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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2020, 04:06:35 AM »
*I* know the future and knew the past .. The Pound did EXACTLY as I predicated .. losing 15-20 percent of it's value ..

This is epic, even for Mystic Moby!!  :ROFL:

We all know the past because its actually happened, which makes Moby's claims to be special rather silly. In terms of knowing the future, well the question I have to ask is;

Why are you such a loser, considering this special talent you harbour?  :-\

When BoJo opens his gob for the domestic Gallery who still haven't wised up ... he simply roves my point ..  He creates instability and ties to blame the EU

We all know that instability was created by the remain faction, who refused to accept the democratic vote. We should be where we are today, 3 and a half years ago. Only idiots believe otherwise.

The owners of the ports that operate Freight Ferries have already asked "who is paying", for the infrastructure for he deal he struck with the EU - whereby goods from N.Ireland HAVE to be checked to ensure they are not fro the EU  ..

And we're back to project fear and a sad little mentality whereby any project that isn't led by the EU, must be doomed to failure.

Moby, you're a sad little bloke but you're not alone. I was reading a thread on Facebook this morning where an idiot, similar in stature to yourself, with the customary EU flag posted in his profile photo, claimed that he longed for the Uk to fail so that he could prove 'leavers' to be wrong.

Yes you have that same little inward mentality.


 

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2020, 08:00:39 AM »
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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2020, 08:13:39 AM »
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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2020, 11:58:58 AM »
booming tax receipts.

We've just paid our highest ever tax, NI and VAT bills (for friends over the pond - all taxes).

Nice to know it won't be going to fund a road in Bulgaria courtesy of the EU.
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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2020, 12:58:23 PM »
booming tax receipts.

We've just paid our highest ever tax, NI and VAT bills (for friends over the pond - all taxes).

Nice to know it won't be going to fund a road in Bulgaria courtesy of the EU.

The honest discussion has only really just begun too - how will the EU make up for the huge short fall in revenue? Remainers don't like to discuss this because they try to sell a scenario where we receive stuff from the EU and claim its a net benefit.

In truth, the Uk was/is a net contributor and with them apparently not going to do business with us anymore, where does this leave them without the UK gravy train? Funding shortfalls, French & Germany economies on the brink and their collective EU industries which have been set up to provide for the UK no longer working.....now they won't deal with us?! :-X

Like you said, Bulgaria, Latvia, Portugal and soon to be Albania won't be swelling the coffers because these guys are members who are on the take. When the handouts stop, the beggars move on.

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2020, 01:27:02 PM »
  I seem to recall someone saying this, can't remember who...

  REALLY 'smart' to walk away from THE biggest trading bloc


...nothing's changed ... 

BoJo open's his gob and the GBP falls ..

ALL that has 'improved was relief re uncertainty ... He re-introduced that

Swindon will lose Honda and Bridgend, Ford ... High salary jobs in the city are draining away to Dublin and mainland Europe ..

The worse has yet to come

 Oh really?

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47287386

Honda said the move was due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles, and it had nothing to do with Brexit.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-48533790

Ford blamed "changing customer demand and cost" for the closure plans and denied Brexit was a factor.


 It took me about 2 minutes to debunk your lies. I gave a link to back my assertion, and more links to show your words are  bullox. You got your info from where? Did you dream it up? And as for the GBP, you are trying to say a minor fluctuation is a disaster. Come talk to us when it loses 25% like our dollar did.  The only one you are fooling is yourself Moby.

 As for all theses high paying jobs mainland EU are getting, can you show us proof of that too? What country is getting them? Not France or Germany anyways according to my article!

It’s precisely because Britain will thrive after Brexit that we attracted record foreign direct investment last year, beating the US, with only China attracting more. Even British start-ups raised almost £8 billion in venture capital during 2018 – some 70 per cent more than their French and Germany counterparts.

 The EU is going into recession, Britain is getting record high foreign investment and you are trying to tell us the UK is in trouble. You really don't realize how stupid that sounds, do you?

 

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2020, 01:33:01 PM »


The honest discussion has only really just begun too - how will the EU make up for the huge short fall in revenue? Remainers don't like to discuss this because they try to sell a scenario where we receive stuff from the EU and claim its a net benefit.

In truth, the Uk was/is a net contributor and with them apparently not going to do business with us anymore, where does this leave them without the UK gravy train? Funding shortfalls, French & Germany economies on the brink and their collective EU industries which have been set up to provide for the UK no longer working.....now they won't deal with us?! :-X


 That's a really good point. Is Germany and France going to keep on propping up the rest of the EU in their own forever? I can't see it, especially when their economies are tanking.

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2020, 04:08:59 PM »
Really funny when folks seek 'excuses' for plants pulling out of the UK

Find us a Japanese firm pulling out of the EU ..

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2020, 07:52:11 PM »
Since you *know* the future, could you please tell me what the winning numbers for the Mega Millions will be this coming Tuesday?

Without doubt Moby knows the combination, he will only be *wrong* by six numbers.
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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2020, 11:07:45 PM »

 the rouble has been going to recover since Spring 2014 ...


More "natural" English? pretty sad considering it's the only language you know.  :chuckle:  And that's why they didn't hire you as an English teacher.

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2020, 11:10:18 PM »
Since you *know* the future, could you please tell me what the winning numbers for the Mega Millions will be this coming Tuesday?

Without doubt Moby knows the combination, he will only be *wrong* by six numbers.

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2020, 11:13:29 PM »
If Moby "knew" the Pound would fall why didn't he put all his money in US dollars and buy back after it dropped? an easy 20%...but of course this is the guy haggling over a few quid.

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2020, 01:53:43 AM »
Really funny when folks seek 'excuses' for plants pulling out of the UK

Find us a Japanese firm pulling out of the EU ..

'Thank you'

 Excuses huh? Words coming right from the companies themselves? The only funny part here is seeing you squirm when your lies are exposed and then try to come up with a feeble response...  like you just did.  :laugh:


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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2020, 02:39:52 AM »
Really funny when folks seek 'excuses' for plants pulling out of the UK

Find us a Japanese firm pulling out of the EU ..

'Thank you'

This is undoubtedly the main problem when adults have a conversation about Brexit. One side simply can't accept facts, reality or even comprehend a future outside of an undemocratic political cult, no matter how real or positive the alternative is.

Moby, your life must be so miserable that you feel the need to attribute any negative with Brexit, like an autistic child. Brexit is bad, is the only thing you can come up with, even when said negative its proven to be unrelated.

For a chap like you, Brexit won't change your life in any considerable way. You think it will but I'm afraid you're just not that important. What will change is the ability for the people of this country, to vote in or out, a government which can more directly create laws, policies and projects, and tailor for the needs of the UK.....not the group of 28.

Local governance looks after the people who vote them in. Superstates governing continents will never see Northern Ireland and it's people for example, as a priority over the rest of Europe. I know you won't understand this because you have Brexit disorder but I'm hoping some of this leaks into that potato head of yours.

For what its worth, the language coming out of Europe along with election and independent study results, suggests Brexit looks more likely to be a success. It very much feels like the tide has turned now that democratic decisions have been accepted and rouge politicians have been removed by the public. 

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2020, 02:42:14 AM »
Really funny when folks seek 'excuses' for plants pulling out of the UK

Find us a Japanese firm pulling out of the EU ..

'Thank you'

Here you go mucker.....from your very own Lib rag. Don't cry into your coffee. :coffeeread:

Nissan 'could pull out of EU and expand in UK after hard Brexit'

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/feb/03/nissan-eu-uk-hard-brexit

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2020, 05:38:27 AM »
Moby, your life must be so miserable that you feel the need to attribute any negative with Brexit, like an autistic child.

Since I am dyslexic and have to deal with autistic 'adults' and children. I only can wish this was the sole issue that ms and by extension RUA had to deal with.

ms from your moniker to the forum diarrhea that you post it is either wingeing about something that was a democratic choice (Brexit), dealing with some wrong that is in fact due to actions that you undertook to be smart dick. As a list, your wife detained because of your deceptions and inability to organize what the rest of us have done, a bank that wronged you and carrying a STD.

The common denominator is that it is someone else's fault, not your own shit. It is tiring and I commend those who either as Moderators or fellow posters point out your shortcomings and deceptions.

From a casual readers observation you are neither smart or a dick. Rather a feeble thing that feels both entitled and plays the victim card, badly I might note.
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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2020, 11:32:05 AM »
Really funny when folks seek 'excuses' for plants pulling out of the UK

Find us a Japanese firm pulling out of the EU ..

'Thank you'

Here you go mucker.....from your very own Lib rag. Don't cry into your coffee. :coffeeread:

Nissan 'could pull out of EU and expand in UK after hard Brexit'

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/feb/03/nissan-eu-uk-hard-brexit

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2020, 11:54:07 AM »
Really funny when folks seek 'excuses' for plants pulling out of the UK

Find us a Japanese firm pulling out of the EU ..

'Thank you'

Here you go mucker.....from your very own Lib rag. Don't cry into your coffee. :coffeeread:

Nissan 'could pull out of EU and expand in UK after hard Brexit'

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/feb/03/nissan-eu-uk-hard-brexit

 Lol! Too funny! The law of averages says he has to get something right ONE of these days, wonder when that will be?  :chuckle:

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2020, 02:21:51 PM »
Mystic Moby will now be furiously trawling the Guardian so he can throw some whataboutisms at Rosco so he can think himself right.  :ROFL:

He'll be along in a minute with some links to erm, "prove" that firms are fleeing Brexit Britain into the safe arms of the EU and the financial powerhouses of Slovakia, Greece and Latvia.  :chuckle:

The reality is that the loss of the UK in fiscal terms is like losing 18 of their average countries IIRC. The UK’s net EU contribution was larger than 26 EU nations combined (all but Germany). Moby and Co won't tell you that. They'll tell you we are not the world's 5th largest economy but a little powerless minnow to be punished by a drunken Belgian Junker. Our £54m a day bought a lot of champagne, foie gras, Mercedes and big fat gold plated pensions for Brussels bureaucrats to enjoy. Not to mention all the Greek and French pensions we were subsidising.

All that bollox is coming to an end. Zorba the Greek will have to get off his fat arse and so some work now instead of retiring at 50.  :nod:

Imagine the US lost New York, could Wyoming and a Dakota or two make up the shortfall? I'd suggest not. Would the union have some financial pain? I'd suggest so.
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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2020, 02:40:24 PM »
The budget hole is something that I have not seen mentioned in the popular press over here. It is a huge issue though. Most EU members depend upon transfers to the national budget from the EU to be able to survive in the form they exist today.

Of course, even the smallest, poorest states pay into the EU, it's just that they get back a lot more than they put in, so that does reduce the relative size of the UK induced deficit. That noted, there's a lot of programs that are going to be underfunded or not implemented. It's a good job that the current work on the Via Baltica has been finished. I cannot imagine that going ahead in its present form if it were to be presented today!
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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #45 on: February 12, 2020, 12:51:56 AM »
Corbyn ensured 'Brexit', but Brits can rejoice in another 'Mystic Meg' factoid..


“The Bank of England announced that voting to leave the European Union has cost Britain more than £440 million a week in lost growth since the referendum, that’s £727 per second."

Only those in lemmings mode and who thought jumping of a cliff will be claiming...'But, but'....we WILL be better off ....you wait and see.....'


You'll should like a gambler in need of therapy...


Trouble is....it was my money you borrowed in my name...((

Still, BoJo has come over all 'Keynesian' so we can borrow more money that our economy cannot afford.

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2020, 02:37:24 AM »
Corbyn ensured 'Brexit', but Brits can rejoice in another 'Mystic Meg' factoid..


“The Bank of England announced that voting to leave the European Union has cost Britain more than £440 million a week in lost growth since the referendum, that’s £727 per second."

Only those in lemmings mode and who thought jumping of a cliff will be claiming...'But, but'....we WILL be better off ....you wait and see.....'


You'll should like a gambler in need of therapy...


Trouble is....it was my money you borrowed in my name...((

Still, BoJo has come over all 'Keynesian' so we can borrow more money that our economy cannot afford.

Eh Brexit and the EU failings ensured Brexit.

Moby........you either refuse to listen or you can’t understand.

The leave vote cost us more money than it should have, because people who don’t believe in democracy, including many corrupt politicians who have since been handed their ‘jotters’, stalled the process and lay legal and political traps at every turn.

This would have been over long ago, any losses kept to a minimum and growth back on track much sooner but here we are still teaching you about reality. Like I said, you either refuse to listen or you aren’t intelligent enough to understand.

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #47 on: February 12, 2020, 05:05:58 AM »
I don't prefer both of those country. When i retire i would love to live in Philippines were life would be happier and have a lost cost of living.

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2020, 12:09:12 PM »

Eh Brexit and the EU failings ensured Brexit.

'Er' ... Corbyn and his 'policy' did .. More people feared his being in charge that Brexit ...;)

Moby........you either refuse to listen or you can’t understand.

I understand their are non posting members of this VERY forum who have made a decision to live and work in IRL ...   and they see plenty of activity that will become apparent - as MAJOR financial institutions gear up for moving from London to IRL, DE, Luxembourg et al



The leave vote cost us more money than it should have, because people who don’t believe in democracy, including many corrupt politicians who have since been handed their ‘jotters’, stalled the process and lay legal and political traps at every turn.


))

My goodness, but leavers will do and say ANYTHING - rather than admit their folly ...

We saw illegal prorogation of Parliament and all sorts of stunts ...  Democracy WAS at work.. Parliament was abused ..

You may STILL be in denial - but the Project Fear headlines will be reality ((

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Re: Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality
« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2020, 12:12:01 PM »
Really funny when folks seek 'excuses' for plants pulling out of the UK

Find us a Japanese firm pulling out of the EU ..

'Thank you'




Here you go mucker.....from your very own Lib rag. Don't cry into your coffee. :coffeeread:

Nissan 'could pull out of EU and expand in UK after hard Brexit'

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/feb/03/nissan-eu-uk-hard-brexit

 

There you go AGAIN... You and Manny do LOVE to suggest my politics is somewhat 'left' when I've only not voted Tory over Brexit ...

Toyota at Derby will be next :(





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