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« on: February 24, 2020, 07:12:43 PM »
“Over the years, California has developed a reputation for pushing vaccines on their youth. Assembly Bill 499 was passed in 2011 and lowered the age of consent for STD prevention vaccines to just 12 years old. Included in the assortment of shots being administered was the infamous Gardasil, which just a few years later was at the center of a lawsuit that yielded the victims a $6 million settlement from the U.S. government, which paid out funds from the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program”.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02/rise-mandatory-vaccinations-means-end-medical-freedom
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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2020, 07:17:29 PM »
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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2020, 08:57:10 PM »

My wife is in her final years of nursing. She will be doing studying and working in hospitals. Nobody in a nursing program could work in a hospital without certain required vaccinations. Think of the lawsuits of a medical worker or student gets something or transfers something to patients.
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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2020, 11:35:43 PM »

My wife is in her final years of nursing. She will be doing studying and working in hospitals. Nobody in a nursing program could work in a hospital without certain required vaccinations. Think of the lawsuits of a medical worker or student gets something or transfers something to patients.

This is probably as it should be.

The first link I posted above talks about the possibility that some or most vaccines do work, but because of the militant attitudes of pro-vaxers it causes a militant response by some or many of the anti-vax people.

What disturbs me and many others is that originally only 4 or 5 vaccines were required, but now a multitude is required, and the CDC expects very young children to have these. Some very young children have bad reactions and die.

I firmly believe in caution and going back to fewer recommended vaccines. It doesn’t seem as if there’s a happy medium. It’s one extreme or the other.


https://thevaccinereaction.org/2019/02/a-baby-died-after-vaccination/


If we care about protecting the “greater good” then why is it so politically incorrect to care about the individual casualties of what is presumed to be a “good” medical intervention? If we are so smart and have so much science behind our decisions, why would we not look at those who die after vaccination to find commonalities for the purpose of finding ways to prevent a vaccine-related death or injury?
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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2020, 12:00:26 AM »
SIDS is the excuse “the system” tries to use.

https://vactruth.com/2015/02/03/sids-death-vaccines/
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2020, 12:57:31 AM »
Contrary to an uneducated statement made by another poster, vaccinations are NOT the cure all which they are presented as.


This is because your immune system “remembers” how it previously responded to a pathogen, and this memory can be quite detrimental if its response is incorrect toward different strains (poor training is worse than no training). Thus, people who receive the seasonal flu shot are at higher risk for contracting more virulent, pandemic strains of the influenza that could potentially be fatal. [2,3]


So here we see a vaccination can cause more harm then help!

Moving on, we see the importance of the body being exposed naturally and building up immunity naturally.


Flu Shot Suppresses Your Immune System
Conversely, natural immunity (contracting the influenza naturally and subsequently convalescing) enables your immune system to have “heterosubtypic immunity,” — that is, the ability to produce antibodies to various flu strains. Moreover, immunity is a multifaceted process that includes antibodies as one component of the overall response; natural exposure to pathogens engages all layers of the immune system (vaccines do not)
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https://vactruth.com/2018/03/04/unvaccinated-flu-deaths-are-deceptive/



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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2021, 06:05:02 PM »
I received my third does of Pfizer today. It it has been 5 hours and I have not died or anything like that.

Today United Airline fired 600 employees because they would not get vaccinated.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/united-airlines-says-over-99percent-of-non-exempt-employees-in-its-67000-strong-us-workforce-are-vaccinated-against-covid-19/ar-AAOVDtB?ocid=msedgdhp

It seems governments and large companies around the world believe in the vaccine.




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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2021, 11:45:43 AM »
Gene altering “vaccinations”.


https://www.zerohedge.com/health/new-vaccines-are-our-future-will-literally-change-your-dna

I wish that were possible, that would mean a cure for (amongst other things) Coeliakie (gluten allergy).

Every disease we humans get leaves an imprint in our genome. This imprint does not effect us as over 98 percent of the genome does not do anything that changes the way our current body runs. They have been able to research diseases humans have had over many thousands of years because of this effect. Vaccines causes you body to think it had a disease will have a similar effect. Catching the disease or vaccine it does about the same to your genome. We have not found away to used this effect to cure diseases yet by changing a part of the genome the body is using. Our genome does not just determine who we are but is also a biological history record. It is just the anti vaccine people want to make a big deal out of it.

Wiz, I reached three days after the third does of the vaccine. I still have not grown an extra limb. No I did not ask Pfizer for any type of pills. Why would ask such a dumb question?   ???

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2021, 02:20:45 PM »


Wiz, I reached three days after the third does of the vaccine. I still have not grown an extra limb. No I did not ask Pfizer for any type of pills. Why would ask such a dumb question?   ???

He was mocking you, asking if you requested some Viagra in addition to the vaccine.  I put him in his place and told him to stuff his face with feta!!  It's a greek thang. :party0031: :party0031:

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2021, 02:38:13 PM »

Wiz, I reached three days after the third does of the vaccine. I still have not grown an extra limb. No I did not ask Pfizer for any type of pills. Why would ask such a dumb question?   ???

Was a smal joke my friend Texan  because pfizer was the one who produced Viagra First.

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2021, 04:11:49 PM »
Wiz's English is still not that good so his clumsy attempts at humor come across rather pedantically especially when he links and copy/pastes massive useless articles.

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2021, 05:23:18 PM »
"Jumping Jack" .... ........... finally without  the tits ?

Wonder how many more, I am guessing a couple  ....... Ha Ha Ha  :ROFL:

As about my English....  :biggrin:

I am not competing for "The Bookers Literature Award"

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2021, 05:34:12 PM »
"Jumping Jack" .... ........... finally without  the tits ?

Wonder how many more, I am guessing a couple  ....... Ha Ha Ha  :ROFL:

As FOR my English....  :biggrin:



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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2021, 05:37:43 PM »

ELEVATES AND DETONATES!!  :king:  Let's rumble young fella, come atcha brah! ;D

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2021, 01:28:31 AM »
"Jumping Jack" .... ........... finally without  the tits ?

Wonder how many more, I am guessing a couple  ....... Ha Ha Ha  :ROFL:

As FOR my English....  :biggrin:



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there, fixed the grammar for ya. is jumping jack an insult?! :party0031:   I can go full postal on you but brotha you better watch your head when I posterize ya!  DIG?! :ROFL:

Not at all, just an indication that your window is open and I can see your face.

As you know, I have shut down my playground because I can't be bothered dealing with idiots..... I can afford to keep it alive just for notes.... where you put your services under the American flag, which is not working very well lately and Covid -19 was the last straw!

Looks you are growing Bitter at your old age...... :nod: :laugh:

Kind regards to the tractor driver...... :biggrin: from a "British Pensioner!"

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2021, 03:22:39 AM »
I take it to mean on one wants to talk about vaccines any more.

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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2021, 09:16:09 AM »
I take it to mean on one wants to talk about vaccines any more.
NO YOU ARE WRONG....plenty to red and talk about the Vaccines:

For starters read the following article.

British Government Shocking Report on Side Effects
of Corona Vaccines: Strokes, Blindness, Miscarriages

In total, more than 30,000 vaccinees reported more than 100,000 adverse reactions to the vaccine by the end of January. Most notable are 13 people who went blind after the vaccination, eight miscarriages and a total of 236 fatal cases, Epoch Times reports.

The list of side effects and adverse reactions to Corona vaccinations is getting longer. A report by the UK’s Medicines Regulatory Agency (MHRA, a body that licenses and oversees medicines in the UK, similar to the Paul Ehrlich Institute in Germany) now adds blindness and miscarriages to already known reactions to vaccines, such as pain, facial paralysis and blood disorders. The report was updated on February 11 to include reports of suspected adverse reactions from the start of the vaccination campaign on December 9 through the end of January.

Officials say that “more than 110,000 people in the UK have died within 28 days of a positive coronal test.” By comparison, about four million people tested positive, while overseas colonies (including Gibraltar, the Cayman Islands and Bermuda) contributed a few thousand cases. This results in a mortality rate of about 2.5 percent, which is roughly equivalent to the mortality rate of a regular flu.

Plenty to read and educate yourself. follow the link!

https://www.globalresearch.ca/british-government-publishes-shocking-report-side-effects-corona-vaccines-strokes-blindness-miscarriages/5742852

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2021, 10:20:09 AM »
In your article it says the rate of death from corvid is 2.5 per cent and is the same as from the flu. Gee We do not get nearly 2.5 per cent of deaths from the flu. Surely at least this much of that article is total fake. Then you wonder how much of the rest of it is fake?

Quote from article below.

This results in a mortality rate of about 2.5 percent, which is roughly equivalent to the mortality rate of a regular flu.

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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2021, 12:19:24 PM »
Wiz has gone nutso..talking about jumping jacks and peeping through windows the perv.

I'm about 4 decades younger than you "old man" HAHAHAAHA!@!  :party0011:  I can still party unlike you who looks likes he's a bit portly as he approaches 80.   Good luck getting to 100.  :ROFL: :ROFL:

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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2021, 05:03:00 PM »
In your article it says the rate of death from corvid is 2.5 per cent and is the same as from the flu. Gee We do not get nearly 2.5 per cent of deaths from the flu. Surely at least this much of that article is total fake. Then you wonder how much of the rest of it is fake?

Quote from article below.

This results in a mortality rate of about 2.5 percent, which is roughly equivalent to the mortality rate of a regular flu.

I was watching the flu mortality in Greece in previous years before Covid 19 and it appears to be the same every year and very similar to the Covid 19 mortality records for each of the past 2 years...... (around 15.000 people per year).

Funny think is that they don't show any more deaths from flu as they appear to register only deaths from Covid 19!


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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2021, 07:34:21 PM »
This is a rather distressing statistic 38% of the citizens in Connecticut after being fully vaccinated still contract Covid. Presently Brett Kavanaugh a supreme court justice who was vaccinated in the beginning of the year has also contracted Covid.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2021, 11:02:30 PM »
This is a rather distressing statistic 38% of the citizens in Connecticut after being fully vaccinated still contract Covid. Presently Brett Kavanaugh a supreme court justice who was vaccinated in the beginning of the year has also contracted Covid.

AvhdB you aren't understanding what vaccines do.  It doesn't make you less susceptible to GETTING the covid, but it makes you more able to fight the virus and not get very sick or die.

Of all the patients in the hospital in Intensive care for covid in my district more than 90% are NOT vaccinated.  This shows that it works.

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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2021, 11:51:10 PM »
In the USA we has passed the number of deaths caused by the Spanish flu and have reached 700,000 deaths. The life expectancy dropped by two years during the Covid-19. I do not know what the Greeks are doing. The disease is 6 time more transmissible and ten times higher death rate in the USA than the flu. If medical cares system becomes over loaded and break down the death rate from covid-19 could approach 5 per cent.

At first the original Covid-19 the vaccine could cause the immune system to kill the virus before it was transmittable 95 per cent of the time. Against the delta variant it is not as effective but still greatly aids in keeping out of the hospitals and reduces death rates. Without the vaccine nearly 100 per cent of the people who caught Delta could transmit the disease where the vaccine about 38 per cent can transmit the Delta variant. 

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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2021, 12:13:01 AM »
This is a rather distressing statistic 38% of the citizens in Connecticut after being fully vaccinated still contract Covid. Presently Brett Kavanaugh a supreme court justice who was vaccinated in the beginning of the year has also contracted Covid.

Have you ever or yearly had the Flu Vaccine, as I have for the past 6 years?

Well during these years I have not stopped going around normally, visiting friends, places in the UK and as I have already reported abroad. We had regular visitors with children in our house and NEITHER myself or my wife were ever infected by any flu!

It never crossed my mind to take any other special precautions......!


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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2021, 12:44:33 AM »
In the USA we has passed the number of deaths caused by the Spanish flu and have reached 700,000 deaths. The life expectancy dropped by two years during the Covid-19. I do not know what the Greeks are doing. The disease is 6 time more transmissible and ten times higher death rate in the USA than the flu. If medical cares system becomes over loaded and break down the death rate from covid-19 could approach 5 per cent.

At first the original Covid-19 the vaccine could cause the immune system to kill the virus before it was transmittable 95 per cent of the time. Against the delta variant it is not as effective but still greatly aids in keeping out of the hospitals and reduces death rates. Without the vaccine nearly 100 per cent of the people who caught Delta could transmit the disease where the vaccine about 38 per cent can transmit the Delta variant.

Demographics of the United States and Greece.

The current population of the United States of America is 333,421,330 as of Friday, 1 October  2021, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.

The current Population of Greece is 10,360,783 as of Wednesday, 22 September  2021.

USA: Annual GDP   2020   189,259 M.$ per capita

Greece: Annual GDP per capita   2020   15,490€

Sorry but we cannot make any good comparisons!
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