkling of Welsh ... ( Grandma on Dad's side )


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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2020, 05:06:50 PM »
How much it costs to have a DNA?

Ours was more than Moby said. We used 23andme.com

There's a ton of info available after you have done it. Not just the basics you see below.

The more people do it, the more the data changes so it hones. I've just logged in again for a look, I've lost my East Asian and become more European, wifey has gained East Asian and lost her Greek.

Here's my snapshot:



Heres wifey's:



There's hours of reading after you have had it done, likelihood of certain diseases, etc. And you can export your raw data and use it on other sites for more info. It's a big and interesting subject.

It'd be interesting to test all those Americans who think they're Irish.  :evilgrin0002:
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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2020, 05:23:46 PM »
I found it quite accurate, when you drill down into the regions, it looks familiar.



Wifeys is similarly accurate.



You expect to see the capitals at the top as people migrate there.
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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2020, 09:05:47 PM »
Here's mine

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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2020, 11:40:35 PM »
Manny I would say the one for your wife is quite on the rare side.  Several dna studies and history show us that Russians have a certain amount of East Asian dna due to the invasion of Genghis Khan.  We learned in history class back in ninth grade that Genghis Khan made it all the way to the gates of Vienna.  The National Geographic has several reference populations that they have tested in large amounts and most Eastern Europeans have East Asian dna I think around 5 to 10%.  I read somewhere that Belarus received its name as white Russia because it was the only area that was not fully conquered by the Mongolians.  As we know byeli in Russian means white.  But during Soviet times many people moved around also.  And of course the Russians that are mixed with other ethnicities within Russia wil have a higher East Asian component.  One mf my Russian friends is 1/4 Buryat from the Lake Baikal region.  Even though she is completely Russian and lives in Moscow, she will have an East Asian dna higher than the national average. 

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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2020, 03:29:58 PM »
Wiz, the price depends upon which team of charlatans you choose to pay and the purpose to which the testing is claimed to be put.

A less than $50 should suffice to give you a report that purports to tell you about your ancestry.

Here's a report into the stuff that these services turn up. Worth noting is that several of the services checked did not even note that the gender of the DNA did not match the gender of the client. All services gave different results - not consistent and some were quite implausible. .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/63997-dna-ancestry-test-results-explained.html
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2020, 03:43:33 PM »
Thank you Mark and Andrew....... I only asked the price out of curiosity.

Having already searched for both Family trees..... went back to 1850.... so that is good enough for me.  I know both branches of the Tree are of Greek blood.

As I married  an English woman..... I am not sure about my sons..... looking my grandchildren.... most have Greek characteristics and names ...... so that is enough for me.!

Thanks God I am not German or American........ :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2020, 03:44:21 PM »
How much it costs to have a DNA?

Ours was more than Moby said. We used 23andme.com

There's a ton of info available after you have done it. Not just the basics you see below.

The more people do it, the more the data changes so it hones. I've just logged in again for a look, I've lost my East Asian and become more European, wifey has gained East Asian and lost her Greek.

Here's my snapshot:

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Heres wifey's:

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There's hours of reading after you have had it done, likelihood of certain diseases, etc. And you can export your raw data and use it on other sites for more info. It's a big and interesting subject.

It'd be interesting to test all those Americans who think they're Irish :evilgrin0002:

Gee bud, I’m just slightly more Irish than the Africans and Muslims you lot imported from the 3rd World.

You think a passport defines ancestry, we think legitimate ancestors define ancestry.

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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2020, 04:14:37 PM »
Manny I would say the one for your wife is quite on the rare side.  Several dna studies and history show us that Russians have a certain amount of East Asian dna due to the invasion of Genghis Khan.  We learned in history class back in ninth grade that Genghis Khan made it all the way to the gates of Vienna.  The National Geographic has several reference populations that they have tested in large amounts and most Eastern Europeans have East Asian dna I think around 5 to 10%. 

How it came about: I one day mused that as she tans ridiculously fast (in about an hour), is from central Russia (near Kazakhstan and the Asian continent) that she might have a lot of SE Asian/Stans in her genes.

She disagreed, said she was pure Slavic and European Russian.

So we did a test. She was right.

I find it a really interesting subject.

So yours is pretty much Spanish then, Omega. Does that site drill into any more detail?

I wonder when American folks are tested, I imagine it gives a whole tapestry of results.

With the US being a relatively new country, and most of the original population being immigrants, there%u2019s not going to be any DNA tests saying %u201CAmerican%u201D? It%u2019s going to be mostly European I guess?

Do any other of our American members have something similar to share? Cornfed, instead of trolling, do you have one?
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Re: DNA Testing
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2020, 01:58:25 AM »
The rest is also Spanish because there were Jews, North Africans and people from other parts of Europe in Spain.  There are also gypsies in Spain although I dont have any of those in my family tree as far back as Ive gone.  The Moors were in Spain for almost 800 years.  And also the original people of the Canary Islands were originally from Morocco.  At the time of the Spanish arrival in the Canary Islands (circa 1475) they noticed the local inhabitants did not have any navigational skills or knowledge.  There is a theory that the original inhabitants were part of a tribe in North Africa that circa 100 AD rebelled against the Romans and were expelled.  Except for several rare visits, they lived in isolation for almost 14 centuries.  DNA test done in ancient burial sites show their closest genetic match are the Berbers of North Africa.  Then they mixed with the Spanish which also had some Moorish influence.