Out of state visitors not always welcome

[Texan77]

Texas making it harder for out of state visitors flying into the state.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/dps-troopers-now-staffing-houston-airports-enforcing-governor-s-travel-order/ar-BB11QYhy?ocid=hplocalnews

[AvHdB]

Off the coast of Massachusetts are a number of islands, including Nantucket and Martha’s Vineyard. A decent property costs millions, often tens of millions on either.

The Vineyard as it is referred to is a bastion of the liberal, think B. Obama, the Clinton’s and other liberal ‘leaders’ during the summer. The officials ordered all non residents off island. So much for liberal acceptance and charity.

A little further off the mainland is Nantucket famous for a book written about a whale called Moby Dick. It is conservative, very Republican and lily white. All off islanders were given 24 hours to depart a couple weeks ago. So much for compassion and assistance from a conservative standpoint.

[Steveboy]

Off the coast of Massachusetts are a number of islands, including Nantucket and Martha’s Vineyard. A decent property costs millions, often tens of millions on either.

The Vineyard as it is referred to is a bastion of the liberal, think B. Obama, the Clinton’s and other liberal ‘leaders’ during the summer. The officials ordered all non residents off island. So much for liberal acceptance and charity.

A little further off the mainland is Nantucket famous for a book written about a whale called Moby Dick. It is conservative, very Republican and lily white. All off islanders were given 24 hours to depart a couple weeks ago. So much for compassion and assistance from a conservative standpoint.

The Vineyard as it is referred to is a bastion of the liberal, think B. Obama, the Clinton’s and other liberal ‘leaders’ during the summer. . I would rather call it an Island of hypercritical ******* who speak their bullshit about wealth equality amongst other garbage.. Please send as much virus over to them all as soon as possible...

[AvHdB]

The Vineyard as it is referred to is a bastion of the liberal, think B. Obama, the Clinton’s and other liberal ‘leaders’ during the summer. . I would rather call it an Island of hypercritical ******* who speak their bullshit about wealth equality amongst other garbage.. Please send as much virus over to them all as soon as possible...

A few days back there was musing from D. Trump of a complete lock down of NY, CT & NJ. Perhaps he was thinking let’s leep all those Democratic’s together.    

[msmoby]

..another example of his 'musings' being brainfarts

[Steveboy]

The Vineyard as it is referred to is a bastion of the liberal, think B. Obama, the Clinton’s and other liberal ‘leaders’ during the summer. . I would rather call it an Island of hypercritical ******* who speak their bullshit about wealth equality amongst other garbage.. Please send as much virus over to them all as soon as possible...

A few days back there was musing from D. Trump of a complete lock down of NY, CT & NJ. Perhaps he was thinking let’s leep all those Democratic’s together.    

Let's hope if any catch it the ventilators do not work especially the Clintons..

[Texan77]

Off the coast of Massachusetts are a number of islands, including Nantucket and Martha’s Vineyard. A decent property costs millions, often tens of millions on either.

The Vineyard as it is referred to is a bastion of the liberal, think B. Obama, the Clinton’s and other liberal ‘leaders’ during the summer. The officials ordered all non residents off island. So much for liberal acceptance and charity.

A little further off the mainland is Nantucket famous for a book written about a whale called Moby Dick. It is conservative, very Republican and lily white. All off islanders were given 24 hours to depart a couple weeks ago. So much for compassion and assistance from a conservative standpoint.

I get it. The difference between democrats and republicans is two weeks. I never had it explained that well to me before. 

I sort of saw it this way. Republicans want to take away benefits from people who can not work and democrats want to take away jobs from those who can.

[andrewfi]

This is how societies break down. The United States is already heavily fractured. Differences are becoming more visible.

Tribalism will increase and communities will become smaller and more isolated.

We're seeing some of this in the EU. In the EU though it seems to be largely at a national level - that's not great but seems much less of a problem than we are starting to see over there.

Those divisions will not go away after the virus has finished casting its shadow across the world.

[BillyB]

This is how societies break down. The United States is already heavily fractured. Differences are becoming more visible.

After America beats the virus, we'll send Europe equipment and loan money.....like we always did in the past.

[AvHdB]

This is how societies break down. The United States is already heavily fractured. Differences are becoming more visible.

After America beats the virus, we'll send Europe equipment and loan money.....like we always did in the past.

The United States is sending an initial shipment of 12 million US $ to Ukraine as aid to fight the virus. The Russian backed terrorists in the East of Ukraine refuse a ceasefire and instead increase the provocations towards the Ukraine military.

Other weaker nations, including Venezuela, are receiving aid to fight the Wuhan Virus.

[Manny]

After America beats the virus, we'll send Europe equipment and loan money.....like we always did in the past.

Beats it by doing what exactly? Doing nothing is the modus operandi up to now.

[Steveboy]

This is how societies break down. The United States is already heavily fractured. Differences are becoming more visible.

After America beats the virus, we'll send Europe equipment and loan money.....like we always did in the past.

That is because the UK had had weak unless leaders!! If I was the PM I would send it straight back to you.. with a invoice for wasting my time!!! 

I wouldn't come cap in hand to ANYONE!!

[Manny]

The United States is sending an initial shipment of 12 million US $ to Ukraine as aid to fight the virus and keep their puppets loyal and on the payroll. The Russian backed terrorists separatists in the East of Ukraine refuse a ceasefire and instead increase the provocations towards the Ukraine military continue to defend themselves against US backed aggression.

Other weaker nations, including Venezuela, are receiving aid to fight the Wuhan Covid-19 Virus.

Fixed that for you.

[Steveboy]

The United States is sending an initial shipment of 12 million US $ to Ukraine as aid to fight the virus and keep their puppets loyal and on the payroll. The Russian backed terrorists separatists in the East of Ukraine refuse a ceasefire and instead increase the provocations towards the Ukraine military continue to defend themselves against US backed aggression.

Other weaker nations, including Venezuela, are receiving aid to fight the Wuhan Covid-19 Virus.

Fixed that for you.

[2tallbill]

It is conservative, very Republican and lily white. All off islanders were given 24 hours to depart a couple weeks ago. So much for compassion and assistance from a conservative standpoint.

In Nantucket County, MA 63.7% of the people voted Democrat
in the last presidential election, 29.1% voted Republican, and the
remaining 7.2% voted Independent.
https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/county/massachusetts/nantucket

[andrewfi]

Billy, more of the fantasies. Just look at what's going on in your adopted home right now. It isn't pretty but is a continuation of what's been going on for a decade or two now.

What's interesting now is the degree to which divisions are becoming visible along wealth and geographical lines. Tribalism is moving away from being a discrete cultural/social manifestation toward a more concrete, physical affair. That's a big step for one nation under God.

[AvHdB]

It is conservative, very Republican and lily white. All off islanders were given 24 hours to depart a couple weeks ago. So much for compassion and assistance from a conservative standpoint.

In Nantucket County, MA 63.7% of the people voted Democrat
in the last presidential election, 29.1% voted Republican, and the
remaining 7.2% voted Independent.
https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/county/massachusetts/nantucket

In a way surprising. I suspect there are two distinct populations; the summer people who own the multi million dollar homes and those who reside there year long. The presidential vote occurs when it is only islanders voting. Birds of a feather tend to flock together.

[Contrarian]

Off the coast of Massachusetts are a number of islands, including Nantucket and Martha’s Vineyard. A decent property costs millions, often tens of millions on either.

The Vineyard as it is referred to is a bastion of the liberal, think B. Obama, the Clinton’s and other liberal ‘leaders’ during the summer. The officials ordered all non residents off island. So much for liberal acceptance and charity.

A little further off the mainland is Nantucket famous for a book written about a whale called Moby Dick. It is conservative, very Republican and lily white. All off islanders were given 24 hours to depart a couple weeks ago. So much for compassion and assistance from a conservative standpoint.

The Vineyard as it is referred to is a bastion of the liberal, think B. Obama, the Clinton’s and other liberal ‘leaders’ during the summer. . I would rather call it an Island of hypercritical ******* who speak their bullshit about wealth equality amongst other garbage.. Please send as much virus over to them all as soon as possible...

Would you lovely lilly-white Commie hypocrites like some pangolin stew, fresh from Wuhans best bioweapons lab? How bout some extra strong doses of 5G to weaken your immune systems in advance?

[Contrarian]

The United States is sending an initial shipment of 12 million US $ to Ukraine as aid to fight the virus and keep their puppets loyal and on the payroll. The Russian backed terrorists separatists in the East of Ukraine refuse a ceasefire and instead increase the provocations towards the Ukraine military continue to defend themselves against US backed aggression.

Other weaker nations, including Venezuela, are receiving aid to fight the Wuhan Covid-19 Virus.

Fixed that for you.

Keep smoking from Putin’s crack pipe bud. Eventually big brother in the U.K. will give you a one-way ticket to Russia. 

[BillyB]

After America beats the virus, we'll send Europe equipment and loan money.....like we always did in the past.

Beats it by doing what exactly? Doing nothing is the modus operandi up to now.

The virus may not be beat completely but we will beat it enough to where our economy is stronger than others. We got smart people here that will figure it out better than the leaders of nations elsewhere.

Just look at what's going on in your adopted home right now. It isn't pretty but is a continuation of what's been going on for a decade or two now.

You been predicting the decline and end of America for over a decade and we've been getting stronger since then. Your brain doesn't function properly. Look at my signature line. What is going on in Europe is worse than America. We do not need the army to lockdown America. We are not at where Europe is at this moment. After the first wave of the virus, come back and see who has the higher curve of deaths.

[Steveboy]

Off the coast of Massachusetts are a number of islands, including Nantucket and Martha’s Vineyard. A decent property costs millions, often tens of millions on either.

The Vineyard as it is referred to is a bastion of the liberal, think B. Obama, the Clinton’s and other liberal ‘leaders’ during the summer. The officials ordered all non residents off island. So much for liberal acceptance and charity.

A little further off the mainland is Nantucket famous for a book written about a whale called Moby Dick. It is conservative, very Republican and lily white. All off islanders were given 24 hours to depart a couple weeks ago. So much for compassion and assistance from a conservative standpoint.

The Vineyard as it is referred to is a bastion of the liberal, think B. Obama, the Clinton’s and other liberal ‘leaders’ during the summer. . I would rather call it an Island of hypercritical ******* who speak their bullshit about wealth equality amongst other garbage.. Please send as much virus over to them all as soon as possible...

Would you lovely lilly-white Commie hypocrites like some pangolin stew, fresh from Wuhans best bioweapons lab? How bout some extra strong doses of 5G to weaken your immune systems in advance?

Yes please do you do a delivery service? 

[Manny]

After America beats the virus, we'll send Europe equipment and loan money.....like we always did in the past.

Beats it by doing what exactly? Doing nothing is the modus operandi up to now.

The virus may not be beat completely but we will beat it enough to where our economy is stronger than others. We got smart people here that will figure it out better than the leaders of nations elsewhere.

Again, beat it by doing what exactly?

[andrewfi]

Billy, you believe what you write. That's nice. But belief is always trumped by reality.

As I have said many times for the people who find it hard to think, decline is a process, not an event. There may be a tipping point; in fact, there usually is but we never know what the tipping point was until we see it as history.

If you see what is happening in the USA right now as a sign of strength then please feel free to accept my sympathy for your delusion. I trust that you are able to continue to manage your therapy session by remote conferencing.

[Texan77]

Beating this virus is not easily. The Chinese have not beat it. They have dozen of new cases everyday they choose to not call  them new case because the patient did not have bad enough systems or some excuse. It is going to be a long term drag on their economy to keep the virus at bay. One mistake it comes back.  Then the people went back to the factories only to find there are no orders, no one is placing any new orders and no one in their domestic market want to buy anything. A pile of order cancelations that keep gowning. There is an exception, if you make something needed to fight the virus you can not work enough.

There has been a pollical battle in the USA between the nationalist and the globalist. I think this virus is a tilting point but not the one Andrew is talking about. I think globalism is dying. I think on a world wide basics no body is going to want all there stuff made in one country even if it is cheaper. I think the lack of medical supplies has been the huge wake up call. There is a new practice that has been happening for the last few years that is expected to accelerate called on-shoring. This is where more stuff is made in the country where it is sold. Factory are more automated and the cost of labor is becoming less of a factor. The risk of having to do without is going to be the big driver. How many thousands of people died over fake Chinese test kits? I really doubt if anyone is going to forget soon.

They will likely have test completed to use drugs to be able to keep more people alive by the end of summer maybe sooner because using existing medications that are being repurposed requires much less testing. The virus is not going away anytime soon. By next winter we should have a vaccine. It will not be until then that we will finally beat the virus. Between now and then lock down or not it will be a huge drag on the world economies.

This is causing a change in the USA that is already being felt causing the political parties to come together more and their platforms to not differencing quite so much. There is nothing like a war to bring the two sides together. This is a war. If we go to a nationalist party and a less nationalist party the division may not seem so steep. Actually this was happen to some extent before the virus when the democratic party completely rejected Sanders for Biden.

[BillyB]

Billy, you believe what you write. That's nice. But belief is always trumped by reality.

As I have said many times for the people who find it hard to think, decline is a process, not an event. There may be a tipping point; in fact, there usually is but we never know what the tipping point was until we see it as history.

If you see what is happening in the USA right now as a sign of strength then please feel free to accept my sympathy for your delusion. I trust that you are able to continue to manage your therapy session by remote conferencing.

Andrew, it must suck to be you. You have zero idea why America has been so successful for so long. The average American is better than you and that is why America is successful and America will come out of this crisis better than other nations.